Yeah, it the Everdrive board is made for standard shell, yes it will fit with no problem whatsoever!\
I got that paint brand to paint a shell white....
worst project ever hahha, It was an epic fail for me...But I guess light colors are harder to paint on the carts, you need to be more experienced.
I have had no problems painting : black matte, black glossy, gold, silver, and dark blue (but has metallic finish).
i need to try red, and may be another brand for white.
The secret to a successful spraypaint job is patience. Use the proper paint/primer. Krylon Fusion is specifically formulated to bond plastics. Use 3-4 very thin coats, timed evenly at about 15-minute intervals. Don't wait more than one hour to apply a second coat. If you do that, the undercoat and overcoat of paint will shink at uneven rates and cause the finish to wrinkle as it dries. Keep the can about a foot away from the project using broad sweeps, starting and stopping the spray only when the nozzle is pointed off the edges of the project. By using several thin coats, it will create a thick, hard layer without any paint runs. Oh, and ignore where it says on the can that it is safe to touch your project after one or two hours. If you do, your fingerprints will be permanently embedded in the finish. If your using gloss, it is impossible to tell by looking at it if it's dry. Wait a bare minimum of 24 hours before touching it. Minimum 48 hours if you live in a humid climate like Louisiana. Even longer (72+ hours) during the cold months. Even then, before you touch, sniff your project. If you smell even a hint of paint odor, it is not fully cured yet.
What else... If you're spraying outside, place your project on a mobile platform of some sort so you can take it into an indoor area isolated from living space and outdoors, like a garage or shed. Don't leave it outside after dark or your paint job will turn into fly paper. Bringing it inside will also prevent dust, pollen, etc. The fumes will not be that bad after a couple of hours. And in the spring/fall, when the trees/flowers are dropping pollen everywhere and the cars are turning yellow, is not a good time of the year for spray painting. Period.
I think I've covered all my bases. The south is not the best climate for spray paint.
As someone earlier in this thread pointed out, now those Madden games don't have to be butchered for Repros hahaha. Although truth be told I sort of like the feeling of turning something fairly worthless into something sought after by turning those stinky sports games into Reproduction carts.
I'm actually mega MEGA curious about these and how well they color, and what sort of paint you'd use. The one part of Reproductions I've yet to really get behind is the lack of ability to customize the actual carts. Being able to paint them to your hearts content, (and the paint turning out nice), would kick all sorts of butt.
Stardust4ever is currently working with a couple of them and experimenting on paint!
Indeed I am
I am using Kryon Metallic Gold Spraypaint which is suitable for plastics. Funny thing, the paint looks like pale Copper when it's first applied (think shiny new pennies), then the golden yellow hue starts to set in as it dries. I sprayed two medium coats at 15 minute intervals. This photo was taken late afternoon about an hour later. The temperature outside was ~50F and was expected to drop to the 30s overnight, so I brought the TV tray inside when it got dark. The gold paint on the newspaper was dry to the touch this morning, but I'm gonna wait until at least this evening before attempting reassembling it. It remains to be seen how durable this gold paint is so hopefully it won't scuff with gentle insertion and removal from the cart slots. I'm using them as an Everdrive enclosure. Prior to painting, I pulled out the Drummel drill and cut a groove for the SD card slot. The snap together case fit like a glove.
No, the other one is still gray. I ordered two just in case I screwed up. I was probably about a little over a foot away from it. I make broad back and forth sweeping movements. You'll waste a little more paint for small projects, but it's worth it for consistency. I sprayed from North, South, East, and West, then repeated the procedure after 15 minutes. Notice there's how there's just as much gold on the newspaper as on the carts themselves. I'm not spraying the inside of the cart either, so once assembled, if you wanted to be a geek and you flip it over to look inside where the cart connector is, you'd still see some gray.
thats also a pretty good hole you made! it looks manufactured!
