Dood! If USPS are using tanks now I'm getting a jerb there, maybe I can deliver letters and packages via surface to air missiles. I'd really quieten down my neighborhood then. *dreams*
That is a box, but its very thin, not much different from a bubble mailer. I personally wouldn't feel comfortable shipping cardboard in that kind of box. At least you'll get the item back and still have a CIB to sell. I'd assume the cart works. It won't command the same price, given the damage, but its not a complete loss.
I've had some CIBs come shipped in bubble mailers and they didn't have a ding on them. If it was crushed to the extent of cracking the shit out of an NES cart, even if he double, heck, even triple boxed that Zelda, it'd still be destroyed. So quit ya complainin' about the packing
A $50 game or $1,000 game should get the same treatment if you are selling it on the condition of the box. Charge an extra few dollars on the shipping cost to prevent this from happening. If it can't or won't be properly packed, don't sell it. The amount of money is a shitty excuse. To some people, $50 is a lot of money and they want their big investment to be treated well.
I believe in treating others the way I would want to be treated. I take pride in what I sell and trade. If you pack it in a skimpy box to save money and only get burned a few times a year good on you. It just makes you look like bad seller that doesn't give a shit about the guy buying it. I am sure some will apologize and make it right and others tell the buyer to piss off and fight the insurance group.
I am not trying to start a fight. I just don't care enough about it. I do think with a post like this there should be more than just apologies given and look at what other steps could have been implemented to prevent this situation from happening.
From the severity of the damage to that game cart I'd wager even if he packed it into a sturdier box it still would have been crushed.
Its just the law of averages. Ship enough stuff and eventually you're going to get a horror story or two. Personally though for pricey ($40 and up) CIB games I like to go with Priorty Mail small flat rate boxes. Perfect size and the automatic $50 insurance is nice. Sure its a little more expensive but you can always make the buyer pay the shipping.
This thread makes me want to cry. If there is a bright side to this, it's that it wasn't something more elusive. Imagine if it were a Little Samson or Action 52.
Me neither. Even though its not insured I am going to go talk to the postmaster because cmon...
Wow, this is really terrible as they literally had to jump on it to crush the cart like that. Hopefully they do a refund, but in my expereince, even when they have lost my packages they won't reimburse them.
I don't know if you are aware but if you go priority it's about $6 for a Regional Box and they cover up to $50 insurance for free, so that might be an option on the lower value games. The Regional Box A fits my giant books, so I assume a smaller one that fits a NES box would be cheaper. The only thing is doing free shipping you are basically out that shipping cost, so I'm not sure if the shipping was much less than that, but at least it is an option to make sure the USPS can be held accountable. Handling packages like this is ridiculous!
Me neither. Even though its not insured I am going to go talk to the postmaster because cmon...
Wow, this is really terrible as they literally had to jump on it to crush the cart like that. Hopefully they do a refund, but in my expereince, even when they have lost my packages they won't reimburse them.
I don't know if you are aware but if you go priority it's about $6 for a Regional Box and they cover up to $50 insurance for free, so that might be an option on the lower value games. The Regional Box A fits my giant books, so I assume a smaller one that fits a NES box would be cheaper. The only thing is doing free shipping you are basically out that shipping cost, so I'm not sure if the shipping was much less than that, but at least it is an option to make sure the USPS can be held accountable. Handling packages like this is ridiculous!
Only issue with doing that is see Jone's post on the math. You're better off doing it this way and then taking the random $50 beating for a package that either doesn't show up or got buttfucked by a robot like this one than to cough up an extra $2-3 x hundreds of packages.
Me neither. Even though its not insured I am going to go talk to the postmaster because cmon...
Wow, this is really terrible as they literally had to jump on it to crush the cart like that. Hopefully they do a refund, but in my expereince, even when they have lost my packages they won't reimburse them.
I don't know if you are aware but if you go priority it's about $6 for a Regional Box and they cover up to $50 insurance for free, so that might be an option on the lower value games. The Regional Box A fits my giant books, so I assume a smaller one that fits a NES box would be cheaper. The only thing is doing free shipping you are basically out that shipping cost, so I'm not sure if the shipping was much less than that, but at least it is an option to make sure the USPS can be held accountable. Handling packages like this is ridiculous!
Only issue with doing that is see Jone's post on the math. You're better off doing it this way and then taking the random $50 beating for a package that either doesn't show up or got buttfucked by a robot like this one than to cough up an extra $2-3 x hundreds of packages.
So you guys always offer free shipping then? Why not make the buyer pay shipping? I'm sure most wouldn't mind paying the extra for Priority when its a more than common game.
Me neither. Even though its not insured I am going to go talk to the postmaster because cmon...
Wow, this is really terrible as they literally had to jump on it to crush the cart like that. Hopefully they do a refund, but in my expereince, even when they have lost my packages they won't reimburse them.
I don't know if you are aware but if you go priority it's about $6 for a Regional Box and they cover up to $50 insurance for free, so that might be an option on the lower value games. The Regional Box A fits my giant books, so I assume a smaller one that fits a NES box would be cheaper. The only thing is doing free shipping you are basically out that shipping cost, so I'm not sure if the shipping was much less than that, but at least it is an option to make sure the USPS can be held accountable. Handling packages like this is ridiculous!
Only issue with doing that is see Jone's post on the math. You're better off doing it this way and then taking the random $50 beating for a package that either doesn't show up or got buttfucked by a robot like this one than to cough up an extra $2-3 x hundreds of packages.
So you guys always offer free shipping then? Why not make the buyer pay shipping? I'm sure most wouldn't mind paying the extra for Priority when its a more than common game.
