I am also a public school teacher. No Child Left Behind is one of the worst things that has happened to eduaction in years. The federal government should stay out of education. Education should be the sole priority of the states. You are correct, NCLB is good that it makes sure that teachers are properly certified to teach the youth of our nation, but it is has absurd mandates that need to be met. By 2014, there needs to be a 100% graduation rate!!! I teach high school, and Vito hit the nail on the head. Kids learn in many different ways, and no way on God's good green earth will there ever be 100% graduation rate. This idea sucks!!! Now teachers will have to teach to tests, instead of teaching the students what really matters about their specific suject areas. When schools do not meet the federal guidelines, teachers will lose jobs, administrations will be fired, and our flimsy US educational system will be taken over by beauracrats! NCLB has some reddeming qualities, but needs to be majorly overhauled!!! I am sorry, you can not chalk up NCLB as something the Bush Administration did as being positive! President Bush will go down as one of the WORST US Presidents ever!!! He will be right there with James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Warren G. Harding, and Franklin Pierce. We have had eight years of torn relations with other nations in the world, lost alliances, a soaring national deficit, a war that made no sense, NCLB, a housing economy in the dumps, eight years of a poor financial market (stocks), high unemployment rate, gasoline prices and a continued severe dependence on foreign oil, low US dollar (actaully it is making a rebound now), the debacle at New Orleans three years ago, etc... Wait, didn't the vice president shoot someone in the face too?! All in all, I vote for Mario's Left Nut for President!!!
well I couldn't agree more. Errr... not about tusk happening on your face but the other stuff.
That bush could let it happen twice is freaking outrageous. And ninfan to imply that its basically the tough shit of the new orleans populace for being stupid enough to live on sinking land is ridiculous. You say that mln is disrespecting bush; but to basically say that an entire city is stupid for where it lives is far more disrespectful. Natural disasters happen everywhere. When the big one hits in LA or the west coast where I live are you going to call all of us idiots too? What about when something like that happens in your town?
By 2014, there needs to be a 100% graduation rate!!! I
are you kidding me?
in effect what that's saying is that you'll be forced to pass complete idiots who have no knowledge of the material. And with no consequences to failure some won't even try. Good lord that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. a 100% pass rate effectively turns high school into kindergarten, if it isn't already.
Sad, isn't it!!! If you do a little research on google, you can find how each year the graduation rate goes up and up and up! Each year becoming more and more unrealistic. This puts increased burdens on teachers to meet the absurd requirements put forth by NCLB!!! Ah, the joys of teaching!
I have several friends here in TN that are teachers and they all HATE NCLB as well. They say it is the fall of public schools. It is good in principal but terrible in reality. They predict that over half the teacher in Knox County will be fired and have to reapply to get their jobs back because of this program. Plus on top of that, that 100% doesn't take into account crazy stuff. Like pregnancy, suicide and a few others, so if a student has to leave, they school fails the program.
no way on God's good green earth will there ever be 100% graduation rate.
At least there is a bar to reach for now. Just like in business, there is now a goal to be met that can be meaured. In my district, our numbers are up big because the pressure is on. 100% is a little unrealistic, but at least we can try. If we get up to 85%-90%, will people say NCLB is horrible?
Brontly,
I never said the people were stupid, and I never said to let them suffer there. I meant that when you choose to live on land that is below sea level and sinking, what can you expect. Natural disatser's are bound to happen. I moved away from NYC because I wanted to get away from possible terror targets after 9/11. That was my choice to move. You live in LA even though it is on a fault line and an earthquake is possible. THings can happen anywhere. But if I worked for an insurance company and had to insure Louisiana, you better believe rates would be sky high. The Govt will rebuild New Orleans again, what else can they do. It is still a risky area to live.
I also wanted to add that I am very suprised and disappointed at how jumpy and nasty some people get around here when someone has an opinion. Quick to call names and swear up a storm. I know I was the first to be combative with MLN's opinion of the President, but I am tired of people always blaming Pres. Bush. The President is NOT a dictator. He has made mistakes, but has also had many successes. AND PLEASE DON"T ASK ME TO NAME ONE! I really don't want to discuss this anymore.
I hope we can get back to collecting now and throw some burgers on the grill. Enjoy your Labor Day everyone.
