I think Shining Force 3 and Dragonforce are two of the must play rpgs that are on the saturn. Dragonforce is just a really unique style game, absolutely deserves to be in the must play rpg category across all systems.
I'm also really partial to Magic Knight Rayearth. This is a brilliant action rpg, unfortunately it's getting stupidly expensive. Panzer Dragoon Saga would be a must play rpg, it does a really fantastic job of turning an on rails series into an rpg. But it's so bloody expensive. I guess if cost isn't an issue, it's a must play.
We need some Ultima also. UO started the whole MMO craze, but I don't which single player title to nominate.
I think Ultima IV on the NES is probably the best for a casual RPG'er (you don't have to mix reagents for spells).
III has a terrible system of combat & starvation.
V is a bad port to the NES.
IV, V and VI are OK on the PC if you can find a way to run them, but you need to know reagent recipes and hotkeys.
VII was good on the PC, don't know what the SNES version is like.
Savage Empire - don't know, never played it
Martian Dreams- that sure was weird. Utlima on Mars.
VIII is notorious, although I didn't hate it that much.
Underworld is fun on the PC, except that it's bugged without patches.
I was a beta player for UO, and it had a lot of problems, but it was novel for the MMO aspect at the time.
And that's where my knowledge of Ultima ends.
My first Ultima was IV, and honestly it was so archaic I wouldn't wish any of the earlier entries on someone. It's a good history lesson however and you have to respect the series for basically birthing a lot of ideas that made Dragon Quest what it was.
I'm still not sure what Ultimas, if any, are must plays. It seems like many of the later games went to that yucky isometric view that Ultima Online had. If I can say one more thing very favorable about these games, it's that you can often kill the NPCs.
We need some Ultima also. UO started the whole MMO craze, but I don't which single player title to nominate.
I think Ultima IV on the NES is probably the best for a casual RPG'er (you don't have to mix reagents for spells).
III has a terrible system of combat & starvation.
V is a bad port to the NES.
IV, V and VI are OK on the PC if you can find a way to run them, but you need to know reagent recipes and hotkeys.
VII was good on the PC, don't know what the SNES version is like.
Savage Empire - don't know, never played it
Martian Dreams- that sure was weird. Utlima on Mars.
VIII is notorious, although I didn't hate it that much.
Underworld is fun on the PC, except that it's bugged without patches.
I was a beta player for UO, and it had a lot of problems, but it was novel for the MMO aspect at the time.
And that's where my knowledge of Ultima ends.
My first Ultima was IV, and honestly it was so archaic I wouldn't wish any of the earlier entries on someone. It's a good history lesson however and you have to respect the series for basically birthing a lot of ideas that made Dragon Quest what it was.
I'm still not sure what Ultimas, if any, are must plays. It seems like many of the later games went to that yucky isometric view that Ultima Online had. If I can say one more thing very favorable about these games, it's that you can often kill the NPCs.
I agree, I wouldn't really recommend any of them to someone who isn't normally into RPGs.
They all require quite a bit of investment of the player and commitment to that style of gaming.
You can't just start it up and run around and kill stuff.
I would say, "you might not like it, but you should play it".
I only recommend IV on the NES because, like I said, it's the most accessible to a non-RPG fan, and kind of gives them a taste of what Dragon Warrior on steroids is like. It's also the best Ultima IMHO.
We need some Ultima also. UO started the whole MMO craze, but I don't which single player title to nominate.
I think Ultima IV on the NES is probably the best for a casual RPG'er (you don't have to mix reagents for spells).
III has a terrible system of combat & starvation.
V is a bad port to the NES.
IV, V and VI are OK on the PC if you can find a way to run them, but you need to know reagent recipes and hotkeys.
VII was good on the PC, don't know what the SNES version is like.
Savage Empire - don't know, never played it
Martian Dreams- that sure was weird. Utlima on Mars.
VIII is notorious, although I didn't hate it that much.
Underworld is fun on the PC, except that it's bugged without patches.
I was a beta player for UO, and it had a lot of problems, but it was novel for the MMO aspect at the time.
And that's where my knowledge of Ultima ends.
My first Ultima was IV, and honestly it was so archaic I wouldn't wish any of the earlier entries on someone. It's a good history lesson however and you have to respect the series for basically birthing a lot of ideas that made Dragon Quest what it was.
