Any veterans around to confirm if this is fake or not?
Common sense tells me this is fake.
If one has an item worth quite literally $10k+ and wants to get the best price for it, it's ludicrous to me that you would post one very iffy picture of it. For example, he says it 'works'. Showing it installed in a toploader with the image on the screen, showing the view from the edge label, showing the contacts, showing the rear casing, all of that would help raise the value in terms of gaining confidence of elite buyers and the community at large. All of this is obvious, so the single crappy image is pretty worrying. It's probable that the eventual winner will get either :
(1)- A clone/fake, possibly very well made.
or
(2)- Some form of nothing.
It would behoove anyone considering this to request additional photos (links to high-resolution originals would be preferred, an accompanying 720p or better short video would be good as well), and to have the cart disassembled and confirmed immediately upon receipt by a qualified member of the community.
This game AFAIK is the only one that actually requires the lockout chip to play correctly. If its working in a top loader its definately fake!
Well, if you are willing to spend $10K for one from a non reputable NWC owner with sketchy pics and has not done much on ebay in ages according to history more power to ya
look how bright the white is on the DIP in the first pic then its filthy/grey in the later ones. It just screams. I could never drop that much $ on an international item either. Too scared. Hope it pans out and is legit, but as most have suggested, probably not.
And ... its gone again ... this morning it had 6 days, 22 hours with 30+ bids up to $4500ish. Now its vanished again. This is the 3rd or 4th time its been pulled down.
The other one *was* a BIN with $50k price tag so people would look at it. Its warning the people to not bid on the first one ... but some weirdos bid on that one too.
Late to the party, but it took me a bit to get to this. I wasn't totally convinced by the evidence presented, so I spent some time going through my archive of almost every NWC cart pic ever and I found very few candidates this cart could have been shopped from. Every other fake I've been able to determine which pic it came from, but this one was a bit tougher. Cart 160 is pretty close due to the camera angles and the exact placement and alignment of certain things visible in a pic of 160 (for example the NT on NES-EVENT-02 on the PCB, but the shadowing in the hole is different. It is extremely unlikely the exact same angle would be used for two different pics by two different people, but that's what we have here, but again, different shadosing in the hole.) Certain artifacting on the white of the label may or may not match up with actiplaquing on 160. Hard to say..top right of label had me thinking it was a match, but the graininess of the auction pic an the photoshopping did away with most identifying marks. Since a very tiny sliver of 160 was cropped out of the bottom of the pic, I took a look at the cart in the auction. The bottom corner of the cart when enlarged has been VERY obviously shopped. Behold and discuss if you'd like. BTW, who the hell is Mark Kaufmann in Miami, as if that's supposed to mean something?
EDIT: Looks like I was just viewing 160 wrong earlier, making me think a sliver of the bottom wasn't in the pic. Lol, duh. However, if I hadn't thought that, I probably wouldn't have noticed the issue with the shopped corner on the fake.
I haven't been scouting ebay much lately, but anyone have an opinion on why every bidder was listed as private? Is that unusual? I know they used to mask the names like r******k, but I hadn't seen them listed specifically as private before.
Haha I have been sent a second chance offer at 4000 with him saying the high bidder didn't pay, should I even bother asking for more pictures or just leave it?
Comments
Originally posted by: Thor
Originally posted by: robby808
Any veterans around to confirm if this is fake or not?
Common sense tells me this is fake.
If one has an item worth quite literally $10k+ and wants to get the best price for it, it's ludicrous to me that you would post one very iffy picture of it. For example, he says it 'works'. Showing it installed in a toploader with the image on the screen, showing the view from the edge label, showing the contacts, showing the rear casing, all of that would help raise the value in terms of gaining confidence of elite buyers and the community at large. All of this is obvious, so the single crappy image is pretty worrying. It's probable that the eventual winner will get either :
(1)- A clone/fake, possibly very well made.
or
(2)- Some form of nothing.
It would behoove anyone considering this to request additional photos (links to high-resolution originals would be preferred, an accompanying 720p or better short video would be good as well), and to have the cart disassembled and confirmed immediately upon receipt by a qualified member of the community.
This game AFAIK is the only one that actually requires the lockout chip to play correctly. If its working in a top loader its definately fake!
Originally posted by: robby808
More pictures were added. Any opinions now?
Looks much much more legit now! It's almost like he read this thread
and bought in 1998? Really? Dunno about any of that, it all sounds sketchy
Originally posted by: Kryptex
I'll send him a message asking if I can pick it up if I win?
nice!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-World-Championships-RARE-NES-/221038958232?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item3376f2d698
EDIT: Looks like I was just viewing 160 wrong earlier, making me think a sliver of the bottom wasn't in the pic. Lol, duh. However, if I hadn't thought that, I probably wouldn't have noticed the issue with the shopped corner on the fake.
-Rob
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221067872017&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&autorefresh=true&item=221067872017&nma=true&rt=nc&si=Jb3px%2FsXBpy4l%2BmCfWOx9yxeveQ%3D&sspagename=STRK:MEWAX:IT&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc#ht_500wt_1282
-Rob
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-World-Championships-1990-NES-Ultra-RARE-No-220-/141218247975?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item20e1437527