I find the comments about people "wrecking the hobby" interesting. There is no one singular definition of what this hobby is and what it means.
Some people like to play video games.
Some people like to collect video games.
Some people like both.
Some people like neither and just want to talk about games on youtube.
And on, and on, and on.
Loosely, we are all talking about video games. Different people get different levels of enjoyment out of them. And all of the above types of people (and many more) are all enjoying or participating in different aspects of this hobby. No one of them is better than any other or the 'right' way to engage in the hobby.
At the end of the day, and I have said this before in comments past, all of these things are simply toys and games that we don't need to survive - WANTS of ours at various different levels. We can't always have everything we want. It is a free, very loosely regulated market that all of us have virtually the same opportunity to access and participate in.
I want a nice CIB copy of Jack Bros for Virtual Boy (I'm an Atlus collector). This item is several hundred dollars and has been for a long time. I don't need it, I want it. I have the option of saving up tons of money and buying it, at an opportunity cost of many other things. I am choosing not to. Sure I wish it was cheaper and I could get it for $50. But it isn't.
Maybe for some people it is choosing between paying the bills and having the game they want. For others money isn't as tight. Either way they have a choice.
I'm fine with a little bit of venting every now and then and wishing things would be cheaper. I think it's ok and reasonable to expect that people in this hobby will vent a little bit every now and then and want games to be cheaper or easier to acquire. But when people start blaming other segments in the hobby, calling others collectards (I hate this word), and ridiculing other people's choices with collecting and insinuating they are causing a bunch of problems, etc., that's when I think people go too far and just need to relax.
My biggest issue with these kinds of threads is the fact there are too many of them. Almost every single time I log in and new thread pops up about "game bubble burst" "darn dirty resellers" or "why does this cost so much? I can't have it waaaaah". If something costs too much I won't buy it or complain about it, simple. I'm so backlogged with games at the moment. And to have someone whining about not getting a deal on Smash really irks me the wrong way. I put in the effort to go look, and make connections and not buy something the very second I see it. No shit isn't going to be handed to you on a silver platter, go find it yourself.
It is annoying, for sure. A lot of folks have a sense of entitlement, and many new collectors I find care a ton about showing off and bragging. Folks need to learn that cant have everything they want and have to work on finding away to get what they do want. Simple as that. DEAL WIT IT!
Perfecto! I think it's entitlement. People know at one point these games were cheap, they missed out, but feel like they are entitled to still buy cheap. The thing that makes it worse is it's a free market, no MSRP... although some think otherwise.
One of the funniest things I've seen in this hobby is someone posted a Mario 64 cart for $40 on a local buy and sell and I shit you not, there was a 80-100 comment string debating the price of the game. These were the kind of things that completely turned me off from collecting older systems. It's ridiculous.
Pimp is also bang on about adjusting. I started to hate the NES-64 collecting even though they are some of my favourite consoles... I just moved on and started collecting Wii and Wii U. Worked out great. It was so refreshing to go about collecting Wii U from retail, kijiji, eBay, and no one gave a shit about those games... at all.
I'm relatively new to the video game collecting community, but I've been a collector for decades (tabletop games, board games, miniatures, dice, fantasy coins, books). People complaining isn't unique to this collecting community, and as far as I've seen not any more prevalent here than in any other community. Simple fact of life: some people whine about anything that doesn't go their way. Second fact: those people usually make more noise than those of us just enjoying doing our own thing.
I'm relatively new to the video game collecting community, but I've been a collector for decades (tabletop games, board games, miniatures, dice, fantasy coins, books). People complaining isn't unique to this collecting community, and as far as I've seen not any more prevalent here than in any other community. Simple fact of life: some people whine about anything that doesn't go their way. Second fact: those people usually make more noise than those of us just enjoying doing our own thing.
What games are you into? Also sorry for the earwurm infection yesterday.
I just moved on and started collecting Wii and Wii U. Worked out great. It was so refreshing to go about collecting Wii U from retail, kijiji, eBay, and no one gave a shit about those games... at all.
not quite the same, But I got pretty into Atari a while ago, and that's been going great. Picking up stacks of games at a few bucks a piece. It's all about adjusting and finding what you can enjoy and afford. I have plenty of expensive boxed Nintendo games as well, I enjoy them, but I can't
I'm relatively new to the video game collecting community, but I've been a collector for decades (tabletop games, board games, miniatures, dice, fantasy coins, books). People complaining isn't unique to this collecting community, and as far as I've seen not any more prevalent here than in any other community. Simple fact of life: some people whine about anything that doesn't go their way. Second fact: those people usually make more noise than those of us just enjoying doing our own thing.
What games are you into? Also sorry for the earwurm infection yesterday.
Gah! Now you reminded me, and it's stuck in my head again!