That's not how buying works. A buyer wants to pay a set rate to get the item shipped to them as described, in a reasonable time frame.
If they want to pay $50 shipped on an item, they don't care whether it is $50 with free shipping, $47 + $3 shipping or $44 + $6 shipping. As a seller, it is my job to get that $50 shipped from you, then be as efficient as possible in packaging the item safely and getting it to you. $2.60-$3.30 shipped in a box via first class does that 99.9% of the time. I ship next day too so that is still faster than someone who takes 2 or 3 days of processing and then sends it $6 Priority.
Sending small dollar stuff via Priority is silly if you are moving volume. You'll easily make hundreds (thousands more) a year in net profit if you ship more efficiently.
Me neither. Even though its not insured I am going to go talk to the postmaster because cmon...
Wow, this is really terrible as they literally had to jump on it to crush the cart like that. Hopefully they do a refund, but in my expereince, even when they have lost my packages they won't reimburse them.
I don't know if you are aware but if you go priority it's about $6 for a Regional Box and they cover up to $50 insurance for free, so that might be an option on the lower value games. The Regional Box A fits my giant books, so I assume a smaller one that fits a NES box would be cheaper. The only thing is doing free shipping you are basically out that shipping cost, so I'm not sure if the shipping was much less than that, but at least it is an option to make sure the USPS can be held accountable. Handling packages like this is ridiculous!
Only issue with doing that is see Jone's post on the math. You're better off doing it this way and then taking the random $50 beating for a package that either doesn't show up or got buttfucked by a robot like this one than to cough up an extra $2-3 x hundreds of packages.
So you guys always offer free shipping then? Why not make the buyer pay shipping? I'm sure most wouldn't mind paying the extra for Priority when its a more than common game.
On eBay, there really isn't a point not to offer free shipping. When you're a top rated seller / store, you get a discount for meeting certain qualifications. One of these qualifications has to do with the #/5 ratings that you get when a buyer leaves feedback. If you offer free shipping, there is an automatic 5 put in. When you ship the package out within a day and upload tracking, you get another automatic 5. If you make the buyer pay for shipping instead of working it into the price w/ free shipping option (which if you can do the math, will end up the same in the end), you are then at the whim of the buyer when they leave feedback. And when sales go south, which they do sometimes, people are more likely to leave all 1/5 in the ratings, even if you shipped quickly and had a fair shipping quote. The discount can come out to be quite a bit when you're selling a lot or pricier items (I think I get like 20% off fees, it's probably more for people with a higher level than me).
Me neither. Even though its not insured I am going to go talk to the postmaster because cmon...
Wow, this is really terrible as they literally had to jump on it to crush the cart like that. Hopefully they do a refund, but in my expereince, even when they have lost my packages they won't reimburse them.
I don't know if you are aware but if you go priority it's about $6 for a Regional Box and they cover up to $50 insurance for free, so that might be an option on the lower value games. The Regional Box A fits my giant books, so I assume a smaller one that fits a NES box would be cheaper. The only thing is doing free shipping you are basically out that shipping cost, so I'm not sure if the shipping was much less than that, but at least it is an option to make sure the USPS can be held accountable. Handling packages like this is ridiculous!
Only issue with doing that is see Jone's post on the math. You're better off doing it this way and then taking the random $50 beating for a package that either doesn't show up or got buttfucked by a robot like this one than to cough up an extra $2-3 x hundreds of packages.
So you guys always offer free shipping then? Why not make the buyer pay shipping? I'm sure most wouldn't mind paying the extra for Priority when its a more than common game.
That's not how buying works. A buyer wants to pay a set rate to get the item shipped to them as described, in a reasonable time frame.
If they want to pay $50 shipped on an item, they don't care whether it is $50 with free shipping, $47 + $3 shipping or $44 + $6 shipping. As a seller, it is my job to get that $50 shipped from you, then be as efficient as possible in packaging the item safely and getting it to you. $2.60-$3.30 shipped in a box via first class does that 99.9% of the time. I ship next day too so that is still faster than someone who takes 2 or 3 days of processing and then sends it $6 Priority.
Sending small dollar stuff via Priority is silly if you are moving volume. You'll easily make hundreds (thousands more) a year in net profit if you ship more efficiently.
So build the cost of Priority into the cost of the item. Sell for $56.80 "free shipping." Are you afraid you'd lose sales? Personally I am more inclined to buy from a seller who will ship my valuable item Priority mail.
Although its pretty obvious you are looking at from the perspective of the seller, while I'm looking at it as a buyer.
Me neither. Even though its not insured I am going to go talk to the postmaster because cmon...
Wow, this is really terrible as they literally had to jump on it to crush the cart like that. Hopefully they do a refund, but in my expereince, even when they have lost my packages they won't reimburse them.
I don't know if you are aware but if you go priority it's about $6 for a Regional Box and they cover up to $50 insurance for free, so that might be an option on the lower value games. The Regional Box A fits my giant books, so I assume a smaller one that fits a NES box would be cheaper. The only thing is doing free shipping you are basically out that shipping cost, so I'm not sure if the shipping was much less than that, but at least it is an option to make sure the USPS can be held accountable. Handling packages like this is ridiculous!
Only issue with doing that is see Jone's post on the math. You're better off doing it this way and then taking the random $50 beating for a package that either doesn't show up or got buttfucked by a robot like this one than to cough up an extra $2-3 x hundreds of packages.
So you guys always offer free shipping then? Why not make the buyer pay shipping? I'm sure most wouldn't mind paying the extra for Priority when its a more than common game.
