You're not even worth it I make the effort to transcribe my thoughts in English. ,
Just a discusiion is established on points that are made by others, and not deducted by your unhealthy habit to eradicate general conclusions that support people in their speech .
My logic and my arguentation ? Are you kidding me? Who is the pedant balance economic théroies on such a specific question that the value of a video game? Sorry , but the economic context surrounding this game, specifically, is known to people to whom you answer . Rather it is the way you present your assumptions and your conclusions are laughable , because basically , you do not know what you mean exactly . This is not a general problem , but a specific problem. All your arguments tell us that you're not aware of the specific situation. Basically, your a beginner, that's your problem, no matter the two three conceptual foundations on which
Its real simple to me, anyone who would shell out 25k or more for this condition of cart would have the resources to get one in better shape and not on ebay
I feel real bad for muresan but i would bet my best looking mario/duckhunt cart he wont get paid anywhere close to 100k for this out of this auction
Ma logique et mon arguentation? Est-ce que tu veux rire de moi? Qui est le pédant qui balance des théroies économiques sur une question aussi spécifique que la valeur d'un jeu vidéo? Désolé, mais le contexte économique qui entoure ce jeu, précisément, est connu des gens auxquels tu réponds. C'est plutôt la façon dont tu présentes tes hypothèses et tes conclusions qui sont risibles, parce qu'au fond, tu ne sais pas de quoi tu parles exactement.
Its real simple to me, anyone who would shell out 25k or more for this condition of cart would have the resources to get one in better shape and not on ebay
I feel real bad for muresan but i would bet my best looking mario/duckhunt cart he wont get paid anywhere close to 100k for this out of this auction
Yeah, apparently a two year old placed the winning bid. Muresan gained nothing yet presumably he is now out $250 for the listing fees. I propose we track down this "bubblemansjunk" guy and make an example out of him. Vigilantee e-justice at it's finest!
My logic and my verbiage ? Are you kidding me? Who is the pedantic one imposing macroeconomic theories on such a specific question as the value of a particular video game? Sorry , but the economic context surrounding this game, specifically, is known to people on this thread. Rather it is the way you present your assumptions and your conclusions are laughable , because basically , you do not know what you are talking about. This is not a macroeconomic question but a specific question. All your arguments indicate to us that you're not aware of the specific situation here....
If I may take a hack at it. And only a hack with no real clue, I'd say it was more like this ^
And only because trying to trying french is a lot more fun than the sorry direction this is going
Its real simple to me, anyone who would shell out 25k or more for this condition of cart would have the resources to get one in better shape and not on ebay
I feel real bad for muresan but i would bet my best looking mario/duckhunt cart he wont get paid anywhere close to 100k for this out of this auction
Yeah, apparently a two year old placed the winning bid. Muresan gained nothing yet presumably he is now out $250 for the listing fees. I propose we track down this "bubblemansjunk" guy and make an example out of him. Vigilantee e-justice at it's finest!
Haha agreed! Holy crap i have never sold anything on ebay but dont they take 10% or something? It just dawned on me will they take 10k and make muresan go through a long claims process to get i back or do you think ebay will have common since to verify he got paid before taking the fee just curious how this works?
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
What part of what you wrote do you believe applies to what you responded to? And yes I'm aware of your likely inclination to say all of it. So if you'd like to critique what you quoted, then go ahead and do so. Anyone can throw around red herrings and ad hominems without proving a single thing. ORLY?
If all points of contention were realistically settled on the declaration of "I'm right and you're wrong", then what's the use of proof?
Well, the from the post I directly quoted, see above in red. Nice try to use ad hominem to distract from my overall point though, the FACT is that you have used nothing but prejudice to justify these crazy prices on the auction throughout a large number of posts. Let's see this proof that you claim to need to back up your arguments? My proof on the value of this cart is based on many actual data points, not speculation.
And "inclination to say all of it"? Nice generalization....try again.
I will often say things that may seem redundant to some in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat.
I thought I had already mentioned that everyone's opinions are based in prejudices, but that might have been when my computer froze up and had to be rebooted. If so, then I'll say it again. Everyone is basing their opinion on this in prejudices. If that weren't the case, then we'd be witnessing those with god-like all encompassing knowledge.
The most fundamental fact regarding this thread is that most of it is based entirely in speculation. The speculation of price. The speculation of fraud. The speculation of conspiracy, etc.
You don't have any proof of the value of this cart. You don't have any more proof of the seriousness of these bidders than I do. At least that you've shown. You have proof of previous sales, not upcoming ones. I would imagine most here do who actually care about and follow these things.
Its real simple to me, anyone who would shell out 25k or more for this condition of cart would have the resources to get one in better shape and not on ebay
I feel real bad for muresan but i would bet my best looking mario/duckhunt cart he wont get paid anywhere close to 100k for this out of this auction
Yeah, apparently a two year old placed the winning bid. Muresan gained nothing yet presumably he is now out $250 for the listing fees. I propose we track down this "bubblemansjunk" guy and make an example out of him. Vigilantee e-justice at it's finest!
Haha agreed! Holy crap i have never sold anything on ebay but dont they take 10% or something? It just dawned on me will they take 10k and make muresan go through a long claims process to get i back or do you think ebay will have common since to verify he got paid before taking the fee just curious how this works?
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
What part of what you wrote do you believe applies to what you responded to? And yes I'm aware of your likely inclination to say all of it. So if you'd like to critique what you quoted, then go ahead and do so. Anyone can throw around red herrings and ad hominems without proving a single thing. ORLY?
If all points of contention were realistically settled on the declaration of "I'm right and you're wrong", then what's the use of proof?
Well, the from the post I directly quoted, see above in red. Nice try to use ad hominem to distract from my overall point though, the FACT is that you have used nothing but prejudice to justify these crazy prices on the auction throughout a large number of posts. Let's see this proof that you claim to need to back up your arguments? My proof on the value of this cart is based on many actual data points, not speculation.
And "inclination to say all of it"? Nice generalization....try again.
I will often say things that may seem redundant to some in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat.
I thought I had already mentioned that everyone's opinions are based in prejudices, but that might have been when my computer froze up and had to be rebooted. If so, then I'll say it again. Everyone is basing their opinion on this in prejudices. If that weren't the case, then we'd be witnessing those with god-like all encompassing knowledge.
The most fundamental fact regarding this thread is that most of it is based entirely in speculation. The speculation of price. The speculation of fraud. The speculation of conspiracy, etc.
You don't have any proof of the value of this cart. You don't have any more proof of the seriousness of these bidders than I do. At least that you've shown. You have proof of previous sales, not upcoming ones. I would imagine most here do who actually care about and follow these things.
I don't have any proof that you aren't a vegetable.
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
What part of what you wrote do you believe applies to what you responded to? And yes I'm aware of your likely inclination to say all of it. So if you'd like to critique what you quoted, then go ahead and do so. Anyone can throw around red herrings and ad hominems without proving a single thing. ORLY?
If all points of contention were realistically settled on the declaration of "I'm right and you're wrong", then what's the use of proof?
Well, the from the post I directly quoted, see above in red. Nice try to use ad hominem to distract from my overall point though, the FACT is that you have used nothing but prejudice to justify these crazy prices on the auction throughout a large number of posts. Let's see this proof that you claim to need to back up your arguments? My proof on the value of this cart is based on many actual data points, not speculation.
And "inclination to say all of it"? Nice generalization....try again.
I will often say things that may seem redundant to some in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat.
I thought I had already mentioned that everyone's opinions are based in prejudices, but that might have been when my computer froze up and had to be rebooted. If so, then I'll say it again. Everyone is basing their opinion on this in prejudices. If that weren't the case, then we'd be witnessing those with god-like all encompassing knowledge.
The most fundamental fact regarding this thread is that most of it is based entirely in speculation. The speculation of price. The speculation of fraud. The speculation of conspiracy, etc.
You don't have any proof of the value of this cart. You don't have any more proof of the seriousness of these bidders than I do. At least that you've shown. You have proof of previous sales, not upcoming ones. I would imagine most here do who actually care about and follow these things.
Sorry, your phrase "may seem redundant" is incorrect, what you said earlier certainly was redundant.
Also, do you understand the definition of the word prejudice? If so, you would see that most of the opinions in this thread on the value of the cart aren't prejudiced, rather they are based on reason and actual experience.
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
What part of what you wrote do you believe applies to what you responded to? And yes I'm aware of your likely inclination to say all of it. So if you'd like to critique what you quoted, then go ahead and do so. Anyone can throw around red herrings and ad hominems without proving a single thing. ORLY?
If all points of contention were realistically settled on the declaration of "I'm right and you're wrong", then what's the use of proof?
Well, the from the post I directly quoted, see above in red. Nice try to use ad hominem to distract from my overall point though, the FACT is that you have used nothing but prejudice to justify these crazy prices on the auction throughout a large number of posts. Let's see this proof that you claim to need to back up your arguments? My proof on the value of this cart is based on many actual data points, not speculation.
And "inclination to say all of it"? Nice generalization....try again.
I will often say things that may seem redundant to some in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat.
I thought I had already mentioned that everyone's opinions are based in prejudices, but that might have been when my computer froze up and had to be rebooted. If so, then I'll say it again. Everyone is basing their opinion on this in prejudices. If that weren't the case, then we'd be witnessing those with god-like all encompassing knowledge.