Which kind of games? On the tabletop front I'm into Dungeons & Dragons (any edition, I've been playing for 25+ years), Pathfinder, and really any other tabletop RPG I can get folks together to play (looking forward to Starfinder this summer). Board games: Anything with a fantasty or sci-fi theme (Warhammer, Firefly, Talisman, etc.) and the same with CCG's -- oddly enough never got into Pokemon, but I'm a Magic: The Gathering fan, and play a few other older ones like Spellfire and Rage. Started playing a few dice placement games here recently, which is a new spin on an old concept. I played quite a bit of Dragon Dice back in the day.
Video Games: Really anything RPG related, especially retro or neo-retro JRPG style. I hopped over here on NA while working on building a collection/display for the NES game Solstice, but apparently I've decided to pick up collecting old NES/SNES rpg's as well -- not that I needed *another* thing to collect. My office/ game room/library are weeping at the thought of adding yet more shelves.
Lot's of people are cheesed for really no reason. I guess the only real reason for their whininess is ignorance. Ignorance and stupidity?
As discussed ad nauseam... there's so many ways to play the games (*coughs* emulators), that there's really a gap in logic in complaining about the prices.
If you don't like the prices, get an emulator or everdrive. Simple.
Complaining about the prices gets you nowhere and simply points out your ignorance in the hobby.
I'm cool with rising prices. Would I want to buy games at prices from 10 years ago?? Of course!! But I'm not dumb enough to complain about it because I understand supply, demand, and economics. It's quite simple really.
People who are mad/complaining are just ignorant.
Yeah, I know you're right. Yesterday's six threads or so on the topic was just too much I guess I should just be ignoring them but yesterday it was most of collector's corner!
How about some locks, mods?
COME BACK AND LOCK 'EM YERSELF!!!!!!!
I haven't been on much in the last few days due to CORGS prep. Figure have everybody get it out of their system now and get it overwith.
And to answer your original question, no idea. I wouldn't say all video game collectors are this way, or even the majority of them, especially if you look at the mockery that has followed in those threads.
I never really complained that prices are too high, (that I don't really care about,) but rather complain that I just don't make enough to afford them. lol
But even then, I just shrug it off after the fact and say "oh well, that's life" and just save up for 2-3 years to get stuff.
I'm relatively new to the video game collecting community, but I've been a collector for decades (tabletop games, board games, miniatures, dice, fantasy coins, books). People complaining isn't unique to this collecting community, and as far as I've seen not any more prevalent here than in any other community. Simple fact of life: some people whine about anything that doesn't go their way. Second fact: those people usually make more noise than those of us just enjoying doing our own thing.
What games are you into? Also sorry for the earwurm infection yesterday.
Gah! Now you reminded me, and it's stuck in my head again!
Which kind of games? On the tabletop front I'm into Dungeons & Dragons (any edition, I've been playing for 25+ years), Pathfinder, and really any other tabletop RPG I can get folks together to play (looking forward to Starfinder this summer). Board games: Anything with a fantasty or sci-fi theme (Warhammer, Firefly, Talisman, etc.) and the same with CCG's -- oddly enough never got into Pokemon, but I'm a Magic: The Gathering fan, and play a few other older ones like Spellfire and Rage. Started playing a few dice placement games here recently, which is a new spin on an old concept. I played quite a bit of Dragon Dice back in the day.
Video Games: Really anything RPG related, especially retro or neo-retro JRPG style. I hopped over here on NA while working on building a collection/display for the NES game Solstice, but apparently I've decided to pick up collecting old NES/SNES rpg's as well -- not that I needed *another* thing to collect. My office/ game room/library are weeping at the thought of adding yet more shelves.
I haven't played much D&D, just a few games locally with some friends a couple years ago. But I grew up with pen and paper RPGs in my family: Call of Cthulhu, Shadowrun, RuneQuest, and stuff like that. I was never big on Warhammer (battles take waaay too long for me) but my dad, brother, and husband are pretty big into it. Especially my dad, he collects pretty much everything GamesWorkshop. I've also played a lot of magic.
I saw your Solstice post (one of my favorite games as a kid) I showed the thread to a friend of mine who had made an extensive history of/review video last year. If you ever want to talk games, or need some suggestions for good 8/16 bit RPGs to try out feel free to send me a message. There's not much I haven't played.
Because most collectors get into collecting because the prices are so low, you could get 10 nostalgic games for the price of a new one...then once your hooked,the price spikes get to you in a big way.
I'm relatively new to the video game collecting community, but I've been a collector for decades (tabletop games, board games, miniatures, dice, fantasy coins, books). People complaining isn't unique to this collecting community, and as far as I've seen not any more prevalent here than in any other community. Simple fact of life: some people whine about anything that doesn't go their way. Second fact: those people usually make more noise than those of us just enjoying doing our own thing.
What games are you into? Also sorry for the earwurm infection yesterday.
Gah! Now you reminded me, and it's stuck in my head again!
Which kind of games? On the tabletop front I'm into Dungeons & Dragons (any edition, I've been playing for 25+ years), Pathfinder, and really any other tabletop RPG I can get folks together to play (looking forward to Starfinder this summer). Board games: Anything with a fantasty or sci-fi theme (Warhammer, Firefly, Talisman, etc.) and the same with CCG's -- oddly enough never got into Pokemon, but I'm a Magic: The Gathering fan, and play a few other older ones like Spellfire and Rage. Started playing a few dice placement games here recently, which is a new spin on an old concept. I played quite a bit of Dragon Dice back in the day.
