Aw just like Rampart on gameboy. I remember a few year's ago being told you could not manipulate the market by buying everything up and putting them back up at a higher price but here we are.
You can't.
First you have to buy everything up and then sell back to yourself with several different ids for higher and higher prices.
Not true. Sculptor's cut, wacky races, chubby cherub, wayne's world, zombie nation, run saber, and stunt racer 64 are great examples. Here (http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&a... is a thread from 2013 that I started after I had been stalking SC for months to snag a copy for under the going rate (like I was successfully able to do for majority of the rare NES titles I still needed at that time), when suddenly all were bought that were listed on amazon, ebay, and other online vendors. It is and has happened over and over again.
Not sure about every single one of those titles as I've been more concerned with artwork these past few years BUT at least some of those are exactly as I described. One buyer using multiple IDs first buying up all the inventory and then selling them to himself at higher and higher prices wth multiple ids. Find a dealer with 20+ copies of F2 and you found him.
Aw just like Rampart on gameboy. I remember a few year's ago being told you could not manipulate the market by buying everything up and putting them back up at a higher price but here we are.
You can't.
First you have to buy everything up and then sell back to yourself with several different ids for higher and higher prices.
Not true. Sculptor's cut, wacky races, chubby cherub, wayne's world, zombie nation, run saber, and stunt racer 64 are great examples. Here (http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&a... is a thread from 2013 that I started after I had been stalking SC for months to snag a copy for under the going rate (like I was successfully able to do for majority of the rare NES titles I still needed at that time), when suddenly all were bought that were listed on amazon, ebay, and other online vendors. It is and has happened over and over again.
Not sure about every single one of those titles as I've been more concerned with artwork these past few years BUT at least some of those are exactly as I described. One buyer using multiple IDs first buying up all the inventory and then selling them to himself at higher and higher prices wth multiple ids. Find a dealer with 20+ copies of F2 and you found him.
Everyone of those titles.. saw it with my own eyes. And don't even need fake accounts.. especially at that time. All you need is a new collector(s) coming into the hobby not doing their research and making a purchase at the newly inflated price. Or those "I have to have it now" collectors. One of the reasons Ive pretty much stopped buying is because of all the artificial inflation. Well and the fact the last 8 NES games I need are wayyyy more than I want to pay.
Aw just like Rampart on gameboy. I remember a few year's ago being told you could not manipulate the market by buying everything up and putting them back up at a higher price but here we are.
You can't.
First you have to buy everything up and then sell back to yourself with several different ids for higher and higher prices.
Not true. Sculptor's cut, wacky races, chubby cherub, wayne's world, zombie nation, run saber, and stunt racer 64 are great examples. http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&thr... is a thread from 2013 that I started after I had been stalking SC for months to snag a copy for under the going rate (like I was successfully able to do for majority of the rare NES titles I still needed at that time), when suddenly all were bought that were listed on amazon, ebay, and other online vendors. It is and has happened over and over again.
Not sure about every single one of those titles as I've been more concerned with artwork these past few years BUT at least some of those are exactly as I described. One buyer using multiple IDs first buying up all the inventory and then selling them to himself at higher and higher prices wth multiple ids. Find a dealer with 20+ copies of F2 and you found him.
Aw just like Rampart on gameboy. I remember a few year's ago being told you could not manipulate the market by buying everything up and putting them back up at a higher price but here we are.
You can't.
First you have to buy everything up and then sell back to yourself with several different ids for higher and higher prices.
Not true. Sculptor's cut, wacky races, chubby cherub, wayne's world, zombie nation, run saber, and stunt racer 64 are great examples. Here (http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&a... is a thread from 2013 that I started after I had been stalking SC for months to snag a copy for under the going rate (like I was successfully able to do for majority of the rare NES titles I still needed at that time), when suddenly all were bought that were listed on amazon, ebay, and other online vendors. It is and has happened over and over again.
