I messaged Super UFO (the seller) and they said they would send me a new one and I didn't have to return the old one. So bunny boy may get a copy to test after all, albeit a slightly used one that only sometimes works before randomly reseting
I messaged Super UFO (the seller) and they said they would send me a new one and I didn't have to return the old one. So bunny boy may get a copy to test after all, albeit a slightly used one that only sometimes works before randomly reseting
Had a chance to try out the AVS today at let's play in Texas and I was pretty impressed. Games played awesome as expected but what really impressed me was that the casing was really close to a front loader.
Had a chance to try out the AVS today at let's play in Texas and I was pretty impressed. Games played awesome as expected but what really impressed me was that the casing was really close to a front loader.
Some people criticize the case or enclosure for whatever reason. The AVS is intended to invoke the original front loader, essentially a better design than the one Nintendo came up with. I challenge them to come up with a better design and keep all the features and not jack up the price of the console.
Some people criticize the case or enclosure for whatever reason. The AVS is intended to invoke the original front loader, essentially a better design than the one Nintendo came up with. I challenge them to come up with a better design and keep all the features and not jack up the price of the console.
Some people criticize the case or enclosure for whatever reason. The AVS is intended to invoke the original front loader, essentially a better design than the one Nintendo came up with. I challenge them to come up with a better design and keep all the features and not jack up the price of the console.
Yeah I think the design does a good job of looking retro (in the good way) while accomodating the necessary features into it's design. One of the things that's a big deal for me personally is the lack of the springloaded 'toaster' mechanism, I hated the issues and grief that thing caused me as a kid.
I dont expect everyone to like it. The other more modern rounded design was close but it didnt have the same nostalgia feel. At the beginning there were a few smaller designs too but we decided having the cart fully enclosed was a main goal so those werent developed more.
Any "better" design will still have some who love it and some who hate it.
Some people criticize the case or enclosure for whatever reason. The AVS is intended to invoke the original front loader, essentially a better design than the one Nintendo came up with. I challenge them to come up with a better design and keep all the features and not jack up the price of the console.
Yeah I think the design does a good job of looking retro (in the good way) while accomodating the necessary features into it's design. One of the things that's a big deal for me personally is the lack of the springloaded 'toaster' mechanism, I hated the issues and grief that thing caused me as a kid.
While the BLW largely fixes the tray loading issue on Toasters, I agree the design of the AVS is an elegant combination of Retro and modern styling. My one complaint, and it is extremely minor, is that the lid cannot fully close when a Famicom cart is inserted.
The alternative would have been the "Retron" approach, which would have made it look like a fugly clone system with two toploading cart slots sticking up out of the unit. The right angle design of the Famicom and NES ports completely prevents dual insertion preventing bus contentions from potentially damaging the cartridge and/or AVS.
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I dont expect everyone to like it. The other more modern rounded design was close but it didnt have the same nostalgia feel. At the beginning there were a few smaller designs too but we decided having the cart fully enclosed was a main goal so those werent developed more.
Any "better" design will still have some who love it and some who hate it.
Brian, it is perfection. Keep exactly the way it is, and have a beer on us!
Is the "late June" ETA still on?
= = = = = = = =
In other news, I wonder who/what the first person to "mod" their AVS will do with it? An LED mod to the clear shell LE would look total badass.
Some people criticize the case or enclosure for whatever reason. The AVS is intended to invoke the original front loader, essentially a better design than the one Nintendo came up with. I challenge them to come up with a better design and keep all the features and not jack up the price of the console.
Yeah I think the design does a good job of looking retro (in the good way) while accomodating the necessary features into it's design. One of the things that's a big deal for me personally is the lack of the springloaded 'toaster' mechanism, I hated the issues and grief that thing caused me as a kid.
While the BLW largely fixes the tray loading issue on Toasters, I agree the design of the AVS is an elegant combination of Retro and modern styling. My one complaint, and it is extremely minor, is that the lid cannot fully close when a Famicom cart is inserted.
Yeah I only found out about that BLW mod after I started following the AVS, though I would still be left with having to RGB mod or something to get decent video quality out of the unit. So the AVS is perfect for me, it solves both of the main issues I had with the NES and I'm going to sit it among my other classic consoles and forget about the original NES lol.
