But the average person isn't playing for 100% completion either, or playing in any standard play style. The average person will skip levels they don't need to complete, use the clouds and p-wings, and so on, so they're not going to be as familiar with the levels as someone who's played the crap out of it. That was my point. You can't spout off stats without a source, and "well that's how me and 2 of my friends play it" isn't good enough.
I listed the website already in the thread. Twice I believe.
wasnt talking about how the avg player would play it. We are talking about if they do attempt to beat all of it. It is possible to beat it way faster. Like smw, I can beat it a lot faster, but I'm not an avg smw player, I have that whole game pretty memorized and rarely ever die in it and know the multiple exits in all the levels to 96 star it. But I'm not going to sit here and try to claim I beat it twin galaxies style and all the levels the first day I played it in 3 hours when I was 6 and received it for Christmas
if you can casually beat Smb 3 in 2 hours then more power to you. I wouldn't say you'd be the avg player though.
Obviously a first time playthrough isn't going to be the fastest a person can play. And I never claimed TG times when I was 6 lol or that it was a 100% run. You really like to read only what you want to read lol. I've stated that I'm NOT the average player (especially when I can speed run some of the more challenging games on a lot of systems that would compete with TG's scores - anyone who's been to campout or chat will tell you this). Again, you piece meal posts and disregard information for some unknown reason.
Also, I'm not going to sift through 200+ posts to see if you may or may not have posted a link. Your claim was the average player takes X hours, I disagreed and asked where you got your stats from. Still no proof of your claim. It's not a 6+ hour game for the average player. First time players =/= average players.
I think the miscommunication started when you didn't understand my original point.
But the average person isn't playing for 100% completion either, or playing in any standard play style. The average person will skip levels they don't need to complete, use the clouds and p-wings, and so on, so they're not going to be as familiar with the levels as someone who's played the crap out of it. That was my point. You can't spout off stats without a source, and "well that's how me and 2 of my friends play it" isn't good enough.
I listed the website already in the thread. Twice I believe.
wasnt talking about how the avg player would play it. We are talking about if they do attempt to beat all of it. It is possible to beat it way faster. Like smw, I can beat it a lot faster, but I'm not an avg smw player, I have that whole game pretty memorized and rarely ever die in it and know the multiple exits in all the levels to 96 star it. But I'm not going to sit here and try to claim I beat it twin galaxies style and all the levels the first day I played it in 3 hours when I was 6 and received it for Christmas
if you can casually beat Smb 3 in 2 hours then more power to you. I wouldn't say you'd be the avg player though.
Obviously a first time playthrough isn't going to be the fastest a person can play. And I never claimed TG times when I was 6 lol or that it was a 100% run. You really like to read only what you want to read lol. I've stated that I'm NOT the average player (especially when I can speed run some of the more challenging games on a lot of systems that would compete with TG's scores - anyone who's been to campout or chat will tell you this). Again, you piece meal posts and disregard information for some unknown reason.
Also, I'm not going to sift through 200+ posts to see if you may or may not have posted a link. Your claim was the average player takes X hours, I disagreed and asked where you got your stats from. Still no proof of your claim. It's not a 6+ hour game for the average player. First time players =/= average players.
I think the miscommunication started when you didn't understand my original point.
Or maybe you're the one who doesn't understand.
Maybe. I think we are pointlessly discussing 2 different things.
Speaking of which, what are everyones favorite levels/worlds in the game? I think my favorite world is 5. You get the hammer suit and tanooki suit, and I just love those cloud stages.
I'm going to go with World 5 as well. Tanooki Suit + going up to the cloud part of the world, enough said. I must be honest though... I can't think of where to get the Hammer Bros. (off the top of my head) Feeling a little sheepish on that one, haha.
You know it's funny two people mention World 5 and nobody brings up the the Kuribo Shoe from 5-3. I find it so neat that they placed the powerup in the game just for that one level. It could have been one of those obscure beta elements that just got canned at the last minute, but Nintendo kept it just for that one stage. You just don't see that form of dedication to level design anymore.