Not sure about every single one of those titles as I've been more concerned with artwork these past few years BUT at least some of those are exactly as I described. One buyer using multiple IDs first buying up all the inventory and then selling them to himself at higher and higher prices wth multiple ids. Find a dealer with 20+ copies of F2 and you found him.
Everyone of those titles.. saw it with my own eyes. And don't even need fake accounts.. especially at that time. All you need is a new collector(s) coming into the hobby not doing their research and making a purchase at the newly inflated price. Or those "I have to have it now" collectors. One of the reasons Ive pretty much stopped buying is because of all the artificial inflation. Well and the fact the last 8 NES games I need are wayyyy more than I want to pay.
You don't get it.
Did you see that one bidder (with only 300-400 feedback) that you saw buying all the SC sell even a single SC cart after the price went up?
Aw just like Rampart on gameboy. I remember a few year's ago being told you could not manipulate the market by buying everything up and putting them back up at a higher price but here we are.
You can't.
First you have to buy everything up and then sell back to yourself with several different ids for higher and higher prices.
Not true. Sculptor's cut, wacky races, chubby cherub, wayne's world, zombie nation, run saber, and stunt racer 64 are great examples. Here (http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&a... is a thread from 2013 that I started after I had been stalking SC for months to snag a copy for under the going rate (like I was successfully able to do for majority of the rare NES titles I still needed at that time), when suddenly all were bought that were listed on amazon, ebay, and other online vendors. It is and has happened over and over again.
Not sure about every single one of those titles as I've been more concerned with artwork these past few years BUT at least some of those are exactly as I described. One buyer using multiple IDs first buying up all the inventory and then selling them to himself at higher and higher prices wth multiple ids. Find a dealer with 20+ copies of F2 and you found him.
Everyone of those titles.. saw it with my own eyes. And don't even need fake accounts.. especially at that time. All you need is a new collector(s) coming into the hobby not doing their research and making a purchase at the newly inflated price. Or those "I have to have it now" collectors. One of the reasons Ive pretty much stopped buying is because of all the artificial inflation. Well and the fact the last 8 NES games I need are wayyyy more than I want to pay.
You don't get it.
Did you see that one bidder (with only 300-400 feedback) that you saw buying all the SC sell even a single SC cart after the price went up?
He is using multiple IDs.
Buying up inventory is only the first step.
You don't get it... haha. I'm not arguing with you. Lol. Just giving other factors that played a role. The key to making it work is getting the sale, whether doing it yourself, through buddies, or non-savvy collectors. And yes, the same seller kept relisting multiple SC, in case you were wondering. I'm sure s/he had other accounts as well.
Kid Klown never made much impression on me. Like Swamp Thing, Sword Master, Sky Kid, I surely encountered these titles over time but I don't recognize them. That's the ones that caught my attention ITT, and I looked them up, and still regard them as interesting, but ultimately mediocre. Zombie Nation is the one that I didn't have to check. As a NES and NYC shmup/proto bullet hell game near the end of the alphabet, I definitely noticed it in my emulation days.
This hobby seems to be unique and infinitely introspective. It's lightning in a bottle, in that people seem to see completion as both desireable and possible. I don't think that's the case with any other collecting areas.
It's just like when you get a girlfriend or get married and then all of a sudden you're desired more. People want what they can't have or are envious of what others possess. We're really all just jealous teenage girls hunting for games instead of boyfriends and some are willing to put out more than others.
Any market can be manipulated but I don't believe there is some fiend out there driving up the price of video games, but I could be wrong.
No, there is. Many in fact.
Proof?
I firmly believe that the only reason Hello Kitty Kruisers for the Wii U is so expensive is because of the hype and speculation on this forum.
Why just this forum? Reddit, facebook groups, other forums also play a role in all the speculation and hype. And I completely agree with why HKK costs what it costs as far as speculation and hype goes. I used to see it everywhere locally.
