Hehe thanks The neat part is that about half of those are the exact copies I bought when I was a lot younger. I kept great care of most of my SNES stuff thankfully. NES... not so much. I guess I grew up a little in between systems.
Personally I won't be using them, nor would I purchase any games that have been graded because I am collecting like Frisbee is. I want to play them so it just wouldn't make sense. At the same time though I have no ill feelings towards them at all. They are providing a service to those that are collecting for the sake of having valuable things, and don't plan on playing them. I guess I don't understand the anger towards VGA. They are an established company that has recognized experts who are providing a measuring stick that everyone can agree on. Like it or not when you are dealing with serious collectors this is needed.
If you want to display your games you just need to buy the regular $15 case they have as mlb7241 said. Why pay extra (at least double) to have some random joe come up with a number off the top of his head and grade it? Seems to good and easy of a business to be true. The VGA are probably laughing all the way to the bank. Who is to say a 85 to you is an 85 to someone else? WTF does 85 even mean? Do they provide any explanation why its 85? No.
Just from this post it is clear to me this thread of yours was posted to bash VGA, not to really engage in thoughtful discussion. These points are off-base and as others have already posted, the guys grading these games have more experience than you can imagine. Also, the grading fee ($24) is only $9 more than the price for a sliding bottom case ($15), not double, and they display better IMO.
i for one, love vga graded games. i trust them and after buying my share of reseals, they give me peace of mind when i am buying a sealed game from an unknown seller. i have many afa graded starwars and gi joe figures, and when afa came along i heard all the same complaints that i hear about vga, but now it is pretty much accepted and trusted by toy collectors, so i have a great deal of respect for the company and the way they conduct business. i am unsure about cib games being graded, but i support graded sealed games 100% and i believe it will continue to grow and become accepted by more and more collectors!!
I agree for the common games, but what about myriad, stadium events, panesians, f2? for the top dollar games it makes sense. You're not easily going to find any of those sealed so a sealed75 may not be an option.
So how many games can we say are in this group? Of that group how many copies really need to be graded? Wouldn't pictures alone be good enough for any auction?
Grading is important on sealed games because it says this is real. It also makes divisions in the highest of qualities for those who want the very best.
Now if we had 50-100 complete copies of Stadium events and only 1 sealed I'd say it could come in handy. That isn't the case.
I just think it's funny how Darksol complains CONSTANTLY about receiving resealed games from sellers but then shuns a service that at it's very base should eliminate that part of the guess work.
In your link, you mention VGA grading a reseal. I say show a picture or a link or you're full of shit. Your negative attitude is tiring...
I am sure you have a PM coming very soon sir. I did not and will not delete your post, but it is my personal opinion that you have worn out your welcome here...
VGA will eliminate nothing. They grade only VERY CLEAR AND OBVIOUS stuff. To cut in short - simple. Have you seen a lot of genesis games graded for example? Well. No. Because they do not even know how to figure a genesis reseal. It's that hard. So better stay away from hard stuff!
Link is long dead it was like a year ago Mark. Noone really cared back then..
and no one really cares now, so why post it? I think your purposes would best be served on that particular site. Obviously people are getting sick of hearing your opinions.
When SegaAge starts up you can go there and bitch about sealed sega genesis games, but until now, keep it Nintendo dude and stop your pissing and moaning.
I am sure you have a PM coming very soon sir. I did not and will not delete your post, but it is my personal opinion that you have worn out your welcome here...
Sir, i am not sure why such a strange behavior all of a sudden? I haven't even started this topic. So please back to topic. I made nothing wrong at all. hardly posted two posts for two days.
It's just funny because, exactly as Mark mentioned, DarkSol has done nothing except complain about reseals and then shuns a service that helps prevent them! Let's face it, can you name ANY sealed collector who has never bought at least one reseal? I doubt it because most people learn through trial and error. So then if a new guy comes along and buys ONLY VGA graded games, how many reseals will they accumulate? Zero.
The service obviously isn't meant for you since you are such an expert, so why complain? Oh I know, because you are jealous that an independent group can charge a fee and actually make money off of a service. How dare they!
It's just funny because, exactly as Mark mentioned, DarkSol has done nothing except complain about reseals and then shuns a service that helps prevent them! Let's face it, can you name ANY sealed collector who has never bought at least one reseal? I doubt it because most people learn through trial and error. So then if a new guy comes along and buys ONLY VGA graded games, how many reseals will they accumulate? Zero.
The service obviously isn't meant for you since you are such an expert, so why complain? Oh I know, because you are jealous that an independent group can charge a fee and actually make money off of a service. How dare they!
Haha! Your first part is absolutely correct! However, the second part is wrong. As a authentication "service" it is a great idea! But unfortunately VGA service is very flawed. Read the link that i posted. And also this link: http://www.sealedgameheaven.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=414 I just don't want to discuss it all again cause some people think that i am "moaning" and "annoying". Ohh.. and i forgot "pissing".
Haha! Your first part is absolutely correct! However, the second part is wrong. As a authentication "service" it is a great idea! But unfortunately VGA service is very flawed. Read the link that i posted. And also this link: http://www.sealedgameheaven.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2...
You do realize the irony of this statement right? You are saying to boycott VGA because someone figured out how to "fake" their seal? Then you might as well boycott sealed collecting because people figured out how to fake those seals a long time ago.
And guess what? There will be a time and a day where fake test carts / NWCs / SEs show up on a regular basis as well and have to be filtered through. Why? Because there is money to be made! Whenever there is a collectible of high value, it is just a matter of time before someone tries to fake it. However, as fakes come and go the community soon learns what to watch for and awareness increases. It's the simple cycle in any collecting community.