I'm still not sure what Ultimas, if any, are must plays. It seems like many of the later games went to that yucky isometric view that Ultima Online had. If I can say one more thing very favorable about these games, it's that you can often kill the NPCs.
I agree, I wouldn't really recommend any of them to someone who isn't normally into RPGs.
They all require quite a bit of investment of the player and commitment to that style of gaming.
You can't just start it up and run around and kill stuff.
I would say, "you might not like it, but you should play it".
I only recommend IV on the NES because, like I said, it's the most accessible to a non-RPG fan, and kind of gives them a taste of what Dragon Warrior on steroids is like. It's also the best Ultima IMHO.
I actually love Ultima Exodus, don't see what's so terrible about its tactical combat, but yeah Avatar's probably the more accessible game.
Exodus frustrates me because it could have been a great game.
I actually like it, but I hate the food system. I think it ruins the game.
My complaint about the combat is because of the way enemies are tied to your level - if you level up, all the enemies level up (and therefore if you stay low, they also stay low). It's not as big of a deal as the food issue, but I don't think this is a very good system.
You can't even get a ship if you don't level up enough (and steal one from pirates) which caused me lots of frustration as a kid.
Exodus frustrates me because it could have been a great game.
I actually like it, but I hate the food system. I think it ruins the game.
My complaint about the combat is because of the way enemies are tied to your level - if you level up, all the enemies level up (and therefore if you stay low, they also stay low). It's not as big of a deal as the food issue, but I don't think this is a very good system.
You can't even get a ship if you don't level up enough (and steal one from pirates) which caused me lots of frustration as a kid.
Oh yeah, the leveled monsters was crap. Food was annoying, but not game breaking.
Ok finally caught up and we have some great titles! Lots of good talk about certain games and series as well! Lets keep it going! If i have missed any or made any mistakes, let me know!
Castlevania Symphony of the Night is NOT an RPG. It's a platformer with RPG elements. And regardless of that,not being on the "must play" list is an absolute abomination and completely invalidates this list.
Castlevania Symphony of the Night is NOT an RPG. It's a platformer with RPG elements. And regardless of that,not being on the "must play" list is an absolute abomination and completely invalidates this list.
There's a couple of games on here i questioned as well but that's for you guys to decide not me. Anyways Chrono Trigger seems to have the upper hand atm so i will add another title for the single game that gathers the most votes!
Castlevania Symphony of the Night is NOT an RPG. It's a platformer with RPG elements. And regardless of that,not being on the "must play" list is an absolute abomination and completely invalidates this list.
Updated once again. Lets keep the voting up, have a look over the current list and cast more votes to gems you might have missed in your original posts!
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Originally posted by: dr.robbie
Only ones I've played and kept me interested:
tower of radia
If we're counting up nominations this IS the same game as Chronicles of Radia War
I'm also really partial to Magic Knight Rayearth. This is a brilliant action rpg, unfortunately it's getting stupidly expensive. Panzer Dragoon Saga would be a must play rpg, it does a really fantastic job of turning an on rails series into an rpg. But it's so bloody expensive. I guess if cost isn't an issue, it's a must play.
Persona 4
Paper Mario
Earthbound
Bravely Default
Chrono Trigger
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
Dragon Quest/Warrior
Dragon Quest/Warrior II
Dragon Quest Warrior VII
Dragon Quest VIII
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy X
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals
Super Mario RPG
Breath of Fire II
Breath of Fire III
Lunar: The Silver Star
Fallout 3
Earthbound
Earthbound
Final Fantasy
Final fantasy IV
Final fantasy V
Final fantasy VI
Dragon Warrior
Dragon Quest IV
Dragon Quest V
Lufia 2
Sieken densetsu 3
Secret of mana
EVO
Chrono Trigger
Tales of symphonia
Tales of abyss
Nino Kuni
breath of fire 3
Chrono Trigger (x1000 if I could)
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy IV
Secret of Mana
Seiken Densetsu 3 (Secret of Mana 2, if you prefer)
Tales of Phantasia
Star Ocean
EarthBound
NES:
Crystalis
Zelda II
Dragon Warrior I
Genesis:
Shining Force
Phantasy Star IV
GBA:
Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga
Dragon Warriors I-IV
Secret of Mana
Secret of Mana 2
Lunar: SSS Complete
Crystalis
Ultima IV
Might & Magic
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy VI
Lufia 2
Those are the ones I would consider "must plays", although there are a lot more good ones as mentioned above, depending how deep you want to go.