This is my personal belief on this but I don't think that kid klown is that rare as it is uncommon. The only thing that has risen the value of this game is the fact that yes it is the demand and the hobby has grown. I keep going back to this example of "Chrono Trigger and Seacret of Mana" not very rare game to acquire but it's he fact that these games are so good that people keep them. Kid Klown isn't a common game to find by any stretch but I wouldn't say this is a rare game either as i've been able to find copies in the wild around 9 or so years back in stores just not as frequent but fairly often. Try finding zombie nation or any of the other titles mentioned in stores even once in a few months time at your local game store.
Disagree 100 percent. Zombie nation is more common than kid klown.
Not just from personal experience, just from online availability as well.
But if you want to use accedotal personal experience like you did, ive found/seen 5 zombie nations. Ive seen/found 1 kid klown and that was 6 years ago when it was worth 30 bucks. I traveled all over snd went hunting non stop for quite a few years. Way more than the average NA user. I went on long game hunting trips and im located in apparently "game heaven" region for finds.
But kid klown has always been more scarce than zombie nation
Interesting that you say that. I've seen little to none in the wild of both but the last convention I went to there were I'd venture to say 7 or more Kid Klowns and not a single Zombie Nation in sight. Either way, both are very uncommon / rare games from my game hunting trips anyways.
Any market can be manipulated but I don't believe there is some fiend out there driving up the price of video games, but I could be wrong.
No, there is. Many in fact.
Proof?
I firmly believe that the only reason Hello Kitty Kruisers for the Wii U is so expensive is because of the hype and speculation on this forum.
Why just this forum? Reddit, facebook groups, other forums also play a role in all the speculation and hype.
Right, but my believe is mainly based on the conversations had in the Wii U Collector's Thread on this forum.
I understand that. I just saw more speculation (and especially hype) on facebook groups than I did here, which is what I'm getting at.
I'm not doubting that either. I'm just saying my experience has been on this forum. I don't belong to any Facebook collecting groups or anything like that.
I've seen games with zero hype spike right before my eyes. All it takes sometimes is a few new people bidding on eBay auctions, and those people bidding a little higher than usual, and if a game is actually rare, then supply won't necessarily get replenished very easily, and if it does, a new price ceiling may be set.
They still need to be somewhat rare. I was/am an avid Wii u collector and I never see hkk. Sure, I use to, but I haven't seen that game in over a year locally for ANY price. Having said that, the prices these games seem to jump to are completely arbitrary. There were NO turbo stunt squads on eBay at one point... I bought one for 20 a few weeks prior and then listed on eBay for 150 and put all the cheesy key word in the title 'htf rare' etc. And it sold very quickly. A couple days later some one else listed one for 199 only because of my listing and this new benchmark price. This only sustains due to the game actually being rare.
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Aw just like Rampart on gameboy. I remember a few year's ago being told you could not manipulate the market by buying everything up and putting them back up at a higher price but here we are.
You can't.
First you have to buy everything up and then sell back to yourself with several different ids for higher and higher prices.
Not true. Sculptor's cut, wacky races, chubby cherub, wayne's world, zombie nation, run saber, and stunt racer 64 are great examples. Here (http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&a... is a thread from 2013 that I started after I had been stalking SC for months to snag a copy for under the going rate (like I was successfully able to do for majority of the rare NES titles I still needed at that time), when suddenly all were bought that were listed on amazon, ebay, and other online vendors. It is and has happened over and over again.
Not sure about every single one of those titles as I've been more concerned with artwork these past few years BUT at least some of those are exactly as I described. One buyer using multiple IDs first buying up all the inventory and then selling them to himself at higher and higher prices wth multiple ids. Find a dealer with 20+ copies of F2 and you found him.
Aw just like Rampart on gameboy. I remember a few year's ago being told you could not manipulate the market by buying everything up and putting them back up at a higher price but here we are.
You can't.
First you have to buy everything up and then sell back to yourself with several different ids for higher and higher prices.