While the BLW largely fixes the tray loading issue on Toasters, I agree the design of the AVS is an elegant combination of Retro and modern styling. My one complaint, and it is extremely minor, is that the lid cannot fully close when a Famicom cart is inserted.
Yeah I only found out about that BLW mod after I started following the AVS, though I would still be left with having to RGB mod or something to get decent video quality out of the unit. So the AVS is perfect for me, it solves both of the main issues I had with the NES and I'm going to sit it among my other classic consoles and forget about the original NES lol.
While the BLW largely fixes the tray loading issue on Toasters, I agree the design of the AVS is an elegant combination of Retro and modern styling. My one complaint, and it is extremely minor, is that the lid cannot fully close when a Famicom cart is inserted.
Yeah I only found out about that BLW mod after I started following the AVS, though I would still be left with having to RGB mod or something to get decent video quality out of the unit. So the AVS is perfect for me, it solves both of the main issues I had with the NES and I'm going to sit it among my other classic consoles and forget about the original NES lol.
No love for Zapper games?
Nope =P
Though reportedly the AVS is technically compatible with the Zapper, it's the type of display that's the problem. My other classic systems are connected to an LCD computer monitor via an XRGB Mini, so I'm already giving up Zapper stuff by not having an CRT.
While the BLW largely fixes the tray loading issue on Toasters, I agree the design of the AVS is an elegant combination of Retro and modern styling. My one complaint, and it is extremely minor, is that the lid cannot fully close when a Famicom cart is inserted.
Yeah I only found out about that BLW mod after I started following the AVS, though I would still be left with having to RGB mod or something to get decent video quality out of the unit. So the AVS is perfect for me, it solves both of the main issues I had with the NES and I'm going to sit it among my other classic consoles and forget about the original NES lol.
No love for Zapper games?
Nope =P
Though reportedly the AVS is technically compatible with the Zapper, it's the type of display that's the problem. My other classic systems are connected to an LCD computer monitor via an XRGB Mini, so I'm already giving up Zapper stuff by not having an CRT.
Brian could have added analog outputs to the FPGA, but then that would defeat the whole purpose of the AVS...
Moral of the story: don't throw out those old NES "Toasters" and CRTs yet!
Well some people still prefer the professional quality CRTs (sony pvm's I think they were?), but I like being able to use a modern screen that takes up less room, and is a lot larger. Even my PC monitor I'm using is a lot bigger than any of the pro grade CRT's that accept RGB input.
So yeah CRT's definitely have a place still, but I'm fine losing the ability to use zapper games. For me they were never much more than a novelty.
Well some people still prefer the professional quality CRTs (sony pvm's I think they were?), but I like being able to use a modern screen that takes up less room, and is a lot larger. Even my PC monitor I'm using is a lot bigger than any of the pro grade CRT's that accept RGB input.
So yeah CRT's definitely have a place still, but I'm fine losing the ability to use zapper games. For me they were never much more than a novelty.
A CRT is still the best way to game on old systems, especially RF only pre-crash era consoles like Atari. My gameroom has an old 90s corner computer desk with a Symphonic CRT TV in the monitor bay. My ASUS 23" 1080p monitor sits on the shelf above the CRT as it was too wide to fit inside the old school monitor bay. I use the CRT for my SD game consoles (Atari through Game Cube) and the ASUS monitor for HD game consoles (PS3, Wii-U, and up). Audio is routed from the AV outputs and the Monoprice HDMI switch into an analog switchbox which feeds the auxillary port on my stereo system. All my consoles are composite video capable except for my Atari which uses the channel 2 RF to the CRT set. And I have a larger Zenith CRT set with gorgeous screen in the garage that is too big to fit in my current entertainment center. I plan on using it for a future retrogame setup when I finally save enough money to move out of my moms house. The monitor will probably sit on top of the Zenith TV, which conveniently has a flat top. The Zenith CRT unfortunately has RF out only, but I have a nice RCA modulator I can use with it. The external modulators tend to give better signal oftentimes than the built in modulators in the original consoles. Also I can use an RCA switchbox to feed the modulator instead of daisy-chaing NES style RF autoswitches, which will degrade the signal significantly if too many are used.