The most fundamental fact regarding this thread is that most of it is based entirely in speculation. The speculation of price. The speculation of fraud. The speculation of conspiracy, etc.
You don't have any proof of the value of this cart. You don't have any more proof of the seriousness of these bidders than I do. At least that you've shown. You have proof of previous sales, not upcoming ones. I would imagine most here do who actually care about and follow these things.
I don't have any proof that you aren't a vegetable.
Ok, this made me LOL....and on that note I am heading to bed. Goodnight moon.
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
What part of what you wrote do you believe applies to what you responded to? And yes I'm aware of your likely inclination to say all of it. So if you'd like to critique what you quoted, then go ahead and do so. Anyone can throw around red herrings and ad hominems without proving a single thing. ORLY?
If all points of contention were realistically settled on the declaration of "I'm right and you're wrong", then what's the use of proof?
Well, the from the post I directly quoted, see above in red. Nice try to use ad hominem to distract from my overall point though, the FACT is that you have used nothing but prejudice to justify these crazy prices on the auction throughout a large number of posts. Let's see this proof that you claim to need to back up your arguments? My proof on the value of this cart is based on many actual data points, not speculation.
And "inclination to say all of it"? Nice generalization....try again.
I will often say things that may seem redundant to some in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat.
I thought I had already mentioned that everyone's opinions are based in prejudices, but that might have been when my computer froze up and had to be rebooted. If so, then I'll say it again. Everyone is basing their opinion on this in prejudices. If that weren't the case, then we'd be witnessing those with god-like all encompassing knowledge.
The most fundamental fact regarding this thread is that most of it is based entirely in speculation. The speculation of price. The speculation of fraud. The speculation of conspiracy, etc.
You don't have any proof of the value of this cart. You don't have any more proof of the seriousness of these bidders than I do. At least that you've shown. You have proof of previous sales, not upcoming ones. I would imagine most here do who actually care about and follow these things.
I don't have any proof that you aren't a vegetable.
I don't have any proof that anything posted on the Internet is real.
Cyberspace is a lot like a cow pasture: Lots of bullsh¡t piles everywhere!
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
After going through your posts again, the only thing that makes sense is that you are getting ready to sell a NWC cart soon...? If so congrats, you certainly added to th hype train. Maybe all of these people you referenced that have no idea regarding the actual value of the cart, but have been drawn to the auction from advertising will pay you more than you should get for your cart.....send me the crow via priority.
Are you talking to me? If so, and if that's the only thing that makes sense to you, then perhaps you've stopped short of thinking of viable alternatives? I don't own a NWC. And no this isn't some conspiracy to sell one. What's with all the conspiracy-like theories around here anyway?
I do however like a lively conversation; especially regarding topics where popular opinion may not be based in rationality, but in dogma. This is doubly so when it involves markets and macroeconomics, which are among the least understood and most highly debated of all the disciplines that still remain.
The point is that no other "viable alternative" makes sense, but once again, thanks for generalizing. I am really starting to question your intelligence....conspiracy theory? The only conspiracy theory is you trying to justify a beat up NWC selling for almost 100K. And Dogma in this argument....get real.
Your attempt at using macroeconomics and general economic theory to rationalize a sale like this is laughable. Adam Smith is rolling in his grave < see what I did there!?!
Because something doesn't make sense to you says nothing about its viability. If you want to believe I have a NWC and have been trying to jack up the price, then go ahead. Reality hasn't exactly been an impediment to your belief system up until this point anyway.
I didn't say this game was worth $100k or anything near it either. I'm just as surprised as some others may be that it went that high. That's not to say we didn't have a serious bidder who came close to that amount. That's one of the most interesting things to contemplate about this situation.
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
After going through your posts again, the only thing that makes sense is that you are getting ready to sell a NWC cart soon...? If so congrats, you certainly added to th hype train. Maybe all of these people you referenced that have no idea regarding the actual value of the cart, but have been drawn to the auction from advertising will pay you more than you should get for your cart.....send me the crow via priority.
Are you talking to me? If so, and if that's the only thing that makes sense to you, then perhaps you've stopped short of thinking of viable alternatives? I don't own a NWC. And no this isn't some conspiracy to sell one. What's with all the conspiracy-like theories around here anyway?
I do however like a lively conversation; especially regarding topics where popular opinion may not be based in rationality, but in dogma. This is doubly so when it involves markets and macroeconomics, which are among the least understood and most highly debated of all the disciplines that still remain.
The point is that no other "viable alternative" makes sense, but once again, thanks for generalizing. I am really starting to question your intelligence....conspiracy theory? The only conspiracy theory is you trying to justify a beat up NWC selling for almost 100K. And Dogma in this argument....get real.
Your attempt at using macroeconomics and general economic theory to rationalize a sale like this is laughable. Adam Smith is rolling in his grave < see what I did there!?!
Because something doesn't make sense to you says nothing about its viability. If you want to believe I have a NWC and have been trying to jack up the price, then go ahead. Reality hasn't exactly been an impediment to your belief system up until this point anyway.
I didn't say this game was worth $100k or anything near it either. I'm just as surprised as some others may be that it went that high. That's not to say we didn't have a serious bidder who came close to that amount. That's one of the most interesting things to contemplate about this situation.
Please explain what point that you are trying to make or what detail about the auction of this game doesn't make sense to me? So I'm the one that hasn't been using reality in my arguments, as you try to use philosophical macro economics to justify an unreal (sorry conspiracy theory to you) sale of this cart....cute. You certainly have a knack for dodging items that people point out to you, while creatively dissecting others posts.
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
Wow, why are you so condescending? What's your point about out flat questionning my integrity, over-interpreting my views, picking me on about the use of short-cut words? We're all in the expectative about the situation. You're the one twisting around the context like you're the only one around understanding what's going on. You've outtalked guys that are interested in the specific subject at hand just like you were the no.1 ressource about it all of a sudden.
Nobody claims to know the absolute truth about this bidding, but we're all wise enough to sit on this and see how the situation unfolds. You're stirring up something that might not even worth it, you're the one coming up with a $25k+ expectations that might just be wrong.
Lively conversation is typically replete with points and counterpoints. Is it not? That doesn't have anything to do with your integrity in my mind. I'm not questioning your integrity, but rather your logic and verbiage. Care to address my points regarding it rather than sidestep them?
Tu ne vaux même pas la peine que je fasse l'effort de transcrire mes pensées en anglais.,
Justement, une discusiion s'instaure sur des points qui sont apportés par les autres, et non déduits par ta maladive habitude à extirper des conclusions générales à ce que les gens soutiennent dans leur discours.
Ma logique et mon arguentation? Est-ce que tu veux rire de moi? Qui est le pédant qui balance des théroies économiques sur une question aussi spécifique que la valeur d'un jeu vidéo? Désolé, mais le contexte économique qui entoure ce jeu, précisément, est connu des gens auxquels tu réponds. C'est plutôt la façon dont tu présentes tes hypothèses et tes conclusions qui sont risibles, parce qu'au fond, tu ne sais pas de quoi tu parles exactement. Ce n'est pas un problème général, mais un problème spécifique. Tous tes arguments nous indiquent que tu n'es pas conscient de la situation spécifique. Dans le fond, tes un débutant, c'est ça ton problème, peu importe les deux trois fondations conceptuelles sur lesquelles tu bases ton argument dépassé, t'es un débutant, et tu passes à côté du point.
Maintenant, fais nous plaisir, prend une chaise à ta hauteur, et essai de nous parler sur ton approprié.
So apparently the answer is "No, I don't care to address them"? If translated correctly, your argument is based in fallacious logic, specifically argumentum ad populum.
Just because you disagree with something or someone doesn't make it inaccurate. Just because you believe everything is already known doesn't make it so. Just because you think I don't know what I'm saying doesn't make it so. Just because a majority believe something doesn't make it so.
'It is not worth an intelligent man's time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.'
- GH Hardy
Nearly all, if not all, advanced thought is rejected at first. That's why warnings of the housing crash, stock market crash, and dollar's crash comparative to commodities like gold and silver went unheeded to around 98% of those I gave them to. I understand how difficult it is for most to distinguish between outright stupidity from foresight. So is the story of the evolution of all science.
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
What part of what you wrote do you believe applies to what you responded to? And yes I'm aware of your likely inclination to say all of it. So if you'd like to critique what you quoted, then go ahead and do so. Anyone can throw around red herrings and ad hominems without proving a single thing. ORLY?
If all points of contention were realistically settled on the declaration of "I'm right and you're wrong", then what's the use of proof?
Well, the from the post I directly quoted, see above in red. Nice try to use ad hominem to distract from my overall point though, the FACT is that you have used nothing but prejudice to justify these crazy prices on the auction throughout a large number of posts. Let's see this proof that you claim to need to back up your arguments? My proof on the value of this cart is based on many actual data points, not speculation.
And "inclination to say all of it"? Nice generalization....try again.
I will often say things that may seem redundant to some in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat.
I thought I had already mentioned that everyone's opinions are based in prejudices, but that might have been when my computer froze up and had to be rebooted. If so, then I'll say it again. Everyone is basing their opinion on this in prejudices. If that weren't the case, then we'd be witnessing those with god-like all encompassing knowledge.
The most fundamental fact regarding this thread is that most of it is based entirely in speculation. The speculation of price. The speculation of fraud. The speculation of conspiracy, etc.
