An extremely stupid question but I have to ask...

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  • Originally posted by: rlh



    Sub question, any clue what, exactly, that lambs meat is? I know they shave the meat off of huge spits, and it's obviously minced and pressed into that form.



    I almost hate to ask, but what all is in those things?

    I suspect it's made the a similar way other deli meats.



    That is, it gets ground and homogenized, and then they wrap it in a net to cook it on a spit. (rather than bag and boil/steam it like deli meat)



     
  • Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos



    Well... can't knock it 'till I try it at least. Now, if you're serving up giraffe, I'm out.



    Honestly, I'll eat just about any animal.  It's the part I'm concerned about.
  • Originally posted by: leatherrebel5150

     
    Originally posted by: Quazonk

     
    Originally posted by: leatherrebel5150



    If i heard someone say,in person, gyro the way some of you say it i'd have to ask what the hell you were talking about. Ive only ever heard it pronounced gyro as in gyromite or gyroscope, or the gy sounds like ji. What is all this euro and yeeero nonsense?



    I'd laugh if someone called it a "gyro" as is "gyroscope". That'd be no different than pronouncing the L of "tortilla", or the J of "jalapeno", only a gyro (a rotating mechanism) is already an English word. Then again it's one of the more excusable mispronuciations; last night Daemon Hatfield from IGN was talking about a new Star Wars toy and refered to its body as a "chass-iss".



    Well thats the thing since gyro itself it a normal part of other words it makes more sense to pronounce it like gyroscope since really your just chopping off the end of the word. There is no word "tilla" or "jala" to mix up with your example words there

     

    Yeah, it's just one of those foreign words shoehorned into regular English, that nobody would say correctly the first time they ever saw it lol. I think we had Donair King commercials in Canada to subconsciously teach us at a young age  



     
  • Originally posted by: Quazonk

     
     

    No, I didn't. I'm relying on hearing the actual people say the actual words. Wikipedia typed comparisons really can't capture it quite the same, unless you could click on it and listen to a clip of a greek guy talking about gyros. But yeah, pronoucing it "hero" is about the closest thing we non-Greeks can say. By the way, was just looking for a clip on youtube hoping to find a Greek guy pronouncing the word, and came across this. Fuckin' hilarious

     

    Your post and my edit overlapped.



    I posted a more thorough response where the "correct" pronunciation, of course, has to be based on the actual Greek spelling, not the anglicized spelling.



    The anglicized spelling starts with a G, which when followed by an iota or epsilon in Greek is strictly a "Y" as in "yes".



    BUT the greek spelling for the dish ACTUALLY uses an Upsilon, which makes a sort of "hyuee" sound.



    And so using that, saying "yeero" is considerably closer than "hero" (with a hard H), though "hyueero" (or even "Euro") might be slightly closer to the genuine article.





    (and all that said... we still have to entertain the possibility that the Greek guys you know have a regional accent different from "proper" Greek   -- i.e. could be the equivalent of relying on a person from an extreme Appalachia or Boston for one's opinion of an "American English accent")



     
  • Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos

     
     

    Lamb?! That's so weird.

     

    What is weird about lamb?



    Lamb and goat are both pretty great, if they're cooked right.



    It would probably be harder to find goat, without buying a whole one, but you can leg of lamb and ground lamb at pretty much any grocery store.



     
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: Quazonk

     
     

    No, I didn't. I'm relying on hearing the actual people say the actual words. Wikipedia typed comparisons really can't capture it quite the same, unless you could click on it and listen to a clip of a greek guy talking about gyros. But yeah, pronoucing it "hero" is about the closest thing we non-Greeks can say. By the way, was just looking for a clip on youtube hoping to find a Greek guy pronouncing the word, and came across this. Fuckin' hilarious

     

    Your post and my edit overlapped.



    I posted a more thorough response where the "correct" pronunciation, of course, has to be based on the actual Greek spelling, not the anglicized spelling.



    The anglicized spelling starts with a G, which when followed by an iota or epsilon in Greek is strictly a "Y" as in "yes".



    BUT the greek spelling for the dish ACTUALLY uses an Upsilon, which makes a sort of "hyuee" sound.



    And so using that, saying "yeero" is considerably closer than "hero", though "hyueero" (or even "Euro") might be slightly closer to the genuine article.





    (and all that said... we still have to entertain the possibility that the Greek guys you know have a regional accent different from "proper" Greek   -- i.e. could be the equivalent of relying on a person from an extreme Appalachia or Boston for one's opinion of an "American English accent")



     

    Then we can agree that the Upsilon rules the day, "hyuee!". True, maybe our Greek pals Stavros and Hermes from the Greek Taverna have been away from the homeland too long, but those boys can still pronouce an Upsilon!



