So they could sell a Analogue NT with power and reset buttons Cut from Diamonds and it'd be ok just cause it's another choice for consumers? If you want choices so much why don't you just buy some famiclones and then you could have a NES that looks like a playstation or something.
So they could sell a Analogue NT with power and reset buttons Cut from Diamonds and it'd be ok just cause it's another choice for consumers? If you want choices so much why don't you just buy some famiclones and then you could have a NES that looks like a playstation or something.
Yes it is okay. It is okay for people to sell whatever they want dude when it comes to stuff like this.
If people are willing to buy it because it is worth it to them, how is the seller doing anything wrong? No one forces anyone to buy anything.
Same way that people can buy whetever they want to. It's not my money, so people should be able to spend on it on whatever they want that makes them happy.
Live and let live, to each their own, different strokes for different folks, whatever floats your boat, De gustibus non est disputandum, etc......
So they could sell a Analogue NT with power and reset buttons Cut from Diamonds and it'd be ok just cause it's another choice for consumers? If you want choices so much why don't you just buy some famiclones and then you could have a NES that looks like a playstation or something.
So they could sell a Analogue NT with power and reset buttons Cut from Diamonds and it'd be ok just cause it's another choice for consumers? If you want choices so much why don't you just buy some famiclones and then you could have a NES that looks like a playstation or something.
Taste the bitter.
Seriously. I'm in the group that thinks the price for either of the NT's is silly (not in comparison with the AVS--just in general), but MathUser's details are all over the place. The gold NT was $5k, not $10k. The $5k versions were the originals, not the FPGA minis. You'd think for something that he's apparently so upset and offended by, more reading and fact checking would have gone into such impassioned objections.
So they could sell a Analogue NT with power and reset buttons Cut from Diamonds and it'd be ok just cause it's another choice for consumers? If you want choices so much why don't you just buy some famiclones and then you could have a NES that looks like a playstation or something.
Taste the bitter.
Seriously. I'm in the group that thinks the price for either of the NT's is silly (not in comparison with the AVS--just in general), but MathUser's details are all over the place. The gold NT was $5k, not $10k. The $5k versions were the originals, not the FPGA minis. You'd think for something that he's apparently so upset and offended by, more reading and fact checking would have gone into such impassioned objections.
Its even more comical considering his username, hohohehehaha.
Not having th ports spaced for a 4 score we be a deal breaker at any price for me. Likewise i use the 4 score as an extension cord all the time so you dont have to have 4 dudeds grouped 7 feet from the tv lol
Going off of their product pictures and drawings on the site and comparing them to properly spaced ports on the AVS I can tell you that, as it stands right now, the NT mini does not have properly spaced ports for the 4 score.
Here's an overlay with port 1 lined up, the left most port 2 is the AVS and the right most port 2 is the NT mini.
It's only been mentioned once, but many people, myself included, prefer top loading systems over the front loading style the AVS offers. Additionally, the NT Mini appears to offer the ability to adjust audio/video setting mid game play, while reviews for the AVS indicate game play must be stopped & restarted with the AVS. Also, some of you may scoff at how much consideration looks get, but when looks are the difference from someone's wife allowing it to sit out in the main room or get shunned to the basement, that alone may justify the price difference. As far as the four score compatiblity, several companies (Tomee, retro-bit, ect.) make contoller extensions, as well as the wireless adapters which provide a solution, although not ideal.
On the other hand, the AVS not only has the scoreboard feature built in as others have mentioned, but also has a built in cheat code (Game Genie) menu, built in turbo controller options, and from the reviews I've seen, a better looking start up / options menu.
In full disclosure, I pre-ordered the AVS on the first day of their pre-orders. I may pick up an NT mini if the price of used units falls below retail. I think it's great we're seeing new options come to market that simply weren't availble a year or two ago. If the crazy eBay pricing tells us anything, it's that there's pent up demand for products like these. Let's hope the inovation continues.
Originally posted by: Hubz
They're both fantastic products and I'm glad we have options. Bunnyboy and Kevtris thank you guys, you kick ass!
As far as the four score compatiblity, several companies (Tomee, retro-bit, ect.) make contoller extensions, as well as the wireless adapters which provide a solution, although not ideal.
Extensions in my experience screw with the Fourscore and cause the games to glitch out. I'm not the only one that has seen it, either.
I was suggesting the extension cords in place of the four score since the console already has four controller ports. Again, I realize this option may not be ideal, but it addresses the major issue raised of not being able to sit further from the tv.
