Nintendo M82
Yesterday I finally got my M82...
The postman did just leave the package on the front stairs, luckily I live outside of the town so there are not much traffic around the house.
But That doesn't mean the postman can just leave a package worth several hundred dollars on the front stairs.
Anyway, just wanted to say that I'm a happy owner of a M82 even if I probably paid too much for it.
The postman did just leave the package on the front stairs, luckily I live outside of the town so there are not much traffic around the house.
But That doesn't mean the postman can just leave a package worth several hundred dollars on the front stairs.
Anyway, just wanted to say that I'm a happy owner of a M82 even if I probably paid too much for it.
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Which version did you buy? PAL-A, PAL-B or NTSC?
I think it's PAL-A because I got it from the UK.
I guess the only place to see which region is to look at the carts or is it a sticker somewhere?
I was checked my M82 but couldn't find any sticker or similar.
Because its out of order I couldn't test it
Do You tried to play a PAL B or NTSC game on it?
This is a good question, I was wondering if they had a lock out system because they are not made for private customers.
I was checked my M82 but couldn't find any sticker or similar.
Because its out of order I couldn't test it
Do You tried to play a PAL B or NTSC game on it?
I was thinking the same thing as I wrote the question about the region; is there any lock out chip at all on this beauty?
I've got a "PAL-A" version, but like yours mine is also out of order at the moment.
But I'll hopefully get a "PAL-B" version next week which I think is working ok, so I could try to test it then if someone else doesn't do it before me.
And for Xevious or Nikki - Just out of curiosity, what's "out of order" on either of your M82's? Is there any specific part not working, or is it just not powering up at all?
This is a good question, I was wondering if they had a lock out system because they are not made for private customers.
I was checked my M82 but couldn't find any sticker or similar.
Because its out of order I couldn't test it
Do You tried to play a PAL B or NTSC game on it?
I can try with some PAL-B and NTSC games later today.
I'm sorry to hear that your M82 don't work.
Hopefully it's nothing serious, like the power supply or something.
I think this piece of Nintendo history is worth fixing.
So I guess there is a lock out system on these demo units.
And for Xevious or Nikki - Just out of curiosity, what's "out of order" on either of your M82's? Is there any specific part not working, or is it just not powering up at all?
I'm not sure. But it will be fixed of the guy I bought it of.
I can confirm that my M82 doesn't work with PAL-B and NTSC games.
So I guess there is a lock out system on these demo units.
Cool! Thanks for checking it out
From what I remember from looking inside my M82 a while ago...
On the M82 main board, the lockout chip is socketed, as are the CPU and PPU chips. If you open it up you'll be able to see which chip you have; 3197A is the PAL A one.
It should be quite simple to either change the lockout chip, or lift up/cut pin 4 of the chip so other region games can be played.
Since the CPU and PPU chips are socketed, if you're feeling adventurous you can convert the unit to NTSC if you want. Replace CPU and PPU with chips removed from a spare US model NES. I think the clock crystal is soldered in, so you'd need to desolder that and replace with one from a US NES. That will give you NTSC video output. If you wanted to go all the way you could replace the power/modulator section with one taken from a US NES too (then you could use the RF output with a US TV).
-- M
or lift up/cut pin 4 of the chip so other region games can be played.
Won't work, the lockout chip is used to detect which cart slots are filled. This is also why third party carts with lockout defeaters will not work.
How do you feel about the purchase 10 months later?
I feel fine
I think it was worth the money as they don't come up for sale that often.
or lift up/cut pin 4 of the chip so other region games can be played.
Won't work, the lockout chip is used to detect which cart slots are filled. This is also why third party carts with lockout defeaters will not work.
I guess you got that info from your "service center binder"?
Could you please make a copy of all the M82 info for me?
I'll pay for it of course.
Hi,
From what I remember from looking inside my M82 a while ago...
On the M82 main board, the lockout chip is socketed, as are the CPU and PPU chips. If you open it up you'll be able to see which chip you have; 3197A is the PAL A one.
It should be quite simple to either change the lockout chip, or lift up/cut pin 4 of the chip so other region games can be played.
Since the CPU and PPU chips are socketed, if you're feeling adventurous you can convert the unit to NTSC if you want. Replace CPU and PPU with chips removed from a spare US model NES. I think the clock crystal is soldered in, so you'd need to desolder that and replace with one from a US NES. That will give you NTSC video output. If you wanted to go all the way you could replace the power/modulator section with one taken from a US NES too (then you could use the RF output with a US TV).
-- M
On my M82 Mainboard the lockout chip is not socketed It's a 3195A (See Attached file) I'm sure it's possible there are M82 with socketed Lockout chips. On this page http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/nes/history/demo_unit.html there is also someone talking about socketed lockout chips.
or lift up/cut pin 4 of the chip so other region games can be played.
Won't
work, the lockout chip is used to detect which cart slots are filled.
This is also why third party carts with lockout defeaters will not
work.
As bunnyboy is talking about the lockoutchip that is used for detecting carts; I had the same conversation and opinion as BunnyBoy in this topic: http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?StartRow=21&catid=6&threadid=11858
You can make your M82 region free just like a normal nes system, same chip.
Just wanted you to know :-)
Are you sure about that? I
think it's not worth messing around with your M82 console; when you're
lucky enough to get one; please keep it in original condition.
I tell this because the lockout chip of the M82 is used / abused to change the cartridges:
"The
M82 has swappable games, so there may be an empty slot. If that slot
was picked the screen would just be gray for the length of the timer,
if it weren't for the fact that the M82 detects if a cart is in a slot
and will skip if it is empty. This is done using the lockout chip. The
M82 resets its lockout chip, then watches to see if the lockout in the
cart correctly
unlocks the system. If the system isn't unlocked then the M82 assumes that slot is empty
and
moves on. This creates problems for carts that do not have the standard
lockout chip. Any third party carts that use the stun technique will
disable the system lockout chip, but then there is no "unlocked"
response so the M82 assumes the slot is empty and checks the next one.
When it does that the system lockout is still stunned so it moves on
again. The M82 will loop through all the slots, never stopping because
it can never become unstunned. Carts that use the Ciclone lockout chip
do not have the "unlocked" signal because the normal NES system does
not use it. Again the M82 sees that as an empty slot and will not
select the game.
The usage of the lockout chip for game selection also makes disabling the timer harder."
And I got this answer:
Yes RDK sure about that, same lockout chip in the PAL M82 as a standard NES.
Does the same trick, no problems.
Now I'm 100% for sure that the "lockout-trick" is not working on a M82 console. BunnyBoy knows everything about it.