Is there any interest in 8-tracks for game collectors?

I've been wondering this for a while; since 8-tracks are fairly similar to game cartridges, do game collectors have more of an interest in collecting them? Me and my family had inherited 7 or 8 boxes full of them a while ago and there up there with my records, so I'm curious to see what you guys view on it is. While it's a decade or so off from most video games, with the same feel to them as cartridges I'm thinking there might be something there.

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  • I dont currently but i do really want to get one or two for my '77 trans am whenever i finish it. One of these days ill find a led zeppelin or ac/dc 8 track at a flea market i hope
  • Nope. As far as music media go, 8 tracks are pretty bad. I'm sure there are people that collect it (there are people that collect everything), but most go with the vinyl record or CD because they are better in virtually every way. Tape cassettes are making somewhat of a comeback, but I don't think the 8 track will because there isn't much about it that makes it better than its counterparts.
  • Originally posted by: ZBomber



    Nope. As far as music media go, 8 tracks are pretty bad. I'm sure there are people that collect it (there are people that collect everything), but most go with the vinyl record or CD because they are better in virtually every way. Tape cassettes are making somewhat of a comeback, but I don't think the 8 track will because there isn't much about it that makes it better than its counterparts.

    Are they more durable?  Records and cds can get scuffed and ruined over time.  I've had cassettes wear out on me and needed to be replaced.  Never actually used 8-track, though.  About the same durability as VHS?  Which seems to hold up better than some of my audio cassettes.
  • I have a couple, but I'm not really a collector.



    I found one that was used by GM dealers to showoff the 8-track player in their cars, and I have one that was signed by the artist, Kitty Wells. I'd like to sell the Wells someday.



    I think that's about it.
  • I know I hate it when I see a big box of them out of the corner of my eye, thinking its GAAAMMMEEEZZZZZ!!! Nope. 8 tracks.
  • Originally posted by: Loxx O)))

    Originally posted by: ZBomber



    Nope. As far as music media go, 8 tracks are pretty bad. I'm sure there are people that collect it (there are people that collect everything), but most go with the vinyl record or CD because they are better in virtually every way. Tape cassettes are making somewhat of a comeback, but I don't think the 8 track will because there isn't much about it that makes it better than its counterparts.

    Are they more durable?  Records and cds can get scuffed and ruined over time.  I've had cassettes wear out on me and needed to be replaced.  Never actually used 8-track, though.  About the same durability as VHS?  Which seems to hold up better than some of my audio cassettes.




    8 tracks and cassettes use the same technology, or similar enough that the degrading rate would be similar to cassettes and VHS (i.e., wearing out through play or degrading due to environmental factors).
  • Originally posted by: dra600n

     
    Originally posted by: Loxx O)))

     
    Originally posted by: ZBomber



    Nope. As far as music media go, 8 tracks are pretty bad. I'm sure there are people that collect it (there are people that collect everything), but most go with the vinyl record or CD because they are better in virtually every way. Tape cassettes are making somewhat of a comeback, but I don't think the 8 track will because there isn't much about it that makes it better than its counterparts.

    Are they more durable?  Records and cds can get scuffed and ruined over time.  I've had cassettes wear out on me and needed to be replaced.  Never actually used 8-track, though.  About the same durability as VHS?  Which seems to hold up better than some of my audio cassettes.







    8 tracks and cassettes use the same technology, or similar enough that the degrading rate would be similar to cassettes and VHS (i.e., wearing out through play or degrading due to environmental factors).

    Yeah, I get that aspect of it but I've seen wear more with audio cassettes so I was just wondering if the bigger tape itself had something to do with added durability.  Seems plausible but I don't really know.  Perhaps thickness would be a factor?  All things I don't know and I'm just throwing out there in response to whether there is a benefit to collecting a tape based product.
  • Originally posted by: Loxx O)))

     
    Originally posted by: ZBomber



    Nope. As far as music media go, 8 tracks are pretty bad. I'm sure there are people that collect it (there are people that collect everything), but most go with the vinyl record or CD because they are better in virtually every way. Tape cassettes are making somewhat of a comeback, but I don't think the 8 track will because there isn't much about it that makes it better than its counterparts.

