Hopefully the fact that these are actually NES games, coupled with the "more authentic" controller will help the gameplay.
My main concern is the pads inside the controllers. Authentic NES pads had substantial rubber and were very resilient. Knockoffs had crap that wore out in weeks.
No doubt. All the knockoff crap is just that... crap.
Time will tell.
The Top Loader NES was only $49.99 when it launched in 1993, and those controllers are very nice.
If this is the hot item for Christmas, I would think it would be highly likely that there will be a NES Mini 2.0 released late next year with more games. I would suggest it would be a tad too ambitious to hope for internet connectivity and adding games, not at $60.
The more I think about it,the more I think the nes mini 2.0 (if they make another) will be the top loader.
you know, that would actually be a pretty brilliant move. Collectors who are into it wouldnt think twice about it compared to the exact same thing with more games. Then do a Famicom with some Japanese exclusives translated and you have three different machines with many different games between the three, they would all sell. Then move on to SNES. Edit: as long as they leave enough time in between that people don't burn out on them
Hopefully the fact that these are actually NES games, coupled with the "more authentic" controller will help the gameplay.
My main concern is the pads inside the controllers. Authentic NES pads had substantial rubber and were very resilient. Knockoffs had crap that wore out in weeks.
No doubt. All the knockoff crap is just that... crap.
Time will tell.
The Top Loader NES was only $49.99 when it launched in 1993, and those controllers are very nice.
I would think the controllers will be pretty decent.
Originally posted by: BertBerryCrunch
Originally posted by: gutsman004
Originally posted by: Great Hierophant
If this is the hot item for Christmas, I would think it would be highly likely that there will be a NES Mini 2.0 released late next year with more games. I would suggest it would be a tad too ambitious to hope for internet connectivity and adding games, not at $60.
The more I think about it,the more I think the nes mini 2.0 (if they make another) will be the top loader.
you know, that would actually be a pretty brilliant move. Collectors who are into it wouldnt think twice about it compared to the exact same thing with more games. Then do a Famicom with some Japanese exclusives translated and you have three different machines with many different games between the three, they would all sell. Then move on to SNES
The Atari and Sega Flashbacks from atgames has noticeable flaws in their emulation. They also output composite AV only. The Atari system has 100 games and a price of $45.00, the Sega system has 40 real games and the same price. An Atari game costs $.45, a Sega game costs $0.88 and a NES game costs $2.00.
If this is the hot item for Christmas, I would think it would be highly likely that there will be a NES Mini 2.0 released late next year with more games. I would suggest it would be a tad too ambitious to hope for internet connectivity and adding games, not at $60.
The more I think about it,the more I think the nes mini 2.0 (if they make another) will be the top loader.
you know, that would actually be a pretty brilliant move. Collectors who are into it wouldnt think twice about it compared to the exact same thing with more games. Then do a Famicom with some Japanese exclusives translated and you have three different machines with many different games between the three, they would all sell. Then move on to SNES. Edit: as long as they leave enough time in between that people don't burn out on them
I don't think they'll do a top loader design. Not enough mainstream nostalgia for those, and they'd need new tooling for the dogbones in addtion to the mini console. More likely, in 2017 they do an SNES along with an NES Mini 2 with some new exclusive games on it.
If they make a Famicom variant for Japanese markets, I would do my dead level best to import it. It's sure to get at least a few Famicom exclusive gems like Devil World, Bio Miracle Upa (FDS), or SMB2 Japan version (lost Levels). Also some great exclusive shooters used the Konami VRC4 mapper if ther emulator suports it. Parodius, anyone?
Originally posted by: Reed Solomon
Originally posted by: dahlmahl
But this NES thing is at a much higher price point than any flashback
Most people nowadays have little to no love for console games pre-Nintendo. Nintendo can charge a premium and get away with it.
Originally posted by: Great Hierophant
The Atari and Sega Flashbacks from atgames has noticeable flaws in their emulation. They also output composite AV only. The Atari system has 100 games and a price of $45.00, the Sega system has 40 real games and the same price. An Atari game costs $.45, a Sega game costs $0.88 and a NES game costs $2.00.
The fact that there have been a grand total of seven Atari Flashbacks released between Jakks Pacific and Atgames, shows that there is nostalgia for Atari. Nintendo is sitting on a goldmine.
As for price per game title, $.45, $.88, and $2.00, that sounds about right. As an Atari collector, the vintage games for the most part are a dime a dozen, and you get a few minutes of gameplay out of them. My ADHD self could swap them out all day long spending 5 minutes or less per game. NES games are much larger and more expansive, for instance one could spend multiple hours playing through Legend of Zelda, SMB3, or Kirby's Adventure.
