Imagine playing The Legend of Zelda for a score

XerxesXerxes
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Concept art, found below, shows that a scoring system was considered for the Legend of Zelda. How do you think it would have effected the design and ultimately the experience of LoZ.



https://www.nintendo.co.uk/News/2016/December/Take-a-look-behind-the-scenes-with-design-documents-from-The-Legend-of-Zelda--1169414.html

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  • arch_8ngelarch_8ngel
    Is there any clear description of what the score was actually measuring?



    It looks very similar to the DK scoring (points + timer).

    Might have been interesting to have some kind of bonus (or penalty) related to dungeon speed-of-completion.
  • mattbepmattbep
    Probably just gained from killing monsters. Since this would be rather meaningless, that would be why they forgot about it.
  • arch_8ngelarch_8ngel
    Originally posted by: mattbep



    Probably just gained from killing monsters. Since this would be rather meaningless, that would be why they forgot about it.

    Yet they included an entirely meaningless score feature in my favorite game StarTropics    



     
  • EstilEstil
    Seeing these original grid drawings is so neat! Did anyone yet make a PDF copy of that Nintendo Game Counselor's binder from a few months back? Do any of you guys who can program for NES use those grid drawings also? I sure wish I had that kind of smarts  
  • SoleGooseProductionsSoleGooseProductions

    Originally posted by: Estil



    Seeing these original grid drawings is so neat! Did anyone yet make a PDF copy of that Nintendo Game Counselor's binder from a few months back? Do any of you guys who can program for NES use those grid drawings also? I sure wish I had that kind of smarts  



    I scanned the one out of Hyrule Historia several years ago, and use it regularly for coutning tiles or background addresses when laying out screens. I did the initial layout for a test level for Spook-o'-tron right on top of the Zelda one, but it was not aggressive enough (and took an hour to type up!), so I ended up with an in-game level editior instead. I tried to get KHan to make a blank template, based on the Zelda template, but it got lost in all of my many requests for things I think  . The man does so much! There might be a couple of changes that I would make, based on experience, but Nintendo's worksheets cover almost everything. Someday...


  • pegboypegboy
    An RPG with a score is about as useful as Tetris with a story.
  • KHAN GamesKHAN Games
    Originally posted by: SoleGooseProductions

     
    Originally posted by: Estil



    Seeing these original grid drawings is so neat! Did anyone yet make a PDF copy of that Nintendo Game Counselor's binder from a few months back? Do any of you guys who can program for NES use those grid drawings also? I sure wish I had that kind of smarts  



    I tried to get KHan to make a blank template, based on the Zelda template, but it got lost in all of my many requests for things I think  .



    Oops!



    ::goes back to the dungeon::

     
  • GuntzGuntz

    Originally posted by: mattbep



    Probably just gained from killing monsters. Since this would be rather meaningless, that would be why they forgot about it.





    Probably worked similar to Mega Man 1, which also had a scoring system.
  • CMRCMR
    I would have loved it just because it's crazy pointless.
  • NostalgicMachineNostalgicMachine
    MAN, those concept drawings make me tingle right in the nostalgia.



    Thank you for this, OP.
  • IchinisanIchinisan
    Old Nintendo of Japan president was not a gamer, but thought he knew what made games popular. He used to insist that games have a score for no good reason.
  • XerxesXerxes
    Originally posted by: NostalgicMachine



    MAN, those concept drawings make me tingle right in the nostalgia.



    Thank you for this, OP.



    I know right. When I saw those images, I heard the discovery sound from LoZ. Duu Nuu Nuu

     
  • jonebonejonebone
    Thanks for sharing, glad I got to see those!
  • ZBomberZBomber
    These are really cool! Would love to see more concept drawings like this.
  • Mega Mario ManMega Mario Man
    Originally posted by: Estil



    Seeing these original grid drawings is so neat! Did anyone yet make a PDF copy of that Nintendo Game Counselor's binder from a few months back? Do any of you guys who can program for NES use those grid drawings also? I sure wish I had that kind of smarts  



    I made something pretty darn similar in Excel that I use to find sprite location in reference in background tiles. NESScreenTool is a nice drawing tool that tells your background tile address, so I just use that to find out the tile and then use the excel sheet to see what sprite coordinates match that location.

     
  • Mega Mario ManMega Mario Man
    Originally posted by: ZBomber



    These are really cool! Would love to see more concept drawings like this.





    I think some were released for Super Mario Bros. a while back.
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