AV Toploader...

Dr. MorbisDr. Morbis
in Collector's Corner
Have any of you young fellers ever come across a Toploader with AV outs?



I need someone with both an AV famicom and a US Toploader to check and see if the pin connectors and top halfs of the plastic shells can be easily swapped...
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  • projectingstarsprojectingstars
    I seriously doubt this is an actual US AV Top Loader, but I'd love for someone to prove me otherwise.



    Top Loader + no jail bars = WIN.
  • pats1717pats1717
    Previous Discussion Here



    http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=3&threadid=12789&highlight_key=y&keyword1=av toploader'
  • ParpunkParpunk
    i have a av (red white and yellow jacks) modded top loader but it still shows jail bars just not as bad. would be sweet to get someone to do a mod like this with no jail bars, man that would be sweet.
  • MartonMarton
    I thought about this the other day, would it be possible the video/audio output part of a front loader, and put inside/outside the toploader ?
  • mark_kmark_k
    Originally posted by: projectingstars

    I seriously doubt this is an actual US AV Top Loader, but I'd love for someone to prove me otherwise.



    There's little doubt the one shown in the YouTube videos is genuine. If you look at the first part of the video at about 1:30 in you can see the main board. Notice the Nintendo board ID, NESN-CPU-AV-01. You can also see the 12 pins of the multi-out connector on the underside of the board.

    I remember reading a few years ago about how Nintendo would sometimes swap out a normal top-loader for the AV version if someone complained about the picture problems. I'm guessing they did a small production run of the AV version late in the NES's life. The PCB is dated 1994.
  • KyleKyle
     I remember reading a few years ago about how Nintendo would sometimes swap out a normal top-loader for the AV version if someone complained about the picture problems. I'm guessing they did a small production run of the AV version late in the NES's life. The PCB is dated 1994.
    I was able to get one doing this. I actually bought a top loader used, called Nintendo to complain and they sent me one in return with AV out that didn't have the banding issue. I was blown away at the generosity of the big N.

    I would post pictures if I had it on me. It's in storage at my parent's house. I'll try and pick it up the next time I'm over there. I know this may read like a lame first post. I'm a moderator over at shoryuken.com (same username) if that helps establish any credibility.
  • absolutsydabsolutsyd
    Seems like this would be a pretty big revelation if it were true! And, if there are a few verified ones out there, what would the value be?
  • MasonSushiMasonSushi
    don't know, but I want one. image
  • ParpunkParpunk
    Originally posted by: MasonSushi

    don't know, but I want one. image

    me too

  • dr.robbiedr.robbie
    Originally posted by: Parpunk

    Originally posted by: MasonSushi

    don't know, but I want one. image

    me too


    x3 the output format is really the only bad thing about the toploader. I would love to upgrade mine to AV image

  • MasonSushiMasonSushi
    I am considering modding mine. I just need to find somebody with reasonable prices and to do it the way I want.
  • KyleKyle
    Originally posted by: absolutsyd

    Seems like this would be a pretty big revelation if it were true! And, if there are a few verified ones out there, what would the value be?

    Anyone want to throw a number out there? If it's something wild I'd probably be willing to sell it. Mine was almost never used because I played on and repaired the older toaster systems. I used to collect NES games back in the day. I've been emulating for so many years it's not even funny (Nesticle came out in '97). We have a boy on the way and I was thinking of introducing him to a NES with a Powerpak from RetroZone. Any thoughts?
  • EarlyWormEarlyWorm
    I have one of these stashed away. ( I collect NES consoles ). It is not for sale, but I would be happy to share any info from it. I am sure there are a lot of the "tech guys" that have knowledge of these boards and parts. And have the insight and ability to answer/verify any queries about this unit.
  • BeaglePussBeaglePuss
    Any pictures that you guys have of the units would be greatly appreciated.
  • absolutsydabsolutsyd
    I also would like to see pictures of your units... just make sure to make the thread NSFW!
  • Slash ManSlash Man

    $200 - $400 out of box. The prototype didn't even sell for $500.

  • Slash ManSlash Man
     

    Hello,

     

    Contrary to what you might have been told, Nintendo did not release a top loading NES system with audio/video inputs. 

     

    Sincerely,

     

    Dervin Camden
    Nintendo of America Inc.

    Nintendo's home page: http://www.nintendo.com/ 

    Power Line (Automated Product Info): (425) 885-7529




    Nintendo's answer.
  • ParpunkParpunk
    yea id like to see some pictures of these too
  • EarlyWormEarlyWorm
    Well, I would sure like some knowledgable individuals to take a look at it and then give some opinions about this beast. Are there going to be any folks at the event that PSerge is hosting in Nashville that could disect it and give some insight? It would be a reasonably short trip for me to drop it by ( or send it ).....and the information it might shed would be valuable to this site (and me). It would be a great "hands-on"....and I would love to have some questions finally answered.
  • KyleKyle
    Time for a bump. I just posted this on NesDev as well.

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    I spent a couple of hours today digging this out of storage at my parents house across state. It's been untouched for probably the last ten years. It's also ridiculously minty since I was a collector back then and I played on my toaster system rather than this beauty.

    I have a tri-wing screwdriver but I'd honestly prefer not to open it. I guarantee you this is not some type of hack job. I don't even come close to having the skill set required to pull this off.

    If anyone wants to throw a number at me I'd appreciate it.
  • BellaBella
    I cant find the pics again. However I know I posted some of earlyworm's from the campout. It was taken apart at the campout.



    On another note I would love to have an AV toploader.
  • tacolinowesttacolinowest
    i didnt know they maid these??? someone please explain!
  • NewUser123456789NewUser123456789
    From the letter I was shown at the campout, Nintendo sent a few customers teh AV Toploader to replace their Toploader if you called Nintendo and complained about the poor video from the Toploader. I will dig around and see if I can find the pics and the letter that was shown earlier this year. The Toploader was taken apart and lots of photos were snapped.
  • DainDain
    Here ya go:



    http://www.nintendoage.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=Users.Photos&User=Dain&Album_ID=295#id295
  • absolutsydabsolutsyd
    This is pretty darn cool, anyone have any kind of estimate of how many of these exist? Or any kind value estimate?
  • caveman_gamescaveman_games
    Ive got three top loaders and none of them have the AV hookup....Darn!
  • Slash ManSlash Man
    I still see no solid proof, as Nintendo actively denies this.
  • NewUser123456789NewUser123456789
    Originally posted by: Slash Man

    I still see no solid proof, as Nintendo actively denies this.





    Slash man, look at the pics Dain posted, and check out the letter from Nintendo.
  • Koopa64Koopa64
    Eh, Nintendo is rarely helpful with anything they made over 15 years ago. I certainly wouldn't hang on their word over prototypes.



    Concerning the AV Top Loader, I believe it's real. One possible explanation I've heard is that people complained to Nintendo about the RF quality/RF only connection, so Nintendo had these systems sent in and fitted them with Multi-AV ports.



    Sounds quite logical and realistic IMO, it's probably happened lots in the industry.

    EDIT: Didn't notice somebody already mentioned this explanation. In this case, just hear that I'm backing up that possibility. image
  • BeaglePussBeaglePuss
    Originally posted by: Slash Man

    I still see no solid proof, as Nintendo actively denies this.

    I can't tell if this is a joke or not.

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