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  • https://imgur.com/gallery/a9jLh7i



    A defenseless kitten splits from his mother and wanders out into the road where this MONSTER just completely ignores him so that he could get his shot of a motorcycle or whatever. The mother, watching cautiously from the sidelines, can wait no longer, freaks out, and dashes from the curb to cross the road, but it is too late: Her kitten is not going to make it across with her.  



    So sad.



    All hope for humanity is lost!
  • Originally posted by: CZroe



    https://imgur.com/gallery/a9jLh7i...



    A defenseless kitten splits from his mother and wanders out into the road where this MONSTER just completely ignores him so that he could get his shot of a motorcycle or whatever. The mother, watching cautiously from the sidelines, can wait no longer, freaks out, and dashes from the curb to cross the road, but it is too late: Her kitten is not going to make it across with her.  



    So sad.



    All hope for humanity is lost!

    Haha, that was awesome  

    If that happened to me, I'd stop all work, take the cute lil kitten home, and call it a day...



     
  • Originally posted by: avatar!

     
    Originally posted by: CZroe



    https://imgur.com/gallery/a9jLh7i



    A defenseless kitten splits from his mother and wanders out into the road where this MONSTER just completely ignores him so that he could get his shot of a motorcycle or whatever. The mother, watching cautiously from the sidelines, can wait no longer, freaks out, and dashes from the curb to cross the road, but it is too late: Her kitten is not going to make it across with her.  



    So sad.



    All hope for humanity is lost!

    Haha, that was awesome  

    If that happened to me, I'd stop all work, take the cute lil kitten home, and call it a day...



     

    Sounds like a plan to me!  Every time I see cats or kittens, they just bring a smile to my face.  Like the one that is sitting on my lap right now, which I am petting with one hand.  He is always happy to see me, always waits by the door for my arrival, and always gets sad if I fill his food bowl sky-high (he knows then I will be out all day and late into the night).



    Yesterday I saw a cat, and it meowed at me.  I like cats.



     
  • https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2017/04/just-kill-me-horrifying-new-video-shows-united-passenger-drooling-blood/



    'Just Kill Me': Horrifying New Video Shows United Passenger Drooling Blood







    What the HELL is wrong with United and all the people responsible for this!! I hope United not only gets sued big-time, I hope their stocks tumble and the CEO is forced to resign, to apologize, and lots of restructuring is done because treating people like garbage is what the airlines are doing.
  • Ironically, that event caused their stock to go UP yesterday, because presumably the takeaway was that they have tons of bookings and are busy as hell.



    But yeah, I have a hard time believing that this event won't cause them and the Chicago airport police a few million each in a settlement.
  • Originally posted by: fcgamer

    Sounds like a plan to me!  Every time I see cats or kittens, they just bring a smile to my face.  

    You mean like this?  





     
  • I want the fat one that looks like a brillo pad.  
  • Ha! Gotta love how first world fast food incidents and a guy who got slightly inconvenienced and left with a bloody lip are better examples of 'how terrible people are' vs. oh, I don't know... Rakhmat Akilov taking a freaking semitruck and plowing through people in Stockholm the other day.



    Gaeton Graham is a freaking hero for running after the terrorist, IMO.



    Here's just a snippet from his testimony:



    'I ran after the lorry and saw it crash into people and lamp-posts. It was speeding. I ran the whole length down to the department store and I saw how it smashed into it.

    I screamed to people all the way while I was running after the lorry. At one point I saw a girl in lots of pieces. I saw bits of a torso, a head and a leg. I stood by her and saw her take her last breath.

    I've been taking counselling because I've been unable to sleep or eat after what I have seen.'



    While a cat would never take a lorry and run people down, a cat would also never do what heroes like Gaeton Graham and first responders do to save people's lives.
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel



    Ironically, that event caused their stock to go UP yesterday, because presumably the takeaway was that they have tons of bookings and are busy as hell.



    But yeah, I have a hard time believing that this event won't cause them and the Chicago airport police a few million each in a settlement.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/uniteds-real-mistake-173844672.html



    "Bad publicity following the incident has pushed the company’s stock price down a couple percentage points and shaved more than $500 million off the carrier’s market value."



    Serves them right!



     
  • Originally posted by: avatar!

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel



    Ironically, that event caused their stock to go UP yesterday, because presumably the takeaway was that they have tons of bookings and are busy as hell.



    But yeah, I have a hard time believing that this event won't cause them and the Chicago airport police a few million each in a settlement.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/uni...



    "Bad publicity following the incident has pushed the company’s stock price down a couple percentage points and shaved more than $500 million off the carrier’s market value."



    Serves them right!



     

    Good.



    It was extremely surprising to hear yesterday that the value went up, initially, on the news.