Not true. Sculptor's cut, wacky races, chubby cherub, wayne's world, zombie nation, run saber, and stunt racer 64 are great examples. Here (http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&a... is a thread from 2013 that I started after I had been stalking SC for months to snag a copy for under the going rate (like I was successfully able to do for majority of the rare NES titles I still needed at that time), when suddenly all were bought that were listed on amazon, ebay, and other online vendors. It is and has happened over and over again.
Not sure about every single one of those titles as I've been more concerned with artwork these past few years BUT at least some of those are exactly as I described. One buyer using multiple IDs first buying up all the inventory and then selling them to himself at higher and higher prices wth multiple ids. Find a dealer with 20+ copies of F2 and you found him.
Everyone of those titles.. saw it with my own eyes. And don't even need fake accounts.. especially at that time. All you need is a new collector(s) coming into the hobby not doing their research and making a purchase at the newly inflated price. Or those "I have to have it now" collectors. One of the reasons Ive pretty much stopped buying is because of all the artificial inflation. Well and the fact the last 8 NES games I need are wayyyy more than I want to pay.
Originally posted by: Buyatari
Originally posted by: dewisp02
Originally posted by: Buyatari
Originally posted by: zredgemz
Aw just like Rampart on gameboy. I remember a few year's ago being told you could not manipulate the market by buying everything up and putting them back up at a higher price but here we are.
You can't.
First you have to buy everything up and then sell back to yourself with several different ids for higher and higher prices.
Not true. Sculptor's cut, wacky races, chubby cherub, wayne's world, zombie nation, run saber, and stunt racer 64 are great examples. http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&thr... is a thread from 2013 that I started after I had been stalking SC for months to snag a copy for under the going rate (like I was successfully able to do for majority of the rare NES titles I still needed at that time), when suddenly all were bought that were listed on amazon, ebay, and other online vendors. It is and has happened over and over again.
Not sure about every single one of those titles as I've been more concerned with artwork these past few years BUT at least some of those are exactly as I described. One buyer using multiple IDs first buying up all the inventory and then selling them to himself at higher and higher prices wth multiple ids. Find a dealer with 20+ copies of F2 and you found him.
The Game King?
Aw just like Rampart on gameboy. I remember a few year's ago being told you could not manipulate the market by buying everything up and putting them back up at a higher price but here we are.
You can't.
First you have to buy everything up and then sell back to yourself with several different ids for higher and higher prices.
Not true. Sculptor's cut, wacky races, chubby cherub, wayne's world, zombie nation, run saber, and stunt racer 64 are great examples. Here (http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&a... is a thread from 2013 that I started after I had been stalking SC for months to snag a copy for under the going rate (like I was successfully able to do for majority of the rare NES titles I still needed at that time), when suddenly all were bought that were listed on amazon, ebay, and other online vendors. It is and has happened over and over again.
Not sure about every single one of those titles as I've been more concerned with artwork these past few years BUT at least some of those are exactly as I described. One buyer using multiple IDs first buying up all the inventory and then selling them to himself at higher and higher prices wth multiple ids. Find a dealer with 20+ copies of F2 and you found him.
Everyone of those titles.. saw it with my own eyes. And don't even need fake accounts.. especially at that time. All you need is a new collector(s) coming into the hobby not doing their research and making a purchase at the newly inflated price. Or those "I have to have it now" collectors. One of the reasons Ive pretty much stopped buying is because of all the artificial inflation. Well and the fact the last 8 NES games I need are wayyyy more than I want to pay.
You don't get it.
Did you see that one bidder (with only 300-400 feedback) that you saw buying all the SC sell even a single SC cart after the price went up?
He is using multiple IDs.
Buying up inventory is only the first step.
Aw just like Rampart on gameboy. I remember a few year's ago being told you could not manipulate the market by buying everything up and putting them back up at a higher price but here we are.
You can't.
First you have to buy everything up and then sell back to yourself with several different ids for higher and higher prices.
