New AVGN episode on the Berstein Bears and the Mendela effect.

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  • Originally posted by: jonebone



    Continuing the logo in a logo discussion, Wendy's has Mom on the neck.



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    Clearly says "Mi
  • Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos

     
    Originally posted by: jonebone



    Continuing the logo in a logo discussion, Wendy's has Mom on the neck.



    image



    Clearly says "Mi
  • "Luke, I am your father"



    and



    "Mirror Mirror on the wall"



    were never said in their respective movies.
  • Originally posted by: SnowSauce



    "Luke, I am your father"



    and



    "Mirror Mirror on the wall"



    were never said in their respective movies.



    I think these stem from a general misquote from something like a parody or some such thing and just snoballed from there. As I've said before, the Luke line only makes sense if one isn't too familiar with the scene in question, especially the dialogue leading up to it.

     
  • Originally posted by: Jerbilly

     
    Originally posted by: SnowSauce



    "Luke, I am your father"



    and



    "Mirror Mirror on the wall"



    were never said in their respective movies.



    I think these stem from a general misquote from something like a parody or some such thing and just snoballed from there. As I've said before, the Luke line only makes sense if one isn't too familiar with the scene in question, especially the dialogue leading up to it.

     



    Yeah. I think most people who say "Luke" haven't really watched the movies.



    Not that I have or anything.

     
  • Heheh, I meant that they haven't refamiliarized themselves as some of us have. I probably watch the original trilogy a lot more than most do. Considering how memory works it isn't a surprise. The only real surprise is how ignorant people can be of such things and then buy into some crackpot theories hahaha
  • Originally posted by: Jerbilly

    You're thinking of a sqouija.






    and you sir are thinking about hot dogs!

    Look at that I'm a damn mind reader!  
  • Originally posted by: Tulpa

     
    Originally posted by: Nirvana

     
    Originally posted by: Tulpa



    Pretty funny episode. Kind of wish he touched upon the Diddy's Kong Quest/Diddy Kong's Quest one, too.



     



    Eh?

     

    There are people who swear they remember Diddy's Kong Quest as Diddy Kong's Quest.



     

    I think that one is more of a matter of kids messing it up because Diddy Kong's Quest would make much more sense if there was no play on words there. I was just a kid myself when that game came out, but I distinctly remember thinking "Diddy's Kong Quest? Ohh, like "Conquest!"" at the time. That example is easily and logically explained.



    The Mandela Effect is something a bit different. For example: In my 2nd or 3rd grade class, I very vividly remember there being arguments in class (very mature ones as you can imagine) about how to pronounce "Berenstein". A few thought it was bear-en-stain, bear-en-stein (like beer stein), with the vast majority (myself included) pronouncing it "bear-en-steen". The post Mandela-Effect spelling of BerenSTAIN renders all of those very vivid childhood memories as pretty "wtf", especially considering that supposedly, this was and has always been the spelling, not something that changed when I turned 10 or something. That is truly bizarre, and defies simple explanation. Same with those (some of whom I work with), who will swear UP AND DOWN that Nelson Mandela was assassinated in the 1980's, and that it was all over the news. I have seen two grown men at work calling each other crazy, one for thinking that Nelson Mandela was dead when he is clearly alive, and the other for somehow having avoided the news that Nelson Mandela was assassinated in the 80's. "What rock were you living under when it was all over the news reports day and night that this guy was killed?! It was worldwide front-page news! You're crazy!"

    "I was living under the rock called 'reality', because Nelson Mandela is clearly still alive! You're crazy!"



     
  • The bizarre part is how some memories seem to work.
  • Originally posted by: Jerbilly



    The bizarre part is how some memories seem to work.





    I know that concrete-logical people (me included, or even especially) typically cringe at other people's want for just the tiniest sprinkling of magic/the supernatural in their lives, believe me I do. I can assure you I'm not that guy, and I can also assure you that cloudy/selective memory does not play at all into what I typed above. Maybe the guys talking about Mandela might be remembering things foggy as I tell the story second-hand, but my first-hand accounts of 7 year-old me arguing about the proper pronuciation of Berenstein are as vivid and fresh as events that took place recently. My overimaginative coworker was so passionate about this whole thing, he even made it a point to go around and ask everyone we work with how to spell the name of that book series. Each and every one, probably 15/15 said "B-e-r-e-n-s-t-e-i-n Bears", with no context or prefacing to the question at all. If the books were always called the Berenstain Bears, then yes, that would be very bizarre for how 15 out of 15 people's memories all glitched in the exact same way without any collusion between them at all.



    I don't claim to have an explanation for it and I'm certainly not throwing any goofy theories out there, but yeah. Can't ignore what you've personally observed.
  • Oh, I'm definitely picking up what you're laying down. I just find it endlessly amusing.
  • Originally posted by: Quazonk

    If the books were always called the Berenstain Bears, then yes, that would be very bizarre for how 15 out of 15 people's memories all glitched in the exact same way without any collusion between them at all.