Video Games: Really anything RPG related, especially retro or neo-retro JRPG style. I hopped over here on NA while working on building a collection/display for the NES game Solstice, but apparently I've decided to pick up collecting old NES/SNES rpg's as well -- not that I needed *another* thing to collect. My office/ game room/library are weeping at the thought of adding yet more shelves.
Have you guys even been to a convention in the past few years and seen the types of "collectors" attracted by shows like Game Chasers and Pat the NES Punk? Overweight, unshaven, socially retarded man children with misogynistic and entitled attitudes, most still living with their parents or working in the service industry. While nerds were regarded as being booksmart and tech savvy, these guys are basically the borderline illiterate, special ed class guys that were happy to get involved in a hobby requiring no physical activity, a sense of accomplishment through hoarding physical objects, and a low barrier to entry with regards to skill or intelligence.
Video game collecting is a relatively new hobby compared to things like sports cards, stamps, and comic books. As a result the hobby is still maturing and eventually the kiddies will be priced out, shopped out, and locked out. Best they enjoy what they have rather than have not.
Have you guys even been to a convention in the past few years and seen the types of "collectors" attracted by shows like Game Chasers and Pat the NES Punk? Overweight, unshaven, socially retarded man children with misogynistic and entitled attitudes, most still living with their parents or working in the service industry. While nerds were regarded as being booksmart and tech savvy, these guys are basically the borderline illiterate, special ed class guys that were happy to get involved in a hobby requiring no physical activity, a sense of accomplishment through hoarding physical objects, and a low barrier to entry with regards to skill or intelligence.
I liked Pat, but over time I've notice that he isn't a big fan of Nintendo Age is he?.. kind of stand offish too.
"Gotta have everything or complain about it non stop"
in all honesty its just because in general video game collectors are mostly younger and with that comes alot of immaturity of how the world works and being unrealistic
"Gotta have everything or complain about it non stop"
in all honesty its just because in general video game collectors are mostly younger and with that comes alot of immaturity of how the world works and being unrealistic
Is it though? I would argue that this hobby is predominantly 30-40 year olds. And really, when people complain about prices, it's mostly for obscure shit that hardly any 18-24 year old even knows about or cares about. From what I've seen, the younger crowd wants their marios and other high demand games, and I've almost never heard any of them bitch about buying Mario Kart 64 for $50.
Unless you personally see a wave of younger people buying $100+ titles, I'm going to have to say your assumption is off base. It's people who have "been collecting forever" that seem to bitch the most. And of course, it's all a vocal minority anyway.
"Gotta have everything or complain about it non stop"
in all honesty its just because in general video game collectors are mostly younger and with that comes alot of immaturity of how the world works and being unrealistic
Is it though? I wouldn't argue that this hobby is predominantly 30-40 year olds. And really, when people complain about prices, it's mostly for obscure shit that hardly any 18-24 year old even knows about or cares about. From what I've seen, the younger crowd wants their marios and other high demand games, and I've almost never heard any of them bitch about buying Mario Kart 64 for $50.
Unless you personally see a wave of younger people buying $100+ titles, I'm going to have to say your assumption is off base. It's people who have "been collecting forever" that seem to bitch the most. And of course, it's all a vocal minority anyway.
"Gotta have everything or complain about it non stop"
in all honesty its just because in general video game collectors are mostly younger and with that comes alot of immaturity of how the world works and being unrealistic
Is it though? I wouldn't argue that this hobby is predominantly 30-40 year olds. And really, when people complain about prices, it's mostly for obscure shit that hardly any 18-24 year old even knows about or cares about. From what I've seen, the younger crowd wants their marios and other high demand games, and I've almost never heard any of them bitch about buying Mario Kart 64 for $50.
Unless you personally see a wave of younger people buying $100+ titles, I'm going to have to say your assumption is off base. It's people who have "been collecting forever" that seem to bitch the most. And of course, it's all a vocal minority anyway.
I'm 24...
Old man. I'm 23. Also, I don't believe either of us run around complaining about prices? We are besides the point though, I'm generalizing.
its not like anybody with a job cant afford any nes game. i can see crying about se.
its because mother fuckee i used to own that game back when i was 10 years old and i sure as hell didnt pay $100+ for it. now i want it again and fuck paying that price. and because i had it before i should get it for the price i feel comfortable paying before some dank collector.
plus im sitting in this stuffed dirty diaper for hours and somebody needs to change it for me damn it!
I find the comments about people "wrecking the hobby" interesting. There is no one singular definition of what this hobby is and what it means.
Some people like to play video games.
Some people like to collect video games.
Some people like both.
Some people like neither and just want to talk about games on youtube.
And on, and on, and on.