I know I was the first to be combative with MLN's opinion of the President, but I am tired of people always blaming Pres. Bush. The President is NOT a dictator. He has made mistakes, but has also had many successes. AND PLEASE DON"T ASK ME TO NAME ONE! I really don't want to discuss this anymore.
I hope we can get back to collecting now and throw some burgers on the grill. Enjoy your Labor Day everyone.
Gah.
Name one. Not asking please. Just name one thing.
The president is not a dictator. But let's recall Guantanamo Bay, the Abu Gharib human rights violations, the Patriot Act, the Terror Alert system, the leaking of CIA agent's name for political retaliation, the evidence for WMDs in Bahgdad, the false dependency on foreign oil, the mercenaries who operated outside U.S. laws, etc. The president is not a dictator - just someone who has manipulated Congress, fear mongered his way into implementing immoral policies and consistently ignored the system of checks and balances with divisive rhetoric and egotism.
Yep. But yeah its Labor Day and right now New Orleans is getting hit by a hurricane but that doesn't affect me so I'll eat my burger and pretend that President Bush is a good man who found God.
no way on God's good green earth will there ever be 100% graduation rate.
Brontly,
I never said the people were stupid, .... I meant that when you choose to live on land that is below sea level and sinking, what can you expect.
Its the same as calling them stupid... that was my whole point. Not everyone can even afford to move, anyways. If I'm a downtown orleans crack addict, I don't know where my next three bucks is coming from. Realistically, I can't move. Now I might be not a terribly useful member of society but I still shouldn't have to freakin' drown because the levees weren't built
(1) Rebuilding the levees takes numerous years. We don't have some kind of Gulag like Russia, with infinite free labor. It's not the Federal Government's fault, but far too many people appear to be uneducated about the logistics of those kinds of building projects.
(2) Way too many teachers are apathetic or just plain stupid. For you couple of teachers on this board, I'm sure you know quite a few of your coworkers who are worthless and only became teachers because they couldn't think of anything else to do while they were in college. I can understand the allure of trying to set a national standard, and the only reason that it's even necessary is because the national teacher union is such a huge destructive machine. I'm going to be blunt, so excuse the offense: you ARE NOT a professional if you need to be in a union. REAL professionals can deal with salary negotiation and working conditions themselves. The teacher union makes all of you guys look like dickless wimps for having such an organization. If you wanted to make real progress in education reform, that disgusting organization needs to go. I know, in my home state at least, that the union has funded quite a few Governor's who were opposed to state education reforms that would require teachers being certified and tested regularly. That is dispicable and perpetuates all of the problems I have with public education. Without some kind of standard you guys have very little risk for doing your job poorly, and that's just not the way it should be.
(3) Back on New Orleans and hurricanes...you can't just whip up a new city in a couple of years once everything down there becomes uninsurable. If private insurance won't pay for it, it DEFINITELY should NOT be the taxpayers' responsibility to fund it through the government. I don't want to waste my money so that people can live in a place that is below sea level and regularly in the path of extremely destructive forces of nature. People feel too entitled to maintain their status quo. The situation has changed, and in turn change is demanded from the people of New Orleans. Too many people expect the government to bail them out from everything that happens, and that's not what the government is here for. Then again, that state is a hot bed of big government liberals who favor wealth redistribution...
If people want to help those in need (and I do), use a charitable organization. The government was not created for that purpose, and should not be expanded to that purpose. It is inherently inefficient in distributing those kinds of funds (under ANY party) and should leave that work to the Red Cross and church organizations. If businesses don't see the need to rebuild a city that is readily destroyed again...then it's clearly a bad idea that is bound to be proven wrong again.
Bronty - they had mandatory evacuations: that means the government paid to put people on buses who couldn't afford it, since I'm pretty sure the state of LA wasn't going to repeat the debacle that occured with the filthy stadium.
