Separate For Offer Section

We started debating this in the other thread, but I wanted to restate my opinion without getting "off topic"



If every seller on the site leaves the prices as FOR OFFER, I don't bother contacting this person unless its something actually rare. I haven't made a sale yet, but this is mainly because everything is FO.



So in my eyes, it is hurting sales since I  wont bother and other buyers might not either. When you look at someones sale thread, I'd rather make a quick decision about wanting something at the listed price instead of figuring out how much I want to pay and how much its actually worth.



Yes its up to the seller and I understand you dont' care how long your stuff sits there, but just my two cents



You could even say that my 0 transactions are a direct result of FO hurting sales. Had they all had prices, I would have some done.

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  • I dont bother with FO either..
  • The moment I see FO, I usually go to the next listing as well. It should say "Item is for sale and I have a price I want but Im not willing to let anyone know in case of the off chance someone offers me more"
  • I just looked at the first 10 threads in the sellers forum, 8 of them had prices listed. Your statement of "everything is FO" is a gross exaggeration.



    I prefer to see prices listed also. We already tell people to put FO in their thread title if they aren't listing prices, so they should be easy enough to skip over if you don't want to see them.
  • First off I don't think we need a separate section as we do a pretty good job policing people and make them add FO to the topic. If you don't do FO, then don't click the thread.



    Secondly, yes some people use FO to fish for a huge price, but many people use it to just get a fair offer that works for both people. Sometimes they don't have the time or don't want to put the effort into pricing their stuff but if someone gives them an offer that looks ok someone might get a better deal than if they priced anyway. Also some put a FO first and then get around to pricing later on (like me). My best deals on the site have been from people that had a FO thread only, so really you are the one that is missing out more than the others.



    And to follow up on what BA said earlier in that thread, you have zero feedback in 5 months. I don't think people are worried about you and the sales you would bring to the site as there are plenty of sales threads with prices that you haven't bought from.
  • Hmmm, I had no idea so many people had a vendetta against the FO... To me, it's harmless. You could shoot a seller a price a little under what they had in mind, and end up making a purchase. I've made a couple purchases like that and both the seller and I seemed satisfied.



    As for having a separate thread, that's really up to the Mods. I don't know, but it might make it harder on them having an extra thread. I would be nice to have it separate I guess, but it doesn't make much difference to me. I'm fine with the way things are

  • Originally posted by: doner24



    First off I don't think we need a separate section as we do a pretty good job policing people and make them add FO to the topic. If you don't do FO, then don't click the thread.



    Secondly, yes some people use FO to fish for a huge price, but many people use it to just get a fair offer that works for both people. Sometimes they don't have the time or don't want to put the effort into pricing their stuff but if someone gives them an offer that looks ok someone might get a better deal than if they priced anyway. Also some put a FO first and then get around to pricing later on (like me). My best deals on the site have been from people that had a FO thread only, so really you are the one that is missing out more than the others.



    And to follow up on what BA said earlier in that thread, you have zero feedback in 5 months. I don't think people are worried about you and the sales you would bring to the site as there are plenty of sales threads with prices that you haven't bought from.



    lol, I was typing while you posted this, but basically everything you said in your second paragraph is spot on with the way I feel about it



  • Originally posted by: doner24



    First off I don't think we need a separate section as we do a pretty good job policing people and make them add FO to the topic. If you don't do FO, then don't click the thread.



    Secondly, yes some people use FO to fish for a huge price, but many people use it to just get a fair offer that works for both people. Sometimes they don't have the time or don't want to put the effort into pricing their stuff but if someone gives them an offer that looks ok someone might get a better deal than if they priced anyway. Also some put a FO first and then get around to pricing later on (like me). My best deals on the site have been from people that had a FO thread only, so really you are the one that is missing out more than the others.



    And to follow up on what BA said earlier in that thread, you have zero feedback in 5 months. I don't think people are worried about you and the sales you would bring to the site as there are plenty of sales threads with prices that you haven't bought from.

    QFT



    I was just about to post something very similar. If it wasn't for FO I wouldn't have got so many great deals on this site. You guys avoiding it are missing out. Worst case scenario the seller says "No" and your back to square one. 




  • Well the worst case scenario is the seller ignores you or gets pissy for "low balling" them.



    I don't have a problem with FO threads, but they shouldn't get all haughty if they then start getting offers they don't like.
  • I think a suggestion on the buy/sell/trade category by someone who has ZERO transactions on here is just a troll post.

  • Originally posted by: jjrepro



    So in my eyes, it is hurting sales since I  wont bother and other buyers might not either.



    Thats OK. NA is about collecting and community. Not about selling!
  • Originally posted by: PeteDiak

    I dont bother with FO either..





    Yep, threads must be labelled FO. So I just keep scrolling.

    Would be cool if there was a way to filter them out.

  • Originally posted by: Mog




    Originally posted by: jjrepro



    So in my eyes, it is hurting sales since I  wont bother and other buyers might not either.



    Thats OK. NA is about collecting and community. Not about selling!R

    Rock on buddy!



  • Originally posted by: dra600n



    I think a suggestion on the buy/sell/trade category by someone who has ZERO transactions on here is just a troll post.



    Sheesh, does it get more obvious? You are right. I'm shocked people are even entertaining his comments. There are so many FS threads with prices it's ridiculous. If you are making fair offers to begin with you shouldn't have to worry about being called a low-baller, if that's what he is scared of.
  • Yea, I skip over the FO threads as well, I just think that if someone has a price in mind that they should state it instead of have people fish for it. That's just my opinion on the matter, I know to each their own.

  • Originally posted by: B.A.



    Well the worst case scenario is the seller ignores you or gets pissy for "low balling" them.