Loosely, we are all talking about video games. Different people get different levels of enjoyment out of them. And all of the above types of people (and many more) are all enjoying or participating in different aspects of this hobby. No one of them is better than any other or the 'right' way to engage in the hobby.
At the end of the day, and I have said this before in comments past, all of these things are simply toys and games that we don't need to survive - WANTS of ours at various different levels. We can't always have everything we want. It is a free, very loosely regulated market that all of us have virtually the same opportunity to access and participate in.
I want a nice CIB copy of Jack Bros for Virtual Boy (I'm an Atlus collector). This item is several hundred dollars and has been for a long time. I don't need it, I want it. I have the option of saving up tons of money and buying it, at an opportunity cost of many other things. I am choosing not to. Sure I wish it was cheaper and I could get it for $50. But it isn't.
Maybe for some people it is choosing between paying the bills and having the game they want. For others money isn't as tight. Either way they have a choice.
I'm fine with a little bit of venting every now and then and wishing things would be cheaper. I think it's ok and reasonable to expect that people in this hobby will vent a little bit every now and then and want games to be cheaper or easier to acquire. But when people start blaming other segments in the hobby, calling others collectards (I hate this word), and ridiculing other people's choices with collecting and insinuating they are causing a bunch of problems, etc., that's when I think people go too far and just need to relax.
Thank you for having the best most thoughtful post in here, and frankly one of the best on this forum ever. Pretty much sums it up 100%.
Have you guys even been to a convention in the past few years and seen the types of "collectors" attracted by shows like Game Chasers and Pat the NES Punk?
Yes. As a seller, I can spot those types from a mile away.
They're not all bad though, one of the "Lame Chaser" guys (apparently they don't care for the Game Chasers?) helped save my merchandise from dripping overhead water at MGC a couple years ago.
Prices are high, ain't it the truth. Kind of shocking at first, and I was definitely a little bitch about it, not gonna lie. But I got used to it, just had to prioritize things a little differently.
For reference, I'm in my early 30's. Biggest mistake was selling my 300+ cart collection a little over a decade ago, thinking that if I ever wanted to piece it back together that it would be easy to rebuild. Thats pretty much why I was a little bitter when I decided to get back into it a few years ago. Totally underestimated what the demand would become.
You'll get a laugh out of this, I actually thought I could still get used nes and snes games at gamestop circa 2013-14. I was under the impression that gamestop was just funcoland with a new name. I was wayyyyyy off. I drove to the local gamestop, the whole way thinking to myself "HOLY SHIT I CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY SOME MARIO 3 AND MARIO WORLD, I'M SO FUCKIN AMPPPPPPED, YEAH!!!" When I got there I went straight to the counter and asked, but the kid at the register gave me the head shake of disappointment coupled with a "seriously dude?". So I hung my head and took a walk of shame back out to my car, checked ebay, and the sound of my jaw hitting the floor almost scared me enough to simultaneously shit my pants. I was soooooo mad. I felt like I had won the lottery, but then someone had burnt the ticket to ashes right in front of my face.
But anyway, I got over it and my collection is almost back to where it was before. If anything, I think it's cool that people of all ages and backgrounds are having fun with what was and is such a huge part of my life. Ask anyone my age, any birthday, any Xmas or chanukah, any sleepover, any hangout with friends, any good report card etc. It was all about Nintendo. Which turned into genesis, snes, n64, ps1, etc. But Nintendo really started it all. And I'm really glad I got to experience it all firsthand at the age that I was, it's a whole lot more to me than just video games. And although I was always proud and never ashamed of my Nintendo habit, I feel like it's more legitimized these days.
I'm just glad these things I hold so dear to me are now, for the most part, being taken care of and appreciated instead of baking in the sun at flea markets or rotting away in dank basements.
I think it's because most of this stuff was reasonable priced fairly recently. Lots of us sat by and watched as prices moved from high to insanely high.
Missing the bus sucks. But it sucks even worse when you're already at the bus stop and you actually have to watch it pull away.
I'm just glad these things I hold so dear to me are now, for the most part, being taken care of and appreciated instead of baking in the sun at flea markets or rotting away in dank basements.
"Gotta have everything or complain about it non stop"
in all honesty its just because in general video game collectors are mostly younger and with that comes alot of immaturity of how the world works and being unrealistic
Is it though? I would argue that this hobby is predominantly 30-40 year olds. And really, when people complain about prices, it's mostly for obscure shit that hardly any 18-24 year old even knows about or cares about. From what I've seen, the younger crowd wants their marios and other high demand games, and I've almost never heard any of them bitch about buying Mario Kart 64 for $50.
Unless you personally see a wave of younger people buying $100+ titles, I'm going to have to say your assumption is off base. It's people who have "been collecting forever" that seem to bitch the most. And of course, it's all a vocal minority anyway.
The last NA poll had the most at 29 and 30 i believe. There are more 20 somethings on this site than 30 somethings i think.
