Great to see the eZine back in print! Thanks for the work putting it together guys.
Don't forget that this won't write itself, this needs articles from everyone!
Do you have a favourite obscure game? Write it up! Do you have an interesting pirate cart with some interesting game hacks? Write it up! Do you know of a particular artist that worked on a number of NES games where there's a noticeable theme in their work? Write it up! Is there a small company that only developed a few gems for the NES? Write it up! Do you know of a game whose NES port was substantially worse (or better) than another platform? Write it up! Have you played a game to death and know every secret and interesting fact about the game? Write it up! Have you notice mario (or other character) evolving through his games? Write it up! Do you have a collection of joypads where some work better than others? Write it up! Have you had experience with the handsfree controller? Write it up! Do you have a story about a big flea market trip? Write it up!
Yeah, but it was skipped last time by accident. I mean, if you intentionally decided not to put it in because of space, that sucks. Plenty of space, you used one whole page for the Expo ad, which is fine, I want to go myself, but heck, that could have been my page and you could have put the ad at the end. Man, I worked hard on that.
I thought the price guide was going to just be filler but it sounds much better done than someone just guessing at prices. One suggestion would be to list approximately how many sales of each game are being used to generate the numbers that month. It would be especially useful for the rare carts that may not see any for a few months, but still have a price listed.
One suggestion I have for the price guide is to make the game titles consistent with the database that is here on NA. I checked off all my games on it and it was hard to find some. For example, The Adventures of Bayou Billy is listed on the database as "Adventures of Bayou Billy, The". In the price guide, it's just listed as Bayou Billy making it hard to locate. There were several others I noticed different too and they didn't all seem consistent with how others in the list were listed.
I was a bit skeptical of the price guide as well, but if you saw the searches that was used to generate the info, WOW!! I was very impressed after seeing all the hard work Dan had done. I also keep the suggestions coming guys, we are learning as we go on this stuff, and always like to hear feedback.
I thought the price guide was going to just be filler but it sounds much better done than someone just guessing at prices. One suggestion would be to list approximately how many sales of each game are being used to generate the numbers that month. It would be especially useful for the rare carts that may not see any for a few months, but still have a price listed.
from the editorial/introduction:
"In future months, look for...'spot frequency' figures to show a dimension of the scarcity of games relative to eBay"
One suggestion I have for the price guide is to make the game titles consistent with the database that is here on NA. I checked off all my games on it and it was hard to find some. For example, The Adventures of Bayou Billy is listed on the database as "Adventures of Bayou Billy, The". In the price guide, it's just listed as Bayou Billy making it hard to locate. There were several others I noticed different too and they didn't all seem consistent with how others in the list were listed.
We're looking for a way to incorporate this data into the database so I'd be arguing a moot point, but the reasoning behind the names was partially explained in the editorial/introduction.
I'm beginning to think everyone just bit through the editorial tootsie-pop to get to the price guide tootsie-roll-center.
I'm pretty sure that my opinion will count for exactly zero here, but I just wanted to state it anyway.
It's one thing to have a database for the games, variants, etc. Also, it's wonderful to discuss NES related topics, etc.
The forums are great most of the time as well. Community spirit and all, you know.
But a price guide?
Seriously, hard to say, "no offense" on this one, but why?? Why is it even necessary?
The fine line between providing information and support in a hobby that we all care about gets crossed when an "OFFICIAL NES PRICE GUIDE" (which is what this is, sorry) come out.
Dangerous territory for sure guys.
I can't help but wonder why this was necessary?
Personally, I'm against it 100%. To discuss prices here has already been a sore subject from time to time, but to now put something like this in print?
It's a self-fulfilling cycle when you put down prices in print. Now, informed sellers will request the price you've listed, and cite your e-Zine as the source for the info.
Terrible.
Again, my opinion (and I'm welcome to it, as everyone else is), but why even do something like this. Honestly, it cheapens the site, and should make anyone reading question the motive behind it.
Informed sellers can already point to the public eBay auctions, which is where most (all?) of this information will come from. What this will do is knock down any higher than average selling prices. A seller can no longer point to the $50 SMB and ignore the other 20 that sold for $5. Informed buyers will be able to see what is a rip off.
This isn't "what we think the price should be" its what the market has previously set the price at. Anyways there are already price guides available with much less accuracy, such as digitpress.
