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  • What a fucking game! Right on a Pats victory, but a bit off on the score, just as I'm sure everyone was. I called a 27 - 21 Pats win, and it looks like I had the the 6 point difference right but that says nothing as to how the game went down.



    Holy hell, what a show!
  • Originally posted by: yukfou

     
    Originally posted by: RetroReploid

     
    Originally posted by: xMaGuSx



    Unbelievable. Even if you hate the pats, you have to admit that was an insane comeback.



    Greatest comeback of all-time. Congrats. I feel so bad for those fans in Atlanta but they had all the chances to put it away. Unfortunately they gave chances to the greatest QB of all-time.

     

    *Greatest Super Bowl comeback. The Eagles scoring 4tds in 8 and a half minutes in the 4th quarter against the Giants is the greatest football comeback. The greatest sports comeback ever might be Texas A&M coming back when they were down 12pts against UNI in the March madness basketball tournament with 44 seconds to go in the game. 



     





    I think the context makes it the greatest comeback of all-time. I don't think that Eagles comeback was even close.



    edit: and I was talking nfl
  • Called it.  
  • Originally posted by: empire



    Turning point was Atlanta getting in FG range, throwing instead of running, like idiots, and then getting pushed back and getting 0 points out of the drive. That was the nail in the coffin. The defense just ran outta gas, they were on the field most of the game.



    Yep. Bigger mistake than Darth Hoodie going for the onside too early. Game ends differently if the Falcons get 3 on that drive.

     
  • Did that really happen?



    Guys?
  • I told my wife going into the 4th quarter that you can't count Tom Brady out. I was surprised that Atlanta couldn't even manage to get a field goal in the 4th. I was going for Atlanta but truth be told, I don't really have a dog in the fight either way. Really makes no difference to me. That said Brady has to go down as the best QB ever. Maybe not the most physically gifted but the guy just knows how to get it done. He doesn't make the huge down-field throws like he did 5 or so years ago but he has pretty seamlessly adapted his game without any obvious drop off. I'd be willing to bet he's got one more run him. Atlanta's defense got tired for sure. They were on the field way too much for them to be able to hang on. When Atlanta lost the coin toss in OT I was expected it to end the way it did.
  • Originally posted by: dukeofhurl99



    I told my wife going into the 4th quarter that you can't count Tom Brady out. I was surprised that Atlanta couldn't even manage to get a field goal in the 4th. I was going for Atlanta but truth be told, I don't really have a dog in the fight either way. Really makes no difference to me. That said Brady has to go down as the best QB ever. Maybe not the most physically gifted but the guy just knows how to get it done. He doesn't make the huge down-field throws like he did 5 or so years ago but he has pretty seamlessly adapted his game without any obvious drop off. I'd be willing to bet he's got one more run him. Atlanta's defense got tired for sure. They were on the field way too much for them to be able to hang on. When Atlanta lost the coin toss in OT I was expected it to end the way it did.

    Well said about Tom Brady, that was simply amazing last night and he looked like the Terminator out there on those last 3 drives - unstoppable.  At 39?  Wow, he was getting pummeled out there a lot in the early parts.  Toss in that freak catch, what a great game to watch through to the end.  Congrats Pats fans - that's why Tom Brady earns every single dollar he makes.



     
  • Originally posted by: Prime2099



    If there is anything for people to complain about it is Edelman's catch. I was looking at some posts on Facebook and people were saying the ball hit the ground. But they are just haters. I'm not gonna have a voice tomorrow after all that yelling I did. I was in a bar with Ravens fans all night so it was mostly terrible until the end, after the 4th quarter they shut up, it was great!

    The nose of the ball did touch the ground in his hands, but since that didn't help assist with the catch (or make the ball change direction) that still counts as a catch in the NFL rulebook.



    That was just insane, but that's what happens when your D is out there for way too many plays against somebody like Tom Brady.