Many other hobbies, or at least, segments of hobbies go through dramatic price spikes at times as well. What's with the man-children in this hobby that can't accept the fact that sometimes certain items get out of reach, and that you are not entitled to be able to afford something?
Discuss. I really don't know what it is about this group. I suspect that its because it skews young and includes some collectors that don't see themselves as such (?) but man, if this place was a physical space I'd pick it up and move it next to a Kleenex factory and a Massengill plant.
There's no possibility of having a decent discussion when you start your thread off by calling people "whiny" and "man children."
I agree that's the perception, but that's such a pile of horseshit ultimately Nathan.
First people DO read rare comics, some people enjoy that. If I bought an action 1 tomorrow by some stroke of luck, I'd read it immediately.
I have to call "bullshit" on that one
Unless you are talking about some ass-condition copy.
A deteriorated copy is more likely to sustain further damage from handling than one in decent shape. I'd rather read a Fine or Very Good copy than one in Poor condition with pages that will crumble more no matter how careful you are.
Mint might be another story, but that segment isn't my interest to begin with.
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Some people like to play video games.
Some people like to collect video games.
Some people like both.
Some people like neither and just want to talk about games on youtube.
And on, and on, and on.
Loosely, we are all talking about video games. Different people get different levels of enjoyment out of them. And all of the above types of people (and many more) are all enjoying or participating in different aspects of this hobby. No one of them is better than any other or the 'right' way to engage in the hobby.
At the end of the day, and I have said this before in comments past, all of these things are simply toys and games that we don't need to survive - WANTS of ours at various different levels. We can't always have everything we want. It is a free, very loosely regulated market that all of us have virtually the same opportunity to access and participate in.
I want a nice CIB copy of Jack Bros for Virtual Boy (I'm an Atlus collector). This item is several hundred dollars and has been for a long time. I don't need it, I want it. I have the option of saving up tons of money and buying it, at an opportunity cost of many other things. I am choosing not to. Sure I wish it was cheaper and I could get it for $50. But it isn't.
Maybe for some people it is choosing between paying the bills and having the game they want. For others money isn't as tight. Either way they have a choice.
I'm fine with a little bit of venting every now and then and wishing things would be cheaper. I think it's ok and reasonable to expect that people in this hobby will vent a little bit every now and then and want games to be cheaper or easier to acquire. But when people start blaming other segments in the hobby, calling others collectards (I hate this word), and ridiculing other people's choices with collecting and insinuating they are causing a bunch of problems, etc., that's when I think people go too far and just need to relax.
Originally posted by: ne$_pimp
It is annoying, for sure. A lot of folks have a sense of entitlement, and many new collectors I find care a ton about showing off and bragging. Folks need to learn that cant have everything they want and have to work on finding away to get what they do want. Simple as that. DEAL WIT IT!
Perfecto! I think it's entitlement. People know at one point these games were cheap, they missed out, but feel like they are entitled to still buy cheap. The thing that makes it worse is it's a free market, no MSRP... although some think otherwise.
One of the funniest things I've seen in this hobby is someone posted a Mario 64 cart for $40 on a local buy and sell and I shit you not, there was a 80-100 comment string debating the price of the game. These were the kind of things that completely turned me off from collecting older systems. It's ridiculous.
Pimp is also bang on about adjusting. I started to hate the NES-64 collecting even though they are some of my favourite consoles... I just moved on and started collecting Wii and Wii U. Worked out great. It was so refreshing to go about collecting Wii U from retail, kijiji, eBay, and no one gave a shit about those games... at all.
I'm relatively new to the video game collecting community, but I've been a collector for decades (tabletop games, board games, miniatures, dice, fantasy coins, books). People complaining isn't unique to this collecting community, and as far as I've seen not any more prevalent here than in any other community. Simple fact of life: some people whine about anything that doesn't go their way. Second fact: those people usually make more noise than those of us just enjoying doing our own thing.
What games are you into? Also sorry for the earwurm infection yesterday.
I just moved on and started collecting Wii and Wii U. Worked out great. It was so refreshing to go about collecting Wii U from retail, kijiji, eBay, and no one gave a shit about those games... at all.
not quite the same, But I got pretty into Atari a while ago, and that's been going great. Picking up stacks of games at a few bucks a piece. It's all about adjusting and finding what you can enjoy and afford. I have plenty of expensive boxed Nintendo games as well, I enjoy them, but I can't
I'm relatively new to the video game collecting community, but I've been a collector for decades (tabletop games, board games, miniatures, dice, fantasy coins, books). People complaining isn't unique to this collecting community, and as far as I've seen not any more prevalent here than in any other community. Simple fact of life: some people whine about anything that doesn't go their way. Second fact: those people usually make more noise than those of us just enjoying doing our own thing.
What games are you into? Also sorry for the earwurm infection yesterday.
Gah! Now you reminded me, and it's stuck in my head again!
