What machine is this game / cartridge for?

Back in June or July I had purchased a set of games locally, and it had contained about 80% Famicom and 20% Sega Genesis.  But inside the set was also this, er thing.



Judging from the case, it appears to be some sort of educational cartridge, though it doesn't go with the 16 bit Lico Educational machine I have.  Chinese text suggests it was from some sort of local machine I guess.  Any ideas on what this goes with?



I also have a few other "mysterious" cartridges, I might post here later if there is interest.  I doubt anyone can solve these mysteries, but it could be fun to post and see.     



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  • If it's any help, it looks like it says 幼
  • Having next to no knowledge about most of the more "exotic" systems, looking at the board, it looks like something for gameboy.
  • @Tyler: Thanks for the help! From my (limited) Chinese ability, I would agree with both of those translations, or maybe suggest Pre School Mathematics even as an alternative. BTW, your gf speaks Chinese? Nice! Mine is Taiwanese  



    @Randy: It is definitely too large to be a GB cart, I've taken more pics to compare the size. I got this with a bunch of other games and although I could have cherry-picked and let this one out, I just hated to do so as I am so curious as to what this game (probably educational software most likely) goes towards.



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    Also as promised, here is another "game" cartridge for an unknown machine:



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    The cart is too fat to be a Famicom or Sega Genesis cart, almost double the size in width.



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    From the title, it is American war or something like that.



    A size comparison pic:



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    And another:



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  • I would guess that the oddball carts are probably meant for some sort of clone system which was doing its own thing. The fat "Famicom" cartridge likely was "exclusive" to a Famiclone which happened to have a wider/thicker cartridge slot.
  • Originally posted by: darkchylde28



    I would guess that the oddball carts are probably meant for some sort of clone system which was doing its own thing. The fat "Famicom" cartridge likely was "exclusive" to a Famiclone which happened to have a wider/thicker cartridge slot.

    I don't think it will run in any of my Famicom machines, but I'll take apart a few of my clones (allowing free / wide access to the cartridge slot) and then see what happens if I try to run it     I'll keep everyone posted.  



     
  • Maybe it's for the MSX,it has the same 50 pins.
  • I have no idea. Did you think to maybe ask the seller?
  • Originally posted by: tracker465

     
    Originally posted by: darkchylde28



    I would guess that the oddball carts are probably meant for some sort of clone system which was doing its own thing. The fat "Famicom" cartridge likely was "exclusive" to a Famiclone which happened to have a wider/thicker cartridge slot.

    I don't think it will run in any of my Famicom machines, but I'll take apart a few of my clones (allowing free / wide access to the cartridge slot) and then see what happens if I try to run it     I'll keep everyone posted.  



     

    Be careful about taking carts out of their shell and inserting them into other system. If it doesn't belong or is inserted backwards, you might blow something.



    For instance, SMS and N64 have identical numbers of pins and spacing, and although the SMS board is slightly thicker, can be forced cart and all into an N64 system. I imagine bad things might happen if that system were booted up with game inserted.



     
  • Pretty sure that fat cart is not an MSX cart. All the ones I've seen are slab sided (no lip). Even the pirate stuff seems to have the same form factor. Can you pop the case open and take shots of the inside? 50 pin, 60 pin? What kind of board? Are there actually chips on there, or is it a glop top? The case does smack of pirate cart though.
  • Originally posted by: Kosmic StarDust

     
    Originally posted by: tracker465

     
    Originally posted by: darkchylde28



    I would guess that the oddball carts are probably meant for some sort of clone system which was doing its own thing. The fat "Famicom" cartridge likely was "exclusive" to a Famiclone which happened to have a wider/thicker cartridge slot.

    I don't think it will run in any of my Famicom machines, but I'll take apart a few of my clones (allowing free / wide access to the cartridge slot) and then see what happens if I try to run it     I'll keep everyone posted.  



     

    Be careful about taking carts out of their shell and inserting them into other system. If it doesn't belong or is inserted backwards, you might blow something.



    For instance, SMS and N64 have identical numbers of pins and spacing, and although the SMS board is slightly thicker, can be forced cart and all into an N64 system. I imagine bad things might happen if that system were booted up with game inserted.



     

    Thanks for opening this can of worms. Now I really want to try doing this.



     
  • Sounds like an odd cartridge.

    Good luck trying to find the system for it.
  • What immediately entered my mind seeing it is the Sega SG-100. There's a good number of unlicensed games on that system, wouldn't be surprised this is one of them.



    Edit: Pin count doesn't match, I'm way off I guess!
  • Originally posted by: Kosmic StarDust

     
    Originally posted by: tracker465

     
    Originally posted by: darkchylde28



    I would guess that the oddball carts are probably meant for some sort of clone system which was doing its own thing. The fat "Famicom" cartridge likely was "exclusive" to a Famiclone which happened to have a wider/thicker cartridge slot.

    I don't think it will run in any of my Famicom machines, but I'll take apart a few of my clones (allowing free / wide access to the cartridge slot) and then see what happens if I try to run it     I'll keep everyone posted.  