So the fact that the NES Mini has fewer games is not a deal breaker because you get far more gameplay value per game.
But this NES thing is at a much higher price point than any flashback
Most people nowadays have little to no love for console games pre-Nintendo. Nintendo can charge a premium and get away with it.
But it would still be horrible to keep having to buy these things for a different selection of games.
Of course they'll save a few exclusives for future editions. People still buy the flashbacks every year. Think of it as buying lots on bulk discount. You get repeats and dupes but also killer deals on some gems. Given that all the games are top teir (well most of them anyway) you're not buying filler.
I hope this sells boatloads so we get an SNES sequel.
If the games are amazing looking over the HDMI there will be many sequels. If it's just some thrown together wii u vc crap (where the NES games look terrible), the nostalgia will wear off pretty quickly and there will probably be 2 or 3 total nes ones and 1 or 2 snes ones. The Snes games look way better on VC though so once they bridge that gap the popularity might take off again.
I feel that flashiness and nostalgia can sell products initially but you need the quality underneath to sustain it otherwise it just ends up being a fad.
Nintendo only gives 30 games so you'll buy another one. Why doesn't this thing have a wireless controller? If the cord is as long as the fami/dogbone that would be an awesome prank. Lol.
I suppose their thinking would be if you really want wireless, just tether the controller to a wiimote and play it on virtual console there. Which is a reasonable option.
Theres also the retro receiver option with an original NES.
We're almost spoiled for choice with the NES these days.
Does anyone have a link to the Amazon US page? I can't find it...I visited it and put my email in to be told when they'll sell it but I can't find the page on Amazon now...
The more I sit and ponder this thing the less I want it. It's still cool, but I own like 95% of the games and just don't see the point of accumulating things I'm not gonna use. The other thing is this will likely be more expensive in Canada. Likely $89.
Does anyone have a link to the Amazon US page? I can't find it...I visited it and put my email in to be told when they'll sell it but I can't find the page on Amazon now...
This. Do they email us when preorders open, or when it's actually available? If preorders sell out in ten minutes, I'm gonna be pissed...
The more I sit and ponder this thing the less I want it. It's still cool, but I own like 95% of the games and just don't see the point of accumulating things I'm not gonna use. The other thing is this will likely be more expensive in Canada. Likely $89.
I did the math, in total it'll be over 100 if you want the spare controller
The more I sit and ponder this thing the less I want it. It's still cool, but I own like 95% of the games and just don't see the point of accumulating things I'm not gonna use. The other thing is this will likely be more expensive in Canada. Likely $89.
I did the math, in total it'll be over 100 if you want the spare controller
Don't forget shipping if ordering from US supplier like Amazon.
The more I sit and ponder this thing the less I want it. It's still cool, but I own like 95% of the games and just don't see the point of accumulating things I'm not gonna use. The other thing is this will likely be more expensive in Canada. Likely $89.
I did the math, in total it'll be over 100 if you want the spare controller
Don't forget shipping if ordering from US supplier like Amazon.
yup I think I took that into account man we Canadians always get the shaft
But this NES thing is at a much higher price point than any flashback
Most people nowadays have little to no love for console games pre-Nintendo. Nintendo can charge a premium and get away with it.
But it would still be horrible to keep having to buy these things for a different selection of games.
Of course they'll save a few exclusives for future editions. People still buy the flashbacks every year. Think of it as buying lots on bulk discount. You get repeats and dupes but also killer deals on some gems. Given that all the games are top teir (well most of them anyway) you're not buying filler.
I hope this sells boatloads so we get an SNES sequel.
Meh I would be more impressed if they had a way to expand the library. At least through virtual console or something.
The more I sit and ponder this thing the less I want it. It's still cool, but I own like 95% of the games and just don't see the point of accumulating things I'm not gonna use. The other thing is this will likely be more expensive in Canada. Likely $89.
I feel the same way, it is absolutely pointless really and at this point I bet most people are buying it for the packaging to sit on the shelf.
I'm surprised more people aren't commenting about what sort of impact the release of this mini-NES will have on the retro gaming/collecting market. I've heard a few friends talking about it over the weekend who are by no means retro gamers or video game hobbyists at all, and they both intended to get one. It stands to reason that this thing is going to draw more "outsiders" into this hobby as a trickle-down result, as some people are going to play these games and the nostalgia trip will eventually lead them right here! Are these sorts of things good for collectors or bad in your opinions, and why?