    Are they more durable?  Records and cds can get scuffed and ruined over time.  I've had cassettes wear out on me and needed to be replaced.  Never actually used 8-track, though.  About the same durability as VHS?  Which seems to hold up better than some of my audio cassettes.

    It was a miserable format.  The only thing they really had going for them was that for automobile use they were better than the competing formats back when.   But that day is long past.



    The tapes themselves were very susceptible to jamming and breaking (they were this weird continuous loop contraption). (They usually could be repaired but it was a pain in the butt to do so - I made my beer money in college by fixing them for people).  The players had a moving head that would adjust up and down to match four pairs of stereo tracks (hence eight track) - those heads would sooner or later get out of alignment and in cars you would have to take out the unit to adjust the head (if the manufacturer bothered to make a provision to adjust the head) and put it back in.  Most people resorted to jamming matchbooks at the top or bottom of the cartridge while they were  in the machine to try  to get the tape back in alignment with the head.



    In addition the tapes wear simply due to use (it was a contact medium after all) - plus the tapes are now old enough that physical degradation of the tape itself (even if never used) is very possible  - eventually the magnetic coating starts to flake off the base.   



    To the best of my knowledge the only collector's market for 8 tracks are for the quadrasonic (an early four channel system) tapes.  
  • Originally posted by: Loxx O)))

     
    Originally posted by: ZBomber



    Nope. As far as music media go, 8 tracks are pretty bad. I'm sure there are people that collect it (there are people that collect everything), but most go with the vinyl record or CD because they are better in virtually every way. Tape cassettes are making somewhat of a comeback, but I don't think the 8 track will because there isn't much about it that makes it better than its counterparts.

    Are they more durable?  Records and cds can get scuffed and ruined over time.  I've had cassettes wear out on me and needed to be replaced.  Never actually used 8-track, though.  About the same durability as VHS?  Which seems to hold up better than some of my audio cassettes.





    I don't think so. The external case may be, but I'm pretty sure the tape itself isn't very durable or really made to last. They're notorious, even more so than VHS and tape cassettes, for being eaten. There is also bleed-through where two tracks will play at the same time.
  • You guys have given me more information than I ever needed to know about 8 track.   Thank you. It's cool learning new things.
  • There's not enough variety in the era of music for me, compared to vinyl where you can get everything up to the latest Justin Timberlake and Weird Al release. The tapes I would actually want are cheaper on vinyl, so no need to pay $30+ for an inferior format.



    But I didn't grow up with an 8-track player in my car so I have no nostalgia for the little bargain bin space takers.
  • As an odd aside I once had an 8 track copy of Tres Hombres by ZZ Tops. For some reason the song La Grange was missing the vocals. It was great goofing on my friends when I first played it for them and they would keep waiting (as I first did) for the vocals that would never appear.
  • Your going to want to replace that foam in just about every cartridge nowadays. They've all degraded by now. Also usually the labels look pretty bad on them. I just go with vinyl. Better in just about every way, except for the portability. But does anybody even listen to 8 tracks in their cars anymore? Lol
  • Originally posted by: Natty Bumppo



    As an odd aside I once had an 8 track copy of Tres Hombres by ZZ Tops. For some reason the song La Grange was missing the vocals. It was great goofing on my friends when I first played it for them and they would keep waiting (as I first did) for the vocals that would never appear.

    I often wonder how many cool things like this get lost to the vestiges of time.  I was once listening to the Greg Kihn show before it went off air, and he played an extended version of Jimmy Castor Bunch's "Troglodyte" that was only ever released on some rare LP or albumn way back when.  To this day I haven't been able to find any mention or upload of it since.



     
  • Originally posted by: CMR

     
    Originally posted by: Natty Bumppo



    As an odd aside I once had an 8 track copy of Tres Hombres by ZZ Tops. For some reason the song La Grange was missing the vocals. It was great goofing on my friends when I first played it for them and they would keep waiting (as I first did) for the vocals that would never appear.