You don't have any proof of the value of this cart. You don't have any more proof of the seriousness of these bidders than I do. At least that you've shown. You have proof of previous sales, not upcoming ones. I would imagine most here do who actually care about and follow these things.
I don't have any proof that you aren't a vegetable.
Somebody just quote me w/ a reply to my question of did the cart get paid. I'm not going to read this thread anymore, it looks like a pile of dog puke. The thread should say it was paid or not paid then get closed already.
Somebody just quote me w/ a reply to my question of did the cart get paid. I'm not going to read this thread anymore, it looks like a pile of dog puke. The thread should say it was paid or not paid then get closed already.
The top bidder backed out with a lame excuse ("My 2 year old accidentally bid on it!")
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
What part of what you wrote do you believe applies to what you responded to? And yes I'm aware of your likely inclination to say all of it. So if you'd like to critique what you quoted, then go ahead and do so. Anyone can throw around red herrings and ad hominems without proving a single thing. ORLY?
If all points of contention were realistically settled on the declaration of "I'm right and you're wrong", then what's the use of proof?
Well, the from the post I directly quoted, see above in red. Nice try to use ad hominem to distract from my overall point though, the FACT is that you have used nothing but prejudice to justify these crazy prices on the auction throughout a large number of posts. Let's see this proof that you claim to need to back up your arguments? My proof on the value of this cart is based on many actual data points, not speculation.
And "inclination to say all of it"? Nice generalization....try again.
I will often say things that may seem redundant to some in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat.
I thought I had already mentioned that everyone's opinions are based in prejudices, but that might have been when my computer froze up and had to be rebooted. If so, then I'll say it again. Everyone is basing their opinion on this in prejudices. If that weren't the case, then we'd be witnessing those with god-like all encompassing knowledge.
The most fundamental fact regarding this thread is that most of it is based entirely in speculation. The speculation of price. The speculation of fraud. The speculation of conspiracy, etc.
You don't have any proof of the value of this cart. You don't have any more proof of the seriousness of these bidders than I do. At least that you've shown. You have proof of previous sales, not upcoming ones. I would imagine most here do who actually care about and follow these things.
Sorry, your phrase "may seem redundant" is incorrect, what you said earlier certainly was redundant.
Also, do you understand the definition of the word prejudice? If so, you would see that most of the opinions in this thread on the value of the cart aren't prejudiced, rather they are based on reason and actual experience.
The last paragraph...well just
You do understand that I can post pictures of facepalms in order to sidestep points too, right? Everything would be so much more simple of pictures of facepalms, or saying "No, I'm right and you're wrong" resolved anything.
Now let's take a look at this hypothetical:
"I will often say things that are redundant in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat."
Would the point have changed whatsoever?
And yes I do indeed understand the word prejudice. I also understand that you're quite prejudiced against me. Especially my knowledge of markets, games, and likely general intellect. Could it be a hasty generalization to think that I have little to no knowledge in these* areas in comparison to you?
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
What part of what you wrote do you believe applies to what you responded to? And yes I'm aware of your likely inclination to say all of it. So if you'd like to critique what you quoted, then go ahead and do so. Anyone can throw around red herrings and ad hominems without proving a single thing. ORLY?
If all points of contention were realistically settled on the declaration of "I'm right and you're wrong", then what's the use of proof?
Well, the from the post I directly quoted, see above in red. Nice try to use ad hominem to distract from my overall point though, the FACT is that you have used nothing but prejudice to justify these crazy prices on the auction throughout a large number of posts. Let's see this proof that you claim to need to back up your arguments? My proof on the value of this cart is based on many actual data points, not speculation.
And "inclination to say all of it"? Nice generalization....try again.
I will often say things that may seem redundant to some in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat.
I thought I had already mentioned that everyone's opinions are based in prejudices, but that might have been when my computer froze up and had to be rebooted. If so, then I'll say it again. Everyone is basing their opinion on this in prejudices. If that weren't the case, then we'd be witnessing those with god-like all encompassing knowledge.
The most fundamental fact regarding this thread is that most of it is based entirely in speculation. The speculation of price. The speculation of fraud. The speculation of conspiracy, etc.
You don't have any proof of the value of this cart. You don't have any more proof of the seriousness of these bidders than I do. At least that you've shown. You have proof of previous sales, not upcoming ones. I would imagine most here do who actually care about and follow these things.
Sorry, your phrase "may seem redundant" is incorrect, what you said earlier certainly was redundant.
Also, do you understand the definition of the word prejudice? If so, you would see that most of the opinions in this thread on the value of the cart aren't prejudiced, rather they are based on reason and actual experience.
The last paragraph...well just
You do understand that I can post pictures of facepalms in order to sidestep points too, right? Everything would be so much more simple of pictures of facepalms, or saying "No, I'm right and you're wrong" resolved anything.
Now let's take a look at this hypothetical:
"I will often say things that are redundant in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat."
Would the point have changed whatsoever?
And yes I do indeed understand the word prejudice. I also understand that you're quite prejudiced against me. Especially my knowledge of markets, games, and likely general intellect. Could it be a hasty generalization to think that I have little to no knowledge in these* areas in comparison to you?
Nah! That'd just be impossible. Right?
I wasn't posting a facepalm to sidestep anything, rather to emphasize one of my points. You pointing that out doesn't make me any less right.
Just picking nits in regards to your incorrect use of preconceived prejudices...and then your incorrect statement to try to defend your use of it to prove a point.
I have no prejudice against you on any of those points as that is not what I'm arguing about, I am only pointing out that your arguments regarding this individual game are prejudiced....as in not based on any factual information (yes previous sales count as factual information, regardless of what your macro-econ text book tells you). I'm sure you are a smart person, it's just that your passion is misguided and your philosophical arguments are weak at best.
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
After going through your posts again, the only thing that makes sense is that you are getting ready to sell a NWC cart soon...? If so congrats, you certainly added to th hype train. Maybe all of these people you referenced that have no idea regarding the actual value of the cart, but have been drawn to the auction from advertising will pay you more than you should get for your cart.....send me the crow via priority.
Are you talking to me? If so, and if that's the only thing that makes sense to you, then perhaps you've stopped short of thinking of viable alternatives? I don't own a NWC. And no this isn't some conspiracy to sell one. What's with all the conspiracy-like theories around here anyway?
I do however like a lively conversation; especially regarding topics where popular opinion may not be based in rationality, but in dogma. This is doubly so when it involves markets and macroeconomics, which are among the least understood and most highly debated of all the disciplines that still remain.
The point is that no other "viable alternative" makes sense, but once again, thanks for generalizing. I am really starting to question your intelligence....conspiracy theory? The only conspiracy theory is you trying to justify a beat up NWC selling for almost 100K. And Dogma in this argument....get real.
Your attempt at using macroeconomics and general economic theory to rationalize a sale like this is laughable. Adam Smith is rolling in his grave < see what I did there!?!
Because something doesn't make sense to you says nothing about its viability. If you want to believe I have a NWC and have been trying to jack up the price, then go ahead. Reality hasn't exactly been an impediment to your belief system up until this point anyway.
I didn't say this game was worth $100k or anything near it either. I'm just as surprised as some others may be that it went that high. That's not to say we didn't have a serious bidder who came close to that amount. That's one of the most interesting things to contemplate about this situation.
Please explain what point that you are trying to make or what detail about the auction of this game doesn't make sense to me? So I'm the one that hasn't been using reality in my arguments, as you try to use philosophical macro economics to justify an unreal (sorry conspiracy theory to you) sale of this cart....cute. You certainly have a knack for dodging items that people point out to you, while creatively dissecting others posts.
Well first off you said that the only opinion on this cart which is based on prejudice in this entire thread was mine. You also said my opinion 'wasn't based on reason or actual experience' when you hardly have a clue about who I am, what I've done, or of my thought processes. Then you said the only thing that makes sense is that I own a NWC and am trying to jack up the price.
These are some examples of you jumping to conclusions. Examples of you believing you've got it figured out, when in reality it's actually an example of you not understanding how to apply or use critical thinking in these areas. No offense intended. Jumping to conclusions rarely leads to the correct ones.
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
What part of what you wrote do you believe applies to what you responded to? And yes I'm aware of your likely inclination to say all of it. So if you'd like to critique what you quoted, then go ahead and do so. Anyone can throw around red herrings and ad hominems without proving a single thing. ORLY?
If all points of contention were realistically settled on the declaration of "I'm right and you're wrong", then what's the use of proof?
Well, the from the post I directly quoted, see above in red. Nice try to use ad hominem to distract from my overall point though, the FACT is that you have used nothing but prejudice to justify these crazy prices on the auction throughout a large number of posts. Let's see this proof that you claim to need to back up your arguments? My proof on the value of this cart is based on many actual data points, not speculation.
And "inclination to say all of it"? Nice generalization....try again.
I will often say things that may seem redundant to some in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat.
I thought I had already mentioned that everyone's opinions are based in prejudices, but that might have been when my computer froze up and had to be rebooted. If so, then I'll say it again. Everyone is basing their opinion on this in prejudices. If that weren't the case, then we'd be witnessing those with god-like all encompassing knowledge.
The most fundamental fact regarding this thread is that most of it is based entirely in speculation. The speculation of price. The speculation of fraud. The speculation of conspiracy, etc.