Oh, and IMO Bush has become a scapegoat for all the crises, debacles, and the unseemly stiuations we as US citizens find ourselves in. Heres what's funny about that, we've had a Democratic congress for 2 years now, a congress that's promised to end the war in Iraq... Guess what, all they have to do is vote to stop funding the war and is over? So why don't they? You can't blame Bush for that. Also, it's a fallacy to assume that we would have been better off had Gore won the election 8 years ago. Who knows how Gore would have handled Sep 11th. As far as Bush raising national debt, well pardon my being frank but no shit... We've been at war since 2004 and wars cost money.... wether you agree with the war or not. I honestly don't have any experience in foriegn policy or international relations (like some of you must?) so I won't comment on whether or not we should have went to war 5 years ago. Here's a question though, what should Bush have done instead of going to war against Iraq? And for New Orleans, It shouldnt be the Feds job to secure the levis, it should be up to the City. If they wan't to live in a 'disaster waiting to happen' then they should be responsible for assuring that they are prepared for that disaster. I don't believe my tax dollars should go to those who willingly live in the single MOST Dangerous city in the US.
C'mon pedro! Is it freedom of speech for me to curse out my mom? You just don't say some things.
Plus, it is the way people say it.... "Bush this, Bush that." They leave out "President" and that is rude and discourteous.
he doesn't deserve to be called president after all the moronic things he's done, hands down the worst president ever, and if McCain wins the next election, i will have lost all respect for the majority of voters in the U.S.A (not that the people who voted him in 2 times deserve much respect in the first place, and not to say i don't like most of you guys who are from the states, cuz i do). Kanye said it best "George Bush doesn't care about black people"
Politics will only cause tension amongst friends here on NA. Not that they shouldn't be discussed here, just not a good idea in my opinion to "make an enemy" on accident discussing such touchy subjects. I am in enough heat right now, I think I will stay out of this one.
True. You are a good man Mike.
And at the advice of ninfan I will now say "President Bush" when speaking of the worst president in U.S. history. He has trampled the Constitution and a majority of our rights. President Bush doesn't care about New Orleans or the children that are left behind by his policies. President Bush spent more time at his ranch than he did in the White House. President Bush is incompetent, hypocritical and dumb.
wow vito, i never realized how much i actually love you until i read your posts in this topic, i couldn't agree more with all your posts. Bush should spent the rest of his life in prison for all the horrible things he's done, all the lives he's ruined and they way he fucked your whole country in a way that it might never recover from.
skankinmack... I personally am voting for McCain and I hope and pray he wins!
why should president Bush care about black people? Shouldn't he only care about people?
Why are black people, black when it's convenient, but when it is not convenient, we, the white people, are racist?
i don't see why you are 'praying' he wins, what do you really think he's going to do differently than bush, really? This guy is off in his own world, i mean when you don't know how many houses you own, i don't think your very in touch with or can relate to the normal person in your country. And what about him saying he'll stay in Iraq for another 100 years, please tell me how that is a good thing? and i don't get where your going with the black when its convenient thing, and maybe we are the racists because we (we'll not me personally, or even my ancestors thank fuck) used to buy and sell them like the nes games we do on this forum
Barack doesn't know how many houses he owns either.. Google it, I'm sure you'll see some articles about how Obama owns more houses then he knows about...
How is all of the change Obama talks about good? When he doesn't talk specifics?
Barack doesn't know how many houses he owns either.. Google it, I'm sure you'll see some articles about how Obama owns more houses then he knows about...
How is all of the change Obama talks about good? When he doesn't talk specifics?
i don't recall saying anything about supporting Obama, can you show me where i said that? and i see you avoided responding to me when i asked what you meant about the whole black when its convenient thing, then you conveniently edited it, and what about McCain wanting to stay in Iraq, do you seriously support that?
what about McCain wanting to stay in Iraq, do you seriously support that?
Have you read what he said after that?
"As long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed, it's fine with me and I hope it would be fine with you if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where al Qaeda is training, recruiting, equipping and motivating people every single day."
It's the same way we still have a presence from past wars
Oh, and IMO Bush has become a scapegoat for all the crises, debacles, and the unseemly stiuations we as US citizens find ourselves in. Heres what's funny about that, we've had a Democratic congress for 2 years now, a congress that's promised to end the war in Iraq... Guess what, all they have to do is vote to stop funding the war and is over? So why don't they? You can't blame Bush for that. Also, it's a fallacy to assume that we would have been better off had Gore won the election 8 years ago. Who knows how Gore would have handled Sep 11th. As far as Bush raising national debt, well pardon my being frank but no shit... We've been at war since 2004 and wars cost money.... wether you agree with the war or not. I honestly don't have any experience in foriegn policy or international relations (like some of you must?) so I won't comment on whether or not we should have went to war 5 years ago. Here's a question though, what should Bush have done instead of going to war against Iraq? And for New Orleans, It shouldnt be the Feds job to secure the levis, it should be up to the City. If they wan't to live in a 'disaster waiting to happen' then they should be responsible for assuring that they are prepared for that disaster. I don't believe my tax dollars should go to those who willingly live in the single MOST Dangerous city in the US.