That's not how buying works. A buyer wants to pay a set rate to get the item shipped to them as described, in a reasonable time frame.
If they want to pay $50 shipped on an item, they don't care whether it is $50 with free shipping, $47 + $3 shipping or $44 + $6 shipping. As a seller, it is my job to get that $50 shipped from you, then be as efficient as possible in packaging the item safely and getting it to you. $2.60-$3.30 shipped in a box via first class does that 99.9% of the time. I ship next day too so that is still faster than someone who takes 2 or 3 days of processing and then sends it $6 Priority.
Sending small dollar stuff via Priority is silly if you are moving volume. You'll easily make hundreds (thousands more) a year in net profit if you ship more efficiently.
So build the cost of Priority into the cost of the item. Sell for $56.80 "free shipping." Are you afraid you'd lose sales? Personally I am more inclined to buy from a seller who will ship my valuable item Priority mail.
Although its pretty obvious you are looking at from the perspective of the seller, while I'm looking at it as a buyer.
Shipping in volume, that way makes sense to me, especially if the damage is few and far between. For me with my books, it's about $1 more due to the weight to ship priority, plus free boxes/no tape, so in the end it comes out to about $6.50 either way stateside, so the extra insurance on a lost item for free is great (international is $50ish regardless, which is ridiculous BTW). eBay with their ratings is such a different beast though, so I 100% understand as you can't just add $6 to an eBay item because things won't sell.
So build the cost of Priority into the cost of the item. Sell for $56.80 "free shipping." Are you afraid you'd lose sales? Personally I am more inclined to buy from a seller who will ship my valuable item Priority mail.
I think most buyers will go for the game that's a few bucks cheaper overall.
Ha Ha this topic has been all over the place but its been an interesting conversation with some serious lack of reading comprehension thrown in on the side.
So build the cost of Priority into the cost of the item. Sell for $56.80 "free shipping." Are you afraid you'd lose sales? Personally I am more inclined to buy from a seller who will ship my valuable item Priority mail.
I think most buyers will go for the game that's a few bucks cheaper overall.
yeah, as a buyer if I pay 5 bucks less that's all I care about. Package got destroyed in the mail? Cool, I'll just send it back and get a refund.
Ha Ha this topic has been all over the place but its been an interesting conversation with some serious lack of reading comprehension thrown in on the side.
I think the moral is to ship all of you your<$50 games in fireproof steel lockboxes couriered by armed military squads and the Avengers. It's only smart shipping.
So build the cost of Priority into the cost of the item. Sell for $56.80 "free shipping." Are you afraid you'd lose sales? Personally I am more inclined to buy from a seller who will ship my valuable item Priority mail.
I think most buyers will go for the game that's a few bucks cheaper overall.
I guess I might be in the minority on this. I have more often than not passed up a cheaper options for a slightly more expensive options that shipped priority. Plus it wouldn't even be the full extra $6.80 for the priority box, but just the different compared to first class minus the fact the boxes are free. So we're only talking an extra $3 or so.
But yeah I always felt piece of mind is a nice thing to have as a buyer. Also I wouldn't consider myself a volume seller so my thoughts might change if I were. But to say things like "that's not how buying works?" Eh, I think there are different ways of going about it.
So build the cost of Priority into the cost of the item. Sell for $56.80 "free shipping." Are you afraid you'd lose sales? Personally I am more inclined to buy from a seller who will ship my valuable item Priority mail.
I think most buyers will go for the game that's a few bucks cheaper overall.
yeah, as a buyer if I pay 5 bucks less that's all I care about. Package got destroyed in the mail? Cool, I'll just send it back and get a refund.
In a hobby with a finite supply of items that's a pretty odd way of looking at it.
So build the cost of Priority into the cost of the item. Sell for $56.80 "free shipping." Are you afraid you'd lose sales? Personally I am more inclined to buy from a seller who will ship my valuable item Priority mail.
I think most buyers will go for the game that's a few bucks cheaper overall.
I guess I might be in the minority on this. I have more often than not passed up a cheaper options for a slightly more expensive options that shipped priority. Plus it wouldn't even be the full extra $6.80 for the priority box, but just the different compared to first class minus the fact the boxes are free. So we're only talking an extra $3 or so.
But yeah I always felt piece of mind is a nice thing to have as a buyer. Also I wouldn't consider myself a volume seller so my thoughts might change if I were. But to say things like "that's not how buying works?" Eh, I think there are different ways of going about it.
If it were an item that I couldn't get for a long time, like a Little Samson or Aero Fighters, absolutely. Ship it priority in a sturdy box. I'll pay extra.
A game under $100? I can find them all day long. As Bert says, it shows up damaged? Submit a claim and buy the next one. They're not all going to come in crushed.
Originally posted by: Meteor_of_War
In a hobby with a finite supply of items that's a pretty odd way of looking at it.
I don't think we're going to run out of games like the gray Zeldas anytime soon.
So build the cost of Priority into the cost of the item. Sell for $56.80 "free shipping." Are you afraid you'd lose sales? Personally I am more inclined to buy from a seller who will ship my valuable item Priority mail.
I think most buyers will go for the game that's a few bucks cheaper overall.
I guess I might be in the minority on this. I have more often than not passed up a cheaper options for a slightly more expensive options that shipped priority. Plus it wouldn't even be the full extra $6.80 for the priority box, but just the different compared to first class minus the fact the boxes are free. So we're only talking an extra $3 or so.
But yeah I always felt piece of mind is a nice thing to have as a buyer. Also I wouldn't consider myself a volume seller so my thoughts might change if I were. But to say things like "that's not how buying works?" Eh, I think there are different ways of going about it.