You don't have any proof of the value of this cart. You don't have any more proof of the seriousness of these bidders than I do. At least that you've shown. You have proof of previous sales, not upcoming ones. I would imagine most here do who actually care about and follow these things.
Sorry, your phrase "may seem redundant" is incorrect, what you said earlier certainly was redundant.
Also, do you understand the definition of the word prejudice? If so, you would see that most of the opinions in this thread on the value of the cart aren't prejudiced, rather they are based on reason and actual experience.
The last paragraph...well just
You do understand that I can post pictures of facepalms in order to sidestep points too, right? Everything would be so much more simple of pictures of facepalms, or saying "No, I'm right and you're wrong" resolved anything.
Now let's take a look at this hypothetical:
"I will often say things that are redundant in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat."
Would the point have changed whatsoever?
And yes I do indeed understand the word prejudice. I also understand that you're quite prejudiced against me. Especially my knowledge of markets, games, and likely general intellect. Could it be a hasty generalization to think that I have little to no knowledge in these* areas in comparison to you?
Nah! That'd just be impossible. Right?
I wasn't posting a facepalm to sidestep anything, rather to emphasize one of my points. You pointing that out doesn't make me any less right.
Just picking nits in regards to your incorrect use of preconceived prejudices...and then your incorrect statement to try to defend your use of it to prove a point.
I have no prejudice against you on any of those points as that is not what I'm arguing about, I am only pointing out that your arguments regarding this individual game are prejudiced....as in not based on any factual information (yes previous sales count as factual information, regardless of what your macro-econ text book tells you). I'm sure you are a smart person, it's just that your passion is misguided and your philosophical arguments are weak at best.
Oh and that isn't impossible, just inconseivable.
kind of funny that the picture is incorrect too
Most of this is alreadycovered by my last post.
Typically when someone resorts to quibbling about how something is said, spelled, etc, rather than what actually is said, that person doesn't want to address the point in the first place.
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
After going through your posts again, the only thing that makes sense is that you are getting ready to sell a NWC cart soon...? If so congrats, you certainly added to th hype train. Maybe all of these people you referenced that have no idea regarding the actual value of the cart, but have been drawn to the auction from advertising will pay you more than you should get for your cart.....send me the crow via priority.
Are you talking to me? If so, and if that's the only thing that makes sense to you, then perhaps you've stopped short of thinking of viable alternatives? I don't own a NWC. And no this isn't some conspiracy to sell one. What's with all the conspiracy-like theories around here anyway?
I do however like a lively conversation; especially regarding topics where popular opinion may not be based in rationality, but in dogma. This is doubly so when it involves markets and macroeconomics, which are among the least understood and most highly debated of all the disciplines that still remain.
The point is that no other "viable alternative" makes sense, but once again, thanks for generalizing. I am really starting to question your intelligence....conspiracy theory? The only conspiracy theory is you trying to justify a beat up NWC selling for almost 100K. And Dogma in this argument....get real.
Your attempt at using macroeconomics and general economic theory to rationalize a sale like this is laughable. Adam Smith is rolling in his grave < see what I did there!?!
Because something doesn't make sense to you says nothing about its viability. If you want to believe I have a NWC and have been trying to jack up the price, then go ahead. Reality hasn't exactly been an impediment to your belief system up until this point anyway.
I didn't say this game was worth $100k or anything near it either. I'm just as surprised as some others may be that it went that high. That's not to say we didn't have a serious bidder who came close to that amount. That's one of the most interesting things to contemplate about this situation.
Please explain what point that you are trying to make or what detail about the auction of this game doesn't make sense to me? So I'm the one that hasn't been using reality in my arguments, as you try to use philosophical macro economics to justify an unreal (sorry conspiracy theory to you) sale of this cart....cute. You certainly have a knack for dodging items that people point out to you, while creatively dissecting others posts.
Well first off you said that the only opinion on this cart which is based on prejudice in this entire thread was mine. You also said my opinion 'wasn't based on reason or actual experience' when you hardly have a clue about who I am, what I've done, or of my thought processes. Then you said the only thing that makes sense is that I own a NWC and am trying to jack up the price.
These are some examples of you jumping to conclusions. Examples of you believing you've got it figured out, when in reality it's actually an example of you not understanding how to apply or use critical thinking in these areas. No offense intended. Jumping to conclusions rarely leads to the correct ones.
Sorry, I thought that you were bright enough to pick up on the fact that I was joking about you owning one. Clearly that isn't the case. At any rate, that is a common tactic here for some folks.
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
What part of what you wrote do you believe applies to what you responded to? And yes I'm aware of your likely inclination to say all of it. So if you'd like to critique what you quoted, then go ahead and do so. Anyone can throw around red herrings and ad hominems without proving a single thing. ORLY?
If all points of contention were realistically settled on the declaration of "I'm right and you're wrong", then what's the use of proof?
Well, the from the post I directly quoted, see above in red. Nice try to use ad hominem to distract from my overall point though, the FACT is that you have used nothing but prejudice to justify these crazy prices on the auction throughout a large number of posts. Let's see this proof that you claim to need to back up your arguments? My proof on the value of this cart is based on many actual data points, not speculation.
And "inclination to say all of it"? Nice generalization....try again.
I will often say things that may seem redundant to some in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat.
I thought I had already mentioned that everyone's opinions are based in prejudices, but that might have been when my computer froze up and had to be rebooted. If so, then I'll say it again. Everyone is basing their opinion on this in prejudices. If that weren't the case, then we'd be witnessing those with god-like all encompassing knowledge.
The most fundamental fact regarding this thread is that most of it is based entirely in speculation. The speculation of price. The speculation of fraud. The speculation of conspiracy, etc.
You don't have any proof of the value of this cart. You don't have any more proof of the seriousness of these bidders than I do. At least that you've shown. You have proof of previous sales, not upcoming ones. I would imagine most here do who actually care about and follow these things.
Sorry, your phrase "may seem redundant" is incorrect, what you said earlier certainly was redundant.
Also, do you understand the definition of the word prejudice? If so, you would see that most of the opinions in this thread on the value of the cart aren't prejudiced, rather they are based on reason and actual experience.
The last paragraph...well just
You do understand that I can post pictures of facepalms in order to sidestep points too, right? Everything would be so much more simple of pictures of facepalms, or saying "No, I'm right and you're wrong" resolved anything.
Now let's take a look at this hypothetical:
"I will often say things that are redundant in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat."
Would the point have changed whatsoever?
And yes I do indeed understand the word prejudice. I also understand that you're quite prejudiced against me. Especially my knowledge of markets, games, and likely general intellect. Could it be a hasty generalization to think that I have little to no knowledge in these* areas in comparison to you?
Nah! That'd just be impossible. Right?
I wasn't posting a facepalm to sidestep anything, rather to emphasize one of my points. You pointing that out doesn't make me any less right.
Just picking nits in regards to your incorrect use of preconceived prejudices...and then your incorrect statement to try to defend your use of it to prove a point.
I have no prejudice against you on any of those points as that is not what I'm arguing about, I am only pointing out that your arguments regarding this individual game are prejudiced....as in not based on any factual information (yes previous sales count as factual information, regardless of what your macro-econ text book tells you). I'm sure you are a smart person, it's just that your passion is misguided and your philosophical arguments are weak at best.
Oh and that isn't impossible, just inconseivable.
kind of funny that the picture is incorrect too
Most of this is alreadycovered by my last post.
Typically when someone resorts to quibbling about how something is said, spelled, etc, rather than what actually is said, that person doesn't want to address the point in the first place.
That jumps to quite the conclusion there, that there was some rational point that I was responding to?
Revel8, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
I personally never accept 2nd chance offers and I think most collectors do the same. If I was really the highest bid of the legit bidders, I'll wait for you to auction it again and take my chances at getting it cheaper.
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You're not even worth it I make the effort to transcribe my thoughts in English. ,
Just a discusiion is established on points that are made by others, and not deducted by your unhealthy habit to eradicate general conclusions that support people in their speech .
My logic and my arguentation ? Are you kidding me? Who is the pedant balance economic théroies on such a specific question that the value of a video game? Sorry , but the economic context surrounding this game, specifically, is known to people to whom you answer . Rather it is the way you present your assumptions and your conclusions are laughable , because basically , you do not know what you mean exactly . This is not a general problem , but a specific problem. All your arguments tell us that you're not aware of the specific situation. Basically, your a beginner, that's your problem, no matter the two three conceptual foundations on which
I feel real bad for muresan but i would bet my best looking mario/duckhunt cart he wont get paid anywhere close to 100k for this out of this auction
Originally posted by: guillavoie
Ma logique et mon arguentation? Est-ce que tu veux rire de moi? Qui est le pédant qui balance des théroies économiques sur une question aussi spécifique que la valeur d'un jeu vidéo? Désolé, mais le contexte économique qui entoure ce jeu, précisément, est connu des gens auxquels tu réponds. C'est plutôt la façon dont tu présentes tes hypothèses et tes conclusions qui sont risibles, parce qu'au fond, tu ne sais pas de quoi tu parles exactement.
+100
(thank you high school french class)
Originally posted by: BilltownSparty
Its real simple to me, anyone who would shell out 25k or more for this condition of cart would have the resources to get one in better shape and not on ebay
I feel real bad for muresan but i would bet my best looking mario/duckhunt cart he wont get paid anywhere close to 100k for this out of this auction
Yeah, apparently a two year old placed the winning bid. Muresan gained nothing yet presumably he is now out $250 for the listing fees. I propose we track down this "bubblemansjunk" guy and make an example out of him. Vigilantee e-justice at it's finest!