Barack doesn't know how many houses he owns either.. Google it, I'm sure you'll see some articles about how Obama owns more houses then he knows about...
How is all of the change Obama talks about good? When he doesn't talk specifics?
i don't recall saying anything about supporting Obama, can you show me where i said that? and i see you avoided responding to me when i asked what you meant about the whole black when its convenient thing, then you conveniently edited it, and what about McCain wanting to stay in Iraq, do you seriously support that?
I support staying until the Iraqis tell us to get out........
Barack doesn't know how many houses he owns either.. Google it, I'm sure you'll see some articles about how Obama owns more houses then he knows about...
How is all of the change Obama talks about good? When he doesn't talk specifics?
i don't recall saying anything about supporting Obama, can you show me where i said that? and i see you avoided responding to me when i asked what you meant about the whole black when its convenient thing, then you conveniently edited it, and what about McCain wanting to stay in Iraq, do you seriously support that?
I support staying until the Iraqis tell us to get out........
If you don't support McCain, who else but Obama??
and that is going to accomplish what? what right do you have to be there anywhere? once again you didn't explain your comment that i called into question earlier.
^^^ Ron Paul? seriously, given the options McCain is the best choice. Obama has never taken a principled stand on anything in his entire life. Any promises he makes is a joke, and electing him would be a sure fire way to have more money leave my pocket after he raises taxes across the board.
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the girl I was talking to, swore up and down that there would be a war if gore made it into office....
she was cute, so i'll give her the benefit of the doubt for being so naive
Shouldn't this be happening in the Joel thread???
Shouldn't you be happening on my face?
Mmmmm.
Hey NINFAN,
I am also a public school teacher. No Child Left Behind is one of the worst things that has happened to eduaction in years. The federal government should stay out of education. Education should be the sole priority of the states. You are correct, NCLB is good that it makes sure that teachers are properly certified to teach the youth of our nation, but it is has absurd mandates that need to be met. By 2014, there needs to be a 100% graduation rate!!! I teach high school, and Vito hit the nail on the head. Kids learn in many different ways, and no way on God's good green earth will there ever be 100% graduation rate. This idea sucks!!! Now teachers will have to teach to tests, instead of teaching the students what really matters about their specific suject areas. When schools do not meet the federal guidelines, teachers will lose jobs, administrations will be fired, and our flimsy US educational system will be taken over by beauracrats! NCLB has some reddeming qualities, but needs to be majorly overhauled!!! I am sorry, you can not chalk up NCLB as something the Bush Administration did as being positive! President Bush will go down as one of the WORST US Presidents ever!!! He will be right there with James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Warren G. Harding, and Franklin Pierce. We have had eight years of torn relations with other nations in the world, lost alliances, a soaring national deficit, a war that made no sense, NCLB, a housing economy in the dumps, eight years of a poor financial market (stocks), high unemployment rate, gasoline prices and a continued severe dependence on foreign oil, low US dollar (actaully it is making a rebound now), the debacle at New Orleans three years ago, etc... Wait, didn't the vice president shoot someone in the face too?! All in all, I vote for Mario's Left Nut for President!!!
Dan (wolfsaq)
That bush could let it happen twice is freaking outrageous. And ninfan to imply that its basically the tough shit of the new orleans populace for being stupid enough to live on sinking land is ridiculous. You say that mln is disrespecting bush; but to basically say that an entire city is stupid for where it lives is far more disrespectful. Natural disasters happen everywhere. When the big one hits in LA or the west coast where I live are you going to call all of us idiots too? What about when something like that happens in your town?
Hey NINFAN,
By 2014, there needs to be a 100% graduation rate!!! I
are you kidding me?
in effect what that's saying is that you'll be forced to pass complete idiots who have no knowledge of the material. And with no consequences to failure some won't even try. Good lord that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. a 100% pass rate effectively turns high school into kindergarten, if it isn't already.