World was great and IMO had better flow overall, but didn't have the sheer variety of powerups that Super Mario Bros 3 did. I think the frog suit was my favorite, besides the Hammer which let you kill practically antthing. I also once attempted to play through the entire game 100% with the Game Genie code "Start and Stay as Frog Mario". That was an interesting experience. Several stages in the game require you to do a crouch slide and become impassable with the Frog suit. One of those is a fortress in World 6 that can't be skipped with a Cloud, so i had to use the Whiste to escape. There's also a stage somewhere that needs a Racoon Tail to fly up throug the air and bust through a brick wall to reveal a hidden passage. Overall, it took me a little over four or five hours to play through the game. I honestly have no idea as I wasn't timing it. Toying with Bowser in the Frog costume sure was fun though...
Speaking of which, what are everyones favorite levels/worlds in the game? I think my favorite world is 5. You get the hammer suit and tanooki suit, and I just love those cloud stages.
I'm going to go with World 5 as well. Tanooki Suit + going up to the cloud part of the world, enough said. I must be honest though... I can't think of where to get the Hammer Bros. (off the top of my head) Feeling a little sheepish on that one, haha.
You know it's funny two people mention World 5 and nobody brings up the the Kuribo Shoe from 5-3. I find it so neat that they placed the powerup in the game just for that one level. It could have been one of those obscure beta elements that just got canned at the last minute, but Nintendo kept it just for that one stage. You just don't see that form of dedication to level design anymore.
World was great and IMO had better flow overall, but didn't have the sheer variety of powerups that Super Mario Bros 3 did. I think the frog suit was my favorite, besides the Hammer which let you kill practically antthing. I also once attempted to play through the entire game 100% with the Game Genie code "Start and Stay as Frog Mario". That was an interesting experience. Several stages in the game require you to do a crouch slide and become impassable with the Frog suit. One of those is a fortress in World 6 that can't be skipped with a Cloud, so i had to use the Whiste to escape. There's also a stage somewhere that needs a Racoon Tail to fly up throug the air and bust through a brick wall to reveal a hidden passage. Overall, it took me a little over four or five hours to play through the game. I honestly have no idea as I wasn't timing it. Toying with Bowser in the Frog costume sure was fun though...
Good point. Love "the boot" as we called it, haha... Still one of my favourites. Can't believe I didn't type that out.
Can't say I love the frog suit thouhg. Tanooki was my favourite. Frog was great int he water though, of course.
Fun to play the game witht he frog suit, though, haha. Nice.
There were surely going to be more levels with the Goomba's Shoe in it, of the 15 incomplete levels found inside the cart with a Game Genie, many of them contain the shoe again
Frog Suit has got to be the whackiest powerup ever. It's almost a handicap out of water.
As for cool factor and sheer power, I gotta go with the hammer suit.
Frog suit really is.
Awesome .gif! Haha, that's hilarious. I never used the Hammer Bros. much. I remember losing my shit when I realized you could crouch down and block/absorb fire. That was likw 3 years ago, haha.
Originally posted by: Trj22487
There were surely going to be more levels with the Goomba's Shoe in it, of the 15 incomplete levels found inside the cart with a Game Genie, many of them contain the shoe again
Another cool thing I never knew about this game until now, if you keep on skipping the card game like I did, and then decide to play it on World 6 or 7, you'll play it 6 or 7 times in a row. It makes it way easier to remember where the cards are and you can rack up a ton of items at the end of the game.
I already talked about playing the card game back to back as much as you want right after the first level. Just keep racking up points instead of 1-ups at the infinitely-spawning Goombas in 1-2 until your time runs out. Do it again but save enough time to beat the stage and you will have spawned multiple back-to-back card games. You can do it again and again if you desire to keep racking up more. It's great fun and practice without having to play all the way through to one of the final worlds.
Get over it people. The fact there are still people on this very forum that enjoy games like SMB2 and SMB3 very much yet have not beaten them without save states or cheat codes. I can pop in Super Mario 3 and warp to any level and have fun with it without beating the game, so you guys arguing over time required to do a full run is bogus. One person beats it as an 8 year old in 3-4 hours, and another played it for years without completing the game. It's all semantics.
For the record, there are some very unforgiving levels in SMB3. The angry sun, the hungry fish, the spinning platforms, can and often do bring fear into casual players. The bosses are actually easy by comparison than continually dodging an undefeatable enemy throughout a tricky platforming level. Yes you can kill the fish with a fireball, but it comes back in short order.
Compared to World, yes there are tricky areas, but when playing straight through, the stages don't get unforgiving until you get to the Star Road and Special Worlds. I need to pick up my old SMAS+SMW cart and complete my straight play through. Another game I've never quite finished. At least you can quick save by replaying any Castle, Fortress, or Ghost House, and they've got the top secret area for infinite 1UPs...
