Yeah I don't know how interested the serious collectors will be (aside from the novelty of it perhaps), but I bet that will be a hot item this holiday, so good move Nintendo.
I'm definitely still getting the AVS, and will grab the NES Mini too. I'll keep my AVS in the room with my modern consoles and keep the NES Mini in my living room where I won't have any other systems hooked up.
That's a pretty good mix for preloads, I can actually see getting this for my parents to play. My mother is enjoying the 3DS I gave her to play SMB on, so this would be a nice solution for big screen gaming.
Wow, I like that NES Mini. My collection has always been Sega focused, but I held onto a NES with the intent of playing Zelda I and II. I'm definitely not willing to buy carts for the NES since I don't collect it. Sure I could emulate in other ways, but this seems pretty neat! Castlevania, Metroid, Mega Man 2, Kirby, its got most of the games I'd be curious about playing without forking over large amounts to do it. Plus it'll look better on my TV than the old NES one, since I don't have any special setup for it. I'm sold!
Initial discussion of, "How will this affect the AVS?" was on target, but we've moved into discussing solely what games are on the NES mini.
I think initially this may slow down AVS sales, but once people buy it and figure out hey I only got 30 games, they'll end up missing one of their favs that's not included and end up with a AVS, at least that's my hope.
Initial discussion of, "How will this affect the AVS?" was on target, but we've moved into discussing solely what games are on the NES mini.
I think initially this may slow down AVS sales, but once people buy it and figure out hey I only got 30 games, they'll end up missing one of their favs that's not included and end up with a AVS, at least that's my hope.
My hope would be that for serious collectors and gamers, the AVS has enough extra to offer to justify the price difference.
Scoreboard, alone, is a big value-added proposition, before you even get into the fact that the AVS is cartridge compatible and supports stuff like the PowerPak or Everdrive.
But for the more casual set, $60 for 30 of the most popular titles, offered directly from Nintendo (and thus appearing in major retailers) is going to appeal to some.
It's a damn shame that Brian wasn't able to get his system to market right after everybody realized how shitty the Retron5 was.
(though that said, the people in the market for a $150-$200 console are not the same core market for a $60 console of this type)
Won't affect sales at all. Emulator boxes are already available for cheaper than the AVS, so someone buying on price was already out. For anyone playing carts this NES mini isn't an option. Genesis/Atari/Coleco/Intv flashbacks haven't significantly affected console demand so I doubt this will either.
I don't think the core market for this device (other than people buying for the Wii controllers) was likely to directly overlap with AVS, in a way that cuts down your sales.
But I think there might be a valid concern with regards to news of the AVS getting less coverage than it otherwise could have, just in terms of a sort of competition-for-publicity, with news like this getting broader coverage.
(then again, maybe the opposite will be true, and the pumps being primed with this type of retro news will ultimately be to your benefit)
the NES mini is sort of in its own category separate from the multi-slot emulator boxes... The category that it shares with AVS is "box with a design that invokes nostalgia for the original console and plays NES games in HD"... not having a cartridge slot is obviously takes it out of direct competition though.
I don't think it will make a big difference in AVS sales. The NES Mini is going to appeal to casual fans that don't have an actual NES cart library. They're limited to 30 popular titles, and that is gonna be enough for most. I don't think they were ever the target audience for the AVS to begin with, especially with the rising cost of NES games.
However, for NES collectors and enthusiasts, the NES Mini doesn't fill the hole. The only real alternative are inferior clone systems.
I'm buying the AVS solely because the NES mini doesn't have Batman. That's a crime against humanity.
I like the game lineup of the mini, but there are so many more games out there, some that will probably never see a commercial release ever again. Not to mention I want to get into Famicom, and the AVS is an easy way in.
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I will take an LE.
I want an RE edition with a clear lid, so I can play Xmas 2016 with the lid closed!
An official mini retro HDMI NES scheduled for November 11 for only $60.
First note that it does NOT accept NES carts or added games (at least for now).
Comes loaded with 30 classic games.
One thing I'm excited for is getting new official NES controllers for $10 (I can probably mod them to work on other NES's if necessary).
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/07/nintendo_entertainment_system_nes_classic_edition_coming_this_november_ships_with_30_games
Originally posted by: zeronoin
So looks like Nintendo is actually bringing a little competition here (sorta).
An official mini retro HDMI NES scheduled for November 11 for only $60.
First note that it does NOT accept NES carts or added games (at least for now).
Comes loaded with 30 classic games.
One thing I'm excited for is getting new official NES controllers for $10 (I can probably mod them to work on other NES's if necessary).
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/...
the ports are the same as the Wiimote ports for nunchucks/classic controllers, so for $10 you can have one for the Wii/U Virtual Console as well!