Yes Bronty,
Sad, isn't it!!! If you do a little research on google, you can find how each year the graduation rate goes up and up and up! Each year becoming more and more unrealistic. This puts increased burdens on teachers to meet the absurd requirements put forth by NCLB!!! Ah, the joys of teaching!
Dan (wolfsaq)
~~NGD
Shouldn't this be happening in the Joel thread???
Shouldn't you be happening on my face?
Mmmmm.
Probably......What time is good for you?
Dan (wolfsac) - thanks for the nod! I don't want the job though.
MLN'er
Hey NINFAN,
no way on God's good green earth will there ever be 100% graduation rate.
At least there is a bar to reach for now. Just like in business, there is now a goal to be met that can be meaured. In my district, our numbers are up big because the pressure is on. 100% is a little unrealistic, but at least we can try. If we get up to 85%-90%, will people say NCLB is horrible?
Brontly,
I never said the people were stupid, and I never said to let them suffer there. I meant that when you choose to live on land that is below sea level and sinking, what can you expect. Natural disatser's are bound to happen. I moved away from NYC because I wanted to get away from possible terror targets after 9/11. That was my choice to move. You live in LA even though it is on a fault line and an earthquake is possible. THings can happen anywhere. But if I worked for an insurance company and had to insure Louisiana, you better believe rates would be sky high. The Govt will rebuild New Orleans again, what else can they do. It is still a risky area to live.
I also wanted to add that I am very suprised and disappointed at how jumpy and nasty some people get around here when someone has an opinion. Quick to call names and swear up a storm. I know I was the first to be combative with MLN's opinion of the President, but I am tired of people always blaming Pres. Bush. The President is NOT a dictator. He has made mistakes, but has also had many successes. AND PLEASE DON"T ASK ME TO NAME ONE! I really don't want to discuss this anymore.
I hope we can get back to collecting now and throw some burgers on the grill. Enjoy your Labor Day everyone.
I hope we can get back to collecting now and throw some burgers on the grill. Enjoy your Labor Day everyone.
Agreed x10. Everyone has been a freaking Negative Nancy lately.
Everyone has different opinions, right or wrong, there is no need for the harshness as of late.
IE: I think wiz's mom is a whore, Vito just thinks she is easy...let compromise and agree she just goes balls deep like a pro!
~~NGD
I know I was the first to be combative with MLN's opinion of the President, but I am tired of people always blaming Pres. Bush. The President is NOT a dictator. He has made mistakes, but has also had many successes. AND PLEASE DON"T ASK ME TO NAME ONE! I really don't want to discuss this anymore.
I hope we can get back to collecting now and throw some burgers on the grill. Enjoy your Labor Day everyone.
Gah.
Name one. Not asking please. Just name one thing.
The president is not a dictator. But let's recall Guantanamo Bay, the Abu Gharib human rights violations, the Patriot Act, the Terror Alert system, the leaking of CIA agent's name for political retaliation, the evidence for WMDs in Bahgdad, the false dependency on foreign oil, the mercenaries who operated outside U.S. laws, etc. The president is not a dictator - just someone who has manipulated Congress, fear mongered his way into implementing immoral policies and consistently ignored the system of checks and balances with divisive rhetoric and egotism.
Yep. But yeah its Labor Day and right now New Orleans is getting hit by a hurricane but that doesn't affect me so I'll eat my burger and pretend that President Bush is a good man who found God.
Bullshit.
MLN'er
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."- Dubya
Thank you.
Enjoy your Labor Day in the Land of the Free. End transmission.
Hey NINFAN,
no way on God's good green earth will there ever be 100% graduation rate.
Brontly,
I never said the people were stupid, .... I meant that when you choose to live on land that is below sea level and sinking, what can you expect.
