some people just arnt able to understand. this thread just runs in loops over and over. its very interesting. responding with words would just be repetition. if neckbeards really believe they know better marketing strategies than the heads of an 18billion dollar company... lol pictures are the only way to do the job.
^^ thank you for posing a new thought tho. it was a refreshing change from the last half of this thread. ^^
I can't tell you the level of that Canadian collectors feel in this financial climate. Every time I send someone money via paypal in USD, the number that comes up in the currency converter is shocking. Definitely makes it much more attractive to collect using local FB groups etc to save on exchange and shipping. Even an average-sized console box or something costs $60 USD to ship from the US to Canada. That's close to $90 CDN in shipping. Anything other than lot deals or big-ticket items are really not worth the $$ at the moment.
some people just arnt able to understand. this thread just runs in loops over and over.
The point that you keep missing is that this demand isn't permanent. Many people have pointed out how delays discourage both casual gamers and serious collectors. Every single example is anecdotal, but eventually, they add up. It's true that this product is already successful and will likely continue to be; all anyone is saying is that it could be much more so. Throw around Econ 101 all you want, but the NES Classic is not guns and butter.
some people just arnt able to understand. this thread just runs in loops over and over.
The point that you keep missing is that this demand isn't permanent. Many people have pointed out how delays discourage both casual gamers and serious collectors. Every single example is anecdotal, but eventually, they add up. It's true that this product is already successful and will likely continue to be; all anyone is saying is that it could be much more so. Throw around Econ 101 all you want, but the NES Classic is not guns and butter.
Yeah I skimmed over the econ lesson. Truthfully there is some unknown maximum quantitity Nintendo can offload during the holidays. Yes, short stocking leads to fewer sales, but likewise overstocking leads to lost profits. And too much understock will just piss off fans. You don't want that. The ideal senario here is to generate hype by shorting stock, then flood the market while it's hot. If Nintendo can flood the market on Black Friday and maintain stock through the holidays, they can still stand to earn a lot of money on this thing. It worked for the Wii. They short stocked it for like a full year. It was early 2008 before you could just walk into any store on any day and buy one without getting lucky. And it sold 100 million units...
As I'm sure you'll recall, Wii was a "Revolution". Surely there are some lessons to take from it. And Nintendo has definitely had more success trading in nostalgia than any other video game company. But I don't believe this Console Lite with nothing new to offer has anywhere near as much potential, and that is borne out by the many people who have already given up on getting one less than two weeks after release, never mind 14 months +.
It's a novelty item that'll be forgotten after Xmas and there are already lots of people who are over it.
I live in the middle of nowhere and the NES Classic made the news for its shortages. I guarantee that it won't make the news again though, and the people (like my girlfriend for example) who couldn't grab one when it was a "hot item" won't bother until they hit the bargain bin next year.
Had an odd deal this week. Went to Walmart to see if they had the system and, of course, sold out, but they had one of the 3rd party edge brand controllers with turbo buttons and a 9 ft cable for $15. I decide to go ahead and pick it up for when I get a system and go to check out. They scan and the computer says sale not authorized or something to that effect. They call someone else up and they said the controllers has been recalled and shouldn't even have been on the shelf. So, they wouldn't sell it to me.
some people just arnt able to understand. this thread just runs in loops over and over. its very interesting. responding with words would just be repetition. if neckbeards really believe they know better marketing strategies than the heads of an 18billion dollar company... lol pictures are the only way to do the job.
^^ thank you for posing a new thought tho. it was a refreshing change from the last half of this thread. ^^
Lol you sound like a dick.
So what else is new? I always assumed he was a teenager from the way he comes off here but I'm pretty are he's too old for that.
Had an odd deal this week. Went to Walmart to see if they had the system and, of course, sold out, but they had one of the 3rd party edge brand controllers with turbo buttons and a 9 ft cable for $15. I decide to go ahead and pick it up for when I get a system and go to check out. They scan and the computer says sale not authorized or something to that effect. They call someone else up and they said the controllers has been recalled and shouldn't even have been on the shelf. So, they wouldn't sell it to me.