Also, I don't get the front vs toploading when it comes to AVS vs the NT, unless you just like to see the cart and its label stick up while in the console. The AVS isn't like the original NES, it's more like an NES with a Blinking Light Win installed, so it makes just as good of contact as a toploader does.
Also, I don't get the front vs toploading when it comes to AVS vs the NT, unless you just like to see the cart and its label stick up while in the console. The AVS isn't like the original NES, it's more like an NES with a Blinking Light Win installed, so it makes just as good of contact as a toploader does.
There are so many toploader famiclones that I think it's cool the AVS isn't toploading for once. It has a great classic look. (The AVS of course, not the ugly black-on-semi-clear AVS LLE!)
I guess I'm still crazy enough to think the more options the better! And yes, it's ok for a company to come out with a diamond encrusted famiclone for $10k. It doesn't mean anyone has to actually buy it, but if someone does, good for them!
There are so many snobs in other hobbies, I'd hate to see them taint video game collecting...buy whatever the F@&! You want and be happy
Why would you need a Four Score or a Satellite with it? It has four ports built in. *FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT*
Because how else could you get 8 players at once? Come on man.
Sole Goose brings up a good point. The American Four Score uses multiplexing on D0 inputs for extra players. Famicom accessory controllers use D1 inputs instead, which could be used for players 3-4.
An AVS (or NT with modded plugs or extensions) set to use the 3rd and 4th controller ports as D1 mode for Japanese multiplayer, could in theory have two four scores plugged in enabling multiplexing on all four inputs for a total of 8 players.
You could also pull off 8-player mayhem with an AV Famicom with homemade two player 15-pin Accessory to NES adapter. Alternatively, you could in theory connect up to a whopping 12 players on an NES with a properly modified Four Score PRO by multiplexing the D0, D3, and D4 inputs.
A specially designed 8-player homebrew could be designed to make use of dual four scores, but I would question if it would be worth the trouble given the number of users out there with the necessary hardware as well as seven friends. Also sprite flicker likely becomes an issue if all 8 players stand on the same platform.
Meh, I'll just keep my toaster hooked up to the tube TV in my room, be able to play light gun and ROB games, and put the AVS on my HD TV. You can keep the 1080x and aluminum case.
This 1000x. Say what you will, but I have never seen any consumer grade television released in the US, CRT or HDTV, that natively takes RGB. RGB is merely a means to get the best possible picture out of your HDTV using RGB Mini, Framemiester, or similar upscaler as a middleman, which also adds lag btw.
Composite was and still is the gold standard of the SD era, like HDMI is for HD. It's why modern flatpanels have one integrated legacy connector and HDMI. If anyone owns one of these commercial grade PVM monitors, well good for you. The vast majority of gamers don't.
This is great, it's like the console wars all over but this time it's NES vs. NES.
Nintendoes what Nintendon't. Sorry I always wanted to say that...
Also Nintendo has their own version coming out this fall that uses Wii controllers and no cart ports. And you can buy the AVS for the price of 3x NES Minis or the NT for the price of 7.5x NES Minis...
I think it's great we're seeing new options come to market that simply weren't availble a year or two ago. If the crazy eBay pricing tells us anything, it's that there's pent up demand for products like these. Let's hope the inovation continues.
A thousand times this. I like the look, price and abilities of the AVS more than the NT, but competition and options are wonderful. It's my hope that when these are successful (and I think they will be) it will spur people to put time into an HDMI SNES, HDMI Genesis, HDMI TurboDuo, etc. that is not an emulator box, or even a console containing multiples of these (if that is technologically possible). I'm ready to buy any of these anytime - come take my money!
I think it's great we're seeing new options come to market that simply weren't availble a year or two ago. If the crazy eBay pricing tells us anything, it's that there's pent up demand for products like these. Let's hope the inovation continues.
A thousand times this. I like the look, price and abilities of the AVS more than the NT, but competition and options are wonderful. It's my hope that when these are successful (and I think they will be) it will spur people to put time into an HDMI SNES, HDMI Genesis, HDMI TurboDuo, etc. that is not an emulator box, or even a console containing multiples of these (if that is technologically possible). I'm ready to buy any of these anytime - come take my money!
it is technically possible to have one console with as many FPGAs as you would want afaik
it is technically possible to have one console with as many FPGAs as you would want afaik
Yes, but you need a lot more gates to run 16-bit consoles. Kevtris has only partly completed SNES. It will take a powerful FPGA to pull off SNES, and Neo Geo is beyond reach for the time being.