Informed sellers can already point to the public eBay auctions, which is where most (all?) of this information will come from. What this will do is knock down any higher than average selling prices. A seller can no longer point to the $50 SMB and ignore the other 20 that sold for $5. Informed buyers will be able to see what is a rip off.
This isn't "what we think the price should be" its what the market has previously set the price at. Anyways there are already price guides available with much less accuracy, such as digitpress.
I agree, its really no different than price guides elsewhere, accept its much more up to date. I think we're doing newer collecters a huge favor by preventing scams and overpaying. People should be informed of the going rates.
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yeah, I was looking forward to seeing it as well
great issue nonetheless, great job guys! Glad I could be a part of it by having the opportunity to design the cover art
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also, wish stans comic was there
Sorry Limbo. I have one screw-up every issue.
Limbofunk's article is cut off at the end...
Whoops on that one -- I've uploaded the updated copy.
I need to start printing these out. Great crapper reading material.
Thanks! We always aim high! And a little to the left so it doesn't splash back!
Don't forget that this won't write itself, this needs articles from everyone!
Do you have a favourite obscure game? Write it up! Do you have an interesting pirate cart with some interesting game hacks? Write it up! Do you know of a particular artist that worked on a number of NES games where there's a noticeable theme in their work? Write it up! Is there a small company that only developed a few gems for the NES? Write it up! Do you know of a game whose NES port was substantially worse (or better) than another platform? Write it up! Have you played a game to death and know every secret and interesting fact about the game? Write it up! Have you notice mario (or other character) evolving through his games? Write it up! Do you have a collection of joypads where some work better than others? Write it up! Have you had experience with the handsfree controller? Write it up! Do you have a story about a big flea market trip? Write it up!
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I thought the price guide was going to just be filler but it sounds much better done than someone just guessing at prices. One suggestion would be to list approximately how many sales of each game are being used to generate the numbers that month. It would be especially useful for the rare carts that may not see any for a few months, but still have a price listed.
from the editorial/introduction:
"In future months, look for...'spot frequency' figures to show a dimension of the scarcity of games relative to eBay"
Sorry if I was being verbose.
One suggestion I have for the price guide is to make the game titles consistent with the database that is here on NA. I checked off all my games on it and it was hard to find some. For example, The Adventures of Bayou Billy is listed on the database as "Adventures of Bayou Billy, The". In the price guide, it's just listed as Bayou Billy making it hard to locate. There were several others I noticed different too and they didn't all seem consistent with how others in the list were listed.
We're looking for a way to incorporate this data into the database so I'd be arguing a moot point, but the reasoning behind the names was partially explained in the editorial/introduction.
I'm beginning to think everyone just bit through the editorial tootsie-pop to get to the price guide tootsie-roll-center.
It's one thing to have a database for the games, variants, etc. Also, it's wonderful to discuss NES related topics, etc.
The forums are great most of the time as well. Community spirit and all, you know.
But a price guide?
Seriously, hard to say, "no offense" on this one, but why?? Why is it even necessary?
The fine line between providing information and support in a hobby that we all care about gets crossed when an "OFFICIAL NES PRICE GUIDE" (which is what this is, sorry) come out.
Dangerous territory for sure guys.
I can't help but wonder why this was necessary?
Personally, I'm against it 100%. To discuss prices here has already been a sore subject from time to time, but to now put something like this in print?
It's a self-fulfilling cycle when you put down prices in print. Now, informed sellers will request the price you've listed, and cite your e-Zine as the source for the info.
Terrible.
Again, my opinion (and I'm welcome to it, as everyone else is), but why even do something like this. Honestly, it cheapens the site, and should make anyone reading question the motive behind it.
Peace,
Orri~
This isn't "what we think the price should be" its what the market has previously set the price at. Anyways there are already price guides available with much less accuracy, such as digitpress.
Informed sellers can already point to the public eBay auctions, which is where most (all?) of this information will come from. What this will do is knock down any higher than average selling prices. A seller can no longer point to the $50 SMB and ignore the other 20 that sold for $5. Informed buyers will be able to see what is a rip off.
This isn't "what we think the price should be" its what the market has previously set the price at. Anyways there are already price guides available with much less accuracy, such as digitpress.
I agree, its really no different than price guides elsewhere, accept its much more up to date. I think we're doing newer collecters a huge favor by preventing scams and overpaying. People should be informed of the going rates.