Yeah I was lucky to get mine when it dropped. It's a really sweet controller for Virtual Console use with excellent build quality. I'm hacking mine up and converting it for use with NES/AVS.
some people just arnt able to understand. this thread just runs in loops over and over.
The point that you keep missing is that this demand isn't permanent. Many people have pointed out how delays discourage both casual gamers and serious collectors. Every single example is anecdotal, but eventually, they add up. It's true that this product is already successful and will likely continue to be; all anyone is saying is that it could be much more so. Throw around Econ 101 all you want, but the NES Classic is not guns and butter.
i am getting that point loud and clear. its an oppinion tho. and imo every single person being salty about not getting one will complain about the scenario to firends family and even in online forums further pushing the nes classic infamy and thus help its marketing campaign.
and the point that nobody else is talking about is the oppinion that if nintendo did meet demand (or exeed it.) they would not have been in the headlines for the last 10 days getting tons of free maketing towards the casual (which is where the real money is.) and maybe would have wound up being a important and note worthy and the atari flashback or the sega remake.
The ideal senario here is to generate hype by shorting stock, then flood the market while it's hot. If Nintendo can flood the market on Black Friday and maintain stock through the holidays
i agree, i still dont think nintendo will be able to get ahead of the scalpers on this one tho, but this def seems to be the plan here.
some people just arnt able to understand. this thread just runs in loops over and over.
The point that you keep missing is that this demand isn't permanent. Many people have pointed out how delays discourage both casual gamers and serious collectors. Every single example is anecdotal, but eventually, they add up. It's true that this product is already successful and will likely continue to be; all anyone is saying is that it could be much more so. Throw around Econ 101 all you want, but the NES Classic is not guns and butter.
i am getting that point loud and clear. its an oppinion tho. and imo every single person being salty about not getting one will complain about the scenario to firends family and even in online forums further pushing the nes classic infamy and thus help its marketing campaign.
and the point that nobody else is talking about is the oppinion that if nintendo did meet demand (or exeed it.) they would not have been in the headlines for the last 10 days getting tons of free maketing towards the casual (which is where the real money is.) and maybe would have wound up being a important and note worthy and the atari flashback or the sega remake.
Dude who cares if people are salty? This is a game forum, where we discuss things like this. If people are upset, THIS IS the place to talk about it. Maybe you should just stay out of this thread from now on
some people just arnt able to understand. this thread just runs in loops over and over.
The point that you keep missing is that this demand isn't permanent. Many people have pointed out how delays discourage both casual gamers and serious collectors. Every single example is anecdotal, but eventually, they add up. It's true that this product is already successful and will likely continue to be; all anyone is saying is that it could be much more so. Throw around Econ 101 all you want, but the NES Classic is not guns and butter.
i am getting that point loud and clear. its an oppinion tho. and imo every single person being salty about not getting one will complain about the scenario to firends family and even in online forums further pushing the nes classic infamy and thus help its marketing campaign.
and the point that nobody else is talking about is the oppinion that if nintendo did meet demand (or exeed it.) they would not have been in the headlines for the last 10 days getting tons of free maketing towards the casual (which is where the real money is.) and maybe would have wound up being a important and note worthy and the atari flashback or the sega remake.
Dude who cares if people are salty? This is a game forum, where we discuss things like this. If people are upset, THIS IS the place to talk about it. Maybe you should just stay out of this thread from now on
Nintendo doesn't care whether a scalper or gamer buys it, a sale is a sale. They also would rather err on the side of caution and produce too few (creating hype) than too many (creating overstock and unsold units). Sure, they probably could have produce more initially now that hindsight is 20/20, but it would have been impossible to forecast the exact right amount.