    (though on the flipside, it's entirely possible that United going up yesterday was more related to continued issues at Delta from last week's weather)



     
  • Originally posted by: cirellio



    Ha! Gotta love how first world fast food incidents and a guy who got slightly inconvenienced and left with a bloody lip are better examples of 'how terrible people are' vs. oh, I don't know... Rakhmat Akilov taking a freaking semitruck and plowing through people in Stockholm the other day.



    While a cat would never take a lorry and run people down, a cat would also never do what heroes like Gaeton Graham and first responders do to save people's lives.

    No one is claiming that such and such is worse than terrorists, Hitler, yadda yadda.

    Your argument is rather reductio ad absurdum. Just because we call out an airline for being malicious and cruel, does not mean it's on the same level as a terrorist incident. Also, your last statement reads like this:



    "If there weren't any wars, there wouldn't be any war heroes!"



    Err, I guess this is true, but you know what, I would still take no war heroes over wars. Or in other words, I still prefer cats that even if they don't chase down would-be-criminals, they also don't mow people down in a lorry, as you very rightfully noted!



     
  • Originally posted by: avatar!

     
    Originally posted by: cirellio



    Ha! Gotta love how first world fast food incidents and a guy who got slightly inconvenienced and left with a bloody lip are better examples of 'how terrible people are' vs. oh, I don't know... Rakhmat Akilov taking a freaking semitruck and plowing through people in Stockholm the other day.



    While a cat would never take a lorry and run people down, a cat would also never do what heroes like Gaeton Graham and first responders do to save people's lives.

    No one is claiming that such and such is worse than terrorists, Hitler, yadda yadda.

    Your argument is rather reductio ad absurdum. Just because we call out an airline for being malicious and cruel, does not mean it's on the same level as a terrorist incident. Also, your last statement reads like this:



    "If there weren't any wars, there wouldn't be any war heroes!"



    Err, I guess this is true, but you know what, I would still take no war heroes over wars. Or in other words, I still prefer cats that even if they don't chase down would-be-criminals, they also don't mow people down in a lorry, as you very rightfully noted!



     



    Am merely putting things into perspective--A terrorist paves a road with innocent people's blood ... and the US is far more concerned and talkative over a minor scuffle and airline policy? The world's gone topsy-turvy IMO. 

    Anyway. I also rightfully noted that a cat cannot go into the medical profession to learn how to stitch you back to health. They would simply ... play with the suture kit.  

     
  • Originally posted by: cirellio



    Am merely putting things into perspective--A terrorist paves a road with innocent people's blood ... and the US is far more concerned and talkative over a minor scuffle and airline policy? The world's gone topsy-turvy IMO.

    35,000 people die each year in car accidents, 21,000 suicides by gun per year. No one up in arms over that? See what happens when you try to "put things in perspective"?



     
  • Originally posted by: cirellio

    Am merely putting things into perspective--A terrorist paves a road with innocent people's blood ... and the US is far more concerned and talkative over a minor scuffle and airline policy? The world's gone topsy-turvy IMO. 

    Anyway. I also rightfully noted that a cat cannot go into the medical profession to learn how to stitch you back to health. They would simply ... play with the suture kit.  

     



    Here's a perspective:



    2015 Terrorism Deaths (worldwide): 28,328



    2015 Diahrea Deaths (worldwide): 1,400,000



    As far as the US is concerned...



    2009* Terrorism Deaths: 18



    2010** Constipation Deaths: 132



    *Tied for Highest Count since 9/11

    **Couldn't find 2009 stats from the CDC.
  • Taco Bell is the new Hitler.  
  • Originally posted by: Tulpa

     
    Originally posted by: cirellio



    Am merely putting things into perspective--A terrorist paves a road with innocent people's blood ... and the US is far more concerned and talkative over a minor scuffle and airline policy? The world's gone topsy-turvy IMO.

    35,000 people die each year in car accidents, 21,000 suicides by gun per year. No one up in arms over that? See what happens when you try to "put things in perspective"?

     



    You gonna cross your arms in satisfaction? No? I was thinking of mentioning something about this, but didn't (because I didn't think I'd get attacked over it to try and belittle my point).



    The difference between my example and yours is you are talking about the world's unavoidable deaths and accidents. I am talking about deaths caused by choice, by humans. 



    You want to talk to ME about perspective? I pay close attention to the big picture of the world every single day while most sheeple just sit there worrying about the TMZ. Look, I know very well approximately 21,000 children die every day. A child dies every 4 seconds every single day. Just got reminded of the statistic of how many children die of starvation alone yesterday. I also hear about how many children go missing in the US alone every year. It's chilling how dark and unhospitable this world can be.



    Despite the staggering deathtoll, this information is almost never covered in headline news. Why? Because it's a constant. It's a truth, a statistic that we are always working towards improving. For instance ... through advances in healthcare. As a matter of fact, we might save a few more lives if we focus more energy on terrorism and less on getting outraged over a flight scuffle. 