If the HDMiser ever comes out, the need for a hdmi solution for snes and genesis will disappear, no need for clone console's for those systems. The Nes was a special case, it did not nativity support RGB but the 16bit console's did. RetroRGB.com is a good source of information and i suggest checking it out. The turbo seems to work well with http://db-electronics.ca/product/dbgrafx-booster-ttp/ and combined with the genesis retrovision HD cable gives good results, also if the HDMiser ever comes out you have those system along with the master system with HDMI out to the tv. Very good couple of years for product's to enhance picture quality for vintage systems.
If the HDMiser ever comes out, the need for a hdmi solution for snes and genesis will disappear, no need for clone console's for those systems. The Nes was a special case, it did not nativity support RGB but the 16bit console's did. RetroRGB.com is a good source of information and i suggest checking it out. The turbo seems to work well with http://db-electronics.ca/product/... and combined with the genesis retrovision HD cable gives good results, also if the HDMiser ever comes out you have those system along with the master system with HDMI out to the tv. Very good couple of years for product's to enhance picture quality for vintage systems.
One cannot just line double or line triple the 240p scanlines of Genesis and SNES directly to 480p60 or 720p60 HDMI (which could in theory be done with as little as one scanline of latency) because the exact timings are incompatible with some displays. It is absolutely necessary to add a frame buffer so that the signal syncs perfectly to the display device. This adds 16ms minimum of lag to the chain, then the HDTV adds it's own lag on top of it. Native HDMI consoles using an FPGA chip can halt the CPU by a handful of microseconds at the end of every frame while preserving internal timings and locking a rock solid 59.94Hz frame rate over HDMI, not 60.1 or whatever the SNES/NES puts out. The signal propagation delay of such FPGA systems can be as little as one scanline. In short you cannot halt a vintage console during Vblank to sync to perfect compliant timings, so a real time scanline doubler/tripler for analog 240p to 480p or 720p over HDMI may not always work.
Well as far as lag goes i dunno what to tell you, the HDMiser is just a rough idea at this point and i dunno if it will happen or not but considering the engineer they have on their team is an expert in the field of analog video i would assume he could do this with the least amount of lag possible. I heard about what they planned on adding to this upscale device on a live stream of their cables on the my life in gaming guys channel, but some of that could change.
Meh, I'll just keep my toaster hooked up to the tube TV in my room, be able to play light gun and ROB games, and put the AVS on my HD TV. You can keep the 1080x and aluminum case.
This 1000x. Say what you will, but I have never seen any consumer grade television released in the US, CRT or HDTV, that natively takes RGB. RGB is merely a means to get the best possible picture out of your HDTV using RGB Mini, Framemiester, or similar upscaler as a middleman, which also adds lag btw.
Composite was and still is the gold standard of the SD era, like HDMI is for HD. It's why modern flatpanels have one integrated legacy connector and HDMI. If anyone owns one of these commercial grade PVM monitors, well good for you. The vast majority of gamers don't.
But, many late model CRT's have SVideo and Component. In fact, most of the ones in thrift stores around me have Component in. The Analogue Mini supposedly supports Component / SVideo along with RGB. I imagine Nes Component would look amazing on my CRT.
... I have never seen any consumer grade television released in the US, CRT or HDTV, that natively takes RGB. RGB is merely a means to get the best possible picture out of your HDTV...
Composite was and still is the gold standard of the SD era, like HDMI is for HD.
Regardless of what you have seen in the US, these consoles are being sold in a global market where RGB is more common. And there are plenty of people in the US taking advantage of the signal without a framemeister. By the way, VGA is a form of RGB that plenty televisions in the US accept, not to mention PC monitors.
Also I think you just made up that "composite gold standard of SD era" bit off the top of your head, and you don't know what the phrase means. As in the best, most prestigious thing of its kind, even if rare. Composite was not the best at all. RGB and S Video were both better standard definition signals, and S Video was common in the US. Maybe you meant most common? It wasn't that either, RF was.
I can't even quote all the misinformation and opinions spouted as fact in this thread since I'm on mobile, maybe I wouldn't want to anyway with the way people make shit up.
"The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."
It will take a powerful FPGA to pull off SNES, and Neo Geo is beyond reach for the time being.
While I don't doubt that using an FPGA for either task would be inordinately complex, I am skeptical that it would be a technical impossibility due to some innate limitations of a higher-end FPGA.
I don't get the front vs toploading when it comes to AVS vs the NT, unless you just like to see the cart and its label stick up while in the console.