The more I sit and ponder this thing the less I want it. It's still cool, but I own like 95% of the games and just don't see the point of accumulating things I'm not gonna use. The other thing is this will likely be more expensive in Canada. Likely $89.
I feel the same way, it is absolutely pointless really and at this point I bet most people are buying it for the packaging to sit on the shelf.
It stands to reason that this thing is going to draw more "outsiders" into this hobby as a trickle-down result, as some people are going to play these games and the nostalgia trip will eventually lead them right here!
Just like we say "why would I buy games I already have carts for", wonder if they would say "why would I buy expensive carts that I already have a system for?"
It stands to reason that this thing is going to draw more "outsiders" into this hobby as a trickle-down result, as some people are going to play these games and the nostalgia trip will eventually lead them right here!
Just like we say "why would I buy games I already have carts for", wonder if they would say "why would I buy expensive carts that I already have a system for?"
I'm sort of hoping that will be the thinking, but I'm thinking some will use it as a springboard into the hobby, and am wondering that if numbers are great enough, what kind of impact that would have on the market/prices etc as a whole.
I'm sort of hoping that will be the thinking, but I'm thinking some will use it as a springboard into the hobby, and am wondering that if numbers are great enough, what kind of impact that would have on the market/prices etc as a whole.
Depends on how much cash they have to spend. They'd have to buy either a working NES ($60) and some more games. I would imagine they'd want the Marios and what not on original carts. Once they see how much it costs now, I don't see too many taking a full plunge.
And hey, if it gets them into their attics and pulling out their own games to throw into the market, how is that a bad thing?
Does anyone have a link to the Amazon US page? I can't find it...I visited it and put my email in to be told when they'll sell it but I can't find the page on Amazon now...
i wondered all this myself. the mini nintendo with only 30 games I'm sure would't change the market. and i recently acquired a power pack with some 800 games from a fellow collector friend. wondering how it would impact me as a collector, i can tell you that now being able to preview all games that I've wanted to see in my collection first hand as apposed to a long play video or childhood memory, has only made me want to grab these titles more. the novelty is grand but there is something about filling the shelf that still makes me want to throw all my money away. i just don't ever have to buy bubblebath babes or other crazy high priced games.
It's still a really cool system and I can see the attraction for both casual gamers and collectors. For me, I am just running out of room and honestly have too much stuff as it is and don't need something else collecting dust. I have the carts, a flash cart, emulator, hacked Wii, etc. so I think I can do without.
the retro market is already beyond saturated and stale. I doubt this thing will have much of an impact, especially since you can't play games in it. If they re-released the NES altogether that would be a different story.
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Hopefully the fact that these are actually NES games, coupled with the "more authentic" controller will help the gameplay.
My main concern is the pads inside the controllers. Authentic NES pads had substantial rubber and were very resilient. Knockoffs had crap that wore out in weeks.
No doubt. All the knockoff crap is just that... crap.
Time will tell.
The Top Loader NES was only $49.99 when it launched in 1993, and those controllers are very nice.
If this is the hot item for Christmas, I would think it would be highly likely that there will be a NES Mini 2.0 released late next year with more games. I would suggest it would be a tad too ambitious to hope for internet connectivity and adding games, not at $60.
The more I think about it,the more I think the nes mini 2.0 (if they make another) will be the top loader.
you know, that would actually be a pretty brilliant move. Collectors who are into it wouldnt think twice about it compared to the exact same thing with more games. Then do a Famicom with some Japanese exclusives translated and you have three different machines with many different games between the three, they would all sell. Then move on to SNES. Edit: as long as they leave enough time in between that people don't burn out on them
Hopefully the fact that these are actually NES games, coupled with the "more authentic" controller will help the gameplay.
My main concern is the pads inside the controllers. Authentic NES pads had substantial rubber and were very resilient. Knockoffs had crap that wore out in weeks.
No doubt. All the knockoff crap is just that... crap.
Time will tell.
The Top Loader NES was only $49.99 when it launched in 1993, and those controllers are very nice.
I would think the controllers will be pretty decent.
If this is the hot item for Christmas, I would think it would be highly likely that there will be a NES Mini 2.0 released late next year with more games. I would suggest it would be a tad too ambitious to hope for internet connectivity and adding games, not at $60.
