Nintendo: it is a step in the right direction , but can you please release a mini SNES classic edition with super Mario world, super Mario kart, super Mario all stars, super Mario rpg, earthbound, chrono trigger, DKC 1-3 (don't care what else you put on it, as long as those are included) for $59.99 ?? preferably the SNS-001 model mini , not a fan of SNS-101
They're saving that one for next year!
Edit: I wonder if the SNES model have a fake cart sticking out?
DKC 1-3 (don't care what else you put on it, as long as those are included)
That one might be tough as it was developed by Rare, even though it uses Nintendo characters. I don't know how the rights would shake out for that one.
None of the Rare developed NES games are on the mini, such as the obvious absence of RC Pro-Am.
DKC 1-3 (don't care what else you put on it, as long as those are included)
That one might be tough as it was developed by Rare, even though it uses Nintendo characters. I don't know how the rights would shake out for that one.
None of the Rare developed NES games are on the mini, such as the obvious absence of RC Pro-Am.
The Donkey Kong games (DKC Trilogy and DK64) are all owned by Nintendo. Nintendo retained the rights to them when they sold RARE to Microsoft. That's why they're al available on Virtual Console.
Nintendo: it is a step in the right direction , but can you please release a mini SNES classic edition with super Mario world, super Mario kart, super Mario all stars, super Mario rpg, earthbound, chrono trigger, DKC 1-3 (don't care what else you put on it, as long as those are included) for $59.99 ?? preferably the SNS-001 model mini , not a fan of SNS-101
Can't leave out Tetris Attack!
Also...
F-Zero
Super Metroid
Star Fox
Stunt Race FX
Illusion of Gaia would be nice. I know it was published by Nintendo in USA region.
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Oh yeah: Kirby Superstar, Kirby's Dreamland 3, Kirby's Dream Course, and Super Punch Out!!
DKC 1-3 (don't care what else you put on it, as long as those are included)
That one might be tough as it was developed by Rare, even though it uses Nintendo characters. I don't know how the rights would shake out for that one.
None of the Rare developed NES games are on the mini, such as the obvious absence of RC Pro-Am.
Nintendo has the rights to DKC. When the split happened, Nintendo basically retained rights to the games that featured their characters. That's why DKC is on Virtual Console and Banjo-Kazooie is not.
Apart from the titles, are there any other differences, i.e. Ninja Gaiden vs Shadow Warriors?
Probotector 1 and 2 changed all the Contra/Super C sprites from humans to robots. As near as I can tell, NG and SW are the same game aside from the title screen. Even the cut scenes seem to be intact, although I haven't compared every single one.
This sucks. I have Amazon on auto-notify, but if I'm not online the exact moment I recieve the email, I may get boned.
I would also recommend anyone considering importing the UK version exercise extreme caution. We have no way of knowing yet whether the UK boxes are 60Hz enabled or have censored games, ie "Shadow Warriors" in place of Ninja Gaiden or "Probotector 2" instead of Super C.
Nintendo have crapped on PAL gamers in the past with Wii VC so it wouldn't be unprecidented. Importing from USA to UK/EU would be a safer bet but shipping costs and the high USD would negate any price benefit, to say nothing of scalpers.
Apart from the titles, are there any other differences, i.e. Ninja Gaiden vs Shadow Warriors?
The differences are mostly cosmetic, but the graphics in Probotector II (Super C) were heavily altered. Most human combatants within the game were changed to robots, courtesy of NOE policy at the time:
I couldn't find much information about Shadow Warriors (Ninja Gaiden) besides the name change so idk if the game plays the same or if there were heavy sprite alterations.
Problem with the European release Classic NES Mini is we do not know if Ninja Gaiden and Super C are censored or not. The scene should not matter much today but if they use the PAL ROMs they would also need to do 50Hz or the timing and pitch would be off. Nintendo used the "gamers get the same experience as bitd" approach with the Wii Virtual Console using the PAL ROMs, a decision which was heavily criticized such that they started using NTSC ROMs with Wii-U and 3DS service. But you never know with Nintendo...
HDMI certainly opens the possibility for 60Hz playback, but until we know more details, I would consider it a gamble to preorder the Euro versions.