Woo! Does this mean that we're nearing an official release? I saw some folks speculating somewhere in the last week that the units were officially on the boat from China but never saw any official announcement of such. Can't wait!
I assume its closer, but still no idea of a real date. There will be an official announcement of any tiny piece of news, so they definitely haven't shipped (that I know of).
I assume its closer, but still no idea of a real date. There will be an official announcement of any tiny piece of news, so they definitely haven't shipped (that I know of).
What, no tracking numbers? How long does it take for a barge to cross the ocean?
I assume its closer, but still no idea of a real date. There will be an official announcement of any tiny piece of news, so they definitely haven't shipped (that I know of).
What, no tracking numbers? How long does it take for a barge to cross the ocean?
Well, they would have to ship before we could ponder how long the ship will take to cross the ocean. Once everything actually gets aboard a ship and leaves port, most Chinese shipments that I've witnessed take a minimum of 1-2 weeks to get to the US but can sometimes take longer. Here's hoping that the boat leaves port ASAP!
I assume its closer, but still no idea of a real date. There will be an official announcement of any tiny piece of news, so they definitely haven't shipped (that I know of).
What, no tracking numbers? How long does it take for a barge to cross the ocean?
Well, they would have to ship before we could ponder how long the ship will take to cross the ocean. Once everything actually gets aboard a ship and leaves port, most Chinese shipments that I've witnessed take a minimum of 1-2 weeks to get to the US but can sometimes take longer. Here's hoping that the boat leaves port ASAP!
Yes, I've had epackets take anywhere from a few days to well over a month. There are a number of factors involved, namely filling a shipping container to capacity with mail before it ever goes to port, and then customs and port congestion on both sides of the ocean. The cumulative effects of this process probably does take longer than the day or two or three it takes for a relatively slow moving barge to cross the ocean. I'm quite sure that Brian's 9'x9'x9' gaylord cube initial shipment does not fill the whole shipping container so other goods with different destinations will be loaded into the same crate. I also have no idea if he's shipping these out of his home or has partnered with a warehouse or distribution center to distribute the AVS but I'm sure any logistics have been well thought out in advance. Look on the bright side, nobody kickstarted this project or sent in preorder monies so nobody's out of product waiting years past the ETA for goods. Late June was the first ETA ever mentioned. If we get them in late July instead, that is still pretty good. Manufacturing delays are often much much longer...
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I messaged Super UFO (the seller) and they said they would send me a new one and I didn't have to return the old one. So bunny boy may get a copy to test after all, albeit a slightly used one that only sometimes works before randomly reseting
Super UFO is SNES...
No wonder they're such an awesome seller!
Oops, I clearly didn't read that right!
Had a chance to try out the AVS today at let's play in Texas and I was pretty impressed. Games played awesome as expected but what really impressed me was that the casing was really close to a front loader.
It is a thing of beauty!
Some people criticize the case or enclosure for whatever reason. The AVS is intended to invoke the original front loader, essentially a better design than the one Nintendo came up with. I challenge them to come up with a better design and keep all the features and not jack up the price of the console.
Haters gonna hate.
Some people criticize the case or enclosure for whatever reason. The AVS is intended to invoke the original front loader, essentially a better design than the one Nintendo came up with. I challenge them to come up with a better design and keep all the features and not jack up the price of the console.
Yeah I think the design does a good job of looking retro (in the good way) while accomodating the necessary features into it's design. One of the things that's a big deal for me personally is the lack of the springloaded 'toaster' mechanism, I hated the issues and grief that thing caused me as a kid.
Any "better" design will still have some who love it and some who hate it.
Some people criticize the case or enclosure for whatever reason. The AVS is intended to invoke the original front loader, essentially a better design than the one Nintendo came up with. I challenge them to come up with a better design and keep all the features and not jack up the price of the console.
Yeah I think the design does a good job of looking retro (in the good way) while accomodating the necessary features into it's design. One of the things that's a big deal for me personally is the lack of the springloaded 'toaster' mechanism, I hated the issues and grief that thing caused me as a kid.