    I often wonder how many cool things like this get lost to the vestiges of time.  I was once listening to the Greg Kihn show before it went off air, and he played an extended version of Jimmy Castor Bunch's "Troglodyte" that was only ever released on some rare LP or albumn way back when.  To this day I haven't been able to find any mention or upload of it since.



     

    Looks like it might have been a 12" single.



    https://www.discogs.com/Jimmy-Castor-Bunch-Its-Just-Begun-Troglodyte-Cave-Man/master/1071166



    There is also this with some different mixes:



    https://www.dustygroove.com/item/43765/Jimmy+Castor+Bunch:Troglodyte+(Cave+Man)+(prehistoric+rmx,+orig+mix,+intro+remix,+freestyle+rmx,+name+vac)
  • No, not even cassette tapes. I have quite a bit of vinyl though.
  • 8-tracks and cassettes are honestly the absolute "worst" way to listen to music in my opinion.



    If you are going to "collect" any music formats please use vinyl and CDs.
  • Originally posted by: ToxieRules



    8-tracks and cassettes are honestly the absolute "worst" way to listen to music in my opinion.



    If you are going to "collect" any music formats please use vinyl and CDs.

    To be fair, if you're listening to really low quality music (perhaps something like raw black metal or ambient/noise) having it crystal clear actually hurts the experience so cassettes are viable for certain genres.  A lot of stuff I listen to is released exclusively on either vinyl or cassette.  Though, this is a very niche thing.  Your average music, yes, does sound better when it's in a higher quality format.
  • Originally posted by: Loxx O)))

     
    Originally posted by: ToxieRules



    8-tracks and cassettes are honestly the absolute "worst" way to listen to music in my opinion.



    If you are going to "collect" any music formats please use vinyl and CDs.

    To be fair, if you're listening to really low quality music (perhaps something like raw black metal or ambient/noise) having it crystal clear actually hurts the experience so cassettes are viable for certain genres.  A lot of stuff I listen to is released exclusively on either vinyl or cassette.  Though, this is a very niche thing.  Your average music, yes, does sound better when it's in a higher quality format.



    I am having a very hard time understanding what you mean, in all respect of course.



    I am not into black metal or any of that super heavy stuff although I can respect some of the musicians for their technicality but that is an exception in most genres.



    I guess the only thing I can compare it to is watching horror flicks on VHS over Blu-Ray because the crisp quality of the images can sometimes take away from the practical effects and make them appear less real etc.



    You would honestly just have to send me an examples so I can compare.
  • I have a few Bad Religion cassettes and aside from the inconvenience, I prefer listening to them via cassette tape. It seems to match the grit of their sound pretty well.



    It's kind like that episode of Everybody Love's Raymond where Ray buys his dad a fancy CD player and all of his favorite records, and his dad doesn't like it because the imperfections of the vinyl were part of the experience.



    That, and cassettes are easier to find and often cheaper, and my car's cassette player works better than the CD player. Someday I'll get an after-market set that I can just connect to via bluetooth or Aux.
  • I guess what you say is comparable. I'm at work so don't really want to go searching for all that kind of stuff at the moment.   Consider that some of this stuff is recorded in a low quality fashion, for instance, Burzum recorded some of his stuff using a pair of cheap head phones as his microphone and used the worst amplifier/speaker he could find for the guitar. So there is this atmosphere and hissing and harshness to it. When you start hearing it in better quality that is amplified and you kind of lose the music. It's intentionally bad, yeah? "Jesus' Dod" is one track that was recorded this way and maybe you can get what I'm saying. Other examples I have to get my point across I have no way of doing so. There is a band called Hell that did a lot of low quality recordings, but in the last year he had his stuff remastered and put on cd... and there is one of those albums that is near unlistenable because of how much squealing and screeching and noise there was under the music that is now very prevalent. For this example, he doesn't have the remasters online anywhere.