There's more to shipping than just Priority or First Class. For example, First Class shipped next day in a box is going to be safer, cheaper and faster than Priority shipped 2 days later in an envelope. Just buying something because it says Priority is incredibly short-sighted.
If I can price my item $3 cheaper and deliver it safely in roughly the same timeframe, it will almost always sell before the more expensive option.
So build the cost of Priority into the cost of the item. Sell for $56.80 "free shipping." Are you afraid you'd lose sales? Personally I am more inclined to buy from a seller who will ship my valuable item Priority mail.
I think most buyers will go for the game that's a few bucks cheaper overall.
I guess I might be in the minority on this. I have more often than not passed up a cheaper options for a slightly more expensive options that shipped priority. Plus it wouldn't even be the full extra $6.80 for the priority box, but just the different compared to first class minus the fact the boxes are free. So we're only talking an extra $3 or so.
But yeah I always felt piece of mind is a nice thing to have as a buyer. Also I wouldn't consider myself a volume seller so my thoughts might change if I were. But to say things like "that's not how buying works?" Eh, I think there are different ways of going about it.
There's more to shipping than just Priority or First Class. For example, First Class shipped next day in a box is going to be safer, cheaper and faster than Priority shipped 2 days later in an envelope. Just buying something because it says Priority is incredibly short-sighted.
If I can price my item $3 cheaper and deliver it safely in roughly the same timeframe, it will almost always sell before the more expensive option.
I'm talking about the flat rate boxes, not envelopes.
Its simply a better way to ship things overall for several reasons, which is why there's a slight premium on the cost. Smart buyers understand this.
1 I really would like to see what this would sell for in NA auctions.
2 Why hasnt anyone started making a game of this situation already. We can call it Postal Rampage
The story your a postal worker in a factory and you have to keep a certain package rate or the packages start getting stuck in the conveyor belt and if you mega slow it starts eating all the packages and spitting them out at the player. And if the player gets hit to many times he goes postal destoying everything. Just my thoughts
So build the cost of Priority into the cost of the item. Sell for $56.80 "free shipping." Are you afraid you'd lose sales? Personally I am more inclined to buy from a seller who will ship my valuable item Priority mail.
I think most buyers will go for the game that's a few bucks cheaper overall.
I guess I might be in the minority on this. I have more often than not passed up a cheaper options for a slightly more expensive options that shipped priority. Plus it wouldn't even be the full extra $6.80 for the priority box, but just the different compared to first class minus the fact the boxes are free. So we're only talking an extra $3 or so.
But yeah I always felt piece of mind is a nice thing to have as a buyer. Also I wouldn't consider myself a volume seller so my thoughts might change if I were. But to say things like "that's not how buying works?" Eh, I think there are different ways of going about it.
If it were an item that I couldn't get for a long time, like a Little Samson or Aero Fighters, absolutely. Ship it priority in a sturdy box. I'll pay extra.
A game under $100? I can find them all day long. As Bert says, it shows up damaged? Submit a claim and buy the next one. They're not all going to come in crushed.
Originally posted by: Meteor_of_War
In a hobby with a finite supply of items that's a pretty odd way of looking at it.
I don't think we're going to run out of games like the gray Zeldas anytime soon.
Tulpa pretty much said what I was going to say. It all depends on the item in question. Most of the time it's going to be fine. I guess everyone has a different idea of what value is negligible.
1 I really would like to see what this would sell for in NA auctions.
2 Why hasnt anyone started making a game of this situation already. We can call it Postal Rampage
The story your a postal worker in a factory and you have to keep a certain package rate or the packages start getting stuck in the conveyor belt and if you mega slow it starts eating all the packages and spitting them out at the player. And if the player gets hit to many times he goes postal destoying everything. Just my thoughts
So build the cost of Priority into the cost of the item. Sell for $56.80 "free shipping." Are you afraid you'd lose sales? Personally I am more inclined to buy from a seller who will ship my valuable item Priority mail.
I think most buyers will go for the game that's a few bucks cheaper overall.
I guess I might be in the minority on this. I have more often than not passed up a cheaper options for a slightly more expensive options that shipped priority. Plus it wouldn't even be the full extra $6.80 for the priority box, but just the different compared to first class minus the fact the boxes are free. So we're only talking an extra $3 or so.
But yeah I always felt piece of mind is a nice thing to have as a buyer. Also I wouldn't consider myself a volume seller so my thoughts might change if I were. But to say things like "that's not how buying works?" Eh, I think there are different ways of going about it.
If it were an item that I couldn't get for a long time, like a Little Samson or Aero Fighters, absolutely. Ship it priority in a sturdy box. I'll pay extra.
A game under $100? I can find them all day long. As Bert says, it shows up damaged? Submit a claim and buy the next one. They're not all going to come in crushed.
Originally posted by: Meteor_of_War
In a hobby with a finite supply of items that's a pretty odd way of looking at it.
I don't think we're going to run out of games like the gray Zeldas anytime soon.
Tulpa pretty much said what I was going to say. It all depends on the item in question. Most of the time it's going to be fine. I guess everyone has a different idea of what value is negligible.
I can agree that different people have different ideas of what value is negligible. For me, like I said earlier in the thread I'd say about $40+ value on a game is where I start worrying about how its being shipped.
1 I really would like to see what this would sell for in NA auctions.
2 Why hasnt anyone started making a game of this situation already. We can call it Postal Rampage
The story your a postal worker in a factory and you have to keep a certain package rate or the packages start getting stuck in the conveyor belt and if you mega slow it starts eating all the packages and spitting them out at the player. And if the player gets hit to many times he goes postal destoying everything. Just my thoughts
Id throw a bid in
hmm, maybe I will auction it off. Anyone wanna make a custom bomb proof steel box for me to ship it in?
