I got the NES spines only at Staples. I provided the card stock, but I believe it came out to about $40.
I agree with MrWonderful and ask around for a bulk discount.
This sounds like a great idea. Did you edit the files yourself to do "spines only" or is there a collection somewhere? I've considered using rectangular adhesive labels to do tops only so that I could save a lot of shelf space.
I just found that regular copy paper isn't very good. Maybe it is my printer?
I did not like the quality of regular paper. I used card stock. Staples printed out the spines for me and they came out very nice. I doubt my printer would get the same quality.
The cost was part of the reason why I went for CIB.
I ended up paying less for the box and manuals quite a few of my N64 games, than it would have cost to put them all in printed UGC's.
Buying UGCs in bulk, the raw cases are probably $0.50/each, maybe less, given the *absurd* quantity CZroe bought in one go. (sucks for you canadian guys, though)
Even photo-grade inserts should be less than $2/each.
But DIY on a color laser, with decent paper is probably $0.50/each, there, as well.
I would discuss it with a commercial printer to see if you can get a bulk discount. Either way its going to be pricey.
There are lots of commercial printers that won't be willing to print this kind of content due to copyright concerns.
Yup, even stores like Staples might give you a hard time. I worked there as a supervisor some years back and the policy is they aren't supposed to make any prints if there is copyrighted content.
I could be wrong but you may be able to get around this by claiming its for a school project, this way it falls under fair use.
I would discuss it with a commercial printer to see if you can get a bulk discount. Either way its going to be pricey.
There are lots of commercial printers that won't be willing to print this kind of content due to copyright concerns.
Yup, even stores like Staples might give you a hard time. I worked there as a supervisor some years back and the policy is they aren't supposed to make any prints if there is copyrighted content.
I could be wrong but you may be able to get around this by claiming its for a school project, this way it falls under fair use.
Actually, Fair Use only applies as a defense in court, it doesn't supercede a companies policy of refusing to print copyrighted material.
I'd also use the print to PDF method, meaning print the inserts into a few PDF files, so it's easier for the shop to just hit ctrl-p and walk away. Opening 1200 files to print would not get you a discount
The cost was part of the reason why I went for CIB.
I ended up paying less for the box and manuals quite a few of my N64 games, than it would have cost to put them all in printed UGC's.
Buying UGCs in bulk, the raw cases are probably $0.50/each, maybe less, given the *absurd* quantity CZroe bought in one go. (sucks for you canadian guys, though)
Even photo-grade inserts should be less than $2/each.
But DIY on a color laser, with decent paper is probably $0.50/each, there, as well.
So $1-$2/each, for his entire library.
I use a light weight paper since the UGCs have plastic coverings, and bleedthrough wasn't an issue, so for me it was:
4 carts of each color for $11 and I know I get more than 20 prints out of each of them, so that's about $.13/print in ink. For my portables, I spend about $1.50/case including printing.
By far the bulk of my cost is in shipping of UGCs.
I would discuss it with a commercial printer to see if you can get a bulk discount. Either way its going to be pricey.
There are lots of commercial printers that won't be willing to print this kind of content due to copyright concerns.
Yup, even stores like Staples might give you a hard time. I worked there as a supervisor some years back and the policy is they aren't supposed to make any prints if there is copyrighted content.
I could be wrong but you may be able to get around this by claiming its for a school project, this way it falls under fair use.
Actually, Fair Use only applies as a defense in court, it doesn't supercede a companies policy of refusing to print copyrighted material.
It says right in that document that educational purposes fall under fair use. You're allowed to use copyrighted materials for education and parody. I'm not saying that a commercial printer can't refuse to print copyrighted materials. I'm just saying the education excuse could be enough to persuade a hesitant printer.
Still, it may be difficult to convince someone that 400 Nintendo labels are for a school project!
I would discuss it with a commercial printer to see if you can get a bulk discount. Either way its going to be pricey.
There are lots of commercial printers that won't be willing to print this kind of content due to copyright concerns.