While the BLW largely fixes the tray loading issue on Toasters, I agree the design of the AVS is an elegant combination of Retro and modern styling. My one complaint, and it is extremely minor, is that the lid cannot fully close when a Famicom cart is inserted.
The alternative would have been the "Retron" approach, which would have made it look like a fugly clone system with two toploading cart slots sticking up out of the unit. The right angle design of the Famicom and NES ports completely prevents dual insertion preventing bus contentions from potentially damaging the cartridge and/or AVS.
I dont expect everyone to like it. The other more modern rounded design was close but it didnt have the same nostalgia feel. At the beginning there were a few smaller designs too but we decided having the cart fully enclosed was a main goal so those werent developed more.
Any "better" design will still have some who love it and some who hate it.
Brian, it is perfection. Keep exactly the way it is, and have a beer on us!
Is the "late June" ETA still on?
= = = = = = = =
In other news, I wonder who/what the first person to "mod" their AVS will do with it? An LED mod to the clear shell LE would look total badass.
some LEDs on the sides also shining on the cart would be neat along with that.
Some people criticize the case or enclosure for whatever reason. The AVS is intended to invoke the original front loader, essentially a better design than the one Nintendo came up with. I challenge them to come up with a better design and keep all the features and not jack up the price of the console.
Yeah I think the design does a good job of looking retro (in the good way) while accomodating the necessary features into it's design. One of the things that's a big deal for me personally is the lack of the springloaded 'toaster' mechanism, I hated the issues and grief that thing caused me as a kid.
While the BLW largely fixes the tray loading issue on Toasters, I agree the design of the AVS is an elegant combination of Retro and modern styling. My one complaint, and it is extremely minor, is that the lid cannot fully close when a Famicom cart is inserted.
Yeah I only found out about that BLW mod after I started following the AVS, though I would still be left with having to RGB mod or something to get decent video quality out of the unit. So the AVS is perfect for me, it solves both of the main issues I had with the NES and I'm going to sit it among my other classic consoles and forget about the original NES lol.
While the BLW largely fixes the tray loading issue on Toasters, I agree the design of the AVS is an elegant combination of Retro and modern styling. My one complaint, and it is extremely minor, is that the lid cannot fully close when a Famicom cart is inserted.
Yeah I only found out about that BLW mod after I started following the AVS, though I would still be left with having to RGB mod or something to get decent video quality out of the unit. So the AVS is perfect for me, it solves both of the main issues I had with the NES and I'm going to sit it among my other classic consoles and forget about the original NES lol.
No love for Zapper games?
I would consider a window on the top cover if i knew i could get a replacement easily.
some LEDs on the sides also shining on the cart would be neat along with that.
Should be doable. I have seen acrylic mods for NES Toaster, but with AVS you can just lift up the lid. It would be redundant on an LE though...
While the BLW largely fixes the tray loading issue on Toasters, I agree the design of the AVS is an elegant combination of Retro and modern styling. My one complaint, and it is extremely minor, is that the lid cannot fully close when a Famicom cart is inserted.
Yeah I only found out about that BLW mod after I started following the AVS, though I would still be left with having to RGB mod or something to get decent video quality out of the unit. So the AVS is perfect for me, it solves both of the main issues I had with the NES and I'm going to sit it among my other classic consoles and forget about the original NES lol.
No love for Zapper games?
Nope =P
Though reportedly the AVS is technically compatible with the Zapper, it's the type of display that's the problem. My other classic systems are connected to an LCD computer monitor via an XRGB Mini, so I'm already giving up Zapper stuff by not having an CRT.
While the BLW largely fixes the tray loading issue on Toasters, I agree the design of the AVS is an elegant combination of Retro and modern styling. My one complaint, and it is extremely minor, is that the lid cannot fully close when a Famicom cart is inserted.
Yeah I only found out about that BLW mod after I started following the AVS, though I would still be left with having to RGB mod or something to get decent video quality out of the unit. So the AVS is perfect for me, it solves both of the main issues I had with the NES and I'm going to sit it among my other classic consoles and forget about the original NES lol.
No love for Zapper games?