Toys-R-Us sold out lightening fast, within an hour, so here's crossing my fingers Amazon doesn't do the same, or I get lucky and happen to check my email when pre-orders go live. But I cannot compete with the smartphone equipped scalper type who will likely order a dozen or more units to flip for profit, and send them back if they urn out to be too plentiful and can't resell them.
Problem with the European release Classic NES Mini is we do not know if Ninja Gaiden and Super C are censored or not. The scene should not matter much today but if they use the PAL ROMs they would also need to do 50Hz or the timing and pitch would be off. Nintendo used the "gamers get the same experience as bitd" approach with the Wii Virtual Console using the PAL ROMs, a decision which was heavily criticized such that they started using NTSC ROMs with Wii-U and 3DS service. But you never know with Nintendo...
HDMI certainly opens the possibility for 60Hz playback, but until we know more details, I would consider it a gamble to preorder the Euro versions.
Toys-R-Us sold out lightening fast, within an hour, so here's crossing my fingers Amazon doesn't do the same, or I get lucky and happen to check my email when pre-orders go live. But I cannot compete with the smartphone equipped scalper type who will likely order a dozen or more units to flip for profit, and send them back if they urn out to be too plentiful and can't resell them.
Do you think there is a risk that the NES Classic Mini (all 30 games) may not play at the correct speed/sound on European TVs?
60hz is a required standard for HDMI, while 50hz is not. Nintendo will more likely use the same NTSC stuff for all regions, and that should be easy to see if there is a good shot of the packaging since games are listed on the front.
60hz is a required standard for HDMI, while 50hz is not. Nintendo will more likely use the same NTSC stuff for all regions, and that should be easy to see if there is a good shot of the packaging since games are listed on the front.
Thanks for the info. Well as long as all the games run well 9as they should), that's the main thing.
And just like that, Sega/Argames is coming out with another clone console this holiday season, this time with 80 Genesis games instead of 40. Otherwise the same exact console they've had past years, so no saves, no HDMI, only one sound chip, etc. But at least it takes Genesis carts and can use OEM controllers. There is supposed to be a handheld version too. I'm sure it will draw in a few sales.
And just like that, Sega/Argames is coming out with another clone console this holiday season, this time with 80 Genesis games instead of 40. Otherwise the same exact console they've had past years, so no saves, no HDMI, only one sound chip, etc. But at least it takes Genesis carts and can use OEM controllers. There is supposed to be a handheld version too. I'm sure it will draw in a few sales.
You'll change your tune real quick when you hear the ear-grating audio on those POS. I'll take a Retro Trio any day over that schite.
And just like that, Sega/Argames is coming out with another clone console this holiday season, this time with 80 Genesis games instead of 40. Otherwise the same exact console they've had past years, so no saves, no HDMI, only one sound chip, etc. But at least it takes Genesis carts and can use OEM controllers. There is supposed to be a handheld version too. I'm sure it will draw in a few sales.
You'll change your tune real quick when you hear the ear-grating audio on those POS. I'll take a Retro Trio any day over that schite.
Everything Sega ever made (minus the Dreamcast) has physically felt like gumball machine plastic. Cheap, light, cracks easy, etc.
I won't be surprised by the lack of quality compared to what Nintendo is doing.
And just like that, Sega/Argames is coming out with another clone console this holiday season, this time with 80 Genesis games instead of 40. Otherwise the same exact console they've had past years, so no saves, no HDMI, only one sound chip, etc. But at least it takes Genesis carts and can use OEM controllers. There is supposed to be a handheld version too. I'm sure it will draw in a few sales.
Just fixed the fucking sound, add the hdmi port, maybe better wireless remotes and boom the system is already miles better than the nes mini.
You'll change your tune real quick when you hear the ear-grating audio on those POS. I'll take a Retro Trio any day over that schite.
Oh I own the 40 Game version, and I own an HDG Genesis 1. I know the difference.
Originally posted by: Thunderblaze16
Just fixed the fucking sound, add the hdmi port, maybe better wireless remotes and boom the system is already miles better than the nes mini.
Agreed. Even the HDMI is minimally necessary in my eyes, though many others want it these days. And even the controllers aren't that important when you can use OEM ones. They just needed to put the effort in the sound department and they have a killer product.