I can agree that different people have different ideas of what value is negligible. For me, like I said earlier in the thread I'd say about $40+ value on a game is where I start worrying about how its being shipped.
I'm having a hard time thinking of a $40 or so game that doesn't have significant quantities out there. Above $100 is when I start to look at how it's shipped.
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A $50 game or $1,000 game should get the same treatment if you are selling it on the condition of the box. Charge an extra few dollars on the shipping cost to prevent this from happening. If it can't or won't be properly packed, don't sell it. The amount of money is a shitty excuse. To some people, $50 is a lot of money and they want their big investment to be treated well.
I believe in treating others the way I would want to be treated. I take pride in what I sell and trade. If you pack it in a skimpy box to save money and only get burned a few times a year good on you. It just makes you look like bad seller that doesn't give a shit about the guy buying it. I am sure some will apologize and make it right and others tell the buyer to piss off and fight the insurance group.
I am not trying to start a fight. I just don't care enough about it. I do think with a post like this there should be more than just apologies given and look at what other steps could have been implemented to prevent this situation from happening.
From the severity of the damage to that game cart I'd wager even if he packed it into a sturdier box it still would have been crushed.
Its just the law of averages. Ship enough stuff and eventually you're going to get a horror story or two. Personally though for pricey ($40 and up) CIB games I like to go with Priorty Mail small flat rate boxes. Perfect size and the automatic $50 insurance is nice. Sure its a little more expensive but you can always make the buyer pay the shipping.
Me neither. Even though its not insured I am going to go talk to the postmaster because cmon...
Wow, this is really terrible as they literally had to jump on it to crush the cart like that. Hopefully they do a refund, but in my expereince, even when they have lost my packages they won't reimburse them.
I don't know if you are aware but if you go priority it's about $6 for a Regional Box and they cover up to $50 insurance for free, so that might be an option on the lower value games. The Regional Box A fits my giant books, so I assume a smaller one that fits a NES box would be cheaper. The only thing is doing free shipping you are basically out that shipping cost, so I'm not sure if the shipping was much less than that, but at least it is an option to make sure the USPS can be held accountable. Handling packages like this is ridiculous!
Me neither. Even though its not insured I am going to go talk to the postmaster because cmon...
Wow, this is really terrible as they literally had to jump on it to crush the cart like that. Hopefully they do a refund, but in my expereince, even when they have lost my packages they won't reimburse them.
I don't know if you are aware but if you go priority it's about $6 for a Regional Box and they cover up to $50 insurance for free, so that might be an option on the lower value games. The Regional Box A fits my giant books, so I assume a smaller one that fits a NES box would be cheaper. The only thing is doing free shipping you are basically out that shipping cost, so I'm not sure if the shipping was much less than that, but at least it is an option to make sure the USPS can be held accountable. Handling packages like this is ridiculous!
Only issue with doing that is see Jone's post on the math. You're better off doing it this way and then taking the random $50 beating for a package that either doesn't show up or got buttfucked by a robot like this one than to cough up an extra $2-3 x hundreds of packages.
Me neither. Even though its not insured I am going to go talk to the postmaster because cmon...
Wow, this is really terrible as they literally had to jump on it to crush the cart like that. Hopefully they do a refund, but in my expereince, even when they have lost my packages they won't reimburse them.
I don't know if you are aware but if you go priority it's about $6 for a Regional Box and they cover up to $50 insurance for free, so that might be an option on the lower value games. The Regional Box A fits my giant books, so I assume a smaller one that fits a NES box would be cheaper. The only thing is doing free shipping you are basically out that shipping cost, so I'm not sure if the shipping was much less than that, but at least it is an option to make sure the USPS can be held accountable. Handling packages like this is ridiculous!
Only issue with doing that is see Jone's post on the math. You're better off doing it this way and then taking the random $50 beating for a package that either doesn't show up or got buttfucked by a robot like this one than to cough up an extra $2-3 x hundreds of packages.
So you guys always offer free shipping then? Why not make the buyer pay shipping? I'm sure most wouldn't mind paying the extra for Priority when its a more than common game.
Me neither. Even though its not insured I am going to go talk to the postmaster because cmon...
Wow, this is really terrible as they literally had to jump on it to crush the cart like that. Hopefully they do a refund, but in my expereince, even when they have lost my packages they won't reimburse them.
I don't know if you are aware but if you go priority it's about $6 for a Regional Box and they cover up to $50 insurance for free, so that might be an option on the lower value games. The Regional Box A fits my giant books, so I assume a smaller one that fits a NES box would be cheaper. The only thing is doing free shipping you are basically out that shipping cost, so I'm not sure if the shipping was much less than that, but at least it is an option to make sure the USPS can be held accountable. Handling packages like this is ridiculous!
Only issue with doing that is see Jone's post on the math. You're better off doing it this way and then taking the random $50 beating for a package that either doesn't show up or got buttfucked by a robot like this one than to cough up an extra $2-3 x hundreds of packages.
So you guys always offer free shipping then? Why not make the buyer pay shipping? I'm sure most wouldn't mind paying the extra for Priority when its a more than common game.
That's not how buying works. A buyer wants to pay a set rate to get the item shipped to them as described, in a reasonable time frame.