     
  • Originally posted by: Quazonk

     
     

    Then we can agree that the Upsilon rules the day, "hyuee!". True, maybe our Greek pals Stavros and Hermes from the Greek Taverna have been away from the homeland too long, but those boys can still pronouce an Upsilon!



     



    Ha, yeah, I'm more disputing whether that "hyuee", to a non Greek, sounds more like it genuinely has an "h" or is more like a "y"  



    And for that matter, our own perception of how it sounds is going to be colored by our own regional accents/dialects and what we're accustomed to hearing.









    But the "G" spelling and how it should sound that way, is a red herring.



    It does make me wonder how the G-spelling ever happened, though, since even butchuring the Upsilon spelling into a directly anglicized U-spelling or Y-spelling would have been more accurate in the first place, it seems.
  • I've never heard them called "Euros". I've heard either "jee-rows","jy-rows",or "hot Carls". XD



    Of course where I am at,we have one Greek restaurant (Athena's) and approximately 432.379 Tex Mex restaurants.
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos

     
     

    Lamb?! That's so weird.

     

    What is weird about lamb?



    Lamb and goat are both pretty great, if they're cooked right.



    It would probably be harder to find goat, without buying a whole one, but you can leg of lamb and ground lamb at pretty much any grocery store.



     

    I just don't see much of it here, if at all. Culture shock, that sort of thing.



    The most common meats I'm famililar with is the various portions of pork, chicken and the typical bovine. Maybe seafood. Anything else is pretty much exotic for me.



     
  • Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos

     
     

    Lamb?! That's so weird.

     

    What is weird about lamb?



    Lamb and goat are both pretty great, if they're cooked right.



    It would probably be harder to find goat, without buying a whole one, but you can leg of lamb and ground lamb at pretty much any grocery store.



     

    I just don't see much of it here, if at all. Culture shock, that sort of thing.



    The most common meats I'm famililar with is the various portions of pork, chicken and the typical bovine. Maybe seafood. Anything else is pretty much exotic for me.



     

    I'm not saying that your grocery store has a full section dedicated to it, but I would be really surprised if they didnt' have a single provider of ground lamb (vacuum packed in those little square packages) or leg of lamb (probably netted and bagged).





     
  • Originally posted by: Wikipedia



    A gyro or gyros (Greek: γύρος, gyros, literally 'turn') is a Greek dish...

    However you pronounce it, the root word meaning is the same. Huh. Neat.

     
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos

     
     

    Lamb?! That's so weird.

     

    What is weird about lamb?



    Lamb and goat are both pretty great, if they're cooked right.



    It would probably be harder to find goat, without buying a whole one, but you can leg of lamb and ground lamb at pretty much any grocery store.



     

    I just don't see much of it here, if at all. Culture shock, that sort of thing.



    The most common meats I'm famililar with is the various portions of pork, chicken and the typical bovine. Maybe seafood. Anything else is pretty much exotic for me.



     

    I'm not saying that your grocery store has a full section dedicated to it, but I would be really surprised if they didnt' have a single provider of ground lamb (vacuum packed in those little square packages) or leg of lamb (probably netted and bagged).





     

    Yeah I'll have to keep an eye out then. Again, I can't knock it 'till I try it.  



    But I do have a feeling that it's pretty esoteric in my state compared to other meats. Might fetch for a higer price like a whole Turkey or something.



     
  • Originally posted by: gunpei

     
    Originally posted by: Wikipedia



    A gyro or gyros (Greek: γύρος, gyros, literally 'turn') is a Greek dish...

    However you pronounce it, the root word meaning is the same. Huh. Neat.

     

    Well, now that you mention it, that probably explains the anglicized spelling completely...  



    That is, seeking to meet the definition, rather than the intended pronunciation or phonetic spelling.



     
  • Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos







    But I do have a feeling that it's pretty esoteric in my state compared to other meats. Might fetch for a higer price like a whole Turkey or something.



     

    Are whole turkeys unusually expensive in FL for some reason?



    Whole birds (of any kind) are generally considerably cheaper than buying the meat in any other format.

    (same tends to go for other "bulk" meat purchase -- pork shoulder, whole hams, etc -- where you're talking about meat of at least 5 - 10 lbs, or more)



     
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos







    But I do have a feeling that it's pretty esoteric in my state compared to other meats. Might fetch for a higer price like a whole Turkey or something.



     

    Are whole turkeys unusually expensive in FL for some reason?