Originally posted by: stardust4ever
My logic and my verbiage ? Are you kidding me? Who is the pedantic one imposing macroeconomic theories on such a specific question as the value of a particular video game? Sorry , but the economic context surrounding this game, specifically, is known to people on this thread. Rather it is the way you present your assumptions and your conclusions are laughable , because basically , you do not know what you are talking about. This is not a macroeconomic question but a specific question. All your arguments indicate to us that you're not aware of the specific situation here....
If I may take a hack at it. And only a hack with no real clue, I'd say it was more like this ^
And only because trying to trying french is a lot more fun than the sorry direction this is going
Originally posted by: BilltownSparty
Its real simple to me, anyone who would shell out 25k or more for this condition of cart would have the resources to get one in better shape and not on ebay
I feel real bad for muresan but i would bet my best looking mario/duckhunt cart he wont get paid anywhere close to 100k for this out of this auction
Yeah, apparently a two year old placed the winning bid. Muresan gained nothing yet presumably he is now out $250 for the listing fees. I propose we track down this "bubblemansjunk" guy and make an example out of him. Vigilantee e-justice at it's finest!
Haha agreed! Holy crap i have never sold anything on ebay but dont they take 10% or something? It just dawned on me will they take 10k and make muresan go through a long claims process to get i back or do you think ebay will have common since to verify he got paid before taking the fee just curious how this works?
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: guillavoie
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: Tulpa
Originally posted by: Revel8
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
What part of what you wrote do you believe applies to what you responded to? And yes I'm aware of your likely inclination to say all of it. So if you'd like to critique what you quoted, then go ahead and do so. Anyone can throw around red herrings and ad hominems without proving a single thing. ORLY?
If all points of contention were realistically settled on the declaration of "I'm right and you're wrong", then what's the use of proof?
Well, the from the post I directly quoted, see above in red. Nice try to use ad hominem to distract from my overall point though, the FACT is that you have used nothing but prejudice to justify these crazy prices on the auction throughout a large number of posts. Let's see this proof that you claim to need to back up your arguments? My proof on the value of this cart is based on many actual data points, not speculation.
And "inclination to say all of it"? Nice generalization....try again.
I will often say things that may seem redundant to some in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat.
I thought I had already mentioned that everyone's opinions are based in prejudices, but that might have been when my computer froze up and had to be rebooted. If so, then I'll say it again. Everyone is basing their opinion on this in prejudices. If that weren't the case, then we'd be witnessing those with god-like all encompassing knowledge.
The most fundamental fact regarding this thread is that most of it is based entirely in speculation. The speculation of price. The speculation of fraud. The speculation of conspiracy, etc.
You don't have any proof of the value of this cart. You don't have any more proof of the seriousness of these bidders than I do. At least that you've shown. You have proof of previous sales, not upcoming ones. I would imagine most here do who actually care about and follow these things.
Originally posted by: Stevesesy
What's a MalcolmXY?
Probably another conspiracy theory.
Originally posted by: BilltownSparty
Originally posted by: stardust4ever
Originally posted by: BilltownSparty
Its real simple to me, anyone who would shell out 25k or more for this condition of cart would have the resources to get one in better shape and not on ebay
I feel real bad for muresan but i would bet my best looking mario/duckhunt cart he wont get paid anywhere close to 100k for this out of this auction
Yeah, apparently a two year old placed the winning bid. Muresan gained nothing yet presumably he is now out $250 for the listing fees. I propose we track down this "bubblemansjunk" guy and make an example out of him. Vigilantee e-justice at it's finest!
Haha agreed! Holy crap i have never sold anything on ebay but dont they take 10% or something? It just dawned on me will they take 10k and make muresan go through a long claims process to get i back or do you think ebay will have common since to verify he got paid before taking the fee just curious how this works?
It's capped at $250.
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: guillavoie
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: Tulpa
Originally posted by: Revel8
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
What part of what you wrote do you believe applies to what you responded to? And yes I'm aware of your likely inclination to say all of it. So if you'd like to critique what you quoted, then go ahead and do so. Anyone can throw around red herrings and ad hominems without proving a single thing. ORLY?
If all points of contention were realistically settled on the declaration of "I'm right and you're wrong", then what's the use of proof?
Well, the from the post I directly quoted, see above in red. Nice try to use ad hominem to distract from my overall point though, the FACT is that you have used nothing but prejudice to justify these crazy prices on the auction throughout a large number of posts. Let's see this proof that you claim to need to back up your arguments? My proof on the value of this cart is based on many actual data points, not speculation.
And "inclination to say all of it"? Nice generalization....try again.
I will often say things that may seem redundant to some in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat.
I thought I had already mentioned that everyone's opinions are based in prejudices, but that might have been when my computer froze up and had to be rebooted. If so, then I'll say it again. Everyone is basing their opinion on this in prejudices. If that weren't the case, then we'd be witnessing those with god-like all encompassing knowledge.
The most fundamental fact regarding this thread is that most of it is based entirely in speculation. The speculation of price. The speculation of fraud. The speculation of conspiracy, etc.
You don't have any proof of the value of this cart. You don't have any more proof of the seriousness of these bidders than I do. At least that you've shown. You have proof of previous sales, not upcoming ones. I would imagine most here do who actually care about and follow these things.
I don't have any proof that you aren't a vegetable.
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: guillavoie
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: Tulpa
Originally posted by: Revel8
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
What part of what you wrote do you believe applies to what you responded to? And yes I'm aware of your likely inclination to say all of it. So if you'd like to critique what you quoted, then go ahead and do so. Anyone can throw around red herrings and ad hominems without proving a single thing. ORLY?
If all points of contention were realistically settled on the declaration of "I'm right and you're wrong", then what's the use of proof?
Well, the from the post I directly quoted, see above in red. Nice try to use ad hominem to distract from my overall point though, the FACT is that you have used nothing but prejudice to justify these crazy prices on the auction throughout a large number of posts. Let's see this proof that you claim to need to back up your arguments? My proof on the value of this cart is based on many actual data points, not speculation.
And "inclination to say all of it"? Nice generalization....try again.
I will often say things that may seem redundant to some in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat.
I thought I had already mentioned that everyone's opinions are based in prejudices, but that might have been when my computer froze up and had to be rebooted. If so, then I'll say it again. Everyone is basing their opinion on this in prejudices. If that weren't the case, then we'd be witnessing those with god-like all encompassing knowledge.
The most fundamental fact regarding this thread is that most of it is based entirely in speculation. The speculation of price. The speculation of fraud. The speculation of conspiracy, etc.
You don't have any proof of the value of this cart. You don't have any more proof of the seriousness of these bidders than I do. At least that you've shown. You have proof of previous sales, not upcoming ones. I would imagine most here do who actually care about and follow these things.
Sorry, your phrase "may seem redundant" is incorrect, what you said earlier certainly was redundant.
Also, do you understand the definition of the word prejudice? If so, you would see that most of the opinions in this thread on the value of the cart aren't prejudiced, rather they are based on reason and actual experience.
The last paragraph...well just
Originally posted by: Bronty
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: guillavoie
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: Tulpa
Originally posted by: Revel8
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
What part of what you wrote do you believe applies to what you responded to? And yes I'm aware of your likely inclination to say all of it. So if you'd like to critique what you quoted, then go ahead and do so. Anyone can throw around red herrings and ad hominems without proving a single thing. ORLY?
If all points of contention were realistically settled on the declaration of "I'm right and you're wrong", then what's the use of proof?
Well, the from the post I directly quoted, see above in red. Nice try to use ad hominem to distract from my overall point though, the FACT is that you have used nothing but prejudice to justify these crazy prices on the auction throughout a large number of posts. Let's see this proof that you claim to need to back up your arguments? My proof on the value of this cart is based on many actual data points, not speculation.
And "inclination to say all of it"? Nice generalization....try again.
I will often say things that may seem redundant to some in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat.
I thought I had already mentioned that everyone's opinions are based in prejudices, but that might have been when my computer froze up and had to be rebooted. If so, then I'll say it again. Everyone is basing their opinion on this in prejudices. If that weren't the case, then we'd be witnessing those with god-like all encompassing knowledge.
The most fundamental fact regarding this thread is that most of it is based entirely in speculation. The speculation of price. The speculation of fraud. The speculation of conspiracy, etc.
You don't have any proof of the value of this cart. You don't have any more proof of the seriousness of these bidders than I do. At least that you've shown. You have proof of previous sales, not upcoming ones. I would imagine most here do who actually care about and follow these things.
I don't have any proof that you aren't a vegetable.
Ok, this made me LOL....and on that note I am heading to bed. Goodnight moon.
Originally posted by: Bronty
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: guillavoie
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: Tulpa
Originally posted by: Revel8
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
What part of what you wrote do you believe applies to what you responded to? And yes I'm aware of your likely inclination to say all of it. So if you'd like to critique what you quoted, then go ahead and do so. Anyone can throw around red herrings and ad hominems without proving a single thing. ORLY?
If all points of contention were realistically settled on the declaration of "I'm right and you're wrong", then what's the use of proof?