Funny. Even as a little kid I found it easier to jump through the whirlwind in a way that launches me past the Angry Sun for almost the entire level. That was probably the first or second time I ever beat that stage and I never found it difficult again.
Get over it people. The fact there are still people on this very forum that enjoy games like SMB2 and SMB3 very much yet have not beaten them without save states or cheat codes. I can pop in Super Mario 3 and warp to any level and have fun with it without beating the game, so you guys arguing over time required to do a full run is bogus. One person beats it as an 8 year old in 3-4 hours, and another played it for years without completing the game. It's all semantics.
For the record, there are some very unforgiving levels in SMB3. The angry sun, the hungry fish, the spinning platforms, can and often do bring fear into casual players. The bosses are actually easy by comparison than continually dodging an undefeatable enemy throughout a tricky platforming level. Yes you can kill the fish with a fireball, but it comes back in short order.
Compared to World, yes there are tricky areas, but when playing straight through, the stages don't get unforgiving until you get to the Star Road and Special Worlds. I need to pick up my old SMAS+SMW cart and complete my straight play through. Another game I've never quite finished. At least you can quick save by replaying any Castle, Fortress, or Ghost House, and they've got the top secret area for infinite 1UPs...
Funny. Even as a little kid I found it easier to jump through the whirlwind in a way that launches me past the Angry Sun for almost the entire level. That was probably the first or second time I ever beat that stage and I never found it difficult again.
Yeah that's an easy stage, I always do that too, just at that bush before the whirlwind, it picks you up for like 100 yards lol, and then just run like hell after that and you're fine.
Here's a good video showing off the levels, some even have some cool secrets in them, I used to know Game Genie codes for a few of these like 15 years ago. I also remember having codes that changed around a few existing levels to what were supposedly their beta versions, a few had slightly different ends. I lost the pages I had them written on long ago though...
Meh, you guys are crazy. The only point I agree with is the lack of a save feature... but that is common in a lot of NES games.
Definitely one of my favorite Marios of all time. The big levels (world 4) were absolutely amazing to me at the time.
And Kuribo's shoe? That is one of my favorite power-ups all-time as well.
This. I opened this thread expecting the OP to be trolling. SMB3 is nearly a perfectly crafted video game in my opinion. And I only say "nearly" due to the save issue.
I remember seeing SMB3 in the final scenes of the movie The Wizard that came out shortly after the release of SMB3, and that served as the most exciting video game commercial ever for little 8 year-old me. I remember that the friend of mine whose house we'd seen The Wizard at convinced (ie: begged) his mom to buy him a copy, and we didn't need a babysitter for the next year and a half.
Here's a good video showing off the levels, some even have some cool secrets in them, I used to know Game Genie codes for a few of these like 15 years ago. I also remember having codes that changed around a few existing levels to what were supposedly their beta versions, a few had slightly different ends. I lost the pages I had them written on long ago though...
Meh, you guys are crazy. The only point I agree with is the lack of a save feature... but that is common in a lot of NES games.
Definitely one of my favorite Marios of all time. The big levels (world 4) were absolutely amazing to me at the time.
And Kuribo's shoe? That is one of my favorite power-ups all-time as well.
This. I opened this thread expecting the OP to be trolling. SMB3 is nearly a perfectly crafted video game in my opinion. And I only say "nearly" due to the save issue.
I remember seeing SMB3 in the final scenes of the movie The Wizard that came out shortly after the release of SMB3, and that served as the most exciting video game commercial ever for little 8 year-old me. I remember that the friend of mine whose house we'd seen The Wizard at convinced (ie: begged) his mom to buy him a copy, and we didn't need a babysitter for the next year and a half.
May not have been trolling, but he's been banned for his crazy views! Haha, sorry.. all kidding aside, I hope no one here at NA was negatively affected in a transaction.
Back to the good stuff... THE WIZARD. So amazing. It's been a while since I've watched it. Long enough to grab the DVD out. Always good for a watch.
I also recall watching the VHS. During my Dad's 40th birthday party (outside in the back yard) they had to keep the kids busy so they gave us The Wizard and starburst. Needless to say, it's still keeping me busy.
Neato. Is the behavior of the golden Cheep Cheep different to the green and red ones?
