Capturing clean SNES footage with OBS or VirtualDub

Am I another talentless up and coming youtuber who wishes to try and get a piece of that sweet pie in life making entertainment for folks? YES I AM! I'M GOING TO DO REACTION VIDEOS, PRANK VIDEOS, AND GOING TO LOOTCRATE AND BE AUTHENTICALLY SURPRISED AND OVERWHELMED WITH JOY AT WHATEVER I GET!

Or... Wait. Real question time. So I have an issue with the stuff I record in OBS. I'm recording directly from the SNES because I'm knee deep in plastic and have ideas for it. However I can't get any quality to save my life. The audio is spot on, but the video, however, takes quite a heavy blow. The picture above comes from some footage I made just for the sake that I was comfortable enough to blow through Mega Man 7, make a choppy edit practice session, and upload it to see the quality and what not.

However I'm having a massive issue with the interlacing, I assume. In fact everything involving video makes me feel like I'm completely lost and confused.



Took me a while, but the audio quality is good, the color quality... needs some improvement, the frame rate's good, but I can't get rid of that striping effect. My capture card is the GC500 by Diamond, by and far the most undocumented piece of equipment I have ever used and the negative reviews of it only appeared to pop up once I started looking for solutions, and the program I'm using to capture footage is both Virtualdub and OBS. So far OBS has been far more intuitive and polite compared to Virtualdub, but some of the best recording I've seen with my capture device was done through Virtualdub.

For reference here's a test video I uploaded a few days ago to see if uploading it to youtube would alter the video any-- it didn't. Don't mind the frame skipping, I've fixed that.

https://youtu.be/wCEs59_DOg8?t=323

But I can't get rid of the lines. They're not as noticeable in some parts, but clear as day in others.

Further more here's a video I've taken some advice from in the comments to try and get Virtualdub to play friendly, but clearly I haven't been able to replicate their results.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-sYbDW9DoM

I'm guessing I'm the only person in the world who has issue recording SNES game play, but if any of you have any advice what to try and do to get this to function politely I'd greatly appreciate it.

Also, I'm using Vegas Pro for my editing and can't even get it to deinterlace in there, but I'm still fumbling around blindly in all reality.

Comments

  • You might have to find some kind of s-video recorder. I think few reasonable priced devices capture proper 15khz RGB.



    The GC500 has an s-video in, from the looks of it.
  • Yeah, I'm using S-Video, and the whole reason I got this thing was due to the fact that it had S-Video in and out on it, not to mention all of the rave reviews saying how easy it is to record SNES footage with it. The internet is full of liars.
  • I might be in the minority, but I kinda think if you are going for 'authenticity' using a real snes and what not this only adds to it?
  • Check your video bitrate - set it to like 4000 (it's under the encoding tab in settings)
  • Subscribed and following with interest. Good luck with your channel!
  • Originally posted by: Daria



    Check your video bitrate - set it to like 4000 (it's under the encoding tab in settings)



    I always thought more was better? Mine is set to 10k. But I'll give it a shot to see if it alters anything.



     
  • Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria



    Check your video bitrate - set it to like 4000 (it's under the encoding tab in settings)



    I always thought more was better? Mine is set to 10k. But I'll give it a shot to see if it alters anything.



     





    Huh. No don't lower it. How does your preview footage look?
  • Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria



    Check your video bitrate - set it to like 4000 (it's under the encoding tab in settings)



    I always thought more was better? Mine is set to 10k. But I'll give it a shot to see if it alters anything.



     





    Huh. No don't lower it. How does your preview footage look?

    Exactly the same. Frame rate's perfect, color's nice, but those verticle lines are still prominent.



     
  • Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria



    Check your video bitrate - set it to like 4000 (it's under the encoding tab in settings)



    I always thought more was better? Mine is set to 10k. But I'll give it a shot to see if it alters anything.



     





    Huh. No don't lower it. How does your preview footage look?

    Exactly the same. Frame rate's perfect, color's nice, but those verticle lines are still prominent.