Well, the from the post I directly quoted, see above in red. Nice try to use ad hominem to distract from my overall point though, the FACT is that you have used nothing but prejudice to justify these crazy prices on the auction throughout a large number of posts. Let's see this proof that you claim to need to back up your arguments? My proof on the value of this cart is based on many actual data points, not speculation.
And "inclination to say all of it"? Nice generalization....try again.
I will often say things that may seem redundant to some in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat.
I thought I had already mentioned that everyone's opinions are based in prejudices, but that might have been when my computer froze up and had to be rebooted. If so, then I'll say it again. Everyone is basing their opinion on this in prejudices. If that weren't the case, then we'd be witnessing those with god-like all encompassing knowledge.
The most fundamental fact regarding this thread is that most of it is based entirely in speculation. The speculation of price. The speculation of fraud. The speculation of conspiracy, etc.
You don't have any proof of the value of this cart. You don't have any more proof of the seriousness of these bidders than I do. At least that you've shown. You have proof of previous sales, not upcoming ones. I would imagine most here do who actually care about and follow these things.
I don't have any proof that you aren't a vegetable.
I don't have any proof that anything posted on the Internet is real.
Cyberspace is a lot like a cow pasture: Lots of bullsh¡t piles everywhere!
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: guillavoie
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: Tulpa
Originally posted by: Revel8
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
After going through your posts again, the only thing that makes sense is that you are getting ready to sell a NWC cart soon...? If so congrats, you certainly added to th hype train. Maybe all of these people you referenced that have no idea regarding the actual value of the cart, but have been drawn to the auction from advertising will pay you more than you should get for your cart.....send me the crow via priority.
Are you talking to me? If so, and if that's the only thing that makes sense to you, then perhaps you've stopped short of thinking of viable alternatives? I don't own a NWC. And no this isn't some conspiracy to sell one. What's with all the conspiracy-like theories around here anyway?
I do however like a lively conversation; especially regarding topics where popular opinion may not be based in rationality, but in dogma. This is doubly so when it involves markets and macroeconomics, which are among the least understood and most highly debated of all the disciplines that still remain.
The point is that no other "viable alternative" makes sense, but once again, thanks for generalizing. I am really starting to question your intelligence....conspiracy theory? The only conspiracy theory is you trying to justify a beat up NWC selling for almost 100K. And Dogma in this argument....get real.
Your attempt at using macroeconomics and general economic theory to rationalize a sale like this is laughable. Adam Smith is rolling in his grave < see what I did there!?!
Because something doesn't make sense to you says nothing about its viability. If you want to believe I have a NWC and have been trying to jack up the price, then go ahead. Reality hasn't exactly been an impediment to your belief system up until this point anyway.
I didn't say this game was worth $100k or anything near it either. I'm just as surprised as some others may be that it went that high. That's not to say we didn't have a serious bidder who came close to that amount. That's one of the most interesting things to contemplate about this situation.
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: guillavoie
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: Tulpa
Originally posted by: Revel8
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
After going through your posts again, the only thing that makes sense is that you are getting ready to sell a NWC cart soon...? If so congrats, you certainly added to th hype train. Maybe all of these people you referenced that have no idea regarding the actual value of the cart, but have been drawn to the auction from advertising will pay you more than you should get for your cart.....send me the crow via priority.
Are you talking to me? If so, and if that's the only thing that makes sense to you, then perhaps you've stopped short of thinking of viable alternatives? I don't own a NWC. And no this isn't some conspiracy to sell one. What's with all the conspiracy-like theories around here anyway?
I do however like a lively conversation; especially regarding topics where popular opinion may not be based in rationality, but in dogma. This is doubly so when it involves markets and macroeconomics, which are among the least understood and most highly debated of all the disciplines that still remain.
The point is that no other "viable alternative" makes sense, but once again, thanks for generalizing. I am really starting to question your intelligence....conspiracy theory? The only conspiracy theory is you trying to justify a beat up NWC selling for almost 100K. And Dogma in this argument....get real.
Your attempt at using macroeconomics and general economic theory to rationalize a sale like this is laughable. Adam Smith is rolling in his grave < see what I did there!?!
Because something doesn't make sense to you says nothing about its viability. If you want to believe I have a NWC and have been trying to jack up the price, then go ahead. Reality hasn't exactly been an impediment to your belief system up until this point anyway.
I didn't say this game was worth $100k or anything near it either. I'm just as surprised as some others may be that it went that high. That's not to say we didn't have a serious bidder who came close to that amount. That's one of the most interesting things to contemplate about this situation.
Please explain what point that you are trying to make or what detail about the auction of this game doesn't make sense to me? So I'm the one that hasn't been using reality in my arguments, as you try to use philosophical macro economics to justify an unreal (sorry conspiracy theory to you) sale of this cart....cute. You certainly have a knack for dodging items that people point out to you, while creatively dissecting others posts.
Originally posted by: guillavoie
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: guillavoie
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: guillavoie
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: Tulpa
Originally posted by: Revel8
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
Wow, why are you so condescending? What's your point about out flat questionning my integrity, over-interpreting my views, picking me on about the use of short-cut words? We're all in the expectative about the situation. You're the one twisting around the context like you're the only one around understanding what's going on. You've outtalked guys that are interested in the specific subject at hand just like you were the no.1 ressource about it all of a sudden.
Nobody claims to know the absolute truth about this bidding, but we're all wise enough to sit on this and see how the situation unfolds. You're stirring up something that might not even worth it, you're the one coming up with a $25k+ expectations that might just be wrong.
Lively conversation is typically replete with points and counterpoints. Is it not? That doesn't have anything to do with your integrity in my mind. I'm not questioning your integrity, but rather your logic and verbiage. Care to address my points regarding it rather than sidestep them?
Tu ne vaux même pas la peine que je fasse l'effort de transcrire mes pensées en anglais.,
Justement, une discusiion s'instaure sur des points qui sont apportés par les autres, et non déduits par ta maladive habitude à extirper des conclusions générales à ce que les gens soutiennent dans leur discours.
Ma logique et mon arguentation? Est-ce que tu veux rire de moi? Qui est le pédant qui balance des théroies économiques sur une question aussi spécifique que la valeur d'un jeu vidéo? Désolé, mais le contexte économique qui entoure ce jeu, précisément, est connu des gens auxquels tu réponds. C'est plutôt la façon dont tu présentes tes hypothèses et tes conclusions qui sont risibles, parce qu'au fond, tu ne sais pas de quoi tu parles exactement. Ce n'est pas un problème général, mais un problème spécifique. Tous tes arguments nous indiquent que tu n'es pas conscient de la situation spécifique. Dans le fond, tes un débutant, c'est ça ton problème, peu importe les deux trois fondations conceptuelles sur lesquelles tu bases ton argument dépassé, t'es un débutant, et tu passes à côté du point.
Maintenant, fais nous plaisir, prend une chaise à ta hauteur, et essai de nous parler sur ton approprié.
So apparently the answer is "No, I don't care to address them"? If translated correctly, your argument is based in fallacious logic, specifically argumentum ad populum.
Just because you disagree with something or someone doesn't make it inaccurate. Just because you believe everything is already known doesn't make it so. Just because you think I don't know what I'm saying doesn't make it so. Just because a majority believe something doesn't make it so.
'It is not worth an intelligent man's time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.'
- GH Hardy
Nearly all, if not all, advanced thought is rejected at first. That's why warnings of the housing crash, stock market crash, and dollar's crash comparative to commodities like gold and silver went unheeded to around 98% of those I gave them to. I understand how difficult it is for most to distinguish between outright stupidity from foresight. So is the story of the evolution of all science.
Originally posted by: Bronty
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: guillavoie
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: Tulpa
Originally posted by: Revel8
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
What part of what you wrote do you believe applies to what you responded to? And yes I'm aware of your likely inclination to say all of it. So if you'd like to critique what you quoted, then go ahead and do so. Anyone can throw around red herrings and ad hominems without proving a single thing. ORLY?
If all points of contention were realistically settled on the declaration of "I'm right and you're wrong", then what's the use of proof?
Well, the from the post I directly quoted, see above in red. Nice try to use ad hominem to distract from my overall point though, the FACT is that you have used nothing but prejudice to justify these crazy prices on the auction throughout a large number of posts. Let's see this proof that you claim to need to back up your arguments? My proof on the value of this cart is based on many actual data points, not speculation.
And "inclination to say all of it"? Nice generalization....try again.
I will often say things that may seem redundant to some in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat.
I thought I had already mentioned that everyone's opinions are based in prejudices, but that might have been when my computer froze up and had to be rebooted. If so, then I'll say it again. Everyone is basing their opinion on this in prejudices. If that weren't the case, then we'd be witnessing those with god-like all encompassing knowledge.
The most fundamental fact regarding this thread is that most of it is based entirely in speculation. The speculation of price. The speculation of fraud. The speculation of conspiracy, etc.
You don't have any proof of the value of this cart. You don't have any more proof of the seriousness of these bidders than I do. At least that you've shown. You have proof of previous sales, not upcoming ones. I would imagine most here do who actually care about and follow these things.
I don't have any proof that you aren't a vegetable.
Indeed you don't.
Originally posted by: Dochrohan
Somebody just quote me w/ a reply to my question of did the cart get paid. I'm not going to read this thread anymore, it looks like a pile of dog puke. The thread should say it was paid or not paid then get closed already.