Personally, I look at the TV when I play games.
Personally, I'd prefer a cartridge as tall as an NES cartridge to be concealed in the console so it doesn't get bumped by rampaging children or hit by my dog's big-ass tail.
I don't get the front vs toploading when it comes to AVS vs the NT, unless you just like to see the cart and its label stick up while in the console.
Personally, I look at the TV when I play games.
Personally, I'd prefer a cartridge as tall as an NES cartridge to be concealed in the console so it doesn't get bumped by rampaging children or hit by my dog's big-ass tail.
I too prefer the cart to be kept in an enclosed space. Also, the entertainment center that the AVS will be going into doesn't have much vertical space to play with. So having a lower profile is definitely the way to go.
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So they could sell a Analogue NT with power and reset buttons Cut from Diamonds and it'd be ok just cause it's another choice for consumers? If you want choices so much why don't you just buy some famiclones and then you could have a NES that looks like a playstation or something.
Yes it is okay. It is okay for people to sell whatever they want dude when it comes to stuff like this.
If people are willing to buy it because it is worth it to them, how is the seller doing anything wrong? No one forces anyone to buy anything.
Same way that people can buy whetever they want to. It's not my money, so people should be able to spend on it on whatever they want that makes them happy.
Live and let live, to each their own, different strokes for different folks, whatever floats your boat, De gustibus non est disputandum, etc......
Those FPGA chips aren't worth 10k. You are paying 10k for a famiclone.
And you totally missed the point. O well.
So they could sell a Analogue NT with power and reset buttons Cut from Diamonds and it'd be ok just cause it's another choice for consumers? If you want choices so much why don't you just buy some famiclones and then you could have a NES that looks like a playstation or something.
Taste the bitter.
So they could sell a Analogue NT with power and reset buttons Cut from Diamonds and it'd be ok just cause it's another choice for consumers? If you want choices so much why don't you just buy some famiclones and then you could have a NES that looks like a playstation or something.
Taste the bitter.
Seriously. I'm in the group that thinks the price for either of the NT's is silly (not in comparison with the AVS--just in general), but MathUser's details are all over the place. The gold NT was $5k, not $10k. The $5k versions were the originals, not the FPGA minis. You'd think for something that he's apparently so upset and offended by, more reading and fact checking would have gone into such impassioned objections.
So they could sell a Analogue NT with power and reset buttons Cut from Diamonds and it'd be ok just cause it's another choice for consumers? If you want choices so much why don't you just buy some famiclones and then you could have a NES that looks like a playstation or something.
Taste the bitter.
Seriously. I'm in the group that thinks the price for either of the NT's is silly (not in comparison with the AVS--just in general), but MathUser's details are all over the place. The gold NT was $5k, not $10k. The $5k versions were the originals, not the FPGA minis. You'd think for something that he's apparently so upset and offended by, more reading and fact checking would have gone into such impassioned objections.
Its even more comical considering his username, hohohehehaha.
Not having th ports spaced for a 4 score we be a deal breaker at any price for me. Likewise i use the 4 score as an extension cord all the time so you dont have to have 4 dudeds grouped 7 feet from the tv lol
Going off of their product pictures and drawings on the site and comparing them to properly spaced ports on the AVS I can tell you that, as it stands right now, the NT mini does not have properly spaced ports for the 4 score.
Here's an overlay with port 1 lined up, the left most port 2 is the AVS and the right most port 2 is the NT mini.
On the other hand, the AVS not only has the scoreboard feature built in as others have mentioned, but also has a built in cheat code (Game Genie) menu, built in turbo controller options, and from the reviews I've seen, a better looking start up / options menu.
In full disclosure, I pre-ordered the AVS on the first day of their pre-orders. I may pick up an NT mini if the price of used units falls below retail. I think it's great we're seeing new options come to market that simply weren't availble a year or two ago. If the crazy eBay pricing tells us anything, it's that there's pent up demand for products like these. Let's hope the inovation continues.
They're both fantastic products and I'm glad we have options. Bunnyboy and Kevtris thank you guys, you kick ass!
Couldn't agree more.
As far as the four score compatiblity, several companies (Tomee, retro-bit, ect.) make contoller extensions, as well as the wireless adapters which provide a solution, although not ideal.
Extensions in my experience screw with the Fourscore and cause the games to glitch out. I'm not the only one that has seen it, either.
Jump to 1:08, I've seen this exact glitch.