     
  • When they were down 28-3 and Brady hit a good pass on an out an up to the running back, I said "Uh oh, don't call it a comeback!" and everyone laughed. I was doing it jokingly but I did expect it to get close at the end.



    Will probably go down at the biggest comeback of history with magnitude of the game considered. The other one that comes to mind is when the Seahawks came back to beat the Packers in OT during the NFC Championship game two years ago. For those who forgot, GB got an inception and TOOK A KNEE with about 4 minutes left because the game was that much "over". Seahawks get stops, rattle off a couple of scores to force OT in the last 3 minutes and got their SB appearance.
  • I am still in shock, even to this morning. I just watched the highlights and it's unbelievable that Patriots can be down so much, yet they still had the drive in them.



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  • Originally posted by: captmorgandrinker

     
    Originally posted by: Prime2099



    If there is anything for people to complain about it is Edelman's catch. I was looking at some posts on Facebook and people were saying the ball hit the ground. But they are just haters. I'm not gonna have a voice tomorrow after all that yelling I did. I was in a bar with Ravens fans all night so it was mostly terrible until the end, after the 4th quarter they shut up, it was great!

    The nose of the ball did touch the ground in his hands, but since that didn't help assist with the catch (or make the ball change direction) that still counts as a catch in the NFL rulebook.

     





    Looking at 16:44, I don't think it touched the ground at all.



    Edit, actually, it does look like the nose barely brushed the ground, but I think he had possession before that.
  • The nose of the ball in NO way touched the ground. Look at the clip again in this video. It was a legit catch. It bounced around off the players foot. Not even the Falcons are trying to say it hit the ground because you can clearly see it in the review. 



    http://www.si.com/nfl/2017/02/05/julian-edelman-patriots-falcons-super-bowl-fourth-quarter-catch
  • Originally posted by: xMaGuSx



    The nose of the ball in NO way touched the ground. Look at the clip again in this video. It was a legit catch. It bounced around off the players foot. Not even the Falcons are trying to say it hit the ground because you can clearly see it in the review. 



    http://www.si.com/nfl/2017/02/05/...

    Look just after it hits the player's foot/leg.   He secures it and the nose barely brushes the ground.



    Again, that doesn't overturn anything unless he didn't have the ball secured or if the nose brush ended up helping secure the ball.   So while the uproarers are correct that the ball brushed the ground; they are incorrect in their interpretation of that mattering in this situation.



     
  • Originally posted by: captmorgandrinker

     
    Originally posted by: xMaGuSx



    The nose of the ball in NO way touched the ground. Look at the clip again in this video. It was a legit catch. It bounced around off the players foot. Not even the Falcons are trying to say it hit the ground because you can clearly see it in the review. 



    http://www.si.com/nfl/2017/02/05/julian-edelman-patriots-fal...

    Look just after it hits the player's foot/leg.   He secures it and the nose barely brushes the ground.



    Again, that doesn't overturn anything unless he didn't have the ball secured or if the nose brush ended up helping secure the ball.   So while the uproarers are correct that the ball brushed the ground; they are incorrect in their interpretation of that mattering in this situation.

     

    I honestly just am not seeing it brother :/ I am watching the ball the whole time in slow motion and not once does the ball touch. Even Alford is quoted as watching the replay and saying he can't believe his own foot that kept it from touching the ground ruined the play for the Falcons. 



    I haven't seen any uproars on either side. Everyone is pretty accepting it didn't touch the ground   But hey i could be wrong. 
  • It looks like it's a question of millimeters.
  • Originally posted by: xMaGuSx

     
    Originally posted by: captmorgandrinker

     
    Originally posted by: xMaGuSx



    The nose of the ball in NO way touched the ground. Look at the clip again in this video. It was a legit catch. It bounced around off the players foot. Not even the Falcons are trying to say it hit the ground because you can clearly see it in the review. 



    http://www.si.com/nfl/2017/02/05/julian-edelman-patriots-fal...