The top bidder backed out with a lame excuse ("My 2 year old accidentally bid on it!")
No word on the other bidders.
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: guillavoie
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: Tulpa
Originally posted by: Revel8
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
What part of what you wrote do you believe applies to what you responded to? And yes I'm aware of your likely inclination to say all of it. So if you'd like to critique what you quoted, then go ahead and do so. Anyone can throw around red herrings and ad hominems without proving a single thing. ORLY?
If all points of contention were realistically settled on the declaration of "I'm right and you're wrong", then what's the use of proof?
Well, the from the post I directly quoted, see above in red. Nice try to use ad hominem to distract from my overall point though, the FACT is that you have used nothing but prejudice to justify these crazy prices on the auction throughout a large number of posts. Let's see this proof that you claim to need to back up your arguments? My proof on the value of this cart is based on many actual data points, not speculation.
And "inclination to say all of it"? Nice generalization....try again.
I will often say things that may seem redundant to some in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat.
I thought I had already mentioned that everyone's opinions are based in prejudices, but that might have been when my computer froze up and had to be rebooted. If so, then I'll say it again. Everyone is basing their opinion on this in prejudices. If that weren't the case, then we'd be witnessing those with god-like all encompassing knowledge.
The most fundamental fact regarding this thread is that most of it is based entirely in speculation. The speculation of price. The speculation of fraud. The speculation of conspiracy, etc.
You don't have any proof of the value of this cart. You don't have any more proof of the seriousness of these bidders than I do. At least that you've shown. You have proof of previous sales, not upcoming ones. I would imagine most here do who actually care about and follow these things.
Sorry, your phrase "may seem redundant" is incorrect, what you said earlier certainly was redundant.
Also, do you understand the definition of the word prejudice? If so, you would see that most of the opinions in this thread on the value of the cart aren't prejudiced, rather they are based on reason and actual experience.
The last paragraph...well just
You do understand that I can post pictures of facepalms in order to sidestep points too, right? Everything would be so much more simple of pictures of facepalms, or saying "No, I'm right and you're wrong" resolved anything.
Now let's take a look at this hypothetical:
"I will often say things that are redundant in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat."
Would the point have changed whatsoever?
And yes I do indeed understand the word prejudice. I also understand that you're quite prejudiced against me. Especially my knowledge of markets, games, and likely general intellect. Could it be a hasty generalization to think that I have little to no knowledge in these* areas in comparison to you?
Nah! That'd just be impossible. Right?
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: guillavoie
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: Tulpa
Originally posted by: Revel8
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
What part of what you wrote do you believe applies to what you responded to? And yes I'm aware of your likely inclination to say all of it. So if you'd like to critique what you quoted, then go ahead and do so. Anyone can throw around red herrings and ad hominems without proving a single thing. ORLY?
If all points of contention were realistically settled on the declaration of "I'm right and you're wrong", then what's the use of proof?
Well, the from the post I directly quoted, see above in red. Nice try to use ad hominem to distract from my overall point though, the FACT is that you have used nothing but prejudice to justify these crazy prices on the auction throughout a large number of posts. Let's see this proof that you claim to need to back up your arguments? My proof on the value of this cart is based on many actual data points, not speculation.
And "inclination to say all of it"? Nice generalization....try again.
I will often say things that may seem redundant to some in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat.
I thought I had already mentioned that everyone's opinions are based in prejudices, but that might have been when my computer froze up and had to be rebooted. If so, then I'll say it again. Everyone is basing their opinion on this in prejudices. If that weren't the case, then we'd be witnessing those with god-like all encompassing knowledge.
The most fundamental fact regarding this thread is that most of it is based entirely in speculation. The speculation of price. The speculation of fraud. The speculation of conspiracy, etc.
You don't have any proof of the value of this cart. You don't have any more proof of the seriousness of these bidders than I do. At least that you've shown. You have proof of previous sales, not upcoming ones. I would imagine most here do who actually care about and follow these things.
Sorry, your phrase "may seem redundant" is incorrect, what you said earlier certainly was redundant.
Also, do you understand the definition of the word prejudice? If so, you would see that most of the opinions in this thread on the value of the cart aren't prejudiced, rather they are based on reason and actual experience.
The last paragraph...well just
You do understand that I can post pictures of facepalms in order to sidestep points too, right? Everything would be so much more simple of pictures of facepalms, or saying "No, I'm right and you're wrong" resolved anything.
Now let's take a look at this hypothetical:
"I will often say things that are redundant in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat."
Would the point have changed whatsoever?
And yes I do indeed understand the word prejudice. I also understand that you're quite prejudiced against me. Especially my knowledge of markets, games, and likely general intellect. Could it be a hasty generalization to think that I have little to no knowledge in these* areas in comparison to you?
Nah! That'd just be impossible. Right?
I wasn't posting a facepalm to sidestep anything, rather to emphasize one of my points. You pointing that out doesn't make me any less right.
Just picking nits in regards to your incorrect use of preconceived prejudices...and then your incorrect statement to try to defend your use of it to prove a point.
I have no prejudice against you on any of those points as that is not what I'm arguing about, I am only pointing out that your arguments regarding this individual game are prejudiced....as in not based on any factual information (yes previous sales count as factual information, regardless of what your macro-econ text book tells you). I'm sure you are a smart person, it's just that your passion is misguided and your philosophical arguments are weak at best.
Oh and that isn't impossible, just inconseivable.
kind of funny that the picture is incorrect too
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: guillavoie
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: Tulpa
Originally posted by: Revel8
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
After going through your posts again, the only thing that makes sense is that you are getting ready to sell a NWC cart soon...? If so congrats, you certainly added to th hype train. Maybe all of these people you referenced that have no idea regarding the actual value of the cart, but have been drawn to the auction from advertising will pay you more than you should get for your cart.....send me the crow via priority.
Are you talking to me? If so, and if that's the only thing that makes sense to you, then perhaps you've stopped short of thinking of viable alternatives? I don't own a NWC. And no this isn't some conspiracy to sell one. What's with all the conspiracy-like theories around here anyway?
I do however like a lively conversation; especially regarding topics where popular opinion may not be based in rationality, but in dogma. This is doubly so when it involves markets and macroeconomics, which are among the least understood and most highly debated of all the disciplines that still remain.
The point is that no other "viable alternative" makes sense, but once again, thanks for generalizing. I am really starting to question your intelligence....conspiracy theory? The only conspiracy theory is you trying to justify a beat up NWC selling for almost 100K. And Dogma in this argument....get real.
Your attempt at using macroeconomics and general economic theory to rationalize a sale like this is laughable. Adam Smith is rolling in his grave < see what I did there!?!
Because something doesn't make sense to you says nothing about its viability. If you want to believe I have a NWC and have been trying to jack up the price, then go ahead. Reality hasn't exactly been an impediment to your belief system up until this point anyway.
I didn't say this game was worth $100k or anything near it either. I'm just as surprised as some others may be that it went that high. That's not to say we didn't have a serious bidder who came close to that amount. That's one of the most interesting things to contemplate about this situation.
Please explain what point that you are trying to make or what detail about the auction of this game doesn't make sense to me? So I'm the one that hasn't been using reality in my arguments, as you try to use philosophical macro economics to justify an unreal (sorry conspiracy theory to you) sale of this cart....cute. You certainly have a knack for dodging items that people point out to you, while creatively dissecting others posts.
Well first off you said that the only opinion on this cart which is based on prejudice in this entire thread was mine. You also said my opinion 'wasn't based on reason or actual experience' when you hardly have a clue about who I am, what I've done, or of my thought processes. Then you said the only thing that makes sense is that I own a NWC and am trying to jack up the price.
These are some examples of you jumping to conclusions. Examples of you believing you've got it figured out, when in reality it's actually an example of you not understanding how to apply or use critical thinking in these areas. No offense intended. Jumping to conclusions rarely leads to the correct ones.
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: guillavoie
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: Tulpa
Originally posted by: Revel8
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
What part of what you wrote do you believe applies to what you responded to? And yes I'm aware of your likely inclination to say all of it. So if you'd like to critique what you quoted, then go ahead and do so. Anyone can throw around red herrings and ad hominems without proving a single thing. ORLY?
If all points of contention were realistically settled on the declaration of "I'm right and you're wrong", then what's the use of proof?
Well, the from the post I directly quoted, see above in red. Nice try to use ad hominem to distract from my overall point though, the FACT is that you have used nothing but prejudice to justify these crazy prices on the auction throughout a large number of posts. Let's see this proof that you claim to need to back up your arguments? My proof on the value of this cart is based on many actual data points, not speculation.
And "inclination to say all of it"? Nice generalization....try again.
I will often say things that may seem redundant to some in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat.
I thought I had already mentioned that everyone's opinions are based in prejudices, but that might have been when my computer froze up and had to be rebooted. If so, then I'll say it again. Everyone is basing their opinion on this in prejudices. If that weren't the case, then we'd be witnessing those with god-like all encompassing knowledge.
The most fundamental fact regarding this thread is that most of it is based entirely in speculation. The speculation of price. The speculation of fraud. The speculation of conspiracy, etc.
You don't have any proof of the value of this cart. You don't have any more proof of the seriousness of these bidders than I do. At least that you've shown. You have proof of previous sales, not upcoming ones. I would imagine most here do who actually care about and follow these things.