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Nintendo: it is a step in the right direction , but can you please release a mini SNES classic edition with super Mario world, super Mario kart, super Mario all stars, super Mario rpg, earthbound, chrono trigger, DKC 1-3 (don't care what else you put on it, as long as those are included) for $59.99 ?? preferably the SNS-001 model mini , not a fan of SNS-101
They're saving that one for next year!
Edit: I wonder if the SNES model have a fake cart sticking out?
DKC 1-3 (don't care what else you put on it, as long as those are included)
That one might be tough as it was developed by Rare, even though it uses Nintendo characters. I don't know how the rights would shake out for that one.
None of the Rare developed NES games are on the mini, such as the obvious absence of RC Pro-Am.
DKC 1-3 (don't care what else you put on it, as long as those are included)
That one might be tough as it was developed by Rare, even though it uses Nintendo characters. I don't know how the rights would shake out for that one.
None of the Rare developed NES games are on the mini, such as the obvious absence of RC Pro-Am.
The Donkey Kong games (DKC Trilogy and DK64) are all owned by Nintendo. Nintendo retained the rights to them when they sold RARE to Microsoft. That's why they're al available on Virtual Console.
Nintendo: it is a step in the right direction , but can you please release a mini SNES classic edition with super Mario world, super Mario kart, super Mario all stars, super Mario rpg, earthbound, chrono trigger, DKC 1-3 (don't care what else you put on it, as long as those are included) for $59.99 ?? preferably the SNS-001 model mini , not a fan of SNS-101
Can't leave out Tetris Attack!
Also...
F-Zero
Super Metroid
Star Fox
Stunt Race FX
Illusion of Gaia would be nice. I know it was published by Nintendo in USA region.
[edit]
Oh yeah: Kirby Superstar, Kirby's Dreamland 3, Kirby's Dream Course, and Super Punch Out!!
DKC 1-3 (don't care what else you put on it, as long as those are included)
That one might be tough as it was developed by Rare, even though it uses Nintendo characters. I don't know how the rights would shake out for that one.
None of the Rare developed NES games are on the mini, such as the obvious absence of RC Pro-Am.
Nintendo has the rights to DKC. When the split happened, Nintendo basically retained rights to the games that featured their characters. That's why DKC is on Virtual Console and Banjo-Kazooie is not.
Apart from the titles, are there any other differences, i.e. Ninja Gaiden vs Shadow Warriors?
Probotector 1 and 2 changed all the Contra/Super C sprites from humans to robots. As near as I can tell, NG and SW are the same game aside from the title screen. Even the cut scenes seem to be intact, although I haven't compared every single one.
Oh ok, thanks
This sucks. I have Amazon on auto-notify, but if I'm not online the exact moment I recieve the email, I may get boned.
I would also recommend anyone considering importing the UK version exercise extreme caution. We have no way of knowing yet whether the UK boxes are 60Hz enabled or have censored games, ie "Shadow Warriors" in place of Ninja Gaiden or "Probotector 2" instead of Super C.
Nintendo have crapped on PAL gamers in the past with Wii VC so it wouldn't be unprecidented. Importing from USA to UK/EU would be a safer bet but shipping costs and the high USD would negate any price benefit, to say nothing of scalpers.
Apart from the titles, are there any other differences, i.e. Ninja Gaiden vs Shadow Warriors?
The differences are mostly cosmetic, but the graphics in Probotector II (Super C) were heavily altered. Most human combatants within the game were changed to robots, courtesy of NOE policy at the time:
http://www.movie-censorship.com/r...
I couldn't find much information about Shadow Warriors (Ninja Gaiden) besides the name change so idk if the game plays the same or if there were heavy sprite alterations.
Thanks, interesting link.
HDMI certainly opens the possibility for 60Hz playback, but until we know more details, I would consider it a gamble to preorder the Euro versions.
Toys-R-Us sold out lightening fast, within an hour, so here's crossing my fingers Amazon doesn't do the same, or I get lucky and happen to check my email when pre-orders go live. But I cannot compete with the smartphone equipped scalper type who will likely order a dozen or more units to flip for profit, and send them back if they urn out to be too plentiful and can't resell them.
jonebone took all the TRU pre-orders.
That's a pretty bold accusation.
jonebone took all the TRU pre-orders.
That's a pretty bold accusation.
He's a troll, not to be literally intrepreted. I think he's upset that I've decided to collect his precious Turbografx-16 platform.