     

    Well it's not your encoding. Sounds like the capture device or video connection is the culprit.



     
  • I know you don't want to hear this. But personally I'd capture footage from emulation for the best quality and edit that together with whatever real life video footage you're putting together of the plastic (if any). I know you feel like this is inauthentic but your audience will appreciate the improved video quality without having any clue how you actually went about filming it.
  • Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria



    Check your video bitrate - set it to like 4000 (it's under the encoding tab in settings)



    I always thought more was better? Mine is set to 10k. But I'll give it a shot to see if it alters anything.



     





    Huh. No don't lower it. How does your preview footage look?

    Exactly the same. Frame rate's perfect, color's nice, but those verticle lines are still prominent.



     

    Well it's not your encoding. Sounds like the capture device or video connection is the culprit.



     



    I just changed my cables hoping to see an improvement. This narrows it down to the odds of having two bad cables (one brand new and freshly removed from packaging) or this lying whore of a beast, the GC500. Leaning to the GC500 as the thing to blame.

     
  • Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria



    Check your video bitrate - set it to like 4000 (it's under the encoding tab in settings)



    I always thought more was better? Mine is set to 10k. But I'll give it a shot to see if it alters anything.



     





    Huh. No don't lower it. How does your preview footage look?

    Exactly the same. Frame rate's perfect, color's nice, but those verticle lines are still prominent.



     

    Well it's not your encoding. Sounds like the capture device or video connection is the culprit.



     



    I just changed my cables hoping to see an improvement. This narrows it down to the odds of having two bad cables (one brand new and freshly removed from packaging) or this lying whore of a beast, the GC500. Leaning to the GC500 as the thing to blame.

     



    Oooh. Amazon users were not kind to the GC500



    http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Multimedia-Definition-Loop-Through-GC500/dp/B008KEPWN8

     
  • Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria



    Check your video bitrate - set it to like 4000 (it's under the encoding tab in settings)



    I always thought more was better? Mine is set to 10k. But I'll give it a shot to see if it alters anything.



     





    Huh. No don't lower it. How does your preview footage look?

    Exactly the same. Frame rate's perfect, color's nice, but those verticle lines are still prominent.



     

    Well it's not your encoding. Sounds like the capture device or video connection is the culprit.



     



    I just changed my cables hoping to see an improvement. This narrows it down to the odds of having two bad cables (one brand new and freshly removed from packaging) or this lying whore of a beast, the GC500. Leaning to the GC500 as the thing to blame.

     



    Oooh. Amazon users were not kind to the GC500



    http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Mul...

     



    Yeah, virtually no one was polite to that thing. Diamond hasn't responded to three emails I sent, either. It's impossible to get a return set it for it.



    BUT I'VE SEEN WHAT OTHERS CAN DO! THAT GUY WITH THE F-ZERO VIDEO! I WANT TO BE LIKE HIM! I haven't bothered to contact the guy because his videos are over a year old, and no new uploads since 2014. That bastard has the key to my success.



    Or Diamond can give me a refund and I can put that toward a Dazzle or Elgato, or something that isn't this thing that supports S-Video.

     
  • Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria



    Check your video bitrate - set it to like 4000 (it's under the encoding tab in settings)



    I always thought more was better? Mine is set to 10k. But I'll give it a shot to see if it alters anything.



     





    Huh. No don't lower it. How does your preview footage look?

    Exactly the same. Frame rate's perfect, color's nice, but those verticle lines are still prominent.



     

    Well it's not your encoding. Sounds like the capture device or video connection is the culprit.



     



    I just changed my cables hoping to see an improvement. This narrows it down to the odds of having two bad cables (one brand new and freshly removed from packaging) or this lying whore of a beast, the GC500. Leaning to the GC500 as the thing to blame.

     



    Oooh. Amazon users were not kind to the GC500



    http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Multimedia-Definition-Loop-Thr...