    Whole birds (of any kind) are generally considerably cheaper than buying the meat in any other format.

    (same tends to go for other "bulk" meat purchase -- pork shoulder, whole hams, etc -- where you're talking about meat of at least 5 - 10 lbs, or more)



     

    Despite whole turkeys not being something you'd normally bring to the table over here unless it's the holidays, maybe I'm thinking they're a little more expensive during the season probably due to the demand during that time?



    Maybe it's a BBQ thing too? lol It could be cheaper now that the holidays have died down? I dunno. It is a lot more of a common thing than lambs.





     
  • Those are sold a lot over here.
  • Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos







    But I do have a feeling that it's pretty esoteric in my state compared to other meats. Might fetch for a higer price like a whole Turkey or something.



     

    Are whole turkeys unusually expensive in FL for some reason?



    Whole birds (of any kind) are generally considerably cheaper than buying the meat in any other format.

    (same tends to go for other "bulk" meat purchase -- pork shoulder, whole hams, etc -- where you're talking about meat of at least 5 - 10 lbs, or more)



     

    Despite whole turkeys not being something you'd normally bring to the table over here unless it's the holidays, maybe I'm thinking they're a little more expensive during the season probably due to the demand during that time?



    Maybe it's a BBQ thing too? lol It could be cheaper now that the holidays have died down? I dunno. It is a lot more of a common thing than lambs.





     

    Turkey prices are heavily dependent on when you buy them.



    They are actually loss leaders for the grocery store at thanksgiving.

    And then shortly after thanksgiving they have to clear the stock, so they'll go down to like $0.80/lbs.





    I'd actually expect turkey to cost MORE, out of "season" at the grocery store, since that would be the unsubsidized price.

     
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos







    But I do have a feeling that it's pretty esoteric in my state compared to other meats. Might fetch for a higer price like a whole Turkey or something.



     

    Are whole turkeys unusually expensive in FL for some reason?



    Whole birds (of any kind) are generally considerably cheaper than buying the meat in any other format.

    (same tends to go for other "bulk" meat purchase -- pork shoulder, whole hams, etc -- where you're talking about meat of at least 5 - 10 lbs, or more)



     

    Despite whole turkeys not being something you'd normally bring to the table over here unless it's the holidays, maybe I'm thinking they're a little more expensive during the season probably due to the demand during that time?



    Maybe it's a BBQ thing too? lol It could be cheaper now that the holidays have died down? I dunno. It is a lot more of a common thing than lambs.





     

    Turkey prices are heavily dependent on when you buy them.



    They are actually loss leaders for the grocery store at thanksgiving.

    And then shortly after thanksgiving they have to clear the stock, so they'll go down to like $0.80/lbs.





    I'd actually expect turkey to cost MORE, out of "season" at the grocery store, since that would be the unsubsidized price.

     

    Could be locale as well. I'm not sure how the import/export is regulated down here, but the overall economy down here isn't all too great all things considered.



    Homework assignment for me tomorrow: To seek out lamb and to find out what the price for turkey is. lol



     
  • Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos







    But I do have a feeling that it's pretty esoteric in my state compared to other meats. Might fetch for a higer price like a whole Turkey or something.



     

    Are whole turkeys unusually expensive in FL for some reason?



    Whole birds (of any kind) are generally considerably cheaper than buying the meat in any other format.

    (same tends to go for other "bulk" meat purchase -- pork shoulder, whole hams, etc -- where you're talking about meat of at least 5 - 10 lbs, or more)



     

    Despite whole turkeys not being something you'd normally bring to the table over here unless it's the holidays, maybe I'm thinking they're a little more expensive during the season probably due to the demand during that time?



    Maybe it's a BBQ thing too? lol It could be cheaper now that the holidays have died down? I dunno. It is a lot more of a common thing than lambs.





     

    Turkey prices are heavily dependent on when you buy them.



    They are actually loss leaders for the grocery store at thanksgiving.

    And then shortly after thanksgiving they have to clear the stock, so they'll go down to like $0.80/lbs.





    I'd actually expect turkey to cost MORE, out of "season" at the grocery store, since that would be the unsubsidized price.

     

    Could be locale as well. I'm not sure how the import/export is regulated down here, but the overall economy down here isn't all too great all things considered.



    Homework assignment for me tomorrow: To seek out lamb and to find out what the price for turkey is. lol



     





    Damn you guys went and drove this thing right off the tracks



     



    I had a freaking gyro today.  With some amazing fucking garlic fries, better than anything they got in gilroy  
  • Originally posted by: MrWunderful

     
    Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos







    But I do have a feeling that it's pretty esoteric in my state compared to other meats. Might fetch for a higer price like a whole Turkey or something.



