Werewolf X: Pokemon Again!

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  • Originally posted by: Bert



    1 vote away is about as close to death as you can get isn't it?   Didn't you also say claiming town means nothing? Because I am town.

    Right, you're probably screwed because there is no information right not to verify anything you say one way or another.  But if you did have a smoking gun (ie I'm a mason and my neighbor is X and can verify) you'd want to reveal that.



    The fact you're barely resisting this right now is something I am pondering.







     
  • Originally posted by: Brock Landers

    Originally posted by: Bert



    1 vote away is about as close to death as you can get isn't it?   Didn't you also say claiming town means nothing? Because I am town.

    Right, you're probably screwed because there is no information right not to verify anything you say one way or another.  But if you did have a smoking gun (ie I'm a mason and my neighbor is X and can verify) you'd want to reveal that.



    The fact you're barely resisting this right now is something I am pondering.







     



    barely resisting what? I've said multiple times I'm not a wolf and that got me no where, what good would it do now?  
  • It's all relative. pimp threw a fit when he got votes. You're both new players so I'm not sure how to read either behavior yet
  • Originally posted by: Brock Landers

    Bert if you are on the verge of death, you may need to reveal your character and role as a last resort. But only if you are literally about to die. Not only can we bring you back from the brink if the story checks out (which is unlikely in day 1), but the wolves may feel pressured to ensure the lynch wouldn't slip through their fingers.





    Anyways, I'm reviewing the twilight rules and drinking coffee to help wake up





    In theory this actually sounds like a plan, say you have a really good power (even if you don't), and sacrifice your self to ensure we get a wolf kill next round.
  • Originally posted by: rdools

    Originally posted by: Brock Landers

    Bert if you are on the verge of death, you may need to reveal your character and role as a last resort. But only if you are literally about to die. Not only can we bring you back from the brink if the story checks out (which is unlikely in day 1), but the wolves may feel pressured to ensure the lynch wouldn't slip through their fingers.





    Anyways, I'm reviewing the twilight rules and drinking coffee to help wake up





    In theory this actually sounds like a plan, say you have a really good power (even if you don't), and sacrifice your self to ensure we get a wolf kill next round.



    I've been saying this whole time I'm not a wolf. Never said I was town (other then my last post, I will do whatever I can at this point) looks like most people here can't take a hint.
  • Does that mean you're indy?
  • Originally posted by: Brock Landers

    Does that mean you're indy?





    Can we get a brief description of what an indy is, and what the goal is.
  • Originally posted by: rdools

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers



    Does that mean you're indy?







    Can we get a brief description of what an indy is, and what the goal is.

    Independant.  Some of the ones I remember in previous games



    Film Critic -  Needed to ensure 5 other players were killed and then won the game

    Pickpocket - Could win with town or the wolves, could steal from other players

    Pokemon Guy - could trap other Pokemon

    Shredder's daughter - could win with town or the wolves

    Deadpool - just f'ed everyone in the A

    Skrulls - tried to kill town and wolves



    They can be out for their own ends, or indirectly allied with one or the other, or both

     
  • Originally posted by: Bert



    It might



    Sooo... You just admitted you're an indy

     
  • Well bert my experience as playing an indy tells me you are definitely dead now.  Town will never trust you.

     
  • I'm gonna need a really good explanation on why I shouldn't vote for you then, because I'm very tempted to do so.
  • Town has nothing to worry about regarding me. But do what you will
  • What is your victory condition?
  • The player named Pokemon, formerly known as Sonic Boom, can be all sorts of things. Remember in a previous game we all thought Sonic Boom was a real person but was actually a fake character controlled by one of us. This Pokemon could be the manifestation of one person's power that red deploys as he sees fit or as the payer with the power describes. The point is the posts of Pokemon can be a useful source of information or misinformation. Approach with caution. GEG has some connection to it. The question is if the influence is direct (he's controlling it to show us something helpful or deceitful) or indirect (Pokemon posted prompted by a private communique between GEG and red but the post was not "decided" by GEG but by red).