     



    Yeah, virtually no one was polite to that thing. Diamond hasn't responded to three emails I sent, either. It's impossible to get a return set it for it.



    BUT I'VE SEEN WHAT OTHERS CAN DO! THAT GUY WITH THE F-ZERO VIDEO! I WANT TO BE LIKE HIM! I haven't bothered to contact the guy because his videos are over a year old, and no new uploads since 2014. That bastard has the key to my success.



    Or Diamond can give me a refund and I can put that toward a Dazzle or Elgato, or something that isn't this thing that supports S-Video.

     



    It wasn't cheap, but I just bought an Elgato HD. It's really nice and they sell a $10 adapter cable for S-video.

     
  • Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria



    Check your video bitrate - set it to like 4000 (it's under the encoding tab in settings)



    I always thought more was better? Mine is set to 10k. But I'll give it a shot to see if it alters anything.



     





    Huh. No don't lower it. How does your preview footage look?

    Exactly the same. Frame rate's perfect, color's nice, but those verticle lines are still prominent.



     

    Well it's not your encoding. Sounds like the capture device or video connection is the culprit.



     



    I just changed my cables hoping to see an improvement. This narrows it down to the odds of having two bad cables (one brand new and freshly removed from packaging) or this lying whore of a beast, the GC500. Leaning to the GC500 as the thing to blame.

     



    Oooh. Amazon users were not kind to the GC500



    http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Multimedia-Definition-Loop-Thr...

     



    Yeah, virtually no one was polite to that thing. Diamond hasn't responded to three emails I sent, either. It's impossible to get a return set it for it.



    BUT I'VE SEEN WHAT OTHERS CAN DO! THAT GUY WITH THE F-ZERO VIDEO! I WANT TO BE LIKE HIM! I haven't bothered to contact the guy because his videos are over a year old, and no new uploads since 2014. That bastard has the key to my success.



    Or Diamond can give me a refund and I can put that toward a Dazzle or Elgato, or something that isn't this thing that supports S-Video.

     



    It wasn't cheap, but I just bought an Elgato HD. It's really nice and they sell a $10 adapter cable for S-video.

     

    Digging through the Elgato site last night and right now. Another aspect of this shitty capture device that captured my eye was the pass through so I could play it on my TV at the same time. Hoping an Elgato can do this with little to no hassle as well.



     
  • Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria



    Check your video bitrate - set it to like 4000 (it's under the encoding tab in settings)



    I always thought more was better? Mine is set to 10k. But I'll give it a shot to see if it alters anything.



     





    Huh. No don't lower it. How does your preview footage look?

    Exactly the same. Frame rate's perfect, color's nice, but those verticle lines are still prominent.



     

    Well it's not your encoding. Sounds like the capture device or video connection is the culprit.



     



    I just changed my cables hoping to see an improvement. This narrows it down to the odds of having two bad cables (one brand new and freshly removed from packaging) or this lying whore of a beast, the GC500. Leaning to the GC500 as the thing to blame.

     



    Oooh. Amazon users were not kind to the GC500



    http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Multimedia-Definition-Loop-Thr...

     



    Yeah, virtually no one was polite to that thing. Diamond hasn't responded to three emails I sent, either. It's impossible to get a return set it for it.



    BUT I'VE SEEN WHAT OTHERS CAN DO! THAT GUY WITH THE F-ZERO VIDEO! I WANT TO BE LIKE HIM! I haven't bothered to contact the guy because his videos are over a year old, and no new uploads since 2014. That bastard has the key to my success.



    Or Diamond can give me a refund and I can put that toward a Dazzle or Elgato, or something that isn't this thing that supports S-Video.

     



    It wasn't cheap, but I just bought an Elgato HD. It's really nice and they sell a $10 adapter cable for S-video.

     

    Digging through the Elgato site last night and right now. Another aspect of this shitty capture device that captured my eye was the pass through so I could play it on my TV at the same time. Hoping an Elgato can do this with little to no hassle as well.