For all of the comments about people falling out of the market, Nintendo doesn't care. There's a lot more people in the market based on hype and speculative rarity than those falling out. You can't please everyone anyway.
I can't tell you the level of that Canadian collectors feel in this financial climate. Every time I send someone money via paypal in USD, the number that comes up in the currency converter is shocking. Definitely makes it much more attractive to collect using local FB groups etc to save on exchange and shipping. Even an average-sized console box or something costs $60 USD to ship from the US to Canada. That's close to $90 CDN in shipping. Anything other than lot deals or big-ticket items are really not worth the $$ at the moment.
what really got me was seeing 3ds games at Walmart for 55-60 and wiiu games for 85-90
Nintendo doesn't care whether a scalper or gamer buys it, a sale is a sale. They also would rather err on the side of caution and produce too few (creating hype) than too many (creating overstock and unsold units). Sure, they probably could have produce more initially now that hindsight is 20/20, but it would have been impossible to forecast the exact right amount.
For all of the comments about people falling out of the market, Nintendo doesn't care. There's a lot more people in the market based on hype and speculative rarity than those falling out. You can't please everyone anyway.
This is why they should have taken pre-orders for it?
When you don't do pre-orders for a physical good that can sell out, but do pre-orders for digital goods that have unlimited supply, you know your plan is flawed.
The first retailer to start allowing back-orders will get so many sales. I really wish I could just order the damn official controller on Amazon and forget about it. I'm OK with waiting for it to come in stock there because I know I'll get it promptly.
I can't tell you the level of that Canadian collectors feel in this financial climate. Every time I send someone money via paypal in USD, the number that comes up in the currency converter is shocking. Definitely makes it much more attractive to collect using local FB groups etc to save on exchange and shipping. Even an average-sized console box or something costs $60 USD to ship from the US to Canada. That's close to $90 CDN in shipping. Anything other than lot deals or big-ticket items are really not worth the $$ at the moment.
what really got me was seeing 3ds games at Walmart for 55-60 and wiiu games for 85-90
That makes me want to vomit with rage! That's terrible.
The first retailer to start allowing back-orders will get so many sales. I really wish I could just order the damn official controller on Amazon and forget about it. I'm OK with waiting for it to come in stock there because I know I'll get it promptly.
And your order will sit in limbo indefinitely or get cancelled after the item is discontinued. Do you really want to wait six months for them to tell you your order is cancelled and refund the money? You are basically giving them an interest free loan, and that's assuming they don't file chapter 11 or otherwise disappear off the face of the Earth.
What if it turns out they are still backstocked and you see stacks of the item in a store? Will they respond to your inquiry and cancel your order and refund your money in a timely fashion?
I'd honestly rather pay a scalper (one who actually has item in hand) than give someone my money when I'm not sure if I'll ever recieve the product or not.
So, have any actual gamers reported bugs or other issues with the NES Classic? If this is like other Nintendo products, we might, and probably will, see more revisions of this system before they eventually release one with more and/or different titles. Which could make holding out on buying one actually beneficial to those interested in playing it, rather than sticking it on a shelf.
The first retailer to start allowing back-orders will get so many sales. I really wish I could just order the damn official controller on Amazon and forget about it. I'm OK with waiting for it to come in stock there because I know I'll get it promptly.
And your order will sit in limbo indefinitely or get cancelled after the item is discontinued. Do you really want to wait six months for them to tell you your order is cancelled and refund the money? You are basically giving them an interest free loan, and that's assuming they don't file chapter 11 or otherwise disappear off the face of the Earth.
What if it turns out they are still backstocked and you see stacks of the item in a store? Will they respond to your inquiry and cancel your order and refund your money in a timely fashion?
I'd honestly rather pay a scalper (one who actually has item in hand) than give someone my money when I'm not sure if I'll ever recieve the product or not.
Amazon, Walmart, Target, or GameStop. If they have actual order numbers, they can get Nintendo to fill them.