If they want to pay $50 shipped on an item, they don't care whether it is $50 with free shipping, $47 + $3 shipping or $44 + $6 shipping. As a seller, it is my job to get that $50 shipped from you, then be as efficient as possible in packaging the item safely and getting it to you. $2.60-$3.30 shipped in a box via first class does that 99.9% of the time. I ship next day too so that is still faster than someone who takes 2 or 3 days of processing and then sends it $6 Priority.
Sending small dollar stuff via Priority is silly if you are moving volume. You'll easily make hundreds (thousands more) a year in net profit if you ship more efficiently.
Me neither. Even though its not insured I am going to go talk to the postmaster because cmon...
Wow, this is really terrible as they literally had to jump on it to crush the cart like that. Hopefully they do a refund, but in my expereince, even when they have lost my packages they won't reimburse them.
I don't know if you are aware but if you go priority it's about $6 for a Regional Box and they cover up to $50 insurance for free, so that might be an option on the lower value games. The Regional Box A fits my giant books, so I assume a smaller one that fits a NES box would be cheaper. The only thing is doing free shipping you are basically out that shipping cost, so I'm not sure if the shipping was much less than that, but at least it is an option to make sure the USPS can be held accountable. Handling packages like this is ridiculous!
Only issue with doing that is see Jone's post on the math. You're better off doing it this way and then taking the random $50 beating for a package that either doesn't show up or got buttfucked by a robot like this one than to cough up an extra $2-3 x hundreds of packages.
So you guys always offer free shipping then? Why not make the buyer pay shipping? I'm sure most wouldn't mind paying the extra for Priority when its a more than common game.
On eBay, there really isn't a point not to offer free shipping. When you're a top rated seller / store, you get a discount for meeting certain qualifications. One of these qualifications has to do with the #/5 ratings that you get when a buyer leaves feedback. If you offer free shipping, there is an automatic 5 put in. When you ship the package out within a day and upload tracking, you get another automatic 5. If you make the buyer pay for shipping instead of working it into the price w/ free shipping option (which if you can do the math, will end up the same in the end), you are then at the whim of the buyer when they leave feedback. And when sales go south, which they do sometimes, people are more likely to leave all 1/5 in the ratings, even if you shipped quickly and had a fair shipping quote. The discount can come out to be quite a bit when you're selling a lot or pricier items (I think I get like 20% off fees, it's probably more for people with a higher level than me).
Me neither. Even though its not insured I am going to go talk to the postmaster because cmon...
Wow, this is really terrible as they literally had to jump on it to crush the cart like that. Hopefully they do a refund, but in my expereince, even when they have lost my packages they won't reimburse them.
I don't know if you are aware but if you go priority it's about $6 for a Regional Box and they cover up to $50 insurance for free, so that might be an option on the lower value games. The Regional Box A fits my giant books, so I assume a smaller one that fits a NES box would be cheaper. The only thing is doing free shipping you are basically out that shipping cost, so I'm not sure if the shipping was much less than that, but at least it is an option to make sure the USPS can be held accountable. Handling packages like this is ridiculous!
Only issue with doing that is see Jone's post on the math. You're better off doing it this way and then taking the random $50 beating for a package that either doesn't show up or got buttfucked by a robot like this one than to cough up an extra $2-3 x hundreds of packages.
So you guys always offer free shipping then? Why not make the buyer pay shipping? I'm sure most wouldn't mind paying the extra for Priority when its a more than common game.
That's not how buying works. A buyer wants to pay a set rate to get the item shipped to them as described, in a reasonable time frame.
If they want to pay $50 shipped on an item, they don't care whether it is $50 with free shipping, $47 + $3 shipping or $44 + $6 shipping. As a seller, it is my job to get that $50 shipped from you, then be as efficient as possible in packaging the item safely and getting it to you. $2.60-$3.30 shipped in a box via first class does that 99.9% of the time. I ship next day too so that is still faster than someone who takes 2 or 3 days of processing and then sends it $6 Priority.
Sending small dollar stuff via Priority is silly if you are moving volume. You'll easily make hundreds (thousands more) a year in net profit if you ship more efficiently.
So build the cost of Priority into the cost of the item. Sell for $56.80 "free shipping." Are you afraid you'd lose sales? Personally I am more inclined to buy from a seller who will ship my valuable item Priority mail.
Although its pretty obvious you are looking at from the perspective of the seller, while I'm looking at it as a buyer.
Me neither. Even though its not insured I am going to go talk to the postmaster because cmon...
Wow, this is really terrible as they literally had to jump on it to crush the cart like that. Hopefully they do a refund, but in my expereince, even when they have lost my packages they won't reimburse them.
I don't know if you are aware but if you go priority it's about $6 for a Regional Box and they cover up to $50 insurance for free, so that might be an option on the lower value games. The Regional Box A fits my giant books, so I assume a smaller one that fits a NES box would be cheaper. The only thing is doing free shipping you are basically out that shipping cost, so I'm not sure if the shipping was much less than that, but at least it is an option to make sure the USPS can be held accountable. Handling packages like this is ridiculous!
Only issue with doing that is see Jone's post on the math. You're better off doing it this way and then taking the random $50 beating for a package that either doesn't show up or got buttfucked by a robot like this one than to cough up an extra $2-3 x hundreds of packages.
So you guys always offer free shipping then? Why not make the buyer pay shipping? I'm sure most wouldn't mind paying the extra for Priority when its a more than common game.
That's not how buying works. A buyer wants to pay a set rate to get the item shipped to them as described, in a reasonable time frame.
If they want to pay $50 shipped on an item, they don't care whether it is $50 with free shipping, $47 + $3 shipping or $44 + $6 shipping. As a seller, it is my job to get that $50 shipped from you, then be as efficient as possible in packaging the item safely and getting it to you. $2.60-$3.30 shipped in a box via first class does that 99.9% of the time. I ship next day too so that is still faster than someone who takes 2 or 3 days of processing and then sends it $6 Priority.