     

    Be careful about taking carts out of their shell and inserting them into other system. If it doesn't belong or is inserted backwards, you might blow something.



    For instance, SMS and N64 have identical numbers of pins and spacing, and although the SMS board is slightly thicker, can be forced cart and all into an N64 system. I imagine bad things might happen if that system were booted up with game inserted.



     

    Thanks for the warning!  I'm still going to try it though, with one of my (cheap) clones (not the good / expensive / old ones), though I doubt anything will happen at all either good or bad.  



     
  • Originally posted by: Shoggoth80



    Pretty sure that fat cart is not an MSX cart. All the ones I've seen are slab sided (no lip). Even the pirate stuff seems to have the same form factor. Can you pop the case open and take shots of the inside? 50 pin, 60 pin? What kind of board? Are there actually chips on there, or is it a glop top? The case does smack of pirate cart though.

    Not sure if I can do this or not.  I'll take a look when I get back home from work (if I'm not too tired), and see if I can do so, and if it's a go, I'll take pics.



     
  • Originally posted by: BertBerryCrunch



    I have no idea. Did you think to maybe ask the seller?

    The seller also had no idea what machine this cartridge was for, and he sold it as being for an unknown machine.



     
  • Originally posted by: Baddieboy Holden



    Sounds like an odd cartridge.

    Good luck trying to find the system for it.

    Thanks!  For stuff like this, I doubt anything superb is being missed, but it would be neat to find the host and then be able to get the game up and running, just to see what exactly it is.  I love a good mystery, hence why I bought this to begin with.  A few years back I had bought a few Lico Cai Machine game cartridges, and then eventually did find a machine (and realize) that it went to the carts I had, being able to solve one mystery.  Here is my writing about that machine:



    https://fcgamer.wordpress.com/2014/09/21/those-mysterious-cai-carts/



    Interestingly enough, it was almost two years ago, to the date, when I had made that discovery.  Must be something about this weather that makes me interested in the mystery carts.



     
  • Originally posted by: introless



    What immediately entered my mind seeing it is the Sega SG-100. There's a good number of unlicensed games on that system, wouldn't be surprised this is one of them.



    Edit: Pin count doesn't match, I'm way off I guess!

    Hmm, too bad you have no ideas either.  Just gotta keep searching.



     
  • I'm 99% sure the VCCP cart is a bootleg B-Wings cart for Famicom. The other 1% says that it's a bootleg cart using B-Wings art and could be anything for any system  
  • Originally posted by: NESMASTER14



    I'm 99% sure the VCCP cart is a bootleg B-Wings cart for Famicom. The other 1% says that it's a bootleg cart using B-Wings art and could be anything for any system  





    Can't be for any system, it has like 2x as many pins as an MSX.  I can't think of anything it could be other than a fat famicom



    The 128k throws me off and makes me think computer.  But they might just be talking about the size of the cart.  Or they might have just stolen random artwork and that was on it. 
  • Well I'm soon off for bed. It's late and I'm really tired, had to work all day as well as the evening.



    With that said, a few more discoveries on the latter cart:



    It seems the cart has 62 pins, 31 on each side. I opened up one of my Famiclones and the cartridge will not fit into the machine, it is slightly too long (which can be explained above).



    I tried to open the case up, but I can't seem to do so without taking risk of breaking it. I'll investigate this more later.



    Regarding 128k, a lot of (bootleg) Famicom games used to have sizes like this handwritten on the top of the carts (where a label would be) back in the day, I suppose by shopkeepers. So seeing this sort of information on a cartridge really doesn't shock me too much.
  • Text in the middle (directly after the 128K) states: "Computer Video Games", or literally reads "Computer TV Game Console".
  • If it really is 128k game, that would leave out the PV-1000. I didn't know it had any bootlegs anyways. Way too old looking for a loopy cart, and, yea, it's not a dress up game so who would bootleg it. The two sharp computers I thought had cart ports, but I can't seem to find any info on them. Too many pins for any weird mark 3 clones.



    Umm.. and it's not some weird super famicom game, right? Just making sure cause of the 62 pins.
  • Originally posted by: tracker465

     
    Originally posted by: Baddieboy Holden



    Sounds like an odd cartridge.

    Good luck trying to find the system for it.

    Thanks!  For stuff like this, I doubt anything superb is being missed, but it would be neat to find the host and then be able to get the game up and running, just to see what exactly it is.  I love a good mystery, hence why I bought this to begin with.  A few years back I had bought a few Lico Cai Machine game cartridges, and then eventually did find a machine (and realize) that it went to the carts I had, being able to solve one mystery.  Here is my writing about that machine:



    https://fcgamer.wordpress.com/201...



    Interestingly enough, it was almost two years ago, to the date, when I had made that discovery.  Must be something about this weather that makes me interested in the mystery carts.



     

    I just had a read of the blog post. 

    Very interesting stuff. This isn't everyday items you're dealing with. Fascinating.   



     
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