Also, I don't get the front vs toploading when it comes to AVS vs the NT, unless you just like to see the cart and its label stick up while in the console. The AVS isn't like the original NES, it's more like an NES with a Blinking Light Win installed, so it makes just as good of contact as a toploader does.
I don't get the front vs toploading when it comes to AVS vs the NT, unless you just like to see the cart and its label stick up while in the console.
Personally, I look at the TV when I play games.
I don't get the front vs toploading when it comes to AVS vs the NT, unless you just like to see the cart and its label stick up while in the console.
Personally, I look at the TV when I play games.
Haha this is exactly what I was thinking!
Ah, I see.
Also, I don't get the front vs toploading when it comes to AVS vs the NT, unless you just like to see the cart and its label stick up while in the console. The AVS isn't like the original NES, it's more like an NES with a Blinking Light Win installed, so it makes just as good of contact as a toploader does.
There are so many toploader famiclones that I think it's cool the AVS isn't toploading for once. It has a great classic look. (The AVS of course, not the ugly black-on-semi-clear AVS LLE!)
There are so many snobs in other hobbies, I'd hate to see them taint video game collecting...buy whatever the F@&! You want and be happy
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Why would you need a Four Score or a Satellite with it? It has four ports built in. *FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT*
Because how else could you get 8 players at once? Come on man.
Sole Goose brings up a good point. The American Four Score uses multiplexing on D0 inputs for extra players. Famicom accessory controllers use D1 inputs instead, which could be used for players 3-4.
An AVS (or NT with modded plugs or extensions) set to use the 3rd and 4th controller ports as D1 mode for Japanese multiplayer, could in theory have two four scores plugged in enabling multiplexing on all four inputs for a total of 8 players.
You could also pull off 8-player mayhem with an AV Famicom with homemade two player 15-pin Accessory to NES adapter. Alternatively, you could in theory connect up to a whopping 12 players on an NES with a properly modified Four Score PRO by multiplexing the D0, D3, and D4 inputs.
A specially designed 8-player homebrew could be designed to make use of dual four scores, but I would question if it would be worth the trouble given the number of users out there with the necessary hardware as well as seven friends. Also sprite flicker likely becomes an issue if all 8 players stand on the same platform.
Meh, I'll just keep my toaster hooked up to the tube TV in my room, be able to play light gun and ROB games, and put the AVS on my HD TV. You can keep the 1080x and aluminum case.
This 1000x. Say what you will, but I have never seen any consumer grade television released in the US, CRT or HDTV, that natively takes RGB. RGB is merely a means to get the best possible picture out of your HDTV using RGB Mini, Framemiester, or similar upscaler as a middleman, which also adds lag btw.
Composite was and still is the gold standard of the SD era, like HDMI is for HD. It's why modern flatpanels have one integrated legacy connector and HDMI. If anyone owns one of these commercial grade PVM monitors, well good for you. The vast majority of gamers don't.
This is great, it's like the console wars all over but this time it's NES vs. NES.
Nintendoes what Nintendon't. Sorry I always wanted to say that...
Also Nintendo has their own version coming out this fall that uses Wii controllers and no cart ports. And you can buy the AVS for the price of 3x NES Minis or the NT for the price of 7.5x NES Minis...
I think it's great we're seeing new options come to market that simply weren't availble a year or two ago. If the crazy eBay pricing tells us anything, it's that there's pent up demand for products like these. Let's hope the inovation continues.
A thousand times this. I like the look, price and abilities of the AVS more than the NT, but competition and options are wonderful. It's my hope that when these are successful (and I think they will be) it will spur people to put time into an HDMI SNES, HDMI Genesis, HDMI TurboDuo, etc. that is not an emulator box, or even a console containing multiples of these (if that is technologically possible). I'm ready to buy any of these anytime - come take my money!
I think it's great we're seeing new options come to market that simply weren't availble a year or two ago. If the crazy eBay pricing tells us anything, it's that there's pent up demand for products like these. Let's hope the inovation continues.
A thousand times this. I like the look, price and abilities of the AVS more than the NT, but competition and options are wonderful. It's my hope that when these are successful (and I think they will be) it will spur people to put time into an HDMI SNES, HDMI Genesis, HDMI TurboDuo, etc. that is not an emulator box, or even a console containing multiples of these (if that is technologically possible). I'm ready to buy any of these anytime - come take my money!
it is technically possible to have one console with as many FPGAs as you would want afaik
it is technically possible to have one console with as many FPGAs as you would want afaik
Yes, but you need a lot more gates to run 16-bit consoles. Kevtris has only partly completed SNES. It will take a powerful FPGA to pull off SNES, and Neo Geo is beyond reach for the time being.