Thanks. My cutting wheels were about 1.5 inches in diameter, a little too big for the SD cart slot, so I used a smaller grinding wheel instead. The grinding wheel is much thicker than the cutting wheel and had a perfect width for the card slot. I fit the Everdrive board to the cartridge with the SD card still in it and used a pencil to trace the boundaries of the hole. Then I slowly expanded the hole from both sides of the cart wall until the SD card slid into the slot perfectly with the Everdrive board in place.
After the slot was completed, I proceded to paint it gold. As for durability, I've inserted and removed it from the SNES several times without any noticable scuff marks on the cart edges.
This is excellent. I have always wondered when someone would do this. Maybe next time I'm in Cypress/Houston I will pick some up and save the shipping. Is there a bulk purchase discount?
I will need some empty shells for when I learn how to put my ROM hacks on carts for my collection. Ever since Timewalk Games started offering my MQ Reborn mod I have been stoked at the thought of more of my hacks on carts so I can use real hardware.
BTW, if you are using car paint sprayed from a sprayer please use a good adhesion primer first. It will make the paint adhere to the plastic much better.
One issue I noticed was that the repro shells don't fit the expansion chip boards because there's no slot for the expansion pins. I disassembled a couple of carts last night and realised that the expansion chip boards with the extra pins have a completely different outline, so making a repro shell that fits both types of boards would be difficult or impossible. I also disassembled my retroUSB Donkey Kong Competition cart, and it seems the retroUSB boards were designed to fit both types of cart designs. The only problem is the retroUSB boards are too tight to fit properly in official shells, but they fit perfectly in the retroUSB cases. Anyway, I haven't tested them yet, but I believe it may be possible to fit an official non-expansion chip board without the extra pins into a retroUSB case. Either way, Bunnyboy has decided not to make his SNES cart shells available to the general public, and has made it difficult but not impossible to fit the retroUSB boards in a standard case. My DK Competition board would be able to fit in your SNES repro shells, but I would have to either saw the expansion pins off of the board (they are not used anyway) or gouge out slots in the case for the extra pins.
Either way, great work on your shells; they are very nice. I hope someday in the future you decide to do a run of clear or translucent colored plastic; that would be sweet...
One issue I noticed was that the repro shells don't fit the expansion chip boards because there's no slot for the expansion pins. I disassembled a couple of carts last night and realised that the expansion chip boards with the extra pins have a completely different outline, so making a repro shell that fits both types of boards would be difficult or impossible. I also disassembled my retroUSB Donkey Kong Competition cart, and it seems the retroUSB boards were designed to fit both types of cart designs. The only problem is the retroUSB boards are too tight to fit properly in official shells, but they fit perfectly in the retroUSB cases. Anyway, I haven't tested them yet, but I believe it may be possible to fit an official non-expansion chip board without the extra pins into a retroUSB case. Either way, Bunnyboy has decided not to make his SNES cart shells available to the general public, and has made it difficult but not impossible to fit the retroUSB boards in a standard case. My DK Competition board would be able to fit in your SNES repro shells, but I would have to either saw the expansion pins off of the board (they are not used anyway) or gouge out slots in the case for the extra pins.
Either way, great work on your shells; they are very nice. I hope someday in the future you decide to do a run of clear or translucent colored plastic; that would be sweet...
If you want to fit a game with the extra pins, you actually only need a file. Just take a look at an original shell, that has room for one, and file away the plastic that is stopping the board from going in. I have used files for lots of "modding" and with a bit of patience, the end result can be quite nice.
Gotta love Nintendo for doing two separate board layouts. Can't really blame them though. At least it's not the clusterf*** of oddly shaped Famicom carts that can't be opened without breakage half the time!!!
BTW, the Krylon Gold spraypainted Everdrive shell I posted a few pages back, sat in my sock drawer for a couple of months while I was busy playing NES and Atari. Somehow, it got a scratch running across the finish, so if you should decide to paint them, especially if you do something metallic, I recommend using a clear gloss top coat to protect it. I didn't use a top-coat layer like I should have, and the gold finish got dings in it. It's not too bad, but it's noticable. Maybe one of those tiny cans of hobby paint they sell at 2x the price of the larger cans, would have been more durable?