     
  • 2014 Terrorism Deaths (Worldwide): 28,328

    2014 Intentional Homicides (Hondouras/Venezula)*: 30,916



    *Two highest rates of Intentional Homicide per capita (100,000) in the world in 2014.
  • What resources are currently devoted to the flight scuffle that would otherwise be devoted to fighting terrorism?



    I understand what you're saying - I get it completely. But we can take that argument back and forth all day and get nowhere. For example, why should any of us be talking about anything on here when we could be putting that time and effort toward volunteering at a food bank? People choose to put their time and thoughts into the things they want - and just because something is viral online or being talked about on social media or the news, doesn't mean it is any real and significant diversion from other issues. This United 'news' will go away quickly, just like many other thousands of things that occur across the country, and people will move on.



    Also, I think we all need to come to terms with the idea that different people have different passions and issues they care about. We should stop judging everyone else so harshly for what they are passionate about, care about, or simply just WANT to talk about. Not everyone wants to talk about terrorism and death on a video game forum. Sometimes they want to hop on here and have some discussion about a very unusual and strange incident that occurred on an airplane.  It doesn't mean that any of them care less about people, or care less about terrorism.  Not everything is mutually exclusive.
  • Originally posted by: cirellio



    The difference between my example and yours is you are talking about the world's unavoidable deaths and accidents. I am talking about deaths caused by choice, by humans.

    You think those are unavoidable? That's the problem. Try to reform stuff like gun suicides and people dismiss it as unavoidable. "People are going to kill themselves another way if they don't have guns." Actually, no, they don't. It's been found that if you reduce a method of suicide, the suicide rate drops and stays dropped. That happened with gas stoves being converted from coal gas to natural gas, and numerous other examples. But no one wants to do anything about gun suicides because the gun debate is so politicized.



    Meanwhile, terrorism, while killing much fewer people, is seen as an insult to national pride, so we drop trillions of dollars on it, ultimately hurting ourselves more than the terrorists ever could. That's a hell of a return on the terrorists' investment.



    The whole airline thing is news because it was coming to a head for awhile. Passengers on airliners are treated like chattle, but it gets singled out as "shut up and sit down and stop whining."
  • Originally posted by: SnowSauce



    2014 Terrorism Deaths (Worldwide): 28,328

    2014 Intentional Homicides (Hondouras/Venezula)*: 30,916



    *Two highest rates of Intentional Homicide per capita (100,000) in the world in 2014.



    http://heyjackass.com/



    You don't need to look any further than Chicago to see some ugly murder stats.

     
  • Originally posted by: Tulpa

     
    Originally posted by: cirellio



    The difference between my example and yours is you are talking about the world's unavoidable deaths and accidents. I am talking about deaths caused by choice, by humans.

    You think those are unavoidable? That's the problem. Try to reform stuff like gun suicides and people dismiss it as unavoidable. "People are going to kill themselves another way if they don't have guns." Actually, no, they don't. It's been found that if you reduce a method of suicide, the suicide rate drops and stays dropped. That happened with gas stoves being converted from coal gas to natural gas, and numerous other examples. But no one wants to do anything about gun suicides because the gun debate is so politicized.



    Meanwhile, terrorism, while killing much fewer people, is seen as an insult to national pride, so we drop trillions of dollars on it, ultimately hurting ourselves more than the terrorists ever could. That's a hell of a return on the terrorists' investment.



    The whole airline thing is news because it was coming to a head for awhile. Passengers on airliners are treated like chattle, but it gets singled out as "shut up and sit down and stop whining."



    We're getting way off-topic here. But you're taking the world deathtoll gun statistic and trying to apply it to national gun policy. People walking around in the Middle East with automatic rifles does not equal gun legislation reform.



    Most polling data showed that a plurality of Americans support sensible "common sense" gun control. During the election season, the term "common sense" got defined for the first time by the Left ... and it was terrifying. The Presidential candidate promised to eliminate the individual right to keep and bear arms by reversing the very Supreme Court case (Heller v DC) that affirmed Americans had the right to own a gun. The nominated candidate promised to ban entire categories of weapons based not on their lethality, but based on what they look like. 



    /slowclap

     
  • Originally posted by: cirellio

    We're getting way off-topic here. But you're taking the world deathtoll gun statistic and trying to apply it to national gun policy. People walking around in the Middle East with automatic rifles does not equal gun legislation reform.

    No, I was sticking with purely American statistics. And this is a perfect example. So politicized we can't even begin to address it. And another 21,000 will die next year. Am I saying we can solve all of it? No, but we can't even have the conversation, and that's the problem. (Not even talking you and me, as we're certainly not going to solve it even if we agreed. I mean people in general.)