If the HDMiser ever comes out, the need for a hdmi solution for snes and genesis will disappear, no need for clone console's for those systems. The Nes was a special case, it did not nativity support RGB but the 16bit console's did. RetroRGB.com is a good source of information and i suggest checking it out. The turbo seems to work well with http://db-electronics.ca/product/... and combined with the genesis retrovision HD cable gives good results, also if the HDMiser ever comes out you have those system along with the master system with HDMI out to the tv. Very good couple of years for product's to enhance picture quality for vintage systems.
One cannot just line double or line triple the 240p scanlines of Genesis and SNES directly to 480p60 or 720p60 HDMI (which could in theory be done with as little as one scanline of latency) because the exact timings are incompatible with some displays. It is absolutely necessary to add a frame buffer so that the signal syncs perfectly to the display device. This adds 16ms minimum of lag to the chain, then the HDTV adds it's own lag on top of it. Native HDMI consoles using an FPGA chip can halt the CPU by a handful of microseconds at the end of every frame while preserving internal timings and locking a rock solid 59.94Hz frame rate over HDMI, not 60.1 or whatever the SNES/NES puts out. The signal propagation delay of such FPGA systems can be as little as one scanline. In short you cannot halt a vintage console during Vblank to sync to perfect compliant timings, so a real time scanline doubler/tripler for analog 240p to 480p or 720p over HDMI may not always work.
Meh, I'll just keep my toaster hooked up to the tube TV in my room, be able to play light gun and ROB games, and put the AVS on my HD TV. You can keep the 1080x and aluminum case.
This 1000x. Say what you will, but I have never seen any consumer grade television released in the US, CRT or HDTV, that natively takes RGB. RGB is merely a means to get the best possible picture out of your HDTV using RGB Mini, Framemiester, or similar upscaler as a middleman, which also adds lag btw.
Composite was and still is the gold standard of the SD era, like HDMI is for HD. It's why modern flatpanels have one integrated legacy connector and HDMI. If anyone owns one of these commercial grade PVM monitors, well good for you. The vast majority of gamers don't.
But, many late model CRT's have SVideo and Component. In fact, most of the ones in thrift stores around me have Component in. The Analogue Mini supposedly supports Component / SVideo along with RGB. I imagine Nes Component would look amazing on my CRT.
... I have never seen any consumer grade television released in the US, CRT or HDTV, that natively takes RGB. RGB is merely a means to get the best possible picture out of your HDTV...
Composite was and still is the gold standard of the SD era, like HDMI is for HD.
Regardless of what you have seen in the US, these consoles are being sold in a global market where RGB is more common. And there are plenty of people in the US taking advantage of the signal without a framemeister. By the way, VGA is a form of RGB that plenty televisions in the US accept, not to mention PC monitors.
Also I think you just made up that "composite gold standard of SD era" bit off the top of your head, and you don't know what the phrase means. As in the best, most prestigious thing of its kind, even if rare. Composite was not the best at all. RGB and S Video were both better standard definition signals, and S Video was common in the US. Maybe you meant most common? It wasn't that either, RF was.
I can't even quote all the misinformation and opinions spouted as fact in this thread since I'm on mobile, maybe I wouldn't want to anyway with the way people make shit up.
"The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."
It will take a powerful FPGA to pull off SNES, and Neo Geo is beyond reach for the time being.
While I don't doubt that using an FPGA for either task would be inordinately complex, I am skeptical that it would be a technical impossibility due to some innate limitations of a higher-end FPGA.
I don't get the front vs toploading when it comes to AVS vs the NT, unless you just like to see the cart and its label stick up while in the console.
Personally, I look at the TV when I play games.
Personally, I'd prefer a cartridge as tall as an NES cartridge to be concealed in the console so it doesn't get bumped by rampaging children or hit by my dog's big-ass tail.
Originally posted by: arch_8ngel
Originally posted by: BertBerryCrunch
Originally posted by: Tulpa
I don't get the front vs toploading when it comes to AVS vs the NT, unless you just like to see the cart and its label stick up while in the console.
Personally, I look at the TV when I play games.
Personally, I'd prefer a cartridge as tall as an NES cartridge to be concealed in the console so it doesn't get bumped by rampaging children or hit by my dog's big-ass tail.
I too prefer the cart to be kept in an enclosed space. Also, the entertainment center that the AVS will be going into doesn't have much vertical space to play with. So having a lower profile is definitely the way to go.