Yes they do behave differently, they only appear in one stage which is a scrolling stage. The red and green cheep cheep move both left and right slowly and basically stay put, where as the gold ones travel in packs of 2 or 3 and move across the entire screen from right to left much more quickly, and they weave up and down like the Wave Beam in Metroid as well.
I've always thought that people disliking SMB3 and make that info public is only looking for attention or a hug
Or perhaps they think World is the better game but fail to voice their opins properly...
Why do we harp on someone for disliking SMB3? Surely if someone claimed to dislike SMB2, it would not incite the same negative reaction. There are many here who think SMB2 is awesome, and many who think it sucks. But SMB3 is so universally loved that we silence any critic of the game?
Now I think SMB3 is an incredible game. So are SMW and SMB1. And SMB2 is certainly inventive and contributed much to the Mario canon even if it didn't start life as a Mario platform. Whatever. I love Mario. All of them. But I think the original SMB1 is my favorite. So what?
Whatever the reason the OP didn't like Mario 3 doesn't matter because he is banned from here and can no longer defend himself. Everyone has opinions on what games they like or how they play them, all equally valid. So why not get along?
It is a game, after all. But sometimes people speak of Super Mario Brothers 3 as if it is a divine creation or transcendental in some way. It is not.
I'm not referring to anyone specifically when I say this. Super Mario 3 gets a lot of praise and deservedly so, but occasionally people go overboard with it and decry any detractors of their high and mighty opinion as heretics.
I don't see too much of that going on in this thread, but it has happened before.
SMB3 is hands down my favorite NES game. I remember being obsessed with the game months before I even got it. I bought the Nintendo Power Player's Guide and poured of the pages the summer before my birthday(when I finally got the game). To this day, I still pop it in and play it casually about once a week or so.
But, I absolutely understand people disliking it. Sometime it's not even a specific thing(such as no saves), but just something doesn't jive with a person. I'm the same way with Zelda OoT; I just cannot get into that game at all. Pre-ordered it and everything. I got rid of it shortly after getting it, and have been turned off to the Zelda series since. So, I can empathize with those who don't like every flagship franchise game.
SMB3 is hands down my favorite NES game. I remember being obsessed with the game months before I even got it. I bought the Nintendo Power Player's Guide and poured of the pages the summer before my birthday(when I finally got the game). To this day, I still pop it in and play it casually about once a week or so.
But, I absolutely understand people disliking it. Sometime it's not even a specific thing(such as no saves), but just something doesn't jive with a person. I'm the same way with Zelda OoT; I just cannot get into that game at all. Pre-ordered it and everything. I got rid of it shortly after getting it, and have been turned off to the Zelda series since. So, I can empathize with those who don't like every flagship franchise game.
I decided to play SMB 3 for a while the other day and that's basically the feeling that I got from it. It's a fine game and all, but I just don't see it being as great as most other people do. I guess I just prefer the simplicity of the original along with the other early NES titles that I grew up with.
One reason I like World more: you can replay levels you've already beaten to grind for lives (or use the top secret area for freebies), and when you've passed a hard stage or get bored, replay an easy Ghost house or castle and save progress. SMB3 you shut off or reset and it's back to square one.
Objectively SMB3 a great game, but I will say that I've never played to levels 5, 6, 7, or 8 without using a whistle on the NES.
I have beaten All-Stars SMB3 without a whistle. Playing through on All-Stars is nice because of the save feature (even though it doesn't retain the number of extra lives you left off with).
I doubt I'll ever play all the way through the NES version. For that reason, I can completely understand the flak it gets in that respect. But the level design, power ups, and music are what make it great. I could honestly do without the bonus games, but the item huts are cool. So are the map encounter battles although I wish there was more variety in the power up prize. How often does the Star actually come in handy?
Sunday is NES day, and I'm dedicating it entirely to seeing how far I can make it in SMB3 before I get bored with it
I make it to the part where you can slide down green hills on your butt, then I'm bored.
I'm not a platformer guy
Wow dude. At least get to Desert World aka World 2 before you get bored. Without a whistle, I can make it to the Angry Sun level before I get screwed out of all my surplus lives.
The Angry Sun is even more obnoxious than that hungry gigantic fish in World 3.
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But the average person isn't playing for 100% completion either, or playing in any standard play style. The average person will skip levels they don't need to complete, use the clouds and p-wings, and so on, so they're not going to be as familiar with the levels as someone who's played the crap out of it. That was my point. You can't spout off stats without a source, and "well that's how me and 2 of my friends play it" isn't good enough.