If they'd let me, I'd be more than comfortable ordering a console or controller on Amazon and I'd just relax while I wait for them to get stock.
I can't tell you the level of that Canadian collectors feel in this financial climate. Every time I send someone money via paypal in USD, the number that comes up in the currency converter is shocking. Definitely makes it much more attractive to collect using local FB groups etc to save on exchange and shipping. Even an average-sized console box or something costs $60 USD to ship from the US to Canada. That's close to $90 CDN in shipping. Anything other than lot deals or big-ticket items are really not worth the $$ at the moment.
what really got me was seeing 3ds games at Walmart for 55-60 and wiiu games for 85-90
Join Amazon Prime and preorder games, save 20% right off the get go. I got Pokemon Sun and Moon with the steelbook for $74.99.
So, have any actual gamers reported bugs or other issues with the NES Classic? If this is like other Nintendo products, we might, and probably will, see more revisions of this system before they eventually release one with more and/or different titles. Which could make holding out on buying one actually beneficial to those interested in playing it, rather than sticking it on a shelf.
I get this strange screen melt intermittently in lots of games. Now I've tried different TVs and they all do it.
Also, the controller's D-pad sensing unintended diagonals all the time is a HUGE annoyance. Can't walk past stairs in Castlevania because your character always walks up/down when you don't want him to. Can't push a block in Zelda because Link keeps stepping around it. Can't crouch in Super Mario Bros. 3 because Mario will start walking forward.
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Even just holding up while punching repeatedly in Punch Out, Little Mac starts dodging repeatedly instead of punching -- while the opponent is still stunned, waiting for me to hit him.
Also, the controller's D-pad sensing unintended diagonals all the time is a HUGE annoyance. Can't walk past stairs in Castlevania because your character always walks up/down when you don't want him to. Can't push a block in Zelda because Link keeps stepping around it. Can't crouch in Super Mario Bros. 3 because Mario will start walking forward.
So even if these controllers were plentiful and cheap, so much for people trying to use the controllers as upgrades by simply dropping in old PCBs. Even the silicone pads in these thingies look clonish. I imagine the issue could be the dome at the base of the Dpad simply not being tall enough.
Best stick to the aftermarket replacement pads. I just bought a pack of ten on eBay and installed them into two slightly questionable controlers, and they seem to work great. Feels slightly firmer than stock, but that's probably more likely due to years of membrane wear on used controllers than anything.
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some people just arnt able to understand. this thread just runs in loops over and over. its very interesting. responding with words would just be repetition. if neckbeards really believe they know better marketing strategies than the heads of an 18billion dollar company... lol pictures are the only way to do the job.
^^ thank you for posing a new thought tho. it was a refreshing change from the last half of this thread. ^^
Lol you sound like a dick.
"$80?" It's only $60
$80 in Canada.
I can't tell you the level of that Canadian collectors feel in this financial climate. Every time I send someone money via paypal in USD, the number that comes up in the currency converter is shocking. Definitely makes it much more attractive to collect using local FB groups etc to save on exchange and shipping. Even an average-sized console box or something costs $60 USD to ship from the US to Canada. That's close to $90 CDN in shipping. Anything other than lot deals or big-ticket items are really not worth the $$ at the moment.
some people just arnt able to understand. this thread just runs in loops over and over.
The point that you keep missing is that this demand isn't permanent. Many people have pointed out how delays discourage both casual gamers and serious collectors. Every single example is anecdotal, but eventually, they add up. It's true that this product is already successful and will likely continue to be; all anyone is saying is that it could be much more so. Throw around Econ 101 all you want, but the NES Classic is not guns and butter.
some people just arnt able to understand. this thread just runs in loops over and over.
The point that you keep missing is that this demand isn't permanent. Many people have pointed out how delays discourage both casual gamers and serious collectors. Every single example is anecdotal, but eventually, they add up. It's true that this product is already successful and will likely continue to be; all anyone is saying is that it could be much more so. Throw around Econ 101 all you want, but the NES Classic is not guns and butter.