Yup, even stores like Staples might give you a hard time. I worked there as a supervisor some years back and the policy is they aren't supposed to make any prints if there is copyrighted content.
I could be wrong but you may be able to get around this by claiming its for a school project, this way it falls under fair use.
Actually, Fair Use only applies as a defense in court, it doesn't supercede a companies policy of refusing to print copyrighted material.
It says right in that document that educational purposes fall under fair use. You're allowed to use copyrighted materials for education, uses of parody, and education. I'm not saying that a commercial printer can't refuse to print copyrighted materials. I'm just saying the education excuse could be enough to persuade a hesitant printer.
Still, it may be difficult to convince someone that 400 Nintendo labels are for a school project!
When I did the spine labels I told them they were for my personal collection. They thought it was cool, quoted me a price, printed and done deal!
I would discuss it with a commercial printer to see if you can get a bulk discount. Either way its going to be pricey.
There are lots of commercial printers that won't be willing to print this kind of content due to copyright concerns.
Yup, even stores like Staples might give you a hard time. I worked there as a supervisor some years back and the policy is they aren't supposed to make any prints if there is copyrighted content.
I could be wrong but you may be able to get around this by claiming its for a school project, this way it falls under fair use.
So your legal defense would be lying about your intent?
I would discuss it with a commercial printer to see if you can get a bulk discount. Either way its going to be pricey.
There are lots of commercial printers that won't be willing to print this kind of content due to copyright concerns.
Yup, even stores like Staples might give you a hard time. I worked there as a supervisor some years back and the policy is they aren't supposed to make any prints if there is copyrighted content.
I could be wrong but you may be able to get around this by claiming its for a school project, this way it falls under fair use.
So your legal defense would be lying about your intent?
It says right in that document that educational purposes fall under fair use. You're allowed to use copyrighted materials for education and parody. I'm not saying that a commercial printer can't refuse to print copyrighted materials. I'm just saying the education excuse could be enough to persuade a hesitant printer.
Still, it may be difficult to convince someone that 400 Nintendo labels are for a school project!
You can use copyrighted material any way you want, doesn't mean it falls under Fair Use. It is determined by a judge on a case-by-case basis. Just because you used something for educational purposes doesn't automatically mean it is deemed Fair Use.
He could use it for his personal collection aslong as he's not doing it for financial gain and it can fall under Fair Use. The point is, those are factors looked at in regards to if something MAY be deemed Fair Use. You could even break all four and if a judge says 'Fair Use' then it's Fair Use.
The problem a lot of people have with the Fair Use doctrine is that they think they can do anything with copyrighted material and claim Fair Use, but that's not how it works. Only a judge can decide if your use of copyrighted material falls under fair use. Also, if a store has a strict "no copyrighted material" policy, no excuse is to change their mind. If they do it that's fine, but if word gets out then some employees, assuming they have a zero tolerance boss, may get shitcanned.
I sure wouldn't want my project leading to someone losing their job, nor would I be promoting someone to lie to try to circumvent company policy.
You might need to bide your time for a couple of months, but I've been pretty happy with the Dell color laser that I picked up via Fatwallet for $100, a couple months back.
Any specific models to recommend?
I've had very bad results with the color lasers I've had/used in the past. It seems that some (like my HO Color LaserJet) only do color so you can have color graphics and text, but not images and photographs. I'm not familiar enough with what brands/models work best and I know from experience that some are still ridiculously expensive to operate (spent over $100 on one color of toner just to find out that it still can't print decent images).
i know a lot of ink jets have the tendency to fade in a short time, which would make all the expense and effort even more ludicrous, so I hope for a recommendation to avoid that as well.
The $100 model I bought was supposedly marked down from $400, so that is the "natural price point" for decent entry-level color laser printers.
It's an all-in-one. Don't recall the specific model.
I test copied something that was varied and colorful, and the output was photo-quality, so I have no complaints about the actual print quality for images.