I listed the website already in the thread. Twice I believe.
wasnt talking about how the avg player would play it. We are talking about if they do attempt to beat all of it. It is possible to beat it way faster. Like smw, I can beat it a lot faster, but I'm not an avg smw player, I have that whole game pretty memorized and rarely ever die in it and know the multiple exits in all the levels to 96 star it. But I'm not going to sit here and try to claim I beat it twin galaxies style and all the levels the first day I played it in 3 hours when I was 6 and received it for Christmas
if you can casually beat Smb 3 in 2 hours then more power to you. I wouldn't say you'd be the avg player though.
Obviously a first time playthrough isn't going to be the fastest a person can play. And I never claimed TG times when I was 6 lol or that it was a 100% run. You really like to read only what you want to read lol. I've stated that I'm NOT the average player (especially when I can speed run some of the more challenging games on a lot of systems that would compete with TG's scores - anyone who's been to campout or chat will tell you this). Again, you piece meal posts and disregard information for some unknown reason.
Also, I'm not going to sift through 200+ posts to see if you may or may not have posted a link. Your claim was the average player takes X hours, I disagreed and asked where you got your stats from. Still no proof of your claim. It's not a 6+ hour game for the average player. First time players =/= average players.
I think the miscommunication started when you didn't understand my original point.
Or maybe you're the one who doesn't understand.
But the average person isn't playing for 100% completion either, or playing in any standard play style. The average person will skip levels they don't need to complete, use the clouds and p-wings, and so on, so they're not going to be as familiar with the levels as someone who's played the crap out of it. That was my point. You can't spout off stats without a source, and "well that's how me and 2 of my friends play it" isn't good enough.
I listed the website already in the thread. Twice I believe.
wasnt talking about how the avg player would play it. We are talking about if they do attempt to beat all of it. It is possible to beat it way faster. Like smw, I can beat it a lot faster, but I'm not an avg smw player, I have that whole game pretty memorized and rarely ever die in it and know the multiple exits in all the levels to 96 star it. But I'm not going to sit here and try to claim I beat it twin galaxies style and all the levels the first day I played it in 3 hours when I was 6 and received it for Christmas
if you can casually beat Smb 3 in 2 hours then more power to you. I wouldn't say you'd be the avg player though.
Obviously a first time playthrough isn't going to be the fastest a person can play. And I never claimed TG times when I was 6 lol or that it was a 100% run. You really like to read only what you want to read lol. I've stated that I'm NOT the average player (especially when I can speed run some of the more challenging games on a lot of systems that would compete with TG's scores - anyone who's been to campout or chat will tell you this). Again, you piece meal posts and disregard information for some unknown reason.
Also, I'm not going to sift through 200+ posts to see if you may or may not have posted a link. Your claim was the average player takes X hours, I disagreed and asked where you got your stats from. Still no proof of your claim. It's not a 6+ hour game for the average player. First time players =/= average players.
I think the miscommunication started when you didn't understand my original point.
Or maybe you're the one who doesn't understand.
Maybe. I think we are pointlessly discussing 2 different things.
Maybe. I think we are pointlessly discussing 2 different things.
I can agree with that lol
Speaking of which, what are everyones favorite levels/worlds in the game? I think my favorite world is 5. You get the hammer suit and tanooki suit, and I just love those cloud stages.
I'm going to go with World 5 as well. Tanooki Suit + going up to the cloud part of the world, enough said. I must be honest though... I can't think of where to get the Hammer Bros. (off the top of my head) Feeling a little sheepish on that one, haha.
You know it's funny two people mention World 5 and nobody brings up the the Kuribo Shoe from 5-3. I find it so neat that they placed the powerup in the game just for that one level. It could have been one of those obscure beta elements that just got canned at the last minute, but Nintendo kept it just for that one stage. You just don't see that form of dedication to level design anymore.
World was great and IMO had better flow overall, but didn't have the sheer variety of powerups that Super Mario Bros 3 did. I think the frog suit was my favorite, besides the Hammer which let you kill practically antthing. I also once attempted to play through the entire game 100% with the Game Genie code "Start and Stay as Frog Mario". That was an interesting experience. Several stages in the game require you to do a crouch slide and become impassable with the Frog suit. One of those is a fortress in World 6 that can't be skipped with a Cloud, so i had to use the Whiste to escape. There's also a stage somewhere that needs a Racoon Tail to fly up throug the air and bust through a brick wall to reveal a hidden passage. Overall, it took me a little over four or five hours to play through the game. I honestly have no idea as I wasn't timing it. Toying with Bowser in the Frog costume sure was fun though...