     

    People have weird shared experiences with no explanation quite often.



    I think with Berenstain, we're so used to seeing names with "stein" in them that "stain" somehow doesn't fit right, and we mentally swap it out.



    As I posted before, the name was derived from Ukranian, which uses a different alphabet, and "stain" was the closest transliteration they could find to get their pronunciation of their own name correct.



     
  • Originally posted by: Tulpa

     
    Originally posted by: Quazonk

    If the books were always called the Berenstain Bears, then yes, that would be very bizarre for how 15 out of 15 people's memories all glitched in the exact same way without any collusion between them at all.

     

    People have weird shared experiences with no explanation quite often.



     



    Then that phenomenon should be observed and studied as well.



     
  • I really enjoyed this past episode of AVGN. He had really strayed away from this classic plot driven videos and gone with really bland "reviews" ever since he finished his film. IT definitely reminded me of the old days. An the topic had me laughing as I and everyone I know all remember those books the same way.
  • I remember it as BerenstAin 100%. It sounds stupid but I've always been very cognizant of spelling to the very letter and this did not throw me at all. To hear the after effect decades later is quite entertaining though! I also distinctly remember enjoying the title of Diddy's Kong Quest in 1995 for it's wordplay and it wasn't until a few years ago I heard of the confusion as Diddy Kong's Quest. Rare has been clever throughout the DK series, this was no surprise.
  • Originally posted by: Kid Dracula



    I remember it as BerenstAin 100%. It sounds stupid but I've always been very cognizant of spelling to the very letter and this did not throw me at all. To hear the after effect decades later is quite entertaining though! I also distinctly remember enjoying the title of Diddy's Kong Quest in 1995 for it's wordplay and it wasn't until a few years ago I heard of the confusion as Diddy Kong's Quest. Rare has been clever throughout the DK series, this was no surprise.



    I understand the Berenstein/Berenstain confusion. It's much more common for names to end in "stein" so that's how a lot of people read it.



    However, people remembering Jif peanut butter as "Jiffy"... Now that's getting ridiculous. Choosy moms choose Jif not Jiffy!.





     
  • I remember in junior high arguing about green eggs & ham, is the ham green too? It was about a 50/50 split down the middle arguing both sides.
  • In my Mandela effect universe, the author Piers Anthony died of Stomach cancer in the early 2000s and Roy Horn died from his tiger dragging him by the neck. I was pretty surprised to find them both very much alive. Also, that whole thing with Sally Field(s) is freaking me out.
  • Originally posted by: Quazonk

     
    Originally posted by: Tulpa

     
    Originally posted by: Quazonk

    If the books were always called the Berenstain Bears, then yes, that would be very bizarre for how 15 out of 15 people's memories all glitched in the exact same way without any collusion between them at all.

     

    People have weird shared experiences with no explanation quite often.



     



    Then that phenomenon should be observed and studied as well.



     



    It has been, going all the way back to Jung.
  • Over the months I've come to find this "theory" incredibly dumb....can these people just kool aid themselves?







    One of the latest "theories" is that the Xbox logo has changed in our reality. And the comments section overwhelmingly agrees. What a bunch of morons  
  • Anyone remember Sinbad starring as a genie in a movie called Shazam?



    Well then you're wrong because that movie doesn't exist, never did. There is a movie starring Shaq called Kazaam though.









    The strange thing about this. I only know Sinbad exists because of two reasons. #1 the good burger movie, and #2 SHAZAM. So WHY do I remember this movie along with almost the entire internet...yet there's no proof of such a movie existing?
  • Originally posted by: JosephLeo



    Anyone remember Sinbad starring as a genie in a movie called Shazam?



    Well then you're wrong because that movie doesn't exist, never did. There is a movie starring Shaq called Kazaam though.









    The strange thing about this. I only know Sinbad exists because of two reasons. #1 the good burger movie, and #2 SHAZAM. So WHY do I remember this movie along with almost the entire internet...yet there's no proof of such a movie existing?





    What the hell? I feel like I can picture the movie poster with shazam and sinbad lol



    the whole mandela effect thing trips me out
  • Originally posted by: MrWunderful

    Originally posted by: JosephLeo



    Anyone remember Sinbad starring as a genie in a movie called Shazam?



    Well then you're wrong because that movie doesn't exist, never did. There is a movie starring Shaq called Kazaam though.









    The strange thing about this. I only know Sinbad exists because of two reasons. #1 the good burger movie, and #2 SHAZAM. So WHY do I remember this movie along with almost the entire internet...yet there's no proof of such a movie existing?