Color laser toner shouldn't have any fading issues, either, since it is fusing pigment to the page in a different way than how ink saturates.
(instead, if you had something that folds-and-unfolds you'll get "cracking" where the stress points break the toner free)
My office has had Xerox and HP color laser units, and they both do great photo quality, as well, from what I've seen.
This is what I ordered: Dell™ E525W Color Laser All-in-One Printer
It was on sale via "Quill.com", promoted via Fatwallet. (looking at the old receipt it was actually $130 shipped)
And supposedly you can get generic toner packs for it for $40 on eBay that review well.
I'm sure it's not a once-in-a-lifetime type of deal, so as long as you can wait a couple of months to keep an eye on sites like Fatwallet/Rakuten, Newegg, etc, you can probably find something for < $200 that is worth using.
If it's not URGENT, I'd be happy to test print a couple of covers for you, if you want to send specific image files my way, and let you see how they turn out.
I ended up with two Ricoh CDN250 or C250DN or whatever color laser printer and an incredible Epson Stylus Pro 3880 (MSRP $1,300 but I got it for $10 ) which held me off until I found a $20 Dell E525W at Goodwill today. It looks like someone just used up all the black (K) toner and donated it. Sweet!
After a few years with it, what advice do you have for supplies and refills? Thanks again for the suggestion!
The Ricoh printers are easy to refill but the image quality leaves a lot to be desired. They were $70 each though so I can’t complain.
You might need to bide your time for a couple of months, but I've been pretty happy with the Dell color laser that I picked up via Fatwallet for $100, a couple months back.
Any specific models to recommend?
I've had very bad results with the color lasers I've had/used in the past. It seems that some (like my HO Color LaserJet) only do color so you can have color graphics and text, but not images and photographs. I'm not familiar enough with what brands/models work best and I know from experience that some are still ridiculously expensive to operate (spent over $100 on one color of toner just to find out that it still can't print decent images).
i know a lot of ink jets have the tendency to fade in a short time, which would make all the expense and effort even more ludicrous, so I hope for a recommendation to avoid that as well.
The $100 model I bought was supposedly marked down from $400, so that is the "natural price point" for decent entry-level color laser printers.
It's an all-in-one. Don't recall the specific model.
I test copied something that was varied and colorful, and the output was photo-quality, so I have no complaints about the actual print quality for images.
Color laser toner shouldn't have any fading issues, either, since it is fusing pigment to the page in a different way than how ink saturates.
(instead, if you had something that folds-and-unfolds you'll get "cracking" where the stress points break the toner free)
My office has had Xerox and HP color laser units, and they both do great photo quality, as well, from what I've seen.
Yeah, I'm hoping to just refill the Dell OEM carts that are already in there and replace or reset the chip. Hopefully that will ensure a good seal since it is OEM. It looks like black toner prices are all over the map despite some of the cheaper stuff having big claims ("best Japanese," "so close/good you can mix with OEM," etc) so I hope I make the right choice here. I assume it's supposed to be a bit glossy, right? The expensive stuff makes a big deal about being glossy.
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I got the NES spines only at Staples. I provided the card stock, but I believe it came out to about $40.
I agree with MrWonderful and ask around for a bulk discount.
This sounds like a great idea. Did you edit the files yourself to do "spines only" or is there a collection somewhere? I've considered using rectangular adhesive labels to do tops only so that I could save a lot of shelf space.
http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&thr... These are for the OEM Clamshells not UGC. When I measured, there was a difference in measurement. GBC did me the favor of resizing!
Thanks! I'm going to check and see how close the spine of a NES clamshell and the top of a UGC line up.
I wanted spine only. I prefer seeing the cart as opposed to a cover. Just a personal preference I guess. It also saved on printing...
Would love to print my own but finding quality paper in the sizes for UCG is rough.
Don't you just print them on legal-size and trim them down?
I just found that regular copy paper isn't very good. Maybe it is my printer?
I did not like the quality of regular paper. I used card stock. Staples printed out the spines for me and they came out very nice. I doubt my printer would get the same quality.