     



    Yes it does. In fact you have to, there's input lag between the PC preview and the TV display.



     
  • Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria

     
    Originally posted by: SixFistedNinja

     
    Originally posted by: Daria



    Check your video bitrate - set it to like 4000 (it's under the encoding tab in settings)



    I always thought more was better? Mine is set to 10k. But I'll give it a shot to see if it alters anything.



     





    Huh. No don't lower it. How does your preview footage look?

    Exactly the same. Frame rate's perfect, color's nice, but those verticle lines are still prominent.



     

    Well it's not your encoding. Sounds like the capture device or video connection is the culprit.



     



    I just changed my cables hoping to see an improvement. This narrows it down to the odds of having two bad cables (one brand new and freshly removed from packaging) or this lying whore of a beast, the GC500. Leaning to the GC500 as the thing to blame.

     



    Oooh. Amazon users were not kind to the GC500



    http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Multimedia-Definition-Loop-Thr...

     



    Yeah, virtually no one was polite to that thing. Diamond hasn't responded to three emails I sent, either. It's impossible to get a return set it for it.



    BUT I'VE SEEN WHAT OTHERS CAN DO! THAT GUY WITH THE F-ZERO VIDEO! I WANT TO BE LIKE HIM! I haven't bothered to contact the guy because his videos are over a year old, and no new uploads since 2014. That bastard has the key to my success.



    Or Diamond can give me a refund and I can put that toward a Dazzle or Elgato, or something that isn't this thing that supports S-Video.

     



    It wasn't cheap, but I just bought an Elgato HD. It's really nice and they sell a $10 adapter cable for S-video.

     

    Digging through the Elgato site last night and right now. Another aspect of this shitty capture device that captured my eye was the pass through so I could play it on my TV at the same time. Hoping an Elgato can do this with little to no hassle as well.



     



    Yes it does. In fact you have to, there's input lag between the PC preview and the TV display.



     





    Well I really got no help in fixing the issue in a way I was hoping, but it looks like I'll be getting an elgato.



    Oh well. Win some, lose some.



    Fact: My account is apparently banned at Diamond now. So I'm just going to paypal and getting the refund through there. Yay.
  • That is some epically shitty customer service.
  • http://www.amazon.com/ION-Video-Analog-Digital-Converter/dp/B002MT7JFQ I have used this since i started making videos but i found better software to use other then the outdated crap it came with, here is what it looks and sounds like

    Just get a s video spillter http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001TPS63I?keywords=s video splitter&qid=1458362835&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

    and for audio use one of these http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RJJ0XW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00 granted it was not made for audio it will work since the wiring is all the same. Now you can record and play on your tv while sending it to your pc to record.
  • or mod your snes for component and use a component capture device and call it a day. actually i used to capture using s video and a pinnacle usb 710. its a pain in the crack to capture with that hardware... in fact, every hardware ive used to capture for old school never works right. You want a true crisp capture? just use an emulator. i know some people are against them but its the best (and cheapest) for picture quality

  • Subscribing to follow along. Probably gonna pick up an ElGato myself. Good luck with your channel SixFistedNinja! I've also subscribed to that! (You go by Drixxel, right?)
  • Originally posted by: Spaceian



    Subscribing to follow along. Probably gonna pick up an ElGato myself. Good luck with your channel SixFistedNinja! I've also subscribed to that! (You go by Drixxel, right?)

    Uh... No? The second video I linked was the only man on the face of the planet able to get clear picture with the GC500 and upload it to youtube.



    It's fine though. The channel I'm currently functioning with is going to be burned to the ground fairly soon. It was there for nothing more than a test subject anyway. After much deliberation and frustration I'll be buying the Elgato this Friday and then continue from there. At least everyone under the sun has an Elgato and it's well documented how to get around these issues.



     
  • Welp... I completely read that post wrong. Please share your channel when you've got it up and running! Or, if you'd want some feedback from some asshole you've never met before and whose opinion should have no real value to you (read: me).
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