Might as well not collect anything at all, if you are scared of fakes in the hobby.
Darksol, that is such a crock of shit. Some member of sealedgameheaven decided to open a VGA case and then claim it had a differnet game in it? Gimme a frickin' break. I don't even have to talk about how sketchy and hard to belive that sounds, even with pictures like Blarky said.
You failed to mention that all the VGA hatred on that sight stems from the fact that some of the morons over at that sight FAILED HORRIBLY at starting their own grading service. hmmmmmm, i wonder if those flakes are bitter?
Your arguments against VGA have so many holes in them it is not even funny, not to mention all the 'proof' you point to is a fucking joke that put even more holes in your argument.
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Super nice! Hard to find boxes in such great shape these days.
If you want to display your games you just need to buy the regular $15 case they have as mlb7241 said. Why pay extra (at least double) to have some random joe come up with a number off the top of his head and grade it? Seems to good and easy of a business to be true. The VGA are probably laughing all the way to the bank. Who is to say a 85 to you is an 85 to someone else? WTF does 85 even mean? Do they provide any explanation why its 85? No.
Just from this post it is clear to me this thread of yours was posted to bash VGA, not to really engage in thoughtful discussion. These points are off-base and as others have already posted, the guys grading these games have more experience than you can imagine. Also, the grading fee ($24) is only $9 more than the price for a sliding bottom case ($15), not double, and they display better IMO.
I agree for the common games, but what about myriad, stadium events, panesians, f2? for the top dollar games it makes sense. You're not easily going to find any of those sealed so a sealed75 may not be an option.
So how many games can we say are in this group? Of that group how many copies really need to be graded? Wouldn't pictures alone be good enough for any auction?
Grading is important on sealed games because it says this is real. It also makes divisions in the highest of qualities for those who want the very best.
Now if we had 50-100 complete copies of Stadium events and only 1 sealed I'd say it could come in handy. That isn't the case.
DVDA is where it's at.
LOL. Awesome. Pure Class!
http://www.sealedgameheaven.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=427
DS, no, probably just some very annoyed mods. You are very annoying and have a very hard time following rules.
In your link, you mention VGA grading a reseal. I say show a picture or a link or you're full of shit. Your negative attitude is tiring...
I guess people react abnormally on my posts. lol.
I am sure you have a PM coming very soon sir. I did not and will not delete your post, but it is my personal opinion that you have worn out your welcome here...
Link is long dead it was like a year ago Mark. Noone really cared back then..
When SegaAge starts up you can go there and bitch about sealed sega genesis games, but until now, keep it Nintendo dude and stop your pissing and moaning.
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I guess people react abnormally on my posts. lol.
I am sure you have a PM coming very soon sir. I did not and will not delete your post, but it is my personal opinion that you have worn out your welcome here...
Sir, i am not sure why such a strange behavior all of a sudden? I haven't even started this topic. So please back to topic. I made nothing wrong at all. hardly posted two posts for two days.
The service obviously isn't meant for you since you are such an expert, so why complain? Oh I know, because you are jealous that an independent group can charge a fee and actually make money off of a service. How dare they!
It's just funny because, exactly as Mark mentioned, DarkSol has done nothing except complain about reseals and then shuns a service that helps prevent them! Let's face it, can you name ANY sealed collector who has never bought at least one reseal? I doubt it because most people learn through trial and error. So then if a new guy comes along and buys ONLY VGA graded games, how many reseals will they accumulate? Zero.
The service obviously isn't meant for you since you are such an expert, so why complain? Oh I know, because you are jealous that an independent group can charge a fee and actually make money off of a service. How dare they!
Your first part is absolutely correct!
However, the second part is wrong. As a authentication "service" it is a great idea! But unfortunately VGA service is very flawed.
Read the link that i posted. And also this link:
http://www.sealedgameheaven.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=414
I just don't want to discuss it all again cause some people think that i am "moaning" and "annoying". Ohh.. and i forgot "pissing".
Haha!
Your first part is absolutely correct!
However, the second part is wrong. As a authentication "service" it is a great idea! But unfortunately VGA service is very flawed.
Read the link that i posted. And also this link:
http://www.sealedgameheaven.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2...
You do realize the irony of this statement right? You are saying to boycott VGA because someone figured out how to "fake" their seal? Then you might as well boycott sealed collecting because people figured out how to fake those seals a long time ago.
And guess what? There will be a time and a day where fake test carts / NWCs / SEs show up on a regular basis as well and have to be filtered through. Why? Because there is money to be made! Whenever there is a collectible of high value, it is just a matter of time before someone tries to fake it. However, as fakes come and go the community soon learns what to watch for and awareness increases. It's the simple cycle in any collecting community.
Might as well not collect anything at all, if you are scared of fakes in the hobby.
Darksol, that is such a crock of shit. Some member of sealedgameheaven decided to open a VGA case and then claim it had a differnet game in it? Gimme a frickin' break. I don't even have to talk about how sketchy and hard to belive that sounds, even with pictures like Blarky said.
You failed to mention that all the VGA hatred on that sight stems from the fact that some of the morons over at that sight FAILED HORRIBLY at starting their own grading service. hmmmmmm, i wonder if those flakes are bitter?
Your arguments against VGA have so many holes in them it is not even funny, not to mention all the 'proof' you point to is a fucking joke that put even more holes in your argument.