Yeah I skimmed over the econ lesson. Truthfully there is some unknown maximum quantitity Nintendo can offload during the holidays. Yes, short stocking leads to fewer sales, but likewise overstocking leads to lost profits. And too much understock will just piss off fans. You don't want that. The ideal senario here is to generate hype by shorting stock, then flood the market while it's hot. If Nintendo can flood the market on Black Friday and maintain stock through the holidays, they can still stand to earn a lot of money on this thing. It worked for the Wii. They short stocked it for like a full year. It was early 2008 before you could just walk into any store on any day and buy one without getting lucky. And it sold 100 million units...
It's a novelty item that'll be forgotten after Xmas and there are already lots of people who are over it.
I live in the middle of nowhere and the NES Classic made the news for its shortages. I guarantee that it won't make the news again though, and the people (like my girlfriend for example) who couldn't grab one when it was a "hot item" won't bother until they hit the bargain bin next year.
some people just arnt able to understand. this thread just runs in loops over and over. its very interesting. responding with words would just be repetition. if neckbeards really believe they know better marketing strategies than the heads of an 18billion dollar company... lol pictures are the only way to do the job.
^^ thank you for posing a new thought tho. it was a refreshing change from the last half of this thread. ^^
Lol you sound like a dick.
So what else is new? I always assumed he was a teenager from the way he comes off here but I'm pretty are he's too old for that.
Originally posted by: guitarzombie
Im not crying, im just pointing out whats killing this 'hobby'. I dont have to PM ya, I want everyone else to see yer responses .
It's been killing this hobby since i joined 6 years ago.... except it hasn't killed the hobby and it's only increased since
Had an odd deal this week. Went to Walmart to see if they had the system and, of course, sold out, but they had one of the 3rd party edge brand controllers with turbo buttons and a 9 ft cable for $15. I decide to go ahead and pick it up for when I get a system and go to check out. They scan and the computer says sale not authorized or something to that effect. They call someone else up and they said the controllers has been recalled and shouldn't even have been on the shelf. So, they wouldn't sell it to me.
Yeah I was lucky to get mine when it dropped. It's a really sweet controller for Virtual Console use with excellent build quality. I'm hacking mine up and converting it for use with NES/AVS.
http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=22&threadid=168654
some people just arnt able to understand. this thread just runs in loops over and over.
The point that you keep missing is that this demand isn't permanent. Many people have pointed out how delays discourage both casual gamers and serious collectors. Every single example is anecdotal, but eventually, they add up. It's true that this product is already successful and will likely continue to be; all anyone is saying is that it could be much more so. Throw around Econ 101 all you want, but the NES Classic is not guns and butter.
i am getting that point loud and clear. its an oppinion tho. and imo every single person being salty about not getting one will complain about the scenario to firends family and even in online forums further pushing the nes classic infamy and thus help its marketing campaign.
and the point that nobody else is talking about is the oppinion that if nintendo did meet demand (or exeed it.) they would not have been in the headlines for the last 10 days getting tons of free maketing towards the casual (which is where the real money is.) and maybe would have wound up being a important and note worthy and the atari flashback or the sega remake.
The ideal senario here is to generate hype by shorting stock, then flood the market while it's hot. If Nintendo can flood the market on Black Friday and maintain stock through the holidays
i agree, i still dont think nintendo will be able to get ahead of the scalpers on this one tho, but this def seems to be the plan here.
some people just arnt able to understand. this thread just runs in loops over and over.