Its the same as calling them stupid... that was my whole point. Not everyone can even afford to move, anyways. If I'm a downtown orleans crack addict, I don't know where my next three bucks is coming from. Realistically, I can't move. Now I might be not a terribly useful member of society but I still shouldn't have to freakin' drown because the levees weren't built
(2) Way too many teachers are apathetic or just plain stupid. For you couple of teachers on this board, I'm sure you know quite a few of your coworkers who are worthless and only became teachers because they couldn't think of anything else to do while they were in college. I can understand the allure of trying to set a national standard, and the only reason that it's even necessary is because the national teacher union is such a huge destructive machine. I'm going to be blunt, so excuse the offense: you ARE NOT a professional if you need to be in a union. REAL professionals can deal with salary negotiation and working conditions themselves. The teacher union makes all of you guys look like dickless wimps for having such an organization. If you wanted to make real progress in education reform, that disgusting organization needs to go. I know, in my home state at least, that the union has funded quite a few Governor's who were opposed to state education reforms that would require teachers being certified and tested regularly. That is dispicable and perpetuates all of the problems I have with public education. Without some kind of standard you guys have very little risk for doing your job poorly, and that's just not the way it should be.
(3) Back on New Orleans and hurricanes...you can't just whip up a new city in a couple of years once everything down there becomes uninsurable. If private insurance won't pay for it, it DEFINITELY should NOT be the taxpayers' responsibility to fund it through the government. I don't want to waste my money so that people can live in a place that is below sea level and regularly in the path of extremely destructive forces of nature. People feel too entitled to maintain their status quo. The situation has changed, and in turn change is demanded from the people of New Orleans. Too many people expect the government to bail them out from everything that happens, and that's not what the government is here for. Then again, that state is a hot bed of big government liberals who favor wealth redistribution...
If people want to help those in need (and I do), use a charitable organization. The government was not created for that purpose, and should not be expanded to that purpose. It is inherently inefficient in distributing those kinds of funds (under ANY party) and should leave that work to the Red Cross and church organizations. If businesses don't see the need to rebuild a city that is readily destroyed again...then it's clearly a bad idea that is bound to be proven wrong again.
Bronty - they had mandatory evacuations: that means the government paid to put people on buses who couldn't afford it, since I'm pretty sure the state of LA wasn't going to repeat the debacle that occured with the filthy stadium.
Shouldn't this be happening in the Joel thread???
Shouldn't you be happening on my face?
Mmmmm.
Probably......What time is good for you?
Lol, thanks for the good laugh!
Oh, and IMO Bush has become a scapegoat for all the crises, debacles, and the unseemly stiuations we as US citizens find ourselves in. Heres what's funny about that, we've had a Democratic congress for 2 years now, a congress that's promised to end the war in Iraq... Guess what, all they have to do is vote to stop funding the war and is over? So why don't they? You can't blame Bush for that. Also, it's a fallacy to assume that we would have been better off had Gore won the election 8 years ago. Who knows how Gore would have handled Sep 11th. As far as Bush raising national debt, well pardon my being frank but no shit... We've been at war since 2004 and wars cost money.... wether you agree with the war or not. I honestly don't have any experience in foriegn policy or international relations (like some of you must?) so I won't comment on whether or not we should have went to war 5 years ago. Here's a question though, what should Bush have done instead of going to war against Iraq? And for New Orleans, It shouldnt be the Feds job to secure the levis, it should be up to the City. If they wan't to live in a 'disaster waiting to happen' then they should be responsible for assuring that they are prepared for that disaster. I don't believe my tax dollars should go to those who willingly live in the single MOST Dangerous city in the US.
It's called Freedom of Speech
C'mon pedro! Is it freedom of speech for me to curse out my mom? You just don't say some things.
Plus, it is the way people say it.... "Bush this, Bush that." They leave out "President" and that is rude and discourteous.
he doesn't deserve to be called president after all the moronic things he's done, hands down the worst president ever, and if McCain wins the next election, i will have lost all respect for the majority of voters in the U.S.A (not that the people who voted him in 2 times deserve much respect in the first place, and not to say i don't like most of you guys who are from the states, cuz i do). Kanye said it best "George Bush doesn't care about black people"
Politics will only cause tension amongst friends here on NA. Not that they shouldn't be discussed here, just not a good idea in my opinion to "make an enemy" on accident discussing such touchy subjects. I am in enough heat right now, I think I will stay out of this one.
True. You are a good man Mike.