     

    Are whole turkeys unusually expensive in FL for some reason?



    Whole birds (of any kind) are generally considerably cheaper than buying the meat in any other format.

    (same tends to go for other "bulk" meat purchase -- pork shoulder, whole hams, etc -- where you're talking about meat of at least 5 - 10 lbs, or more)



     

    Despite whole turkeys not being something you'd normally bring to the table over here unless it's the holidays, maybe I'm thinking they're a little more expensive during the season probably due to the demand during that time?



    Maybe it's a BBQ thing too? lol It could be cheaper now that the holidays have died down? I dunno. It is a lot more of a common thing than lambs.





     

    Turkey prices are heavily dependent on when you buy them.



    They are actually loss leaders for the grocery store at thanksgiving.

    And then shortly after thanksgiving they have to clear the stock, so they'll go down to like $0.80/lbs.





    I'd actually expect turkey to cost MORE, out of "season" at the grocery store, since that would be the unsubsidized price.

     

    Could be locale as well. I'm not sure how the import/export is regulated down here, but the overall economy down here isn't all too great all things considered.



    Homework assignment for me tomorrow: To seek out lamb and to find out what the price for turkey is. lol



     





    Damn you guys went and drove this thing right off the tracks



     



    I had a freaking gyro today.  With some amazing fucking garlic fries, better than anything they got in gilroy  

    lol sorry about that. Totally my fault since I did ask the base question to begin with.



    I did get my answer though. Thanks to everyone who helped me out on that. I'm basically a gyro-virgin and I need to explore this wonderful world of lamb sammiches that most y'all get to do.   



     


  • Here's my thoughts on the matter
  • I'd just like to jump in to say that while gyros are delicious (pronounced the same way as in gyroscope btw) they pale in comparison to the mighty döner kebab. You've got to get it komplett with the schafskase and all and in Germany. It's the most amazing blend of Turkish and German tastes. The lamb is spiced differently from what the Greeks do and the cabbagy goodness with the sauces are life alteringly good.
  • Earlier I mentioned getting kababs in England while I was there for some short term work. A turkish restaurant had these kababs. The owner was also the cook and On my firdt vidit I asked for a kabab but no cabbage.



    Now, you have to picture he situation. He was a BIG guy. I mean, like an American Football player big. He was pretty nice, but when I said that, he firmly told me that I would either get with the cabbage or not at all. It kind of gave you the vibe like he was mafia, but so long as you didn't cross him, he was pretty cool and I wadn't about to make him angry.



    Scared the crap out of me so I basically said "yessir" like the good Southern boy that I was and I took kabab. Glad I did though. The crazy-joker knew his food and was right.
  • Today's lunch:



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    There is a pita under there, and since I don't care for tomatoes I get jalapenos on it instead.
  • Originally posted by: captmorgandrinker

    Today's lunch:



    image



    There is a pita under there, and since I don't care for tomatoes I get jalapenos on it instead.



    brilliant. Jalapeños go good with anything
  • Gyros will forever be "jy-ros". It's a gyroscope not a euroscope or some such bastard pronunciation.

    Also lamb rocks and I'm quoting this because this is how I'm getting my jyros from now on.
    Originally posted by: captmorgandrinker

    Today's lunch:



    image



    There is a pita under there, and since I don't care for tomatoes I get jalapenos on it instead.



  • I think u mean "guy-rose" and "guy-ro-scope"?
  • Originally posted by: gunpei

    I think u mean "guy-rose" and "guy-ro-scope"?
    Nope.


    Phonetic spelling:
    Originally posted by: dictionary.com

    jahy-ruh-skohp


    Also in regards to gyro:
    Originally posted by: quora.com

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  • Also, that may or may not be NESDJ's pilfered pickle off to the left...
  • Originally posted by: JamesRobot

      Nope. Phonetic spelling:
    Originally posted by: dictionary.com



    jahy-ruh-skohp



    Originally posted by: dictionary.com

    facetious [fuh-see-shuh s] adjective 1. not meant to be taken seriously or literally: a facetious remark.


    Originally posted by: JamesRobot

    Also in regards to gyro:

    Originally posted by: quora.com



    image


    So all one can do is "overpronounce" or deliberately mispronounce? And what is this " "Official" American pronunciation"? Who on quora.com decides this? For that matter what's quora.com and where does it get off telling people what sounds "stupid", certainly not what I would expect from an alleged expert or authority of any sort, lol
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