I just found that regular copy paper isn't very good. Maybe it is my printer?
You can get legal paper in most weights and compositions, just like letter.
It's more expensive, per page, but it's readily available.
I ended up paying less for the box and manuals quite a few of my N64 games, than it would have cost to put them all in printed UGC's.
The cost was part of the reason why I went for CIB.
I ended up paying less for the box and manuals quite a few of my N64 games, than it would have cost to put them all in printed UGC's.
I really do not see how that would be cheaper, but either way, I prefer something more durable. I would probably crush a box or something.
The cost was part of the reason why I went for CIB.
I ended up paying less for the box and manuals quite a few of my N64 games, than it would have cost to put them all in printed UGC's.
I really do not see how that would be cheaper, but either way, I prefer something more durable. I would probably crush a box or something.
Guess I should add that shipping that much bulk to Canada isn't cheap.
The UGC with printed inserts were going to be ~$3-4CDN. There are quite a few of the boxes and manuals that I have picked up for less than that.
Originally posted by: rdools
The cost was part of the reason why I went for CIB.
I ended up paying less for the box and manuals quite a few of my N64 games, than it would have cost to put them all in printed UGC's.
Buying UGCs in bulk, the raw cases are probably $0.50/each, maybe less, given the *absurd* quantity CZroe bought in one go. (sucks for you canadian guys, though)
Even photo-grade inserts should be less than $2/each.
But DIY on a color laser, with decent paper is probably $0.50/each, there, as well.
So $1-$2/each, for his entire library.
I would discuss it with a commercial printer to see if you can get a bulk discount. Either way its going to be pricey.
There are lots of commercial printers that won't be willing to print this kind of content due to copyright concerns.
Yup, even stores like Staples might give you a hard time. I worked there as a supervisor some years back and the policy is they aren't supposed to make any prints if there is copyrighted content.
I could be wrong but you may be able to get around this by claiming its for a school project, this way it falls under fair use.
I would discuss it with a commercial printer to see if you can get a bulk discount. Either way its going to be pricey.
There are lots of commercial printers that won't be willing to print this kind of content due to copyright concerns.
Yup, even stores like Staples might give you a hard time. I worked there as a supervisor some years back and the policy is they aren't supposed to make any prints if there is copyrighted content.
I could be wrong but you may be able to get around this by claiming its for a school project, this way it falls under fair use.
Actually, Fair Use only applies as a defense in court, it doesn't supercede a companies policy of refusing to print copyrighted material.
You can learn more about Fair Use here:
http://www.copyrightlaws.com/us/5-essential-facts-about-fair-use/
The cost was part of the reason why I went for CIB.
I ended up paying less for the box and manuals quite a few of my N64 games, than it would have cost to put them all in printed UGC's.
Buying UGCs in bulk, the raw cases are probably $0.50/each, maybe less, given the *absurd* quantity CZroe bought in one go. (sucks for you canadian guys, though)
Even photo-grade inserts should be less than $2/each.
But DIY on a color laser, with decent paper is probably $0.50/each, there, as well.
So $1-$2/each, for his entire library.
I use a light weight paper since the UGCs have plastic coverings, and bleedthrough wasn't an issue, so for me it was:
http://www.redrivercatalog.com/browse/32lb-premium-gloss.html 100 sheets 8.5x11 $23.99 $.24/page
or
http://www.redrivercatalog.com/browse/32lb-premium-gloss.html 100 sheets 8.5x14 $32.19 $.32/page
So for a UGC, about $.32 a page in paper, and ink I've been buying these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0062S4B8Q/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
4 carts of each color for $11 and I know I get more than 20 prints out of each of them, so that's about $.13/print in ink. For my portables, I spend about $1.50/case including printing.
By far the bulk of my cost is in shipping of UGCs.
I would discuss it with a commercial printer to see if you can get a bulk discount. Either way its going to be pricey.
There are lots of commercial printers that won't be willing to print this kind of content due to copyright concerns.