    What the hell? I feel like I can picture the movie poster with shazam and sinbad lol



    the whole mandela effect thing trips me out



    I know right? Out of all the wacky Melatonin.....mantle....maple syrup....mandolin whatever's I've read so far this is the only one that actually hits me. I literally can only imagine Sinbad in those two things and one of them isn't real...like how?
  • Just a quick note: The title of this thread ACTUALLY DOES have the name spelled incorrectly. It's missing a syllable.
  • I was never a bigger fan of movies than in the 90s, went to the rental store multiple times every week.

    I'm certain there was never a Shazam. I've known who Sinbad is my whole life. Watched him on A Different World (loved Dwayne Wayne as a kid) and I watched his sitcom with Selma Hayek. Both of those shows came before he

    had any sort of film career.











    Despite playing a genie as host of TNT's "Our Favorite Movies" in 1994, Or maybe people are remembering the episode of All That where Sinbad guest starred. He played Kenan Thompson's dad "Sinboo" in the Ishboo sketch.







    House Guest, First Kid, and Jingle All The Way were his big 3 movies. I rented them all. I also rented Shaquille's "Kazaam" when it was a new release, big NBA fan, this was BEFORE Space Jam too, Shaq's movie was definitely first. Not once did I think it was a ripoff of anything else or that it was de ja vu. You never saw ANY of those movies before Good Burger? It's strange to me that people don't list his movies that actually existed, but are like "I only know him from Shazam"



    Anyway Sinbad himself thinks the "Shazam" theory is ridiculous, and I agree, I have no idea how people came to mass fabricate this movie. I mean it sounds like a decent pitch, maybe it SHOULD have been made, but it certainly never existed in the life I have lived. I'm pretty sure "Kazaam" is even a preview on the VHS of "First Kid"
  • Even when people make memes about it they can't remember simple stuff correctly like abc family didn't exist in the 90s.

    It used to be Fox Family which had no association with Disney, and still, that channel did not exist until 1997.



  • The AVGN episode is hilarious. Does a pretty good job mocking the internet and the so-called "Mendela Effect".



    I think the Berenstein (as I would have spelled it) is just an example of the suffix of the last name generally being spelled "stein" as Tulpa mentioned the European name, or wherever, is usually "stein" so people remember that easier.



    So it's not really an example of The Mendela Effect, but moreso lots of people are used to spelling it differently.



    I think NA's example, as mentioned, Diddy's Kong Quest is a better example.... but again, that's just a play on words, and not surprising at all that a bunch of kids wold get it mixed up.

     
    Originally posted by: Ichinisan



    Just a quick note: The title of this thread ACTUALLY DOES have the name spelled incorrectly. It's missing a syllable.



    This is hilarious.



    Either the OP has trolled us this whole time, or they accidentally spelled it wrong, too.



    Back to the issue:

    Jerbilly said it best in the thread... We're just wrong. We were wrong on the spelling. No alternate universe where events were different. Just incorrect.



    The whole "Mendela Effect" is based around some lady believing something that was incorrect. Just because others had believed it too, because of whatever "fake news" or rumours, or hoaxes went around at the time, she's developed this "alternate dimension" theory.... when all along she could have just asked Jerbilly and he would have told her "No, you remembered it incorrectly... you're just wrong."
  • I do find it at least interesting when people are able to dig up specific pieces of evidence where things are spelled the way they thought they always were



    It is a bit interesting that even the official Three's Company trading cards spell Suzanne Somers name wrong,

    the way many people claim it "used" to be.



     



    I even found this plaque on eBay signed by Steven "Segal", who many people seem to have memories of being a big movie star









     







    There is also a pretty astounding collection of evidence that Sally Field's name was "Fields" for years

    I've even seen old Tonight Show footage from the late 70s where Johnny Carson is clearly calling her Sally "Fields'

    This is a name change that I see massive amounts of older people agreeing that they remember it this way.











    Also found a newspaper article from February 14, 1986 (4th paragraph) which continues to confirm that Sally Field's

    famous "You like me! You really like me!" from the year before changed to "You like me! Right now, you like me!" current day.

    This is the biggest line I see people swear was not a misquote and has genuinely changed

  • I don't know if this has already been mentioned, but a very interesting example of the Mandela Effect is a lot of people remembering Dolly from Moonraker flashing a mouth full of braces when she smiles in a particular scene, but now her teeth are perfect.



    This BBC news obituary of Richard Kiel describes the character as wearing braces. http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-29160096



    And this page describes the character as wearing braces next to a picture of her smiling with perfect teeth. http://www.universalexports.net/Movies/moonraker-cast.shtml



    I have to admit this is a weird one. I guess that it make so much sense for her to be wearing braces for humorous effect that everyone expects it and that expectation has created false memories. Or we switched to an alternate reality with a different Moonraker.
  • I just had something like this happen to me. I happened to look at my copy of Qix for the NES, which was one of the first 200 games I got, and one I play pretty often, and I just noticed there was a copyright sign next to the "QIX" inscription on the end label, even though I have looked at it many times and I swear it did not have it before.
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