Sorry, your phrase "may seem redundant" is incorrect, what you said earlier certainly was redundant.
Also, do you understand the definition of the word prejudice? If so, you would see that most of the opinions in this thread on the value of the cart aren't prejudiced, rather they are based on reason and actual experience.
The last paragraph...well just
You do understand that I can post pictures of facepalms in order to sidestep points too, right? Everything would be so much more simple of pictures of facepalms, or saying "No, I'm right and you're wrong" resolved anything.
Now let's take a look at this hypothetical:
"I will often say things that are redundant in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat."
Would the point have changed whatsoever?
And yes I do indeed understand the word prejudice. I also understand that you're quite prejudiced against me. Especially my knowledge of markets, games, and likely general intellect. Could it be a hasty generalization to think that I have little to no knowledge in these* areas in comparison to you?
Nah! That'd just be impossible. Right?
I wasn't posting a facepalm to sidestep anything, rather to emphasize one of my points. You pointing that out doesn't make me any less right.
Just picking nits in regards to your incorrect use of preconceived prejudices...and then your incorrect statement to try to defend your use of it to prove a point.
I have no prejudice against you on any of those points as that is not what I'm arguing about, I am only pointing out that your arguments regarding this individual game are prejudiced....as in not based on any factual information (yes previous sales count as factual information, regardless of what your macro-econ text book tells you). I'm sure you are a smart person, it's just that your passion is misguided and your philosophical arguments are weak at best.
Oh and that isn't impossible, just inconseivable.
kind of funny that the picture is incorrect too
Most of this is alreadycovered by my last post.
Typically when someone resorts to quibbling about how something is said, spelled, etc, rather than what actually is said, that person doesn't want to address the point in the first place.
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: guillavoie
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: Tulpa
Originally posted by: Revel8
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
After going through your posts again, the only thing that makes sense is that you are getting ready to sell a NWC cart soon...? If so congrats, you certainly added to th hype train. Maybe all of these people you referenced that have no idea regarding the actual value of the cart, but have been drawn to the auction from advertising will pay you more than you should get for your cart.....send me the crow via priority.
Are you talking to me? If so, and if that's the only thing that makes sense to you, then perhaps you've stopped short of thinking of viable alternatives? I don't own a NWC. And no this isn't some conspiracy to sell one. What's with all the conspiracy-like theories around here anyway?
I do however like a lively conversation; especially regarding topics where popular opinion may not be based in rationality, but in dogma. This is doubly so when it involves markets and macroeconomics, which are among the least understood and most highly debated of all the disciplines that still remain.
The point is that no other "viable alternative" makes sense, but once again, thanks for generalizing. I am really starting to question your intelligence....conspiracy theory? The only conspiracy theory is you trying to justify a beat up NWC selling for almost 100K. And Dogma in this argument....get real.
Your attempt at using macroeconomics and general economic theory to rationalize a sale like this is laughable. Adam Smith is rolling in his grave < see what I did there!?!
Because something doesn't make sense to you says nothing about its viability. If you want to believe I have a NWC and have been trying to jack up the price, then go ahead. Reality hasn't exactly been an impediment to your belief system up until this point anyway.
I didn't say this game was worth $100k or anything near it either. I'm just as surprised as some others may be that it went that high. That's not to say we didn't have a serious bidder who came close to that amount. That's one of the most interesting things to contemplate about this situation.
Please explain what point that you are trying to make or what detail about the auction of this game doesn't make sense to me? So I'm the one that hasn't been using reality in my arguments, as you try to use philosophical macro economics to justify an unreal (sorry conspiracy theory to you) sale of this cart....cute. You certainly have a knack for dodging items that people point out to you, while creatively dissecting others posts.
Well first off you said that the only opinion on this cart which is based on prejudice in this entire thread was mine. You also said my opinion 'wasn't based on reason or actual experience' when you hardly have a clue about who I am, what I've done, or of my thought processes. Then you said the only thing that makes sense is that I own a NWC and am trying to jack up the price.
These are some examples of you jumping to conclusions. Examples of you believing you've got it figured out, when in reality it's actually an example of you not understanding how to apply or use critical thinking in these areas. No offense intended. Jumping to conclusions rarely leads to the correct ones.
Sorry, I thought that you were bright enough to pick up on the fact that I was joking about you owning one. Clearly that isn't the case. At any rate, that is a common tactic here for some folks.
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: doner24
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: guillavoie
Originally posted by: Revel8
Originally posted by: Tulpa
Originally posted by: Revel8
Though it would be nice to have actual proof of a large conspiracy perpetrated by dozens of different accounts and/or people. As with all conspiracy theories, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No need for a conspiracy. Two words: mob mentality.
Agreed and exactly. Conspiracy isn't as likely as market fundamentals taking hold.
But does the fact that these bidders are all fakes need to be justified by a conspiracy? They could all be independant to each other and the auction would be the same. In fact, the excessive coverture of this auction is most probably what triggered this mass amount of joke bids. There are far more chances such advertising would bring fake bidders than new potential buyers. Let's not forget that the price a NWC sells for is commonly laughable to individuals that have no interest in old Nintendo games.
So now it's a "fact" that these bidders are all fakes? I'm sure you've got incontrovertible proof of this where others don't, correct?
Advertising typically brings people from all walks of life. Not just those people who conform to your preconceived prejudices. If what was posted regarding the numbers of views was accurate, then there were upwards of 200,000 views of this auction alone. In all likelihood, it largely brought those who were interested in video games and/or NES games.
Not to mention the fact that the price of artwork is commonly laughable to individuals who have no interest in art. Yet the worldwide debasement of currencies have driven the price of rare artwork through the roof as wealthy investors seek safe havens and investment potential. So it'd be nice to your incontrovertible proof that this isn't the case and that they're all frauds.
First off, preconceived prejudices is redundant. Next, your opinion on the value of this cart is the only one based on prejudice, i.e. a preconceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience....unlike most of the others that have opined in this thread.
Go ahead and throw some BS philosophical economic THEORY to try to prove your point....you're still wrong.
What part of what you wrote do you believe applies to what you responded to? And yes I'm aware of your likely inclination to say all of it. So if you'd like to critique what you quoted, then go ahead and do so. Anyone can throw around red herrings and ad hominems without proving a single thing. ORLY?
If all points of contention were realistically settled on the declaration of "I'm right and you're wrong", then what's the use of proof?
Well, the from the post I directly quoted, see above in red. Nice try to use ad hominem to distract from my overall point though, the FACT is that you have used nothing but prejudice to justify these crazy prices on the auction throughout a large number of posts. Let's see this proof that you claim to need to back up your arguments? My proof on the value of this cart is based on many actual data points, not speculation.
And "inclination to say all of it"? Nice generalization....try again.
I will often say things that may seem redundant to some in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat.
I thought I had already mentioned that everyone's opinions are based in prejudices, but that might have been when my computer froze up and had to be rebooted. If so, then I'll say it again. Everyone is basing their opinion on this in prejudices. If that weren't the case, then we'd be witnessing those with god-like all encompassing knowledge.
The most fundamental fact regarding this thread is that most of it is based entirely in speculation. The speculation of price. The speculation of fraud. The speculation of conspiracy, etc.
You don't have any proof of the value of this cart. You don't have any more proof of the seriousness of these bidders than I do. At least that you've shown. You have proof of previous sales, not upcoming ones. I would imagine most here do who actually care about and follow these things.
Sorry, your phrase "may seem redundant" is incorrect, what you said earlier certainly was redundant.
Also, do you understand the definition of the word prejudice? If so, you would see that most of the opinions in this thread on the value of the cart aren't prejudiced, rather they are based on reason and actual experience.
The last paragraph...well just
You do understand that I can post pictures of facepalms in order to sidestep points too, right? Everything would be so much more simple of pictures of facepalms, or saying "No, I'm right and you're wrong" resolved anything.
Now let's take a look at this hypothetical:
"I will often say things that are redundant in order to increase reading comprehension. You apparently have a problem with this and/or think it's important to point out? Whatever floats your boat."
Would the point have changed whatsoever?
And yes I do indeed understand the word prejudice. I also understand that you're quite prejudiced against me. Especially my knowledge of markets, games, and likely general intellect. Could it be a hasty generalization to think that I have little to no knowledge in these* areas in comparison to you?
Nah! That'd just be impossible. Right?
I wasn't posting a facepalm to sidestep anything, rather to emphasize one of my points. You pointing that out doesn't make me any less right.
Just picking nits in regards to your incorrect use of preconceived prejudices...and then your incorrect statement to try to defend your use of it to prove a point.
I have no prejudice against you on any of those points as that is not what I'm arguing about, I am only pointing out that your arguments regarding this individual game are prejudiced....as in not based on any factual information (yes previous sales count as factual information, regardless of what your macro-econ text book tells you). I'm sure you are a smart person, it's just that your passion is misguided and your philosophical arguments are weak at best.
Oh and that isn't impossible, just inconseivable.
kind of funny that the picture is incorrect too
Most of this is alreadycovered by my last post.
Typically when someone resorts to quibbling about how something is said, spelled, etc, rather than what actually is said, that person doesn't want to address the point in the first place.
That jumps to quite the conclusion there, that there was some rational point that I was responding to?
Silly discussions !
In the mean time Muresan his big payday ( $ 99 K ) turned into a loss of $250 .
That should be the focus here.