Nope =P
Though reportedly the AVS is technically compatible with the Zapper, it's the type of display that's the problem. My other classic systems are connected to an LCD computer monitor via an XRGB Mini, so I'm already giving up Zapper stuff by not having an CRT.
Brian could have added analog outputs to the FPGA, but then that would defeat the whole purpose of the AVS...
Moral of the story: don't throw out those old NES "Toasters" and CRTs yet!
So yeah CRT's definitely have a place still, but I'm fine losing the ability to use zapper games. For me they were never much more than a novelty.
Well some people still prefer the professional quality CRTs (sony pvm's I think they were?), but I like being able to use a modern screen that takes up less room, and is a lot larger. Even my PC monitor I'm using is a lot bigger than any of the pro grade CRT's that accept RGB input.
So yeah CRT's definitely have a place still, but I'm fine losing the ability to use zapper games. For me they were never much more than a novelty.
A CRT is still the best way to game on old systems, especially RF only pre-crash era consoles like Atari. My gameroom has an old 90s corner computer desk with a Symphonic CRT TV in the monitor bay. My ASUS 23" 1080p monitor sits on the shelf above the CRT as it was too wide to fit inside the old school monitor bay. I use the CRT for my SD game consoles (Atari through Game Cube) and the ASUS monitor for HD game consoles (PS3, Wii-U, and up). Audio is routed from the AV outputs and the Monoprice HDMI switch into an analog switchbox which feeds the auxillary port on my stereo system. All my consoles are composite video capable except for my Atari which uses the channel 2 RF to the CRT set. And I have a larger Zenith CRT set with gorgeous screen in the garage that is too big to fit in my current entertainment center. I plan on using it for a future retrogame setup when I finally save enough money to move out of my moms house. The monitor will probably sit on top of the Zenith TV, which conveniently has a flat top. The Zenith CRT unfortunately has RF out only, but I have a nice RCA modulator I can use with it. The external modulators tend to give better signal oftentimes than the built in modulators in the original consoles. Also I can use an RCA switchbox to feed the modulator instead of daisy-chaing NES style RF autoswitches, which will degrade the signal significantly if too many are used.
Wow, that was dark.
I assume its closer, but still no idea of a real date. There will be an official announcement of any tiny piece of news, so they definitely haven't shipped (that I know of).
What, no tracking numbers? How long does it take for a barge to cross the ocean?
I assume its closer, but still no idea of a real date. There will be an official announcement of any tiny piece of news, so they definitely haven't shipped (that I know of).
What, no tracking numbers? How long does it take for a barge to cross the ocean?
Well, they would have to ship before we could ponder how long the ship will take to cross the ocean. Once everything actually gets aboard a ship and leaves port, most Chinese shipments that I've witnessed take a minimum of 1-2 weeks to get to the US but can sometimes take longer. Here's hoping that the boat leaves port ASAP!
I assume its closer, but still no idea of a real date. There will be an official announcement of any tiny piece of news, so they definitely haven't shipped (that I know of).
What, no tracking numbers? How long does it take for a barge to cross the ocean?
Well, they would have to ship before we could ponder how long the ship will take to cross the ocean. Once everything actually gets aboard a ship and leaves port, most Chinese shipments that I've witnessed take a minimum of 1-2 weeks to get to the US but can sometimes take longer. Here's hoping that the boat leaves port ASAP!
Yes, I've had epackets take anywhere from a few days to well over a month. There are a number of factors involved, namely filling a shipping container to capacity with mail before it ever goes to port, and then customs and port congestion on both sides of the ocean. The cumulative effects of this process probably does take longer than the day or two or three it takes for a relatively slow moving barge to cross the ocean. I'm quite sure that Brian's 9'x9'x9' gaylord cube initial shipment does not fill the whole shipping container so other goods with different destinations will be loaded into the same crate. I also have no idea if he's shipping these out of his home or has partnered with a warehouse or distribution center to distribute the AVS but I'm sure any logistics have been well thought out in advance. Look on the bright side, nobody kickstarted this project or sent in preorder monies so nobody's out of product waiting years past the ETA for goods. Late June was the first ETA ever mentioned. If we get them in late July instead, that is still pretty good. Manufacturing delays are often much much longer...