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I think I like better thisones than the original ones!
hehee..
Thanks!!
Yeah, it the Everdrive board is made for standard shell, yes it will fit with no problem whatsoever!\
I got that paint brand to paint a shell white....
worst project ever hahha, It was an epic fail for me...But I guess light colors are harder to paint on the carts, you need to be more experienced.
I have had no problems painting : black matte, black glossy, gold, silver, and dark blue (but has metallic finish).
i need to try red, and may be another brand for white.
The secret to a successful spraypaint job is patience. Use the proper paint/primer. Krylon Fusion is specifically formulated to bond plastics. Use 3-4 very thin coats, timed evenly at about 15-minute intervals. Don't wait more than one hour to apply a second coat. If you do that, the undercoat and overcoat of paint will shink at uneven rates and cause the finish to wrinkle as it dries. Keep the can about a foot away from the project using broad sweeps, starting and stopping the spray only when the nozzle is pointed off the edges of the project. By using several thin coats, it will create a thick, hard layer without any paint runs. Oh, and ignore where it says on the can that it is safe to touch your project after one or two hours. If you do, your fingerprints will be permanently embedded in the finish. If your using gloss, it is impossible to tell by looking at it if it's dry. Wait a bare minimum of 24 hours before touching it. Minimum 48 hours if you live in a humid climate like Louisiana. Even longer (72+ hours) during the cold months. Even then, before you touch, sniff your project. If you smell even a hint of paint odor, it is not fully cured yet.
What else... If you're spraying outside, place your project on a mobile platform of some sort so you can take it into an indoor area isolated from living space and outdoors, like a garage or shed. Don't leave it outside after dark or your paint job will turn into fly paper. Bringing it inside will also prevent dust, pollen, etc. The fumes will not be that bad after a couple of hours. And in the spring/fall, when the trees/flowers are dropping pollen everywhere and the cars are turning yellow, is not a good time of the year for spray painting. Period.
I think I've covered all my bases. The south is not the best climate for spray paint.
I'll try all your pointers, and may be I will do some Colored repro runs, like for zelda, and other games.
Thanks!
As someone earlier in this thread pointed out, now those Madden games don't have to be butchered for Repros hahaha. Although truth be told I sort of like the feeling of turning something fairly worthless into something sought after by turning those stinky sports games into Reproduction carts.
I'm actually mega MEGA curious about these and how well they color, and what sort of paint you'd use. The one part of Reproductions I've yet to really get behind is the lack of ability to customize the actual carts. Being able to paint them to your hearts content, (and the paint turning out nice), would kick all sorts of butt.
Any luck on the painting front?
Well, Sports games are already risen in price for like 300% (based on jjgames.com and some other similar sites)
you can still get them for cheap at some of your local stores. but eventually they will run out, and guess what?
Maddens will 100 bucks on ebay for rarity lol.
Originally posted by: pichichi010
Stardust4ever is currently working with a couple of them and experimenting on paint!
Indeed I am
I am using Kryon Metallic Gold Spraypaint which is suitable for plastics. Funny thing, the paint looks like pale Copper when it's first applied (think shiny new pennies), then the golden yellow hue starts to set in as it dries. I sprayed two medium coats at 15 minute intervals. This photo was taken late afternoon about an hour later. The temperature outside was ~50F and was expected to drop to the 30s overnight, so I brought the TV tray inside when it got dark. The gold paint on the newspaper was dry to the touch this morning, but I'm gonna wait until at least this evening before attempting reassembling it. It remains to be seen how durable this gold paint is so hopefully it won't scuff with gentle insertion and removal from the cart slots. I'm using them as an Everdrive enclosure. Prior to painting, I pulled out the Drummel drill and cut a groove for the SD card slot. The snap together case fit like a glove.
you got skills!
did you painted both gold?
how far from the cart did you kept the bottle while painting?
I have that same painting on my garage, will do some tests!