Yup, even stores like Staples might give you a hard time. I worked there as a supervisor some years back and the policy is they aren't supposed to make any prints if there is copyrighted content.
I could be wrong but you may be able to get around this by claiming its for a school project, this way it falls under fair use.
Actually, Fair Use only applies as a defense in court, it doesn't supercede a companies policy of refusing to print copyrighted material.
You can learn more about Fair Use here:
http://www.copyrightlaws.com/us/5...
It says right in that document that educational purposes fall under fair use. You're allowed to use copyrighted materials for education and parody. I'm not saying that a commercial printer can't refuse to print copyrighted materials. I'm just saying the education excuse could be enough to persuade a hesitant printer.
Still, it may be difficult to convince someone that 400 Nintendo labels are for a school project!
I would discuss it with a commercial printer to see if you can get a bulk discount. Either way its going to be pricey.
There are lots of commercial printers that won't be willing to print this kind of content due to copyright concerns.
Yup, even stores like Staples might give you a hard time. I worked there as a supervisor some years back and the policy is they aren't supposed to make any prints if there is copyrighted content.
I could be wrong but you may be able to get around this by claiming its for a school project, this way it falls under fair use.
Actually, Fair Use only applies as a defense in court, it doesn't supercede a companies policy of refusing to print copyrighted material.
You can learn more about Fair Use here:
http://www.copyrightlaws.com/us/5-essential-facts-about-fair...
It says right in that document that educational purposes fall under fair use. You're allowed to use copyrighted materials for education, uses of parody, and education. I'm not saying that a commercial printer can't refuse to print copyrighted materials. I'm just saying the education excuse could be enough to persuade a hesitant printer.
Still, it may be difficult to convince someone that 400 Nintendo labels are for a school project!
When I did the spine labels I told them they were for my personal collection. They thought it was cool, quoted me a price, printed and done deal!
I would discuss it with a commercial printer to see if you can get a bulk discount. Either way its going to be pricey.
There are lots of commercial printers that won't be willing to print this kind of content due to copyright concerns.
Yup, even stores like Staples might give you a hard time. I worked there as a supervisor some years back and the policy is they aren't supposed to make any prints if there is copyrighted content.
I could be wrong but you may be able to get around this by claiming its for a school project, this way it falls under fair use.
So your legal defense would be lying about your intent?
I would discuss it with a commercial printer to see if you can get a bulk discount. Either way its going to be pricey.
There are lots of commercial printers that won't be willing to print this kind of content due to copyright concerns.
Yup, even stores like Staples might give you a hard time. I worked there as a supervisor some years back and the policy is they aren't supposed to make any prints if there is copyrighted content.
I could be wrong but you may be able to get around this by claiming its for a school project, this way it falls under fair use.
So your legal defense would be lying about your intent?
I keep it gangster
It says right in that document that educational purposes fall under fair use. You're allowed to use copyrighted materials for education and parody. I'm not saying that a commercial printer can't refuse to print copyrighted materials. I'm just saying the education excuse could be enough to persuade a hesitant printer.
Still, it may be difficult to convince someone that 400 Nintendo labels are for a school project!
You can use copyrighted material any way you want, doesn't mean it falls under Fair Use. It is determined by a judge on a case-by-case basis. Just because you used something for educational purposes doesn't automatically mean it is deemed Fair Use.
He could use it for his personal collection aslong as he's not doing it for financial gain and it can fall under Fair Use. The point is, those are factors looked at in regards to if something MAY be deemed Fair Use. You could even break all four and if a judge says 'Fair Use' then it's Fair Use.
The problem a lot of people have with the Fair Use doctrine is that they think they can do anything with copyrighted material and claim Fair Use, but that's not how it works. Only a judge can decide if your use of copyrighted material falls under fair use. Also, if a store has a strict "no copyrighted material" policy, no excuse is to change their mind. If they do it that's fine, but if word gets out then some employees, assuming they have a zero tolerance boss, may get shitcanned.