    I don't have a problem with FO threads, but they shouldn't get all haughty if they then start getting offers they don't like.





    Yep. I hate that. Can't tell you how many times I've made an offer on someone's FO and then have to message the, two days later "well if my offer is too low, what are you looking to get?" and then I get back a straight up eBay price. When I make a FO it's because I have a bunch of shit that I don't feel,like pricing out not because I'm fishing for over-offers. I've given people good deals and been happy with every sale I've made here.
  • I always respond to every offer I get on a FO thread. If it is simply too low, I mention that I'll have a chance to add prices in the future. The only people who I sometimes do not respond to are the "What do you want for xxx game?" And even then I try to respond saying that things are just for offer at the moment and I'll have prices later. But when you get a flurry of those questions in a row, it's easy to miss one.



    But my favorite is when you get "lowballed" by someone, not necessarily that bad, but like 50% of the items value. It's not craigslist here, but I don't get offended by low offers, I understand people want a deal. What gets offensive is when you get the low 50% offer, then you realize that person has a FS thread up where they want 125% worth for each of their items for sale. When I see that, I'm not going to negotiate much with them, it'll be my take it or leave it price.

  • Originally posted by: jonebone



     What gets offensive is when you get the low 50% offer, then you realize that person has a FS thread up where they want 125% worth for each of their items for sale. When I see that, I'm not going to negotiate much with them, it'll be my take it or leave it price.



    That is a smart man right there! Screw the resellers They (try to) take all the good deals and (try to) sell it to us collectors.

    This buds for you!(the beer icon is broken?)

  • Originally posted by: Benihana




    Originally posted by: jonebone



     What gets offensive is when you get the low 50% offer, then you realize that person has a FS thread up where they want 125% worth for each of their items for sale. When I see that, I'm not going to negotiate much with them, it'll be my take it or leave it price.



    That is a smart man right there! Screw the resellers They (try to) take all the good deals and (try to) sell it to us collectors.

    This buds for you!(the beer icon is broken?)



    works fine for me. You just have to manually type it out. : beer ; (without the spaces)
  • I dislike FO most of the time. When you respond with an offer too low, people get bitchy and complain that you are lowballing. If you have a price in mind already, just come out and say it, don't go fishing for higher offers. FO does have a place, but most of the time I don't bother unless it's someone I have a history in dealing with so that I know I can contact them and get a straight answer on what they are looking for. I have no problem paying what something is worth, but if you put FO, I'm going to come in with a price that is lower than I'm willing to pay for something most of the time.

  • Originally posted by: Ipsylos



    Yea, I skip over the FO threads as well, I just think that if someone has a price in mind that they should state it instead of have people fish for it. That's just my opinion on the matter, I know to each their own.







    You are assuming the worst. Did it ever cross your mind that when a person puts for offer they legitimately DO NOT have a price in mind? People just want offers sometimes because they can't get a true gauge on the price.
  • Thats just a bad idea. It just makes more work for the mods. Say I add prices to all my stuff in the For Offer thread after a few days, when I get around to it. Now I have to have a mod move it to the sale thread?



    I usually just put for offer because I dont have prices yet. If you want something I have, ask about it and I'll look up a fair value, but if nobody is interested in it I wont waste my time.
  • I can see why people are opposed to FO threads but overall whats the real benefit other than saving a few members time, when all they have to do is skip over that post?

  • Originally posted by: Paul



    I can see why people are opposed to FO threads but overall whats the real benefit other than saving a few members time, when all they have to do is skip over that post?





    Did I wake up in an alternate reality Paul?
  • For offer posts are great for new members looking to sell rare/uncommon items and dont know there value. Also great for members that want to unload a large lot of games without a price in mind. However I could very easily over look a FO thread that is for a few games with values that can easily be determined, for example chrono trigger, and dragon warrior 4 FO. When do you know if your offer will be good enough to get one of these games becuase your offer is obviousely going to be less then the going rate. There should be expirey dates for FO threads, becuase if prices stay on the rise and the seller doesnt settle on a price then its really just a waste of other members time, so I can see why people begin to over look these topics.
  • I don't read any f/o's. I think the wtb's are lame. I want to buy every rare game. Realy?
  • I don't read any f/o's. I think the wtb's are lame. I want to buy every rare game. Realy?

  • Originally posted by: RASK1904



    I don't read any f/o's. I think the wtb's are lame. I want to buy every rare game. Realy?



    You and everyone else! 

    http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=56&threadid=84433



    I like the WTB section. There has been a few times now that I have found people looking to buy stuff. Sometimes that is easier then posting a FS thread and getting all kinds of BS PMs.

  • Originally posted by: alexkidd401




    Originally posted by: Ipsylos



    Yea, I skip over the FO threads as well, I just think that if someone has a price in mind that they should state it instead of have people fish for it. That's just my opinion on the matter, I know to each their own.







    You are assuming the worst. Did it ever cross your mind that when a person puts for offer they legitimately DO NOT have a price in mind? People just want offers sometimes because they can't get a true gauge on the price.

    Maybe for super obscure items with little to no history to go off of yes. But I'm referring to the average FO thread, if someone has no price in mind for games they're selling, then how do they come to a fair deal since they have nothign in mind? I'm sure people with a list of games in a FO thread of theirs have prices in mind and know the value of the games. I understand if someone has a FO thread on an item like original Nintendo hanafuda cards or something along the lines of true obscurity, but most FO threads consist of games that have an average sale price that the seller most likely knows about and/or can easily get anytime.




  • I usually skip FOs...but then i go in a FS or NA auction and i see shipping to US only almost every time i want something so you dont know what pain is...

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