Also, I finally fixed the typo in the thread title that someone requested a few pages back. Forgot I had the power!
At least it isn't as bad as "taredown."
Problem with the European release Classic NES Mini is we do not know if Ninja Gaiden and Super C are censored or not. The scene should not matter much today but if they use the PAL ROMs they would also need to do 50Hz or the timing and pitch would be off. Nintendo used the "gamers get the same experience as bitd" approach with the Wii Virtual Console using the PAL ROMs, a decision which was heavily criticized such that they started using NTSC ROMs with Wii-U and 3DS service. But you never know with Nintendo...
HDMI certainly opens the possibility for 60Hz playback, but until we know more details, I would consider it a gamble to preorder the Euro versions.
Toys-R-Us sold out lightening fast, within an hour, so here's crossing my fingers Amazon doesn't do the same, or I get lucky and happen to check my email when pre-orders go live. But I cannot compete with the smartphone equipped scalper type who will likely order a dozen or more units to flip for profit, and send them back if they urn out to be too plentiful and can't resell them.
Do you think there is a risk that the NES Classic Mini (all 30 games) may not play at the correct speed/sound on European TVs?
Do you think there is a risk that the NES Classic Mini (all 30 games) may not play at the correct speed/sound on European TVs?
I don't know why they would release a specific European version if that were the case.
60hz is a required standard for HDMI, while 50hz is not. Nintendo will more likely use the same NTSC stuff for all regions, and that should be easy to see if there is a good shot of the packaging since games are listed on the front.
Thanks for the info. Well as long as all the games run well 9as they should), that's the main thing.
Also, I finally fixed the typo in the thread title that someone requested a few pages back. Forgot I had the power!
Subtitle still says "eddition"
Originally posted by: Ichinisan
Originally posted by: jonebone
Also, I finally fixed the typo in the thread title that someone requested a few pages back. Forgot I had the power!
Subtitle still says "eddition"
Fixed!
Originally posted by: Trj22487
And just like that, Sega/Argames is coming out with another clone console this holiday season, this time with 80 Genesis games instead of 40. Otherwise the same exact console they've had past years, so no saves, no HDMI, only one sound chip, etc. But at least it takes Genesis carts and can use OEM controllers. There is supposed to be a handheld version too. I'm sure it will draw in a few sales.
You'll change your tune real quick when you hear the ear-grating audio on those POS. I'll take a Retro Trio any day over that schite.
And just like that, Sega/Argames is coming out with another clone console this holiday season, this time with 80 Genesis games instead of 40. Otherwise the same exact console they've had past years, so no saves, no HDMI, only one sound chip, etc. But at least it takes Genesis carts and can use OEM controllers. There is supposed to be a handheld version too. I'm sure it will draw in a few sales.
You'll change your tune real quick when you hear the ear-grating audio on those POS. I'll take a Retro Trio any day over that schite.
Everything Sega ever made (minus the Dreamcast) has physically felt like gumball machine plastic. Cheap, light, cracks easy, etc.
I won't be surprised by the lack of quality compared to what Nintendo is doing.
Originally posted by: Trj22487
And just like that, Sega/Argames is coming out with another clone console this holiday season, this time with 80 Genesis games instead of 40. Otherwise the same exact console they've had past years, so no saves, no HDMI, only one sound chip, etc. But at least it takes Genesis carts and can use OEM controllers. There is supposed to be a handheld version too. I'm sure it will draw in a few sales.
Just fixed the fucking sound, add the hdmi port, maybe better wireless remotes and boom the system is already miles better than the nes mini.
Originally posted by: Kosmic StarDust
You'll change your tune real quick when you hear the ear-grating audio on those POS. I'll take a Retro Trio any day over that schite.
Oh I own the 40 Game version, and I own an HDG Genesis 1. I know the difference.
Originally posted by: Thunderblaze16
Just fixed the fucking sound, add the hdmi port, maybe better wireless remotes and boom the system is already miles better than the nes mini.
Agreed. Even the HDMI is minimally necessary in my eyes, though many others want it these days. And even the controllers aren't that important when you can use OEM ones. They just needed to put the effort in the sound department and they have a killer product.
ToysRus is taking preorders at this point in time : ) You'd better hurry!
Pre-ordered! Thanks a ton man!!!!