Speaking of which, what are everyones favorite levels/worlds in the game? I think my favorite world is 5. You get the hammer suit and tanooki suit, and I just love those cloud stages.
I'm going to go with World 5 as well. Tanooki Suit + going up to the cloud part of the world, enough said. I must be honest though... I can't think of where to get the Hammer Bros. (off the top of my head) Feeling a little sheepish on that one, haha.
You know it's funny two people mention World 5 and nobody brings up the the Kuribo Shoe from 5-3. I find it so neat that they placed the powerup in the game just for that one level. It could have been one of those obscure beta elements that just got canned at the last minute, but Nintendo kept it just for that one stage. You just don't see that form of dedication to level design anymore.
World was great and IMO had better flow overall, but didn't have the sheer variety of powerups that Super Mario Bros 3 did. I think the frog suit was my favorite, besides the Hammer which let you kill practically antthing. I also once attempted to play through the entire game 100% with the Game Genie code "Start and Stay as Frog Mario". That was an interesting experience. Several stages in the game require you to do a crouch slide and become impassable with the Frog suit. One of those is a fortress in World 6 that can't be skipped with a Cloud, so i had to use the Whiste to escape. There's also a stage somewhere that needs a Racoon Tail to fly up throug the air and bust through a brick wall to reveal a hidden passage. Overall, it took me a little over four or five hours to play through the game. I honestly have no idea as I wasn't timing it. Toying with Bowser in the Frog costume sure was fun though...
Good point. Love "the boot" as we called it, haha... Still one of my favourites. Can't believe I didn't type that out.
Can't say I love the frog suit thouhg. Tanooki was my favourite. Frog was great int he water though, of course.
Fun to play the game witht he frog suit, though, haha. Nice.
As for cool factor and sheer power, I gotta go with the hammer suit.
http://www.transmissionzero.co.uk/gaming/mario3-lost-levels/
Frog Suit has got to be the whackiest powerup ever. It's almost a handicap out of water.
As for cool factor and sheer power, I gotta go with the hammer suit.
Frog suit really is.
Awesome .gif! Haha, that's hilarious. I never used the Hammer Bros. much. I remember losing my shit when I realized you could crouch down and block/absorb fire. That was likw 3 years ago, haha.
There were surely going to be more levels with the Goomba's Shoe in it, of the 15 incomplete levels found inside the cart with a Game Genie, many of them contain the shoe again
http://www.transmissionzero.co.uk...
Whoa. Mind blown once again. Bookmarked. Thanks!
Another cool thing I never knew about this game until now, if you keep on skipping the card game like I did, and then decide to play it on World 6 or 7, you'll play it 6 or 7 times in a row. It makes it way easier to remember where the cards are and you can rack up a ton of items at the end of the game.
I already talked about playing the card game back to back as much as you want right after the first level. Just keep racking up points instead of 1-ups at the infinitely-spawning Goombas in 1-2 until your time runs out. Do it again but save enough time to beat the stage and you will have spawned multiple back-to-back card games. You can do it again and again if you desire to keep racking up more. It's great fun and practice without having to play all the way through to one of the final worlds.
Get over it people. The fact there are still people on this very forum that enjoy games like SMB2 and SMB3 very much yet have not beaten them without save states or cheat codes. I can pop in Super Mario 3 and warp to any level and have fun with it without beating the game, so you guys arguing over time required to do a full run is bogus. One person beats it as an 8 year old in 3-4 hours, and another played it for years without completing the game. It's all semantics.
For the record, there are some very unforgiving levels in SMB3. The angry sun, the hungry fish, the spinning platforms, can and often do bring fear into casual players. The bosses are actually easy by comparison than continually dodging an undefeatable enemy throughout a tricky platforming level. Yes you can kill the fish with a fireball, but it comes back in short order.
Compared to World, yes there are tricky areas, but when playing straight through, the stages don't get unforgiving until you get to the Star Road and Special Worlds. I need to pick up my old SMAS+SMW cart and complete my straight play through. Another game I've never quite finished. At least you can quick save by replaying any Castle, Fortress, or Ghost House, and they've got the top secret area for infinite 1UPs...