    Edit:  ^^^ Also, what he says.
  • Vinyl is actually "much" superior sound quality to that of a CD however you "do" require some nice equipment for it to reach that level of sound quality.



    You really can't get a better sound than a vinyl that is in good condition, with a high quality turn table and proper stereo setup will always beat out CDs in terms of sound quality or any digital format for that matter.



    The hiss and pops you hear from vinyl is from dummies who didn't take care of their records, similar to that of people who leave CDs out and they skip when scratched it isn't because vinyl just makes those noises naturally.
  • Originally posted by: SnowSauce

    That, and cassettes are easier to find and often cheaper, and my car's cassette player works better than the CD player. Someday I'll get an after-market set that I can just connect to via bluetooth or Aux.

    It's funny because I have a cassette player in my car that I can hook up through AUX and I also have all my Hell cassettes in there with it.   
  • Originally posted by: ToxieRules



    Vinyl is actually "much" superior sound quality to that of a CD however you "do" require some nice equipment for it to reach that level of sound quality.



    You really can't get a better sound than a vinyl that is in good condition, with a high quality turn table and proper stereo setup will always beat out CDs in terms of sound quality or any digital format for that matter.



    The hiss and pops you hear from vinyl is from dummies who didn't take care of their records, similar to that of people who leave CDs out and they skip when scratched it isn't because vinyl just makes those noises naturally.



    I'm not much of a sound expert, I was just providing an example of how someone can enjoy imperfections in a format. Clarity doesn't nessecarily equal a better experience. It depends on who's listening to the music and what they prefer. 



    It's kinda like the modern signal conversion boxes for video games with scanline generators. It's a degraded experience, but people like it for whatever reason.



    Now, if I'm listening to Katy Perry or Kanye West, sure, I'd prefer crisp and clear audio. That experience is better the closer to perfection the format reaches.

     
  • Originally posted by: Loxx O)))

     
    Originally posted by: SnowSauce

    That, and cassettes are easier to find and often cheaper, and my car's cassette player works better than the CD player. Someday I'll get an after-market set that I can just connect to via bluetooth or Aux.

    It's funny because I have a cassette player in my car that I can hook up through AUX and I also have all my Hell cassettes in there with it.   



    I used to have one of those Cassette to AUX converters when I was in middle school, but it never really worked right. My buddy also had one of those radio transmitters that never really worked right and were faded out quite quickly.



    When I was in high school, I bought a cheap radio that had AUX and I prefered that because I could use my iPod instead of having all sorts of other media to carry around with me.



     
  • SnowSauce is probably illustrating my point better in a way. I'm coming from the stand point that some people intentionally put those imperfections there to add a certain quality to the music. When you enhance the sound to make it closer to perfect, you then get an imbalance and those imperfections start becoming detriments to the music rather than an atmospheric quality.
  • Originally posted by: SnowSauce

     
    Originally posted by: ToxieRules



    Vinyl is actually "much" superior sound quality to that of a CD however you "do" require some nice equipment for it to reach that level of sound quality.



    You really can't get a better sound than a vinyl that is in good condition, with a high quality turn table and proper stereo setup will always beat out CDs in terms of sound quality or any digital format for that matter.



    The hiss and pops you hear from vinyl is from dummies who didn't take care of their records, similar to that of people who leave CDs out and they skip when scratched it isn't because vinyl just makes those noises naturally.



    I'm not much of a sound expert, I was just providing an example of how someone can enjoy imperfections in a format. Clarity doesn't nessecarily equal a better experience. It depends on who's listening to the music and what they prefer. 



    It's kinda like the modern signal conversion boxes for video games with scanline generators. It's a degraded experience, but people like it for whatever reason.



    Now, if I'm listening to Katy Perry or Kanye West, sure, I'd prefer crisp and clear audio. That experience is better the closer to perfection the format reaches.

     



    Oh trust me I am not going to be the dude who will not buy a record or something because it has a few hiss or pops but if it is constant....No way.