Sending small dollar stuff via Priority is silly if you are moving volume. You'll easily make hundreds (thousands more) a year in net profit if you ship more efficiently.
So build the cost of Priority into the cost of the item. Sell for $56.80 "free shipping." Are you afraid you'd lose sales? Personally I am more inclined to buy from a seller who will ship my valuable item Priority mail.
Although its pretty obvious you are looking at from the perspective of the seller, while I'm looking at it as a buyer.
Shipping in volume, that way makes sense to me, especially if the damage is few and far between. For me with my books, it's about $1 more due to the weight to ship priority, plus free boxes/no tape, so in the end it comes out to about $6.50 either way stateside, so the extra insurance on a lost item for free is great (international is $50ish regardless, which is ridiculous BTW). eBay with their ratings is such a different beast though, so I 100% understand as you can't just add $6 to an eBay item because things won't sell.
So build the cost of Priority into the cost of the item. Sell for $56.80 "free shipping." Are you afraid you'd lose sales? Personally I am more inclined to buy from a seller who will ship my valuable item Priority mail.
I think most buyers will go for the game that's a few bucks cheaper overall.
So build the cost of Priority into the cost of the item. Sell for $56.80 "free shipping." Are you afraid you'd lose sales? Personally I am more inclined to buy from a seller who will ship my valuable item Priority mail.
I think most buyers will go for the game that's a few bucks cheaper overall.
yeah, as a buyer if I pay 5 bucks less that's all I care about. Package got destroyed in the mail? Cool, I'll just send it back and get a refund.
Ha Ha this topic has been all over the place but its been an interesting conversation with some serious lack of reading comprehension thrown in on the side.
I think the moral is to ship all of you your<$50 games in fireproof steel lockboxes couriered by armed military squads and the Avengers. It's only smart shipping.
So build the cost of Priority into the cost of the item. Sell for $56.80 "free shipping." Are you afraid you'd lose sales? Personally I am more inclined to buy from a seller who will ship my valuable item Priority mail.
I think most buyers will go for the game that's a few bucks cheaper overall.
I guess I might be in the minority on this. I have more often than not passed up a cheaper options for a slightly more expensive options that shipped priority. Plus it wouldn't even be the full extra $6.80 for the priority box, but just the different compared to first class minus the fact the boxes are free. So we're only talking an extra $3 or so.
But yeah I always felt piece of mind is a nice thing to have as a buyer. Also I wouldn't consider myself a volume seller so my thoughts might change if I were. But to say things like "that's not how buying works?" Eh, I think there are different ways of going about it.
So build the cost of Priority into the cost of the item. Sell for $56.80 "free shipping." Are you afraid you'd lose sales? Personally I am more inclined to buy from a seller who will ship my valuable item Priority mail.
I think most buyers will go for the game that's a few bucks cheaper overall.
yeah, as a buyer if I pay 5 bucks less that's all I care about. Package got destroyed in the mail? Cool, I'll just send it back and get a refund.
In a hobby with a finite supply of items that's a pretty odd way of looking at it.
So build the cost of Priority into the cost of the item. Sell for $56.80 "free shipping." Are you afraid you'd lose sales? Personally I am more inclined to buy from a seller who will ship my valuable item Priority mail.
I think most buyers will go for the game that's a few bucks cheaper overall.
I guess I might be in the minority on this. I have more often than not passed up a cheaper options for a slightly more expensive options that shipped priority. Plus it wouldn't even be the full extra $6.80 for the priority box, but just the different compared to first class minus the fact the boxes are free. So we're only talking an extra $3 or so.
But yeah I always felt piece of mind is a nice thing to have as a buyer. Also I wouldn't consider myself a volume seller so my thoughts might change if I were. But to say things like "that's not how buying works?" Eh, I think there are different ways of going about it.
If it were an item that I couldn't get for a long time, like a Little Samson or Aero Fighters, absolutely. Ship it priority in a sturdy box. I'll pay extra.
A game under $100? I can find them all day long. As Bert says, it shows up damaged? Submit a claim and buy the next one. They're not all going to come in crushed.
In a hobby with a finite supply of items that's a pretty odd way of looking at it.
I don't think we're going to run out of games like the gray Zeldas anytime soon.
So build the cost of Priority into the cost of the item. Sell for $56.80 "free shipping." Are you afraid you'd lose sales? Personally I am more inclined to buy from a seller who will ship my valuable item Priority mail.
I think most buyers will go for the game that's a few bucks cheaper overall.
I guess I might be in the minority on this. I have more often than not passed up a cheaper options for a slightly more expensive options that shipped priority. Plus it wouldn't even be the full extra $6.80 for the priority box, but just the different compared to first class minus the fact the boxes are free. So we're only talking an extra $3 or so.
But yeah I always felt piece of mind is a nice thing to have as a buyer. Also I wouldn't consider myself a volume seller so my thoughts might change if I were. But to say things like "that's not how buying works?" Eh, I think there are different ways of going about it.
There's more to shipping than just Priority or First Class. For example, First Class shipped next day in a box is going to be safer, cheaper and faster than Priority shipped 2 days later in an envelope. Just buying something because it says Priority is incredibly short-sighted.
If I can price my item $3 cheaper and deliver it safely in roughly the same timeframe, it will almost always sell before the more expensive option.
So build the cost of Priority into the cost of the item. Sell for $56.80 "free shipping." Are you afraid you'd lose sales? Personally I am more inclined to buy from a seller who will ship my valuable item Priority mail.