    As for Bert, I'm about ready to cast the final vote on him and suffer the consquences of doing so. I have my own theory as to why I still don't think Bert is exonerated. Bert, when you're on the ropes like this you've got to fight harder to survive. Reveal your specific pokemon, role, powers if any, or something to keep your self alive. Bluff even! That's the name of the game. Do not go quietly into the night! Give us something to spare you or at least go out with a bang I say.
  • Originally posted by: Brock Landers

     
    Originally posted by: rdools

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers



    Does that mean you're indy?







    Can we get a brief description of what an indy is, and what the goal is.

    Independant.  Some of the ones I remember in previous games



    Film Critic -  Needed to ensure 5 other players were killed and then won the game

    Pickpocket - Could win with town or the wolves, could steal from other players

    Pokemon Guy - could trap other Pokemon

    Shredder's daughter - could win with town or the wolves

    Deadpool - just f'ed everyone in the A

    Skrulls - tried to kill town and wolves



    They can be out for their own ends, or indirectly allied with one or the other, or both

     



    Hmm... Could that mean he might have the jester role? Indy could be good or bad and yes Deadpool messed us up bad. How does this change the thought process around this vote?
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    hows that?



    you all have all the info you need to make a decision, not just from me but from others speculation.



    hope you make the right choice.
  • I've only been in a few games of werewolf and I've had a town role in every one. In each game I've played, indys were worth lynching.



    Can anyone give me a reason why Bert shouldn't be strung up right now? His abilities and win condition could be anything.



    To me we have a better chance to prevail over the wolves if we reduce the randomness and confusion indies can bring.
  • Originally posted by: Bert



    image





    hows that?



    you all have all the info you need to make a decision, not just from me but from others speculation.



    hope you make the right choice.



    Interesting.   

     
  • UNVOTE: bert



    Gonna bring him back from the brink so no one can rashly pull the trigger early.

     
  • Loving the nickname Bert and dropping the bomb. Nice to see I sort of guessed you right. Ok, so you say you're an indy. No reason to not believe that right now. Brock asked for your win condition and you told Town not to worry. Who would you, at this moment, think is a wolf?



    Brock didn't you in a previous game only need to survive a certain number of days to win?
  • Originally posted by: Bronty



    I've only been in a few games of werewolf and I've had a town role in every one. In each game I've played, indys were worth lynching.



    Can anyone give me a reason why Bert shouldn't be strung up right now? His abilities and win condition could be anything.



    To me we have a better chance to prevail over the wolves if we reduce the randomness and confusion indies can bring.

    I tried to explain this in the Final Fantasy game, but when I was allied with both the wolves and town I figured it out it was in my best interest to serve town so they would not lynch me, because the wolves would be stupid to waste a night kill on someone that could win with them.  Of course I was also stealing from town to protect me from them, which ended up costing me. 



    Assuming bert has this exact situation and came to the same conclusion as me, we'd be killing an ally



    There is also a chance he can hurt the wolves in some way during the night.  Which means they would be interested in killing him (and not one of us), which means one less night for us to worry about





    But yes, in general the indy can not be trusted



     
  • Originally posted by: jmbarnes101

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers

     
    Originally posted by: rdools

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers



    Does that mean you're indy?







    Can we get a brief description of what an indy is, and what the goal is.

    Independant.  Some of the ones I remember in previous games



    Film Critic -  Needed to ensure 5 other players were killed and then won the game

    Pickpocket - Could win with town or the wolves, could steal from other players

    Pokemon Guy - could trap other Pokemon

    Shredder's daughter - could win with town or the wolves

    Deadpool - just f'ed everyone in the A

    Skrulls - tried to kill town and wolves



    They can be out for their own ends, or indirectly allied with one or the other, or both

     



    Hmm... Could that mean he might have the jester role? Indy could be good or bad and yes Deadpool messed us up bad. How does this change the thought process around this vote?





    I don't see a jester role being put into one of these games. As someone who ran a game, do you really want it to be able to be ended in a manner of days just by the death of one person, I don't see that being fun as that person just has to act somewhat suspicious and then get voted out day 1 and bam games over jester wins.