Because this NES Mini is cheap, I'll likely get it too for the novelty since it cannot accept additional games.
I imagine people will find a way to hack in other games.
But the system's output will probably more resemble an emulator than an actual NES.
But, again, cheap and probably (hopefully) good replacement controllers.
I will also be interested to see how RetroUSB's controllers turn out.
But the system's output will probably more resemble an emulator than an actual NES.
I'm thinking it's probably using an ARM processor or something. I can't really see them using an actual NOAC given how the clones fare with them.
Question too is Nintendo going to stick with that horribly dark Virtual Console color palette.
That was my first thought I always hated the VC nes emulator.
I can imagine the 30 titles will be...
SMB 1-3
Mario Bros
Wrecking Crew
Dr Mario
DK, Dk Jr, Dk 3
Zelda 1 and 2
Kirby
Ice Climber
Metroid
Punch Out
Warios Woods
Balloon Fight
Yoshi
Yoshi Cookie
Pinball
An maybe the rest would be the NES first party sports games like excite bike, slalom, nes play action football, super spike vball, tennis, golf, etc.
Awesome.
I can imagine the 30 titles will be...
SMB 1-3
Mario Bros
Wrecking Crew
Dr Mario
DK, Dk Jr, Dk 3
Zelda 1 and 2
Kirby
Ice Climber
Metroid
Punch Out
Warios Woods
Balloon Fight
Yoshi
Yoshi Cookie
Pinball
An maybe the rest would be the NES first party sports games like excite bike, slalom, nes play action football, super spike chalk, tennis, golf, etc.
Pretty close:
The console arrives on the 11th November and will come with 30 pre-loaded titles:
That's a heck of a lot of licensing when they could have just use their own library. That's a really awesome box!
Needs more Contra though, and I'm surprised they even remembered about Star Tropics.
Oh wow, they went all out and got third parties involved! Tecmo, Namco, Konami, Taito, Bandai, Capcom, Tradewest, and Square.
That's a heck of a lot of licensing when they could have just use their own library. That's a really awesome box!
Needs more Contra though, and I'm surprised they even remembered about Star Tropics.
It's a shame they couldn't get Castlevania 3 or more Mega Man on there, but as far as variety goes yeah they put some effort into the selection.
Oh wow, they went all out and got third parties involved! Tecmo, Namco, Konami, Taito, Bandai, Capcom, Acclaim, and Square.
Fixed it for you.
But actually I think they got the rights to DDII from Technōs.
Initial discussion of, "How will this affect the AVS?" was on target, but we've moved into discussing solely what games are on the NES mini.
I'm surprised there's no Tetris on there though
Alrighty, there's a thread to discuss the NES mini: http://nintendoage.com/forum/mess...
Initial discussion of, "How will this affect the AVS?" was on target, but we've moved into discussing solely what games are on the NES mini.
I think initially this may slow down AVS sales, but once people buy it and figure out hey I only got 30 games, they'll end up missing one of their favs that's not included and end up with a AVS, at least that's my hope.
Alrighty, there's a thread to discuss the NES mini: http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?StartRow=1&...
Initial discussion of, "How will this affect the AVS?" was on target, but we've moved into discussing solely what games are on the NES mini.
I think initially this may slow down AVS sales, but once people buy it and figure out hey I only got 30 games, they'll end up missing one of their favs that's not included and end up with a AVS, at least that's my hope.
My hope would be that for serious collectors and gamers, the AVS has enough extra to offer to justify the price difference.
Scoreboard, alone, is a big value-added proposition, before you even get into the fact that the AVS is cartridge compatible and supports stuff like the PowerPak or Everdrive.
But for the more casual set, $60 for 30 of the most popular titles, offered directly from Nintendo (and thus appearing in major retailers) is going to appeal to some.
It's a damn shame that Brian wasn't able to get his system to market right after everybody realized how shitty the Retron5 was.
(though that said, the people in the market for a $150-$200 console are not the same core market for a $60 console of this type)
Won't affect sales at all.
Yeah, I revised the nature of my comment.
I don't think the core market for this device (other than people buying for the Wii controllers) was likely to directly overlap with AVS, in a way that cuts down your sales.
But I think there might be a valid concern with regards to news of the AVS getting less coverage than it otherwise could have, just in terms of a sort of competition-for-publicity, with news like this getting broader coverage.
(then again, maybe the opposite will be true, and the pumps being primed with this type of retro news will ultimately be to your benefit)
However, for NES collectors and enthusiasts, the NES Mini doesn't fill the hole. The only real alternative are inferior clone systems.
I like the game lineup of the mini, but there are so many more games out there, some that will probably never see a commercial release ever again. Not to mention I want to get into Famicom, and the AVS is an easy way in.