Final Fantasy VI
Final fantasy IV
Earthbound
Secret of Mana
Just off SNES.
Originally posted by: Daria
We need some Ultima also. UO started the whole MMO craze, but I don't which single player title to nominate.
I think Ultima IV on the NES is probably the best for a casual RPG'er (you don't have to mix reagents for spells).
But I'm biased since it's one of my favorite games of all time.
III has a terrible system of combat & starvation.
V is a bad port to the NES.
IV, V and VI are OK on the PC if you can find a way to run them, but you need to know reagent recipes and hotkeys.
VII was good on the PC, don't know what the SNES version is like.
Savage Empire - don't know, never played it
Martian Dreams- that sure was weird. Utlima on Mars.
VIII is notorious, although I didn't hate it that much.
Underworld is fun on the PC, except that it's bugged without patches.
I was a beta player for UO, and it had a lot of problems, but it was novel for the MMO aspect at the time.
And that's where my knowledge of Ultima ends.
Chrono Trigger (SNES)
Digimon World DS (DS)
Digimon World Dawn (DS)
Digimon World Dusk (DS)
Dragon Warrior Monsters (GBC)
Dragon Warrior Monsters 2 (GBC)
Dragon Quest IV (DS)
Dragon Quest Monsters Joker (DS)
Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 2 (DS)
Fire Emblem Awakening (3DS)
Hexyz Force (PSP) This is one of the best RPGs I've played, and while it is pricy, if you have a PSP, you NEED to play this game.
Megaman battle network (GBA) The whole series is amazing. Skip the starforce series though. That series is mediocre at best.
All the pokemon games (main series only)
Paper Mario the Thousand Year Door (GCN) This is one of my top 10 games of all time, let alone top RPGs.
Originally posted by: WashYourFace
Originally posted by: Daria
We need some Ultima also. UO started the whole MMO craze, but I don't which single player title to nominate.
I think Ultima IV on the NES is probably the best for a casual RPG'er (you don't have to mix reagents for spells).
III has a terrible system of combat & starvation.
V is a bad port to the NES.
IV, V and VI are OK on the PC if you can find a way to run them, but you need to know reagent recipes and hotkeys.
VII was good on the PC, don't know what the SNES version is like.
Savage Empire - don't know, never played it
Martian Dreams- that sure was weird. Utlima on Mars.
VIII is notorious, although I didn't hate it that much.
Underworld is fun on the PC, except that it's bugged without patches.
I was a beta player for UO, and it had a lot of problems, but it was novel for the MMO aspect at the time.
And that's where my knowledge of Ultima ends.
My first Ultima was IV, and honestly it was so archaic I wouldn't wish any of the earlier entries on someone. It's a good history lesson however and you have to respect the series for basically birthing a lot of ideas that made Dragon Quest what it was.
I'm still not sure what Ultimas, if any, are must plays. It seems like many of the later games went to that yucky isometric view that Ultima Online had. If I can say one more thing very favorable about these games, it's that you can often kill the NPCs.
I say
final fantasy and dragon warrior
Originally posted by: cirellio
Originally posted by: WashYourFace
Originally posted by: Daria
We need some Ultima also. UO started the whole MMO craze, but I don't which single player title to nominate.
I think Ultima IV on the NES is probably the best for a casual RPG'er (you don't have to mix reagents for spells).
III has a terrible system of combat & starvation.
V is a bad port to the NES.
IV, V and VI are OK on the PC if you can find a way to run them, but you need to know reagent recipes and hotkeys.
VII was good on the PC, don't know what the SNES version is like.
Savage Empire - don't know, never played it
Martian Dreams- that sure was weird. Utlima on Mars.
VIII is notorious, although I didn't hate it that much.
Underworld is fun on the PC, except that it's bugged without patches.
I was a beta player for UO, and it had a lot of problems, but it was novel for the MMO aspect at the time.
And that's where my knowledge of Ultima ends.
My first Ultima was IV, and honestly it was so archaic I wouldn't wish any of the earlier entries on someone. It's a good history lesson however and you have to respect the series for basically birthing a lot of ideas that made Dragon Quest what it was.