Which kind of games? On the tabletop front I'm into Dungeons & Dragons (any edition, I've been playing for 25+ years), Pathfinder, and really any other tabletop RPG I can get folks together to play (looking forward to Starfinder this summer). Board games: Anything with a fantasty or sci-fi theme (Warhammer, Firefly, Talisman, etc.) and the same with CCG's -- oddly enough never got into Pokemon, but I'm a Magic: The Gathering fan, and play a few other older ones like Spellfire and Rage. Started playing a few dice placement games here recently, which is a new spin on an old concept. I played quite a bit of Dragon Dice back in the day.
Video Games: Really anything RPG related, especially retro or neo-retro JRPG style. I hopped over here on NA while working on building a collection/display for the NES game Solstice, but apparently I've decided to pick up collecting old NES/SNES rpg's as well -- not that I needed *another* thing to collect. My office/ game room/library are weeping at the thought of adding yet more shelves.
Good question.
Lot's of people are cheesed for really no reason. I guess the only real reason for their whininess is ignorance. Ignorance and stupidity?
As discussed ad nauseam... there's so many ways to play the games (*coughs* emulators), that there's really a gap in logic in complaining about the prices.
If you don't like the prices, get an emulator or everdrive. Simple.
Complaining about the prices gets you nowhere and simply points out your ignorance in the hobby.
I created this thread almost 2 years ago:
http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&thr...
I'm cool with rising prices. Would I want to buy games at prices from 10 years ago?? Of course!! But I'm not dumb enough to complain about it because I understand supply, demand, and economics. It's quite simple really.
People who are mad/complaining are just ignorant.
Yeah, I know you're right. Yesterday's six threads or so on the topic was just too much I guess I should just be ignoring them but yesterday it was most of collector's corner!
How about some locks, mods?
COME BACK AND LOCK 'EM YERSELF!!!!!!!
I haven't been on much in the last few days due to CORGS prep. Figure have everybody get it out of their system now and get it overwith.
And to answer your original question, no idea. I wouldn't say all video game collectors are this way, or even the majority of them, especially if you look at the mockery that has followed in those threads.
I never really complained that prices are too high, (that I don't really care about,) but rather complain that I just don't make enough to afford them. lol
But even then, I just shrug it off after the fact and say "oh well, that's life" and just save up for 2-3 years to get stuff.
I'm relatively new to the video game collecting community, but I've been a collector for decades (tabletop games, board games, miniatures, dice, fantasy coins, books). People complaining isn't unique to this collecting community, and as far as I've seen not any more prevalent here than in any other community. Simple fact of life: some people whine about anything that doesn't go their way. Second fact: those people usually make more noise than those of us just enjoying doing our own thing.
What games are you into? Also sorry for the earwurm infection yesterday.
Gah! Now you reminded me, and it's stuck in my head again!
Which kind of games? On the tabletop front I'm into Dungeons & Dragons (any edition, I've been playing for 25+ years), Pathfinder, and really any other tabletop RPG I can get folks together to play (looking forward to Starfinder this summer). Board games: Anything with a fantasty or sci-fi theme (Warhammer, Firefly, Talisman, etc.) and the same with CCG's -- oddly enough never got into Pokemon, but I'm a Magic: The Gathering fan, and play a few other older ones like Spellfire and Rage. Started playing a few dice placement games here recently, which is a new spin on an old concept. I played quite a bit of Dragon Dice back in the day.
Video Games: Really anything RPG related, especially retro or neo-retro JRPG style. I hopped over here on NA while working on building a collection/display for the NES game Solstice, but apparently I've decided to pick up collecting old NES/SNES rpg's as well -- not that I needed *another* thing to collect. My office/ game room/library are weeping at the thought of adding yet more shelves.
I haven't played much D&D, just a few games locally with some friends a couple years ago. But I grew up with pen and paper RPGs in my family: Call of Cthulhu, Shadowrun, RuneQuest, and stuff like that. I was never big on Warhammer (battles take waaay too long for me) but my dad, brother, and husband are pretty big into it. Especially my dad, he collects pretty much everything GamesWorkshop. I've also played a lot of magic.
I saw your Solstice post (one of my favorite games as a kid) I showed the thread to a friend of mine who had made an extensive history of/review video last year. If you ever want to talk games, or need some suggestions for good 8/16 bit RPGs to try out feel free to send me a message. There's not much I haven't played.
What came first video gaming or whiners.
I'm relatively new to the video game collecting community, but I've been a collector for decades (tabletop games, board games, miniatures, dice, fantasy coins, books). People complaining isn't unique to this collecting community, and as far as I've seen not any more prevalent here than in any other community. Simple fact of life: some people whine about anything that doesn't go their way. Second fact: those people usually make more noise than those of us just enjoying doing our own thing.
What games are you into? Also sorry for the earwurm infection yesterday.
Gah! Now you reminded me, and it's stuck in my head again!
Which kind of games? On the tabletop front I'm into Dungeons & Dragons (any edition, I've been playing for 25+ years), Pathfinder, and really any other tabletop RPG I can get folks together to play (looking forward to Starfinder this summer). Board games: Anything with a fantasty or sci-fi theme (Warhammer, Firefly, Talisman, etc.) and the same with CCG's -- oddly enough never got into Pokemon, but I'm a Magic: The Gathering fan, and play a few other older ones like Spellfire and Rage. Started playing a few dice placement games here recently, which is a new spin on an old concept. I played quite a bit of Dragon Dice back in the day.