Funny. Even as a little kid I found it easier to jump through the whirlwind in a way that launches me past the Angry Sun for almost the entire level. That was probably the first or second time I ever beat that stage and I never found it difficult again.
Originally posted by: CZroe
Originally posted by: stardust4ever
Get over it people. The fact there are still people on this very forum that enjoy games like SMB2 and SMB3 very much yet have not beaten them without save states or cheat codes. I can pop in Super Mario 3 and warp to any level and have fun with it without beating the game, so you guys arguing over time required to do a full run is bogus. One person beats it as an 8 year old in 3-4 hours, and another played it for years without completing the game. It's all semantics.
For the record, there are some very unforgiving levels in SMB3. The angry sun, the hungry fish, the spinning platforms, can and often do bring fear into casual players. The bosses are actually easy by comparison than continually dodging an undefeatable enemy throughout a tricky platforming level. Yes you can kill the fish with a fireball, but it comes back in short order.
Compared to World, yes there are tricky areas, but when playing straight through, the stages don't get unforgiving until you get to the Star Road and Special Worlds. I need to pick up my old SMAS+SMW cart and complete my straight play through. Another game I've never quite finished. At least you can quick save by replaying any Castle, Fortress, or Ghost House, and they've got the top secret area for infinite 1UPs...
Funny. Even as a little kid I found it easier to jump through the whirlwind in a way that launches me past the Angry Sun for almost the entire level. That was probably the first or second time I ever beat that stage and I never found it difficult again.
Yeah that's an easy stage, I always do that too, just at that bush before the whirlwind, it picks you up for like 100 yards lol, and then just run like hell after that and you're fine.
Originally posted by: AirVillain
Whoa. Mind blown once again. Bookmarked. Thanks!
Here's a good video showing off the levels, some even have some cool secrets in them, I used to know Game Genie codes for a few of these like 15 years ago. I also remember having codes that changed around a few existing levels to what were supposedly their beta versions, a few had slightly different ends. I lost the pages I had them written on long ago though...
Meh, you guys are crazy. The only point I agree with is the lack of a save feature... but that is common in a lot of NES games.
Definitely one of my favorite Marios of all time. The big levels (world 4) were absolutely amazing to me at the time.
And Kuribo's shoe? That is one of my favorite power-ups all-time as well.
This. I opened this thread expecting the OP to be trolling. SMB3 is nearly a perfectly crafted video game in my opinion. And I only say "nearly" due to the save issue.
I remember seeing SMB3 in the final scenes of the movie The Wizard that came out shortly after the release of SMB3, and that served as the most exciting video game commercial ever for little 8 year-old me. I remember that the friend of mine whose house we'd seen The Wizard at convinced (ie: begged) his mom to buy him a copy, and we didn't need a babysitter for the next year and a half.
Whoa. Mind blown once again. Bookmarked. Thanks!
Here's a good video showing off the levels, some even have some cool secrets in them, I used to know Game Genie codes for a few of these like 15 years ago. I also remember having codes that changed around a few existing levels to what were supposedly their beta versions, a few had slightly different ends. I lost the pages I had them written on long ago though...
https://www.youtube.com/embed/XKS-xf5O0FM
Sick!
Meh, you guys are crazy. The only point I agree with is the lack of a save feature... but that is common in a lot of NES games.
Definitely one of my favorite Marios of all time. The big levels (world 4) were absolutely amazing to me at the time.
And Kuribo's shoe? That is one of my favorite power-ups all-time as well.
This. I opened this thread expecting the OP to be trolling. SMB3 is nearly a perfectly crafted video game in my opinion. And I only say "nearly" due to the save issue.
I remember seeing SMB3 in the final scenes of the movie The Wizard that came out shortly after the release of SMB3, and that served as the most exciting video game commercial ever for little 8 year-old me. I remember that the friend of mine whose house we'd seen The Wizard at convinced (ie: begged) his mom to buy him a copy, and we didn't need a babysitter for the next year and a half.
May not have been trolling, but he's been banned for his crazy views! Haha, sorry.. all kidding aside, I hope no one here at NA was negatively affected in a transaction.
Back to the good stuff... THE WIZARD. So amazing. It's been a while since I've watched it. Long enough to grab the DVD out. Always good for a watch.