The more I think about it,the more I think the nes mini 2.0 (if they make another) will be the top loader.
you know, that would actually be a pretty brilliant move. Collectors who are into it wouldnt think twice about it compared to the exact same thing with more games. Then do a Famicom with some Japanese exclusives translated and you have three different machines with many different games between the three, they would all sell. Then move on to SNES
You guys should get a cut.
But this NES thing is at a much higher price point than any flashback
Most people nowadays have little to no love for console games pre-Nintendo. Nintendo can charge a premium and get away with it.
If this is the hot item for Christmas, I would think it would be highly likely that there will be a NES Mini 2.0 released late next year with more games. I would suggest it would be a tad too ambitious to hope for internet connectivity and adding games, not at $60.
The more I think about it,the more I think the nes mini 2.0 (if they make another) will be the top loader.
you know, that would actually be a pretty brilliant move. Collectors who are into it wouldnt think twice about it compared to the exact same thing with more games. Then do a Famicom with some Japanese exclusives translated and you have three different machines with many different games between the three, they would all sell. Then move on to SNES. Edit: as long as they leave enough time in between that people don't burn out on them
I don't think they'll do a top loader design. Not enough mainstream nostalgia for those, and they'd need new tooling for the dogbones in addtion to the mini console. More likely, in 2017 they do an SNES along with an NES Mini 2 with some new exclusive games on it.
If they make a Famicom variant for Japanese markets, I would do my dead level best to import it. It's sure to get at least a few Famicom exclusive gems like Devil World, Bio Miracle Upa (FDS), or SMB2 Japan version (lost Levels). Also some great exclusive shooters used the Konami VRC4 mapper if ther emulator suports it. Parodius, anyone?
But this NES thing is at a much higher price point than any flashback
Most people nowadays have little to no love for console games pre-Nintendo. Nintendo can charge a premium and get away with it.
The Atari and Sega Flashbacks from atgames has noticeable flaws in their emulation. They also output composite AV only. The Atari system has 100 games and a price of $45.00, the Sega system has 40 real games and the same price. An Atari game costs $.45, a Sega game costs $0.88 and a NES game costs $2.00.
The fact that there have been a grand total of seven Atari Flashbacks released between Jakks Pacific and Atgames, shows that there is nostalgia for Atari. Nintendo is sitting on a goldmine.
As for price per game title, $.45, $.88, and $2.00, that sounds about right. As an Atari collector, the vintage games for the most part are a dime a dozen, and you get a few minutes of gameplay out of them. My ADHD self could swap them out all day long spending 5 minutes or less per game. NES games are much larger and more expansive, for instance one could spend multiple hours playing through Legend of Zelda, SMB3, or Kirby's Adventure.
So the fact that the NES Mini has fewer games is not a deal breaker because you get far more gameplay value per game.
But this NES thing is at a much higher price point than any flashback
Most people nowadays have little to no love for console games pre-Nintendo. Nintendo can charge a premium and get away with it.
But it would still be horrible to keep having to buy these things for a different selection of games.
But this NES thing is at a much higher price point than any flashback
Most people nowadays have little to no love for console games pre-Nintendo. Nintendo can charge a premium and get away with it.
But it would still be horrible to keep having to buy these things for a different selection of games.
Of course they'll save a few exclusives for future editions. People still buy the flashbacks every year. Think of it as buying lots on bulk discount. You get repeats and dupes but also killer deals on some gems. Given that all the games are top teir (well most of them anyway) you're not buying filler.
I hope this sells boatloads so we get an SNES sequel.
I feel that flashiness and nostalgia can sell products initially but you need the quality underneath to sustain it otherwise it just ends up being a fad.
Nintendo only gives 30 games so you'll buy another one. Why doesn't this thing have a wireless controller? If the cord is as long as the fami/dogbone that would be an awesome prank. Lol.
I suppose their thinking would be if you really want wireless, just tether the controller to a wiimote and play it on virtual console there. Which is a reasonable option.
Theres also the retro receiver option with an original NES.
We're almost spoiled for choice with the NES these days.
Originally posted by: Astor Reinhardt
Does anyone have a link to the Amazon US page? I can't find it...I visited it and put my email in to be told when they'll sell it but I can't find the page on Amazon now...
This. Do they email us when preorders open, or when it's actually available? If preorders sell out in ten minutes, I'm gonna be pissed...
The more I sit and ponder this thing the less I want it. It's still cool, but I own like 95% of the games and just don't see the point of accumulating things I'm not gonna use. The other thing is this will likely be more expensive in Canada. Likely $89.