I think most buyers will go for the game that's a few bucks cheaper overall.
I guess I might be in the minority on this. I have more often than not passed up a cheaper options for a slightly more expensive options that shipped priority. Plus it wouldn't even be the full extra $6.80 for the priority box, but just the different compared to first class minus the fact the boxes are free. So we're only talking an extra $3 or so.
But yeah I always felt piece of mind is a nice thing to have as a buyer. Also I wouldn't consider myself a volume seller so my thoughts might change if I were. But to say things like "that's not how buying works?" Eh, I think there are different ways of going about it.
There's more to shipping than just Priority or First Class. For example, First Class shipped next day in a box is going to be safer, cheaper and faster than Priority shipped 2 days later in an envelope. Just buying something because it says Priority is incredibly short-sighted.
If I can price my item $3 cheaper and deliver it safely in roughly the same timeframe, it will almost always sell before the more expensive option.
I'm talking about the flat rate boxes, not envelopes.
Its simply a better way to ship things overall for several reasons, which is why there's a slight premium on the cost. Smart buyers understand this.
1 I really would like to see what this would sell for in NA auctions.
2 Why hasnt anyone started making a game of this situation already. We can call it Postal Rampage
The story your a postal worker in a factory and you have to keep a certain package rate or the packages start getting stuck in the conveyor belt and if you mega slow it starts eating all the packages and spitting them out at the player. And if the player gets hit to many times he goes postal destoying everything. Just my thoughts
So build the cost of Priority into the cost of the item. Sell for $56.80 "free shipping." Are you afraid you'd lose sales? Personally I am more inclined to buy from a seller who will ship my valuable item Priority mail.
I think most buyers will go for the game that's a few bucks cheaper overall.
I guess I might be in the minority on this. I have more often than not passed up a cheaper options for a slightly more expensive options that shipped priority. Plus it wouldn't even be the full extra $6.80 for the priority box, but just the different compared to first class minus the fact the boxes are free. So we're only talking an extra $3 or so.
But yeah I always felt piece of mind is a nice thing to have as a buyer. Also I wouldn't consider myself a volume seller so my thoughts might change if I were. But to say things like "that's not how buying works?" Eh, I think there are different ways of going about it.
If it were an item that I couldn't get for a long time, like a Little Samson or Aero Fighters, absolutely. Ship it priority in a sturdy box. I'll pay extra.
A game under $100? I can find them all day long. As Bert says, it shows up damaged? Submit a claim and buy the next one. They're not all going to come in crushed.
In a hobby with a finite supply of items that's a pretty odd way of looking at it.
I don't think we're going to run out of games like the gray Zeldas anytime soon.
Tulpa pretty much said what I was going to say. It all depends on the item in question. Most of the time it's going to be fine. I guess everyone has a different idea of what value is negligible.
Some quick thoughts
1 I really would like to see what this would sell for in NA auctions.
2 Why hasnt anyone started making a game of this situation already. We can call it Postal Rampage
The story your a postal worker in a factory and you have to keep a certain package rate or the packages start getting stuck in the conveyor belt and if you mega slow it starts eating all the packages and spitting them out at the player. And if the player gets hit to many times he goes postal destoying everything. Just my thoughts
Id throw a bid in
So build the cost of Priority into the cost of the item. Sell for $56.80 "free shipping." Are you afraid you'd lose sales? Personally I am more inclined to buy from a seller who will ship my valuable item Priority mail.
I think most buyers will go for the game that's a few bucks cheaper overall.
I guess I might be in the minority on this. I have more often than not passed up a cheaper options for a slightly more expensive options that shipped priority. Plus it wouldn't even be the full extra $6.80 for the priority box, but just the different compared to first class minus the fact the boxes are free. So we're only talking an extra $3 or so.
But yeah I always felt piece of mind is a nice thing to have as a buyer. Also I wouldn't consider myself a volume seller so my thoughts might change if I were. But to say things like "that's not how buying works?" Eh, I think there are different ways of going about it.
If it were an item that I couldn't get for a long time, like a Little Samson or Aero Fighters, absolutely. Ship it priority in a sturdy box. I'll pay extra.
A game under $100? I can find them all day long. As Bert says, it shows up damaged? Submit a claim and buy the next one. They're not all going to come in crushed.
In a hobby with a finite supply of items that's a pretty odd way of looking at it.
I don't think we're going to run out of games like the gray Zeldas anytime soon.
Tulpa pretty much said what I was going to say. It all depends on the item in question. Most of the time it's going to be fine. I guess everyone has a different idea of what value is negligible.
I can agree that different people have different ideas of what value is negligible. For me, like I said earlier in the thread I'd say about $40+ value on a game is where I start worrying about how its being shipped.
Some quick thoughts
1 I really would like to see what this would sell for in NA auctions.
2 Why hasnt anyone started making a game of this situation already. We can call it Postal Rampage
The story your a postal worker in a factory and you have to keep a certain package rate or the packages start getting stuck in the conveyor belt and if you mega slow it starts eating all the packages and spitting them out at the player. And if the player gets hit to many times he goes postal destoying everything. Just my thoughts
Id throw a bid in
hmm, maybe I will auction it off. Anyone wanna make a custom bomb proof steel box for me to ship it in?
I can agree that different people have different ideas of what value is negligible. For me, like I said earlier in the thread I'd say about $40+ value on a game is where I start worrying about how its being shipped.
I'm having a hard time thinking of a $40 or so game that doesn't have significant quantities out there. Above $100 is when I start to look at how it's shipped.