The point that you keep missing is that this demand isn't permanent. Many people have pointed out how delays discourage both casual gamers and serious collectors. Every single example is anecdotal, but eventually, they add up. It's true that this product is already successful and will likely continue to be; all anyone is saying is that it could be much more so. Throw around Econ 101 all you want, but the NES Classic is not guns and butter.
i am getting that point loud and clear. its an oppinion tho. and imo every single person being salty about not getting one will complain about the scenario to firends family and even in online forums further pushing the nes classic infamy and thus help its marketing campaign.
and the point that nobody else is talking about is the oppinion that if nintendo did meet demand (or exeed it.) they would not have been in the headlines for the last 10 days getting tons of free maketing towards the casual (which is where the real money is.) and maybe would have wound up being a important and note worthy and the atari flashback or the sega remake.
Dude who cares if people are salty? This is a game forum, where we discuss things like this. If people are upset, THIS IS the place to talk about it. Maybe you should just stay out of this thread from now on
some people just arnt able to understand. this thread just runs in loops over and over.
The point that you keep missing is that this demand isn't permanent. Many people have pointed out how delays discourage both casual gamers and serious collectors. Every single example is anecdotal, but eventually, they add up. It's true that this product is already successful and will likely continue to be; all anyone is saying is that it could be much more so. Throw around Econ 101 all you want, but the NES Classic is not guns and butter.
i am getting that point loud and clear. its an oppinion tho. and imo every single person being salty about not getting one will complain about the scenario to firends family and even in online forums further pushing the nes classic infamy and thus help its marketing campaign.
and the point that nobody else is talking about is the oppinion that if nintendo did meet demand (or exeed it.) they would not have been in the headlines for the last 10 days getting tons of free maketing towards the casual (which is where the real money is.) and maybe would have wound up being a important and note worthy and the atari flashback or the sega remake.
Dude who cares if people are salty? This is a game forum, where we discuss things like this. If people are upset, THIS IS the place to talk about it. Maybe you should just stay out of this thread from now on
no thanks. i like this thread
For all of the comments about people falling out of the market, Nintendo doesn't care. There's a lot more people in the market based on hype and speculative rarity than those falling out. You can't please everyone anyway.
"$80?" It's only $60
$80 in Canada.
I can't tell you the level of that Canadian collectors feel in this financial climate. Every time I send someone money via paypal in USD, the number that comes up in the currency converter is shocking. Definitely makes it much more attractive to collect using local FB groups etc to save on exchange and shipping. Even an average-sized console box or something costs $60 USD to ship from the US to Canada. That's close to $90 CDN in shipping. Anything other than lot deals or big-ticket items are really not worth the $$ at the moment.
what really got me was seeing 3ds games at Walmart for 55-60 and wiiu games for 85-90
Nintendo doesn't care whether a scalper or gamer buys it, a sale is a sale. They also would rather err on the side of caution and produce too few (creating hype) than too many (creating overstock and unsold units). Sure, they probably could have produce more initially now that hindsight is 20/20, but it would have been impossible to forecast the exact right amount.
For all of the comments about people falling out of the market, Nintendo doesn't care. There's a lot more people in the market based on hype and speculative rarity than those falling out. You can't please everyone anyway.
This is why they should have taken pre-orders for it?
When you don't do pre-orders for a physical good that can sell out, but do pre-orders for digital goods that have unlimited supply, you know your plan is flawed.
"$80?" It's only $60
$80 in Canada.
I can't tell you the level of that Canadian collectors feel in this financial climate. Every time I send someone money via paypal in USD, the number that comes up in the currency converter is shocking. Definitely makes it much more attractive to collect using local FB groups etc to save on exchange and shipping. Even an average-sized console box or something costs $60 USD to ship from the US to Canada. That's close to $90 CDN in shipping. Anything other than lot deals or big-ticket items are really not worth the $$ at the moment.
what really got me was seeing 3ds games at Walmart for 55-60 and wiiu games for 85-90
That makes me want to vomit with rage! That's terrible.
The first retailer to start allowing back-orders will get so many sales. I really wish I could just order the damn official controller on Amazon and forget about it. I'm OK with waiting for it to come in stock there because I know I'll get it promptly.