Video Games: Really anything RPG related, especially retro or neo-retro JRPG style. I hopped over here on NA while working on building a collection/display for the NES game Solstice, but apparently I've decided to pick up collecting old NES/SNES rpg's as well -- not that I needed *another* thing to collect. My office/ game room/library are weeping at the thought of adding yet more shelves.
You and I must be cut from the same cloth!
Have you guys even been to a convention in the past few years and seen the types of "collectors" attracted by shows like Game Chasers and Pat the NES Punk? Overweight, unshaven, socially retarded man children with misogynistic and entitled attitudes, most still living with their parents or working in the service industry. While nerds were regarded as being booksmart and tech savvy, these guys are basically the borderline illiterate, special ed class guys that were happy to get involved in a hobby requiring no physical activity, a sense of accomplishment through hoarding physical objects, and a low barrier to entry with regards to skill or intelligence.
I liked Pat, but over time I've notice that he isn't a big fan of Nintendo Age is he?.. kind of stand offish too.
"Gotta have everything or complain about it non stop"
in all honesty its just because in general video game collectors are mostly younger and with that comes alot of immaturity of how the world works and being unrealistic
I blame the leftists
"Gotta have everything or complain about it non stop"
in all honesty its just because in general video game collectors are mostly younger and with that comes alot of immaturity of how the world works and being unrealistic
Is it though? I would argue that this hobby is predominantly 30-40 year olds. And really, when people complain about prices, it's mostly for obscure shit that hardly any 18-24 year old even knows about or cares about. From what I've seen, the younger crowd wants their marios and other high demand games, and I've almost never heard any of them bitch about buying Mario Kart 64 for $50.
Unless you personally see a wave of younger people buying $100+ titles, I'm going to have to say your assumption is off base. It's people who have "been collecting forever" that seem to bitch the most. And of course, it's all a vocal minority anyway.
I blame the leftists
"Gotta have everything or complain about it non stop"
in all honesty its just because in general video game collectors are mostly younger and with that comes alot of immaturity of how the world works and being unrealistic
Is it though? I wouldn't argue that this hobby is predominantly 30-40 year olds. And really, when people complain about prices, it's mostly for obscure shit that hardly any 18-24 year old even knows about or cares about. From what I've seen, the younger crowd wants their marios and other high demand games, and I've almost never heard any of them bitch about buying Mario Kart 64 for $50.
Unless you personally see a wave of younger people buying $100+ titles, I'm going to have to say your assumption is off base. It's people who have "been collecting forever" that seem to bitch the most. And of course, it's all a vocal minority anyway.
I'm 24...
I blame the leftists
"Gotta have everything or complain about it non stop"
in all honesty its just because in general video game collectors are mostly younger and with that comes alot of immaturity of how the world works and being unrealistic
Is it though? I wouldn't argue that this hobby is predominantly 30-40 year olds. And really, when people complain about prices, it's mostly for obscure shit that hardly any 18-24 year old even knows about or cares about. From what I've seen, the younger crowd wants their marios and other high demand games, and I've almost never heard any of them bitch about buying Mario Kart 64 for $50.
Unless you personally see a wave of younger people buying $100+ titles, I'm going to have to say your assumption is off base. It's people who have "been collecting forever" that seem to bitch the most. And of course, it's all a vocal minority anyway.
I'm 24...
Old man. I'm 23. Also, I don't believe either of us run around complaining about prices? We are besides the point though, I'm generalizing.
its because mother fuckee i used to own that game back when i was 10 years old and i sure as hell didnt pay $100+ for it. now i want it again and fuck paying that price. and because i had it before i should get it for the price i feel comfortable paying before some dank collector.
plus im sitting in this stuffed dirty diaper for hours and somebody needs to change it for me damn it!
I find the comments about people "wrecking the hobby" interesting. There is no one singular definition of what this hobby is and what it means.
Some people like to play video games.
Some people like to collect video games.
Some people like both.
Some people like neither and just want to talk about games on youtube.
And on, and on, and on.
Loosely, we are all talking about video games. Different people get different levels of enjoyment out of them. And all of the above types of people (and many more) are all enjoying or participating in different aspects of this hobby. No one of them is better than any other or the 'right' way to engage in the hobby.
At the end of the day, and I have said this before in comments past, all of these things are simply toys and games that we don't need to survive - WANTS of ours at various different levels. We can't always have everything we want. It is a free, very loosely regulated market that all of us have virtually the same opportunity to access and participate in.
I want a nice CIB copy of Jack Bros for Virtual Boy (I'm an Atlus collector). This item is several hundred dollars and has been for a long time. I don't need it, I want it. I have the option of saving up tons of money and buying it, at an opportunity cost of many other things. I am choosing not to. Sure I wish it was cheaper and I could get it for $50. But it isn't.