    Look just after it hits the player's foot/leg.   He secures it and the nose barely brushes the ground.



    Again, that doesn't overturn anything unless he didn't have the ball secured or if the nose brush ended up helping secure the ball.   So while the uproarers are correct that the ball brushed the ground; they are incorrect in their interpretation of that mattering in this situation.

     

    I honestly just am not seeing it brother :/ I am watching the ball the whole time in slow motion and not once does the ball touch. Even Alford is quoted as watching the replay and saying he can't believe his own foot that kept it from touching the ground ruined the play for the Falcons. 



    I haven't seen any uproars on either side. Everyone is pretty accepting it didn't touch the ground   But hey i could be wrong. 



    Me neither, but somebody else mentioned that.   Only thing I've seen is people trying to say the knee was down on the last play before the ball broke the plane, which isn't conclusive at all, and the Pats were gonna ram it in on the next play anyway.

     
  • I know it was a catch, everyone agrees it was a catch except for the haters on social media.
  • I hate the patriots. That was a catch all day. He had full possession of it when the ball tipped the ground and he never bobbled it.



    If someone thinks that not a catch I dont think I could ever take their opinion seriously again on sports lol
  • Originally posted by: RetroReploid

    Originally posted by: yukfou

     
    Originally posted by: RetroReploid

     
    Originally posted by: xMaGuSx



    Unbelievable. Even if you hate the pats, you have to admit that was an insane comeback.



    Greatest comeback of all-time. Congrats. I feel so bad for those fans in Atlanta but they had all the chances to put it away. Unfortunately they gave chances to the greatest QB of all-time.

     

    *Greatest Super Bowl comeback. The Eagles scoring 4tds in 8 and a half minutes in the 4th quarter against the Giants is the greatest football comeback. The greatest sports comeback ever might be Texas A&M coming back when they were down 12pts against UNI in the March madness basketball tournament with 44 seconds to go in the game. 



     





    I think the context makes it the greatest comeback of all-time. I don't think that Eagles comeback was even close.



    edit: and I was talking nfl




    The eagles had less time to make a comeback and were down by more points. The patriots comeback was no doubt a great one. You could also make the argument that the cavs and cubs' comebacks were better because they were each down 3-1 in their championship series and had to win 3 games in a row, not just 1.
  • Originally posted by: yukfou

     
     

    The eagles had less time to make a comeback and were down by more points. The patriots comeback was no doubt a great one. You could also make the argument that the cavs and cubs' comebacks were better because they were each down 3-1 in their championship series and had to win 3 games in a row, not just 1.

    Correct me if i am wrong but....the Pats were down 25 whole points in the third after the first half. The eagles at the most were down 24-3 at the half and then 31-10 in the third quarter. That at most is 21 points. How is that down more points than the pats 25?

     
  • Originally posted by: xMaGuSx

    Originally posted by: yukfou

     
     

    The eagles had less time to make a comeback and were down by more points. The patriots comeback was no doubt a great one. You could also make the argument that the cavs and cubs' comebacks were better because they were each down 3-1 in their championship series and had to win 3 games in a row, not just 1.

    Correct me if i am wrong but....the Pats were down 25 whole points in the third after the first half. The eagles at the most were down 24-3 at the half and then 31-10 in the third quarter. That at most is 21 points. How is that down more points than the pats 25?

     





    It's been a long past 24hrs haha. You're right, bigger deficit but the pats were only down 19 entering the 4th quarter. Eagles were down 21 with 8 and a half minutes left to play. And the eagles didn't even need to go to OT. They won on the last punt as time expired. So the eagles scored 28 points in 8 and a half minutes to win their game. Both are absolutely amazing comebacks. I rank the Texas A&M comeback at the top though. Im surprised no major news sources are mentioning that one.
  • Great comeback. But, there is a little recency bias here. The greatest comeback was Buffalo coming back and beating Houston, down 35-3 in the 3rd quarter, in the playoffs. Just my two cents.
  • What a way to let everyone down Atlanta and let the Kardashians of the NFL comeback and win another Super Bowl.
  • Originally posted by: SwiftFrost

    Great comeback. But, there is a little recency bias here. The greatest comeback was Buffalo coming back and beating Houston, down 35-3 in the 3rd quarter, in the playoffs. Just my two cents.