  • Originally posted by: jmbarnes101



    Loving the nickname Bert and dropping the bomb. Nice to see I sort of guessed you right. Ok, so you say you're an indy. No reason to not believe that right now. Brock asked for your win condition and you told Town not to worry. Who would you, at this moment, think is a wolf?



    Brock didn't you in a previous game only need to survive a certain number of days to win?

    No, that was just the conspiracy theory you all came up with



    I asked for several days grace period before my reveal because I needed time for cases built against other players, and I needed to steal protection items from you so I could protect myself from you.  Which I did.  Stupid force field screwd it all up.  Other than that I feel I played that round nearly perfectly.  Even tried to rally town to target NED who turned out to be Kefka



    Anyways, I digress



     
  • Originally posted by: Brock Landers

     
    Originally posted by: jmbarnes101



    Loving the nickname Bert and dropping the bomb. Nice to see I sort of guessed you right. Ok, so you say you're an indy. No reason to not believe that right now. Brock asked for your win condition and you told Town not to worry. Who would you, at this moment, think is a wolf?



    Brock didn't you in a previous game only need to survive a certain number of days to win?

    No, that was just the conspiracy theory you all came up with



    I asked for several days grace period before my reveal because I needed time for cases built against other players, and I needed to steal protection items from you so I could protect myself from you.  Which I did.  Stupid force field screwd it all up.  Other than that I feel I played that round nearly perfectly.  Even tried to rally town to target NED who turned out to be Kefka



    Anyways, I digress



     



    Good guess on NES.



    Ok, so Bert is a 50/50 gamble right now.  What are we going to do? 

     
  • Originally posted by: jmbarnes101



    Loving the nickname Bert and dropping the bomb. Nice to see I sort of guessed you right. Ok, so you say you're an indy. No reason to not believe that right now. Brock asked for your win condition and you told Town not to worry. Who would you, at this moment, think is a wolf?



    Brock didn't you in a previous game only need to survive a certain number of days to win?

    I was suspecting pimp as a wolf since he was so eager to weed out a special role, but that would be rather hypocritical since we both kinda ended up in the same spot to a degree. only reason I haven't unvoted him was because I wasn't 100% sure of the math as to whether I'd be lynched at that point. plus he was honest and respectful in Big Brother so I do trust his word, even though if he were a wolf he could be saying the same thing. Otherwise I'm not sure, If I werent in the position I am in Id be targeting an inactive because there isnt much else to go off of at this point

     
  • I mean, like bronty said we should probably kill him. Indy's are too risky.



    And bizarre behavior or not, the odds are still pretty good Pimp is town. A bert lynch has less risk





    The exception is if Bert gives us a believable victory condition that that can be leveraged against the wolves.
  • Originally posted by: Brock Landers



    I mean, like bronty said we should probably kill him. Indy's are too risky.



    And bizarre behavior or not, the odds are still pretty good Pimp is town. A bert lynch has less risk





    The exception is if Bert gives us a believable victory condition that that can be leveraged against the wolves.



    Hey my brother in arms, i have a theory on bert and which pokemon he is, i'm hoping this cryptic message makes you think along the same path as me and that your plan might actually be sound if it goes the way you are hoping it does. read this and think about what i have said and let me know if you one get owhat i'm saying or not

  • Originally posted by: wasg13

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers



    I mean, like bronty said we should probably kill him. Indy's are too risky.



    And bizarre behavior or not, the odds are still pretty good Pimp is town. A bert lynch has less risk





    The exception is if Bert gives us a believable victory condition that that can be leveraged against the wolves.



    Hey my brother in arms, i have a theory on bert and which pokemon he is, i'm hoping this cryptic message makes you think along the same path as me and that your plan might actually be sound if it goes the way you are hoping it does. read this and think about what i have said and let me know if you one get owhat i'm saying or not

  • One thing that has been asked multiple times by multiple people with no real answer from anyone... Who's been silent thus far? There are a lot of us, and some will be more active than others.



    One plan that was proposed a few times was to all of us lynch a quiet person. Has anyone been quiet enough to get THAT vote? A quiet person is, by the accounts I've read so far, either a wolf, or not a very helpful town. Would it make more sense to off one of them?
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