Maybe for some people it is choosing between paying the bills and having the game they want. For others money isn't as tight. Either way they have a choice.
I'm fine with a little bit of venting every now and then and wishing things would be cheaper. I think it's ok and reasonable to expect that people in this hobby will vent a little bit every now and then and want games to be cheaper or easier to acquire. But when people start blaming other segments in the hobby, calling others collectards (I hate this word), and ridiculing other people's choices with collecting and insinuating they are causing a bunch of problems, etc., that's when I think people go too far and just need to relax.
Thank you for having the best most thoughtful post in here, and frankly one of the best on this forum ever. Pretty much sums it up 100%.
Have you guys even been to a convention in the past few years and seen the types of "collectors" attracted by shows like Game Chasers and Pat the NES Punk?
Yes. As a seller, I can spot those types from a mile away.
They're not all bad though, one of the "Lame Chaser" guys (apparently they don't care for the Game Chasers?) helped save my merchandise from dripping overhead water at MGC a couple years ago.
For reference, I'm in my early 30's. Biggest mistake was selling my 300+ cart collection a little over a decade ago, thinking that if I ever wanted to piece it back together that it would be easy to rebuild. Thats pretty much why I was a little bitter when I decided to get back into it a few years ago. Totally underestimated what the demand would become.
You'll get a laugh out of this, I actually thought I could still get used nes and snes games at gamestop circa 2013-14. I was under the impression that gamestop was just funcoland with a new name. I was wayyyyyy off. I drove to the local gamestop, the whole way thinking to myself "HOLY SHIT I CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY SOME MARIO 3 AND MARIO WORLD, I'M SO FUCKIN AMPPPPPPED, YEAH!!!" When I got there I went straight to the counter and asked, but the kid at the register gave me the head shake of disappointment coupled with a "seriously dude?". So I hung my head and took a walk of shame back out to my car, checked ebay, and the sound of my jaw hitting the floor almost scared me enough to simultaneously shit my pants. I was soooooo mad. I felt like I had won the lottery, but then someone had burnt the ticket to ashes right in front of my face.
But anyway, I got over it and my collection is almost back to where it was before. If anything, I think it's cool that people of all ages and backgrounds are having fun with what was and is such a huge part of my life. Ask anyone my age, any birthday, any Xmas or chanukah, any sleepover, any hangout with friends, any good report card etc. It was all about Nintendo. Which turned into genesis, snes, n64, ps1, etc. But Nintendo really started it all. And I'm really glad I got to experience it all firsthand at the age that I was, it's a whole lot more to me than just video games. And although I was always proud and never ashamed of my Nintendo habit, I feel like it's more legitimized these days.
I'm just glad these things I hold so dear to me are now, for the most part, being taken care of and appreciated instead of baking in the sun at flea markets or rotting away in dank basements.
Missing the bus sucks. But it sucks even worse when you're already at the bus stop and you actually have to watch it pull away.
I'm just glad these things I hold so dear to me are now, for the most part, being taken care of and appreciated instead of baking in the sun at flea markets or rotting away in dank basements.
wise words right here
I blame the leftists
"Gotta have everything or complain about it non stop"
in all honesty its just because in general video game collectors are mostly younger and with that comes alot of immaturity of how the world works and being unrealistic
Is it though? I would argue that this hobby is predominantly 30-40 year olds. And really, when people complain about prices, it's mostly for obscure shit that hardly any 18-24 year old even knows about or cares about. From what I've seen, the younger crowd wants their marios and other high demand games, and I've almost never heard any of them bitch about buying Mario Kart 64 for $50.
Unless you personally see a wave of younger people buying $100+ titles, I'm going to have to say your assumption is off base. It's people who have "been collecting forever" that seem to bitch the most. And of course, it's all a vocal minority anyway.
The last NA poll had the most at 29 and 30 i believe. There are more 20 somethings on this site than 30 somethings i think.
Many other hobbies, or at least, segments of hobbies go through dramatic price spikes at times as well. What's with the man-children in this hobby that can't accept the fact that sometimes certain items get out of reach, and that you are not entitled to be able to afford something?
Discuss. I really don't know what it is about this group. I suspect that its because it skews young and includes some collectors that don't see themselves as such (?) but man, if this place was a physical space I'd pick it up and move it next to a Kleenex factory and a Massengill plant.
There's no possibility of having a decent discussion when you start your thread off by calling people "whiny" and "man children."
I agree that's the perception, but that's such a pile of horseshit ultimately Nathan.
First people DO read rare comics, some people enjoy that. If I bought an action 1 tomorrow by some stroke of luck, I'd read it immediately.
I have to call "bullshit" on that one
Unless you are talking about some ass-condition copy.
A deteriorated copy is more likely to sustain further damage from handling than one in decent shape. I'd rather read a Fine or Very Good copy than one in Poor condition with pages that will crumble more no matter how careful you are.
Mint might be another story, but that segment isn't my interest to begin with.