    It's hard to say if we can devote any more energy to stopping terrorism than we already have. We got Osama Bin Ladin, we fought wars, we have our airports in lockdown. Like I said, trillions spent by all administrations.
  • Originally posted by: Tulpa

     
    Originally posted by: cirellio

    We're getting way off-topic here. But you're taking the world deathtoll gun statistic and trying to apply it to national gun policy. People walking around in the Middle East with automatic rifles does not equal gun legislation reform.

    No, I was sticking with purely American statistics. And this is a perfect example. So politicized we can't even begin to address it. And another 21,000 will die next year. Am I saying we can solve all of it? No, but we can't even have the conversation, and that's the problem.



    It's hard to say if we can devote any more energy to stopping terrorism than we already have. We got Osama Bin Ladin, we fought wars, we have our airports in lockdown. Like I said, trillions spent by all administrations.



    We CAN have the conversation, but it deserves its own topic.

     
  • What's the solution then? Drop everything and run 24/7 news coverage on terrorism? How's that going to fight the problem?



    The media doesn't exist to tell us what we already know, it exists to inform us on what we don't know. We've already reached a maximum level of "terrorism awareness" in the US and there's nothing that the common citizen can do about it anyway.
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: SnowSauce



    2014 Terrorism Deaths (Worldwide): 28,328

    2014 Intentional Homicides (Hondouras/Venezula)*: 30,916



    *Two highest rates of Intentional Homicide per capita (100,000) in the world in 2014.



    http://heyjackass.com/...



    You don't need to look any further than Chicago to see some ugly murder stats.

     



    Yeah, it's nasty down there. They had more murders than NYC/LA combined last year.

     
  • Originally posted by: SnowSauce

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: SnowSauce



    2014 Terrorism Deaths (Worldwide): 28,328

    2014 Intentional Homicides (Hondouras/Venezula)*: 30,916



    *Two highest rates of Intentional Homicide per capita (100,000) in the world in 2014.



    http://heyjackass.com/



    You don't need to look any further than Chicago to see some ugly murder stats.

     



    Yeah, it's nasty down there. They had more murders than NYC/LA combined last year.

     



    Sanctuary cities. 

     
    Originally posted by: SnowSauce



    What's the solution then? Drop everything and run 24/7 news coverage on terrorism? How's that going to fight the problem?



    The media doesn't exist to tell us what we already know, it exists to inform us on what we don't know. We've already reached a maximum level of "terrorism awareness" in the US and there's nothing that the common citizen can do about it anyway.



    I think it's fine to discuss these kinds of things, but I just think it's sad to see people to get so livid and outraged over something so minor when something so major just happened. Maybe the OP is right and people aren't so great after all.
  • I don't have time to run all of the stats, but I know for years like 2005 and 2007, there have been more victims in single non-terrorist shooting incidents than terrorist victims on US soil.
  • Originally posted by: cirellio

     
    Originally posted by: SnowSauce

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: SnowSauce



    2014 Terrorism Deaths (Worldwide): 28,328

    2014 Intentional Homicides (Hondouras/Venezula)*: 30,916



    *Two highest rates of Intentional Homicide per capita (100,000) in the world in 2014.



    http://heyjackass.com/



    You don't need to look any further than Chicago to see some ugly murder stats.

     



    Yeah, it's nasty down there. They had more murders than NYC/LA combined last year.

     



    Sanctuary cities. 



     



    Based on who is being killed and doing the killing (and how long this problem has existed in Chicago), "sanctuary city" status almost certainly has nothing to do with the problem.

     
  • Yeah, Chicago has had a murder problem for decades now.



    Meanwhile, New York City's has been staying low for awhile. It was sky high in the 70s-90s, long before anything contemporary would exert any influence.
  • Originally posted by: SnowSauce



    I don't have time to run all of the stats, but I know for years like 2005 and 2007, there have been more victims in single non-terrorist shooting incidents than terrorist victims on US soil.



    Do keep in mind there are terrorist or terrorist related crimes in the US that are not labeled as such quite often. 

    Obama even stated 'no terrorist attacks have happened on US soil in the past 8 years'. 



    But there was Ohio State U, the mall stabbing in Minnesota, San Bernardino, Colorado Theater, Little Rock Arkansas, Ft Hood, bombings in NYC & NJ. There was the Miami and Orlando nightclub shootings. There was the Boston Marathon bombing. Those are just the bigger ones. There have been so many more, but people's memory spans seem short. 



    You can usually tell when a radical Islamic terrorist or Illegal Immigrant is to blame when they refer to the shooter as "Shooter" or "Male" and then bleach white the skin color of the perp in the photos. Happens a hell of a lot.



    It's all about relabeling to play with statistics to sway public opinion. 
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