I'm still not sure what Ultimas, if any, are must plays. It seems like many of the later games went to that yucky isometric view that Ultima Online had. If I can say one more thing very favorable about these games, it's that you can often kill the NPCs.
I agree, I wouldn't really recommend any of them to someone who isn't normally into RPGs.
They all require quite a bit of investment of the player and commitment to that style of gaming.
You can't just start it up and run around and kill stuff.
I would say, "you might not like it, but you should play it".
I only recommend IV on the NES because, like I said, it's the most accessible to a non-RPG fan, and kind of gives them a taste of what Dragon Warrior on steroids is like. It's also the best Ultima IMHO.
Originally posted by: cirellio
Originally posted by: WashYourFace
Originally posted by: Daria
We need some Ultima also. UO started the whole MMO craze, but I don't which single player title to nominate.
I think Ultima IV on the NES is probably the best for a casual RPG'er (you don't have to mix reagents for spells).
III has a terrible system of combat & starvation.
V is a bad port to the NES.
IV, V and VI are OK on the PC if you can find a way to run them, but you need to know reagent recipes and hotkeys.
VII was good on the PC, don't know what the SNES version is like.
Savage Empire - don't know, never played it
Martian Dreams- that sure was weird. Utlima on Mars.
VIII is notorious, although I didn't hate it that much.
Underworld is fun on the PC, except that it's bugged without patches.
I was a beta player for UO, and it had a lot of problems, but it was novel for the MMO aspect at the time.
And that's where my knowledge of Ultima ends.
My first Ultima was IV, and honestly it was so archaic I wouldn't wish any of the earlier entries on someone. It's a good history lesson however and you have to respect the series for basically birthing a lot of ideas that made Dragon Quest what it was.
I'm still not sure what Ultimas, if any, are must plays. It seems like many of the later games went to that yucky isometric view that Ultima Online had. If I can say one more thing very favorable about these games, it's that you can often kill the NPCs.
I agree, I wouldn't really recommend any of them to someone who isn't normally into RPGs.
They all require quite a bit of investment of the player and commitment to that style of gaming.
You can't just start it up and run around and kill stuff.
I would say, "you might not like it, but you should play it".
I only recommend IV on the NES because, like I said, it's the most accessible to a non-RPG fan, and kind of gives them a taste of what Dragon Warrior on steroids is like. It's also the best Ultima IMHO.
I actually love Ultima Exodus, don't see what's so terrible about its tactical combat, but yeah Avatar's probably the more accessible game.
I actually like it, but I hate the food system. I think it ruins the game.
My complaint about the combat is because of the way enemies are tied to your level - if you level up, all the enemies level up (and therefore if you stay low, they also stay low). It's not as big of a deal as the food issue, but I don't think this is a very good system.
You can't even get a ship if you don't level up enough (and steal one from pirates) which caused me lots of frustration as a kid.
Exodus frustrates me because it could have been a great game.
I actually like it, but I hate the food system. I think it ruins the game.
My complaint about the combat is because of the way enemies are tied to your level - if you level up, all the enemies level up (and therefore if you stay low, they also stay low). It's not as big of a deal as the food issue, but I don't think this is a very good system.
You can't even get a ship if you don't level up enough (and steal one from pirates) which caused me lots of frustration as a kid.
Oh yeah, the leveled monsters was crap. Food was annoying, but not game breaking.
Originally posted by: gutsman004
Castlevania Symphony of the Night is NOT an RPG. It's a platformer with RPG elements. And regardless of that,not being on the "must play" list is an absolute abomination and completely invalidates this list.
There's a couple of games on here i questioned as well but that's for you guys to decide not me. Anyways Chrono Trigger seems to have the upper hand atm so i will add another title for the single game that gathers the most votes!
Originally posted by: gutsman004
Castlevania Symphony of the Night is NOT an RPG. It's a platformer with RPG elements. And regardless of that,not being on the "must play" list is an absolute abomination and completely invalidates this list.
Agreed on both counts!
Dragon Quest VIII - PS2
Shining Force II
Shining Force CD
Shining Force III
Shining in the darkness
Super Mario RPG
Final Fantasy Tactics
Suikoden
Suikoden II
Suikoden V
Vandal Hearts
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts II
Dragon Warrior III
Dragon Warrior IV