And your order will sit in limbo indefinitely or get cancelled after the item is discontinued. Do you really want to wait six months for them to tell you your order is cancelled and refund the money? You are basically giving them an interest free loan, and that's assuming they don't file chapter 11 or otherwise disappear off the face of the Earth.
What if it turns out they are still backstocked and you see stacks of the item in a store? Will they respond to your inquiry and cancel your order and refund your money in a timely fashion?
I'd honestly rather pay a scalper (one who actually has item in hand) than give someone my money when I'm not sure if I'll ever recieve the product or not.
The first retailer to start allowing back-orders will get so many sales. I really wish I could just order the damn official controller on Amazon and forget about it. I'm OK with waiting for it to come in stock there because I know I'll get it promptly.
And your order will sit in limbo indefinitely or get cancelled after the item is discontinued. Do you really want to wait six months for them to tell you your order is cancelled and refund the money? You are basically giving them an interest free loan, and that's assuming they don't file chapter 11 or otherwise disappear off the face of the Earth.
What if it turns out they are still backstocked and you see stacks of the item in a store? Will they respond to your inquiry and cancel your order and refund your money in a timely fashion?
I'd honestly rather pay a scalper (one who actually has item in hand) than give someone my money when I'm not sure if I'll ever recieve the product or not.
Amazon, Walmart, Target, or GameStop. If they have actual order numbers, they can get Nintendo to fill them.
If they'd let me, I'd be more than comfortable ordering a console or controller on Amazon and I'd just relax while I wait for them to get stock.
"$80?" It's only $60
$80 in Canada.
I can't tell you the level of that Canadian collectors feel in this financial climate. Every time I send someone money via paypal in USD, the number that comes up in the currency converter is shocking. Definitely makes it much more attractive to collect using local FB groups etc to save on exchange and shipping. Even an average-sized console box or something costs $60 USD to ship from the US to Canada. That's close to $90 CDN in shipping. Anything other than lot deals or big-ticket items are really not worth the $$ at the moment.
what really got me was seeing 3ds games at Walmart for 55-60 and wiiu games for 85-90
Join Amazon Prime and preorder games, save 20% right off the get go. I got Pokemon Sun and Moon with the steelbook for $74.99.
So, have any actual gamers reported bugs or other issues with the NES Classic? If this is like other Nintendo products, we might, and probably will, see more revisions of this system before they eventually release one with more and/or different titles. Which could make holding out on buying one actually beneficial to those interested in playing it, rather than sticking it on a shelf.
I get this strange screen melt intermittently in lots of games. Now I've tried different TVs and they all do it.
Also, the controller's D-pad sensing unintended diagonals all the time is a HUGE annoyance. Can't walk past stairs in Castlevania because your character always walks up/down when you don't want him to. Can't push a block in Zelda because Link keeps stepping around it. Can't crouch in Super Mario Bros. 3 because Mario will start walking forward.
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Even just holding up while punching repeatedly in Punch Out, Little Mac starts dodging repeatedly instead of punching -- while the opponent is still stunned, waiting for me to hit him.
Also, the controller's D-pad sensing unintended diagonals all the time is a HUGE annoyance. Can't walk past stairs in Castlevania because your character always walks up/down when you don't want him to. Can't push a block in Zelda because Link keeps stepping around it. Can't crouch in Super Mario Bros. 3 because Mario will start walking forward.
So even if these controllers were plentiful and cheap, so much for people trying to use the controllers as upgrades by simply dropping in old PCBs. Even the silicone pads in these thingies look clonish. I imagine the issue could be the dome at the base of the Dpad simply not being tall enough.
Best stick to the aftermarket replacement pads. I just bought a pack of ten on eBay and installed them into two slightly questionable controlers, and they seem to work great. Feels slightly firmer than stock, but that's probably more likely due to years of membrane wear on used controllers than anything.