    It's up there but the bills were only down 4 going into the 4th. The greatest comebacks imo are the ones where you score the most points in the least amount of time towards the end of a game. 5 points in 5 seconds just to force OT in a game 6 is also ridiculously impressive
  • The Monday Night Miracle, anyone?



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monday_Night_Miracle_(American_football)
  • How much were the Colts trailing by against the Chiefs in the opening round 3 years ago? I want to say 41 to 14 and that was another crazy comeback where I couldn't believe my eyes. But regardless of all the arguments, doing it on the biggest stage ever gives it a huge bump. Offsets the biggest loss in SB history when they couldn't go 19 and 0  
  • Originally posted by: yukfou

     
    Originally posted by: SwiftFrost



    Great comeback. But, there is a little recency bias here. The greatest comeback was Buffalo coming back and beating Houston, down 35-3 in the 3rd quarter, in the playoffs. Just my two cents.







    It's up there but the bills were only down 4 going into the 4th. The greatest comebacks imo are the ones where you score the most points in the least amount of time towards the end of a game. 5 points in 5 seconds just to force OT in a game 6 is also ridiculously impressive



    None of those games matter as much as the Super Bowl. A comeback win of 10 points in the Super Bowl carries more weight than 20 in the playoffs or a comeback of 30 in the regular season. In 2014 the Browns came back 25 points in a regular season game but who cares or remembers? It was during the regular season and it certainly didn't get them anywhere. 



    The Bills comeback would have meant more had they won the big game afterwards. Just like the 1980 Winter Olympics Miracle on ice wouldn't have meant as much had they lost the following game and walked away with the silver. 



    I'd say the Bills comeback WAS the greatest comeback but many have already forgotten it. No one who saw this Super Bowl will ever forget it. 



     
  • Originally posted by: Buyatari

     
    Originally posted by: yukfou

     
    Originally posted by: SwiftFrost



    Great comeback. But, there is a little recency bias here. The greatest comeback was Buffalo coming back and beating Houston, down 35-3 in the 3rd quarter, in the playoffs. Just my two cents.







    It's up there but the bills were only down 4 going into the 4th. The greatest comebacks imo are the ones where you score the most points in the least amount of time towards the end of a game. 5 points in 5 seconds just to force OT in a game 6 is also ridiculously impressive



    None of those games matter as much as the Super Bowl. A comeback win of 10 points in the Super Bowl carries more weight than 20 in the playoffs or a comeback of 30 in the regular season. In 2014 the Browns came back 25 points in a regular season game but who cares or remembers? It was during the regular season and it certainly didn't get them anywhere. 



    The Bills comeback would have meant more had they won the big game afterwards. Just like the 1980 Winter Olympics Miracle on ice wouldn't have meant as much had they lost the following game and walked away with the silver. 



    I'd say the Bills comeback WAS the greatest comeback but many have already forgotten it. No one who saw this Super Bowl will ever forget it. 



     

    The patriots comeback is the best superbowl comeback for sure, but that's about it. You can make the argument for several other championship comebacks in other sports that they're better than the pats' comeback. Also, I find it interesting that we put more value on comebacks in games that mean more. Isn't a comeback a comeback regardless of the stakes of the game? It's just interesting how we rank stuff and what we consider to be most important.



     
  • The argument it has going for it, is that in the Superbowl, you have the 2 best teams. It's not regular season where you can beat up a shitty team like the Browns and score 25 at will. Both the Falcons and Patriots were significantly better than the other teams in the conference.



    I can't stand the Patriots, but what they did last night was pretty much the biggest come back in NFL history.
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