I sure wouldn't want my project leading to someone losing their job, nor would I be promoting someone to lie to try to circumvent company policy.
Send messages to a bunch of those guys on ebay shilling "Custom Cases" and ask them the model of printer and paper type they use.
I wouldn't expect an honest answer because they know you can easily undercut them with that info.
Just find a cheap color-laser and print yourself.
You might need to bide your time for a couple of months, but I've been pretty happy with the Dell color laser that I picked up via Fatwallet for $100, a couple months back.
Any specific models to recommend?
I've had very bad results with the color lasers I've had/used in the past. It seems that some (like my HO Color LaserJet) only do color so you can have color graphics and text, but not images and photographs. I'm not familiar enough with what brands/models work best and I know from experience that some are still ridiculously expensive to operate (spent over $100 on one color of toner just to find out that it still can't print decent images).
i know a lot of ink jets have the tendency to fade in a short time, which would make all the expense and effort even more ludicrous, so I hope for a recommendation to avoid that as well.
The $100 model I bought was supposedly marked down from $400, so that is the "natural price point" for decent entry-level color laser printers.
It's an all-in-one. Don't recall the specific model.
I test copied something that was varied and colorful, and the output was photo-quality, so I have no complaints about the actual print quality for images.
Color laser toner shouldn't have any fading issues, either, since it is fusing pigment to the page in a different way than how ink saturates.
(instead, if you had something that folds-and-unfolds you'll get "cracking" where the stress points break the toner free)
My office has had Xerox and HP color laser units, and they both do great photo quality, as well, from what I've seen.
This is what I ordered: Dell™ E525W Color Laser All-in-One Printer
It was on sale via "Quill.com", promoted via Fatwallet. (looking at the old receipt it was actually $130 shipped)
And supposedly you can get generic toner packs for it for $40 on eBay that review well.
I'm sure it's not a once-in-a-lifetime type of deal, so as long as you can wait a couple of months to keep an eye on sites like Fatwallet/Rakuten, Newegg, etc, you can probably find something for < $200 that is worth using.
If it's not URGENT, I'd be happy to test print a couple of covers for you, if you want to send specific image files my way, and let you see how they turn out.
I ended up with two Ricoh CDN250 or C250DN or whatever color laser printer and an incredible Epson Stylus Pro 3880 (MSRP $1,300 but I got it for $10 ) which held me off until I found a $20 Dell E525W at Goodwill today. It looks like someone just used up all the black (K) toner and donated it. Sweet!
After a few years with it, what advice do you have for supplies and refills? Thanks again for the suggestion!
The Ricoh printers are easy to refill but the image quality leaves a lot to be desired. They were $70 each though so I can’t complain.
Just find a cheap color-laser and print yourself.
You might need to bide your time for a couple of months, but I've been pretty happy with the Dell color laser that I picked up via Fatwallet for $100, a couple months back.
Any specific models to recommend?
I've had very bad results with the color lasers I've had/used in the past. It seems that some (like my HO Color LaserJet) only do color so you can have color graphics and text, but not images and photographs. I'm not familiar enough with what brands/models work best and I know from experience that some are still ridiculously expensive to operate (spent over $100 on one color of toner just to find out that it still can't print decent images).
i know a lot of ink jets have the tendency to fade in a short time, which would make all the expense and effort even more ludicrous, so I hope for a recommendation to avoid that as well.
The $100 model I bought was supposedly marked down from $400, so that is the "natural price point" for decent entry-level color laser printers.
It's an all-in-one. Don't recall the specific model.
I test copied something that was varied and colorful, and the output was photo-quality, so I have no complaints about the actual print quality for images.
Color laser toner shouldn't have any fading issues, either, since it is fusing pigment to the page in a different way than how ink saturates.
(instead, if you had something that folds-and-unfolds you'll get "cracking" where the stress points break the toner free)
My office has had Xerox and HP color laser units, and they both do great photo quality, as well, from what I've seen.
This is what I ordered: Dell