And at the advice of ninfan I will now say "President Bush" when speaking of the worst president in U.S. history. He has trampled the Constitution and a majority of our rights. President Bush doesn't care about New Orleans or the children that are left behind by his policies. President Bush spent more time at his ranch than he did in the White House. President Bush is incompetent, hypocritical and dumb.
wow vito, i never realized how much i actually love you until i read your posts in this topic, i couldn't agree more with all your posts. Bush should spent the rest of his life in prison for all the horrible things he's done, all the lives he's ruined and they way he fucked your whole country in a way that it might never recover from.
skankinmack... I personally am voting for McCain and I hope and pray he wins!
why should president Bush care about black people? Shouldn't he only care about people regardless of their skin color???
And who believes anything Kanye says???? He's a rapper, not much else...
skankinmack... I personally am voting for McCain and I hope and pray he wins!
why should president Bush care about black people? Shouldn't he only care about people?
Why are black people, black when it's convenient, but when it is not convenient, we, the white people, are racist?
i don't see why you are 'praying' he wins, what do you really think he's going to do differently than bush, really? This guy is off in his own world, i mean when you don't know how many houses you own, i don't think your very in touch with or can relate to the normal person in your country. And what about him saying he'll stay in Iraq for another 100 years, please tell me how that is a good thing?
and i don't get where your going with the black when its convenient thing, and maybe we are the racists because we (we'll not me personally, or even my ancestors thank fuck) used to buy and sell them like the nes games we do on this forum
How is all of the change Obama talks about good? When he doesn't talk specifics?
Barack doesn't know how many houses he owns either.. Google it, I'm sure you'll see some articles about how Obama owns more houses then he knows about...
How is all of the change Obama talks about good? When he doesn't talk specifics?
i don't recall saying anything about supporting Obama, can you show me where i said that? and i see you avoided responding to me when i asked what you meant about the whole black when its convenient thing, then you conveniently edited it, and what about McCain wanting to stay in Iraq, do you seriously support that?
what about McCain wanting to stay in Iraq, do you seriously support that?
Have you read what he said after that?
"As long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or
killed, it's fine with me and I hope it would be fine with you if we
maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where al Qaeda
is training, recruiting, equipping and motivating people every single
day."
It's the same way we still have a presence from past wars
Lol, thanks for the good laugh!
Oh, and IMO Bush has become a scapegoat for all the crises, debacles, and the unseemly stiuations we as US citizens find ourselves in. Heres what's funny about that, we've had a Democratic congress for 2 years now, a congress that's promised to end the war in Iraq... Guess what, all they have to do is vote to stop funding the war and is over? So why don't they? You can't blame Bush for that. Also, it's a fallacy to assume that we would have been better off had Gore won the election 8 years ago. Who knows how Gore would have handled Sep 11th. As far as Bush raising national debt, well pardon my being frank but no shit... We've been at war since 2004 and wars cost money.... wether you agree with the war or not. I honestly don't have any experience in foriegn policy or international relations (like some of you must?) so I won't comment on whether or not we should have went to war 5 years ago. Here's a question though, what should Bush have done instead of going to war against Iraq? And for New Orleans, It shouldnt be the Feds job to secure the levis, it should be up to the City. If they wan't to live in a 'disaster waiting to happen' then they should be responsible for assuring that they are prepared for that disaster. I don't believe my tax dollars should go to those who willingly live in the single MOST Dangerous city in the US.
Thanks!
Barack doesn't know how many houses he owns either.. Google it, I'm sure you'll see some articles about how Obama owns more houses then he knows about...
How is all of the change Obama talks about good? When he doesn't talk specifics?
i don't recall saying anything about supporting Obama, can you show me where i said that? and i see you avoided responding to me when i asked what you meant about the whole black when its convenient thing, then you conveniently edited it, and what about McCain wanting to stay in Iraq, do you seriously support that?
I support staying until the Iraqis tell us to get out........
If you don't support McCain, who else but Obama??
Barack doesn't know how many houses he owns either.. Google it, I'm sure you'll see some articles about how Obama owns more houses then he knows about...
How is all of the change Obama talks about good? When he doesn't talk specifics?
i don't recall saying anything about supporting Obama, can you show me where i said that? and i see you avoided responding to me when i asked what you meant about the whole black when its convenient thing, then you conveniently edited it, and what about McCain wanting to stay in Iraq, do you seriously support that?
I support staying until the Iraqis tell us to get out........
If you don't support McCain, who else but Obama??
and that is going to accomplish what? what right do you have to be there anywhere?
once again you didn't explain your comment that i called into question earlier.