     
  • Originally posted by: ToxieRules

     
    Originally posted by: SnowSauce

     
    Originally posted by: ToxieRules



    Vinyl is actually "much" superior sound quality to that of a CD however you "do" require some nice equipment for it to reach that level of sound quality.



    You really can't get a better sound than a vinyl that is in good condition, with a high quality turn table and proper stereo setup will always beat out CDs in terms of sound quality or any digital format for that matter.



    The hiss and pops you hear from vinyl is from dummies who didn't take care of their records, similar to that of people who leave CDs out and they skip when scratched it isn't because vinyl just makes those noises naturally.



    I'm not much of a sound expert, I was just providing an example of how someone can enjoy imperfections in a format. Clarity doesn't nessecarily equal a better experience. It depends on who's listening to the music and what they prefer. 



    It's kinda like the modern signal conversion boxes for video games with scanline generators. It's a degraded experience, but people like it for whatever reason.



    Now, if I'm listening to Katy Perry or Kanye West, sure, I'd prefer crisp and clear audio. That experience is better the closer to perfection the format reaches.

     



    Oh trust me I am not going to be the dude who will not buy a record or something because it has a few hiss or pops but if it is constant....No way.

     

    You really shouldn't listen to the stuff I'm into.   
  • Originally posted by: Loxx O)))

     
    Originally posted by: ToxieRules

     
    Originally posted by: SnowSauce

     
    Originally posted by: ToxieRules



    Vinyl is actually "much" superior sound quality to that of a CD however you "do" require some nice equipment for it to reach that level of sound quality.



    You really can't get a better sound than a vinyl that is in good condition, with a high quality turn table and proper stereo setup will always beat out CDs in terms of sound quality or any digital format for that matter.



    The hiss and pops you hear from vinyl is from dummies who didn't take care of their records, similar to that of people who leave CDs out and they skip when scratched it isn't because vinyl just makes those noises naturally.



    I'm not much of a sound expert, I was just providing an example of how someone can enjoy imperfections in a format. Clarity doesn't nessecarily equal a better experience. It depends on who's listening to the music and what they prefer. 



    It's kinda like the modern signal conversion boxes for video games with scanline generators. It's a degraded experience, but people like it for whatever reason.



    Now, if I'm listening to Katy Perry or Kanye West, sure, I'd prefer crisp and clear audio. That experience is better the closer to perfection the format reaches.

     



    Oh trust me I am not going to be the dude who will not buy a record or something because it has a few hiss or pops but if it is constant....No way.

     

    You really shouldn't listen to the stuff I'm into.   



    Probably not.

     
  • Originally posted by: ToxieRules

     
    Originally posted by: SnowSauce

     
    Originally posted by: ToxieRules



    Vinyl is actually "much" superior sound quality to that of a CD however you "do" require some nice equipment for it to reach that level of sound quality.



    You really can't get a better sound than a vinyl that is in good condition, with a high quality turn table and proper stereo setup will always beat out CDs in terms of sound quality or any digital format for that matter.



    The hiss and pops you hear from vinyl is from dummies who didn't take care of their records, similar to that of people who leave CDs out and they skip when scratched it isn't because vinyl just makes those noises naturally.



    I'm not much of a sound expert, I was just providing an example of how someone can enjoy imperfections in a format. Clarity doesn't nessecarily equal a better experience. It depends on who's listening to the music and what they prefer. 



    It's kinda like the modern signal conversion boxes for video games with scanline generators. It's a degraded experience, but people like it for whatever reason.



    Now, if I'm listening to Katy Perry or Kanye West, sure, I'd prefer crisp and clear audio. That experience is better the closer to perfection the format reaches.

     



    Oh trust me I am not going to be the dude who will not buy a record or something because it has a few hiss or pops but if it is constant....No way.

     



    And I certainly enjoy viynl as well, I have a few and I hope to have a nice collection someday with a nice setup like you outlined. 



    I think there is something relaxing about putting a record on that you don't get from a CD or the like.

     
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