Yeah they hacked it out of the Wiiware version no doubt. MMC5 repros would be stupid expensive to produce. I've played the "proto" ROM; it's not that good, basically a silent sandbox with no actual missions. Drive around and hit cops/pedestrians. That's about it. Fun for a few minutes but gets boring quick. Just buy the real game on a modern platform if you want to play.
The NES demo may be boring and only one mission (drive from point A to but compare it to everything else on the NES and I'd say it is pretty awesome. I'd love to see someone hack it and add some more missions. I don't think Brian will ever revisit it again.
Yeah they hacked it out of the Wiiware version no doubt. MMC5 repros would be stupid expensive to produce. I've played the "proto" ROM; it's not that good, basically a silent sandbox with no actual missions. Drive around and hit cops/pedestrians. That's about it. Fun for a few minutes but gets boring quick. Just buy the real game on a modern platform if you want to play.
Yeah I have it on 3ds. I really like the feel, I just didn't know if it was available on an NES cart.
Are there any other MMC5 homebrews known to exist?
I do know the 3DS version has been modified to make the sprites larger and toned down difficulty. That's perfect for me but gamers who enjoy "hardcore" NES might pick this up on Wii-Ware or PS3. If you're using Wii-U in Wii compatability mode, make sure you have an older corded Classic controller that plugs into Wiimote, because the wireless Wii-U pro controller will not work with Wii games in Wii mode.
I'd love to see someone hack it and add some more missions. I don't think Brian will ever revisit it again.
This raises a good question; since the ROM has become available online, would hackers get in trouble for modifying it? And the title screen for ROM CR states that it is an "incomplete work in progress", implying that he may still work on it, though highly unlikely given he's been giving cosmetic updates to the PC version.
So much gray area here. Community members are totally against it because it was pirated from a "modern" game without the author's consent. Yet we are peddling tons of hacks and repros of retro games, and it's okay. For instance, repros of RCR (leaked in 2013) are taboo, but "DK Complete Edition" (leaked in 2010) repros are somehow fair game?
So much gray area here. Community members are totally against it because it was pirated from a "modern" game without the author's consent. Yet we are peddling tons of hacks and repros of retro games, and it's okay. For instance, repros of RCR (leaked in 2013) are taboo, but "DK Complete Edition" (leaked in 2010) repros are somehow fair game?
I think "community members" that feel they are defending the author are probably misreading the situation.
He has to "officially" oppose the ROM release due to his contract with Nintendo.
But I don't think it is a leap to imagine that either he doesn't care, or he is secretly happy to see people use it on the real hardware.
Or he might complete the game under a different alias and pretend to be a ROM hacker from Central America, which will be impossible to prove it's actually him. Though the NES build is just the bare bones and lacks everything else from the real game, either due to time constraints or limitations. Also:
@Stardust: There is one more MMC5 homebrew game, Apex by Dr. Floppy. While it is just a title screen with music where you can move the fish around, the music itself is MMC5. It's probably the first homebrew game to use cartridge hardware for audio. I don't know if he's shared the game on NESDev, but I have a copy of the ROM.
^^Lots of people have created "chiptune" music using expansion chips. I have a copy of Brad Smith's MOON8 on cartridge. While that particular compilation does not use extra audio channels, he did also release a compilation of Classical Music using vr6 and other expanion chips. Music carts are all well and good, but just using the mapper for extra "chiptune" sound channels is kind of more like a hardware demo rather than an actual game.
FamiTracker is a wonderful tool. I read a blog from the creator of Retro City Rampage about how he composed most of the sountrack in Famitracker, however there are some drum & bass effects added, as well many of the tunes use tempos based on refresh rates other than 60Hz. So while the soundtrack sounds like it could play back on an NES, it really can't without a rework. That said if anybody is a fan of chiptune mudic, I urge you to download the music, or better yet buy the CD (or the limited edition vinyl - still so mad I missed out on that one, grrr...). RCR soundtrack is freakking awesome!
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Originally posted by: stardust4ever
Yeah they hacked it out of the Wiiware version no doubt. MMC5 repros would be stupid expensive to produce. I've played the "proto" ROM; it's not that good, basically a silent sandbox with no actual missions. Drive around and hit cops/pedestrians. That's about it. Fun for a few minutes but gets boring quick. Just buy the real game on a modern platform if you want to play.
Yeah I have it on 3ds. I really like the feel, I just didn't know if it was available on an NES cart.
I do know the 3DS version has been modified to make the sprites larger and toned down difficulty. That's perfect for me but gamers who enjoy "hardcore" NES might pick this up on Wii-Ware or PS3. If you're using Wii-U in Wii compatability mode, make sure you have an older corded Classic controller that plugs into Wiimote, because the wireless Wii-U pro controller will not work with Wii games in Wii mode.
Originally posted by: WhatULive4
I'd love to see someone hack it and add some more missions. I don't think Brian will ever revisit it again.
This raises a good question; since the ROM has become available online, would hackers get in trouble for modifying it? And the title screen for ROM CR states that it is an "incomplete work in progress", implying that he may still work on it, though highly unlikely given he's been giving cosmetic updates to the PC version.
Originally posted by: stardust4ever
So much gray area here. Community members are totally against it because it was pirated from a "modern" game without the author's consent. Yet we are peddling tons of hacks and repros of retro games, and it's okay. For instance, repros of RCR (leaked in 2013) are taboo, but "DK Complete Edition" (leaked in 2010) repros are somehow fair game?
I think "community members" that feel they are defending the author are probably misreading the situation.
He has to "officially" oppose the ROM release due to his contract with Nintendo.
But I don't think it is a leap to imagine that either he doesn't care, or he is secretly happy to see people use it on the real hardware.
@Stardust: There is one more MMC5 homebrew game, Apex by Dr. Floppy. While it is just a title screen with music where you can move the fish around, the music itself is MMC5. It's probably the first homebrew game to use cartridge hardware for audio. I don't know if he's shared the game on NESDev, but I have a copy of the ROM.