I did the math, in total it'll be over 100 if you want the spare controller
The more I sit and ponder this thing the less I want it. It's still cool, but I own like 95% of the games and just don't see the point of accumulating things I'm not gonna use. The other thing is this will likely be more expensive in Canada. Likely $89.
I did the math, in total it'll be over 100 if you want the spare controller
Don't forget shipping if ordering from US supplier like Amazon.
The more I sit and ponder this thing the less I want it. It's still cool, but I own like 95% of the games and just don't see the point of accumulating things I'm not gonna use. The other thing is this will likely be more expensive in Canada. Likely $89.
I did the math, in total it'll be over 100 if you want the spare controller
Don't forget shipping if ordering from US supplier like Amazon.
yup I think I took that into account man we Canadians always get the shaft
But this NES thing is at a much higher price point than any flashback
Most people nowadays have little to no love for console games pre-Nintendo. Nintendo can charge a premium and get away with it.
But it would still be horrible to keep having to buy these things for a different selection of games.
Of course they'll save a few exclusives for future editions. People still buy the flashbacks every year. Think of it as buying lots on bulk discount. You get repeats and dupes but also killer deals on some gems. Given that all the games are top teir (well most of them anyway) you're not buying filler.
I hope this sells boatloads so we get an SNES sequel.
Meh I would be more impressed if they had a way to expand the library. At least through virtual console or something.
The more I sit and ponder this thing the less I want it. It's still cool, but I own like 95% of the games and just don't see the point of accumulating things I'm not gonna use. The other thing is this will likely be more expensive in Canada. Likely $89.
I feel the same way, it is absolutely pointless really and at this point I bet most people are buying it for the packaging to sit on the shelf.
The more I sit and ponder this thing the less I want it. It's still cool, but I own like 95% of the games and just don't see the point of accumulating things I'm not gonna use. The other thing is this will likely be more expensive in Canada. Likely $89.
I feel the same way, it is absolutely pointless really and at this point I bet most people are buying it for the packaging to sit on the shelf.
It will look glorious on my shelf! Haha!
I feel the same way, it is absolutely pointless really and at this point I bet most people are buying it for the packaging to sit on the shelf.
You just made all the sealed collectors feel real uncomfortable just now.
It stands to reason that this thing is going to draw more "outsiders" into this hobby as a trickle-down result, as some people are going to play these games and the nostalgia trip will eventually lead them right here!
Just like we say "why would I buy games I already have carts for", wonder if they would say "why would I buy expensive carts that I already have a system for?"
I feel the same way, it is absolutely pointless really and at this point I bet most people are buying it for the packaging to sit on the shelf.
You just made all the sealed collectors feel real uncomfortable just now.
Well what else are you gunnuh do with the packaging? I usually play with the game, not the box. but thats just me
I feel the same way, it is absolutely pointless really and at this point I bet most people are buying it for the packaging to sit on the shelf.
You just made all the sealed collectors feel real uncomfortable just now.
Well what else are you gunnuh do with the packaging? I usually play with the game, not the box. but thats just me
Exactly Bert, play it! PLlLLaaaAaAyYyY iiIiIiIiIiiTttTTtT.
It stands to reason that this thing is going to draw more "outsiders" into this hobby as a trickle-down result, as some people are going to play these games and the nostalgia trip will eventually lead them right here!
Just like we say "why would I buy games I already have carts for", wonder if they would say "why would I buy expensive carts that I already have a system for?"
I'm sort of hoping that will be the thinking, but I'm thinking some will use it as a springboard into the hobby, and am wondering that if numbers are great enough, what kind of impact that would have on the market/prices etc as a whole.
I'm sort of hoping that will be the thinking, but I'm thinking some will use it as a springboard into the hobby, and am wondering that if numbers are great enough, what kind of impact that would have on the market/prices etc as a whole.
Depends on how much cash they have to spend. They'd have to buy either a working NES ($60) and some more games. I would imagine they'd want the Marios and what not on original carts. Once they see how much it costs now, I don't see too many taking a full plunge.
And hey, if it gets them into their attics and pulling out their own games to throw into the market, how is that a bad thing?
Does anyone have a link to the Amazon US page? I can't find it...I visited it and put my email in to be told when they'll sell it but I can't find the page on Amazon now...
Is this what you're looking for?
https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Entertainment-System-NES-Classic/dp/B01IFJBQ1E
the retro market is already beyond saturated and stale. I doubt this thing will have much of an impact, especially since you can't play games in it. If they re-released the NES altogether that would be a different story.