EDIT: Finished Product, 24k Gold Everdrive...
thats also a pretty good hole you made! it looks manufactured!
Thanks. My cutting wheels were about 1.5 inches in diameter, a little too big for the SD cart slot, so I used a smaller grinding wheel instead. The grinding wheel is much thicker than the cutting wheel and had a perfect width for the card slot. I fit the Everdrive board to the cartridge with the SD card still in it and used a pencil to trace the boundaries of the hole. Then I slowly expanded the hole from both sides of the cart wall until the SD card slid into the slot perfectly with the Everdrive board in place.
After the slot was completed, I proceded to paint it gold. As for durability, I've inserted and removed it from the SNES several times without any noticable scuff marks on the cart edges.
would car paint with e painting gun work better?
I will need some empty shells for when I learn how to put my ROM hacks on carts for my collection. Ever since Timewalk Games started offering my MQ Reborn mod I have been stoked at the thought of more of my hacks on carts so I can use real hardware.
BTW, if you are using car paint sprayed from a sprayer please use a good adhesion primer first. It will make the paint adhere to the plastic much better.
Can you hack, program, translate? PM pls.
Either way, great work on your shells; they are very nice. I hope someday in the future you decide to do a run of clear or translucent colored plastic; that would be sweet...
Originally posted by: stardust4ever
One issue I noticed was that the repro shells don't fit the expansion chip boards because there's no slot for the expansion pins. I disassembled a couple of carts last night and realised that the expansion chip boards with the extra pins have a completely different outline, so making a repro shell that fits both types of boards would be difficult or impossible. I also disassembled my retroUSB Donkey Kong Competition cart, and it seems the retroUSB boards were designed to fit both types of cart designs. The only problem is the retroUSB boards are too tight to fit properly in official shells, but they fit perfectly in the retroUSB cases. Anyway, I haven't tested them yet, but I believe it may be possible to fit an official non-expansion chip board without the extra pins into a retroUSB case. Either way, Bunnyboy has decided not to make his SNES cart shells available to the general public, and has made it difficult but not impossible to fit the retroUSB boards in a standard case. My DK Competition board would be able to fit in your SNES repro shells, but I would have to either saw the expansion pins off of the board (they are not used anyway) or gouge out slots in the case for the extra pins.
Either way, great work on your shells; they are very nice. I hope someday in the future you decide to do a run of clear or translucent colored plastic; that would be sweet...
If you want to fit a game with the extra pins, you actually only need a file. Just take a look at an original shell, that has room for one, and file away the plastic that is stopping the board from going in. I have used files for lots of "modding" and with a bit of patience, the end result can be quite nice.
So I now can make the PAL shells that fit on NTSC console. Minimum quantity is high?
what do you guys say?
I would be able to add the feature of which shell do you want on my repros tho.
Originally posted by: pichichi010
Hey JCE3000GT yes I offer bulk prices!
What are your bulk rates? I've got tons of carts that I need new shells for.
for the Fx? mmmm gooood idea.
Gotta love Nintendo for doing two separate board layouts. Can't really blame them though. At least it's not the clusterf*** of oddly shaped Famicom carts that can't be opened without breakage half the time!!!
BTW, the Krylon Gold spraypainted Everdrive shell I posted a few pages back, sat in my sock drawer for a couple of months while I was busy playing NES and Atari. Somehow, it got a scratch running across the finish, so if you should decide to paint them, especially if you do something metallic, I recommend using a clear gloss top coat to protect it. I didn't use a top-coat layer like I should have, and the gold finish got dings in it. It's not too bad, but it's noticable. Maybe one of those tiny cans of hobby paint they sell at 2x the price of the larger cans, would have been more durable?
http://rosecoloredgaming.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/wiggy-how-to-and-restoration-guides-2-lets-paint/
He will be painting shells in different colors with car paint with gloss/protection finish!
I will get a sample in a few days!
Do the blank carts have anything that distinguishes them from regular, authentic cartridges?
He mentions it on the first page. These do not have the Nintendo logo.