I also recall watching the VHS. During my Dad's 40th birthday party (outside in the back yard) they had to keep the kids busy so they gave us The Wizard and starburst. Needless to say, it's still keeping me busy.
There is also one beta enemy in the game that appears nowhere in the finished game
Neato. Is the behavior of the golden Cheep Cheep different to the green and red ones?
Originally posted by: stardust4ever
Neato. Is the behavior of the golden Cheep Cheep different to the green and red ones?
Yes they do behave differently, they only appear in one stage which is a scrolling stage. The red and green cheep cheep move both left and right slowly and basically stay put, where as the gold ones travel in packs of 2 or 3 and move across the entire screen from right to left much more quickly, and they weave up and down like the Wave Beam in Metroid as well.
Originally posted by: vladictivo
I've always thought that people disliking SMB3 and make that info public is only looking for attention or a hug
Or perhaps they think World is the better game but fail to voice their opins properly...
Why do we harp on someone for disliking SMB3? Surely if someone claimed to dislike SMB2, it would not incite the same negative reaction. There are many here who think SMB2 is awesome, and many who think it sucks. But SMB3 is so universally loved that we silence any critic of the game?
Now I think SMB3 is an incredible game. So are SMW and SMB1. And SMB2 is certainly inventive and contributed much to the Mario canon even if it didn't start life as a Mario platform. Whatever. I love Mario. All of them. But I think the original SMB1 is my favorite. So what?
Whatever the reason the OP didn't like Mario 3 doesn't matter because he is banned from here and can no longer defend himself. Everyone has opinions on what games they like or how they play them, all equally valid. So why not get along?
Originally posted by: vladictivo
I am, of course, joking.
It is a game, after all. But sometimes people speak of Super Mario Brothers 3 as if it is a divine creation or transcendental in some way. It is not.
I'm not referring to anyone specifically when I say this. Super Mario 3 gets a lot of praise and deservedly so, but occasionally people go overboard with it and decry any detractors of their high and mighty opinion as heretics.
I don't see too much of that going on in this thread, but it has happened before.
But, I absolutely understand people disliking it. Sometime it's not even a specific thing(such as no saves), but just something doesn't jive with a person. I'm the same way with Zelda OoT; I just cannot get into that game at all. Pre-ordered it and everything. I got rid of it shortly after getting it, and have been turned off to the Zelda series since. So, I can empathize with those who don't like every flagship franchise game.
Originally posted by: Jandrem
SMB3 is hands down my favorite NES game. I remember being obsessed with the game months before I even got it. I bought the Nintendo Power Player's Guide and poured of the pages the summer before my birthday(when I finally got the game). To this day, I still pop it in and play it casually about once a week or so.
But, I absolutely understand people disliking it. Sometime it's not even a specific thing(such as no saves), but just something doesn't jive with a person. I'm the same way with Zelda OoT; I just cannot get into that game at all. Pre-ordered it and everything. I got rid of it shortly after getting it, and have been turned off to the Zelda series since. So, I can empathize with those who don't like every flagship franchise game.
I decided to play SMB 3 for a while the other day and that's basically the feeling that I got from it. It's a fine game and all, but I just don't see it being as great as most other people do. I guess I just prefer the simplicity of the original along with the other early NES titles that I grew up with.
Sunday is NES day, and I'm dedicating it entirely to seeing how far I can make it in SMB3 before I get bored with it
I make it to the part where you can slide down green hills on your butt, then I'm bored.
I'm not a platformer guy
I have beaten All-Stars SMB3 without a whistle. Playing through on All-Stars is nice because of the save feature (even though it doesn't retain the number of extra lives you left off with).
I doubt I'll ever play all the way through the NES version. For that reason, I can completely understand the flak it gets in that respect. But the level design, power ups, and music are what make it great. I could honestly do without the bonus games, but the item huts are cool. So are the map encounter battles although I wish there was more variety in the power up prize. How often does the Star actually come in handy?
Sunday is NES day, and I'm dedicating it entirely to seeing how far I can make it in SMB3 before I get bored with it
I make it to the part where you can slide down green hills on your butt, then I'm bored.
I'm not a platformer guy
Wow dude. At least get to Desert World aka World 2 before you get bored. Without a whistle, I can make it to the Angry Sun level before I get screwed out of all my surplus lives.
The Angry Sun is even more obnoxious than that hungry gigantic fish in World 3.