Not true. Sculptor's cut, wacky races, chubby cherub, wayne's world, zombie nation, run saber, and stunt racer 64 are great examples. Here (http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&a... is a thread from 2013 that I started after I had been stalking SC for months to snag a copy for under the going rate (like I was successfully able to do for majority of the rare NES titles I still needed at that time), when suddenly all were bought that were listed on amazon, ebay, and other online vendors. It is and has happened over and over again.
Not sure about every single one of those titles as I've been more concerned with artwork these past few years BUT at least some of those are exactly as I described. One buyer using multiple IDs first buying up all the inventory and then selling them to himself at higher and higher prices wth multiple ids. Find a dealer with 20+ copies of F2 and you found him.
Everyone of those titles.. saw it with my own eyes. And don't even need fake accounts.. especially at that time. All you need is a new collector(s) coming into the hobby not doing their research and making a purchase at the newly inflated price. Or those "I have to have it now" collectors. One of the reasons Ive pretty much stopped buying is because of all the artificial inflation. Well and the fact the last 8 NES games I need are wayyyy more than I want to pay.
You don't get it.
Did you see that one bidder (with only 300-400 feedback) that you saw buying all the SC sell even a single SC cart after the price went up?
He is using multiple IDs.
Buying up inventory is only the first step.
And yes, the same seller kept relisting multiple SC, in case you were wondering. I'm sure s/he had other accounts as well.
This hobby seems to be unique and infinitely introspective. It's lightning in a bottle, in that people seem to see completion as both desireable and possible. I don't think that's the case with any other collecting areas.
Originally posted by: guitarzombie
Originally posted by: Bert
Originally posted by: dragonwarrior83
Any market can be manipulated but I don't believe there is some fiend out there driving up the price of video games, but I could be wrong.
No, there is. Many in fact.
Proof?
I firmly believe that the only reason Hello Kitty Kruisers for the Wii U is so expensive is because of the hype and speculation on this forum.
Any market can be manipulated but I don't believe there is some fiend out there driving up the price of video games, but I could be wrong.
No, there is. Many in fact.
Proof?
I firmly believe that the only reason Hello Kitty Kruisers for the Wii U is so expensive is because of the hype and speculation on this forum.
Why just this forum? Reddit, facebook groups, other forums also play a role in all the speculation and hype. And I completely agree with why HKK costs what it costs as far as speculation and hype goes. I used to see it everywhere locally.
Originally posted by: dewisp02
Originally posted by: beardcore84
Originally posted by: guitarzombie
Originally posted by: Bert
Originally posted by: dragonwarrior83
Any market can be manipulated but I don't believe there is some fiend out there driving up the price of video games, but I could be wrong.
No, there is. Many in fact.
Proof?
I firmly believe that the only reason Hello Kitty Kruisers for the Wii U is so expensive is because of the hype and speculation on this forum.
Why just this forum? Reddit, facebook groups, other forums also play a role in all the speculation and hype.
Right, but my believe is mainly based on the conversations had in the Wii U Collector's Thread on this forum.
Any market can be manipulated but I don't believe there is some fiend out there driving up the price of video games, but I could be wrong.
No, there is. Many in fact.
Proof?
I firmly believe that the only reason Hello Kitty Kruisers for the Wii U is so expensive is because of the hype and speculation on this forum.
Why just this forum? Reddit, facebook groups, other forums also play a role in all the speculation and hype.
Right, but my believe is mainly based on the conversations had in the Wii U Collector's Thread on this forum.
I understand that. I just saw more speculation (and especially hype) on facebook groups than I did here, which is what I'm getting at.
This is my personal belief on this but I don't think that kid klown is that rare as it is uncommon. The only thing that has risen the value of this game is the fact that yes it is the demand and the hobby has grown. I keep going back to this example of "Chrono Trigger and Seacret of Mana" not very rare game to acquire but it's he fact that these games are so good that people keep them. Kid Klown isn't a common game to find by any stretch but I wouldn't say this is a rare game either as i've been able to find copies in the wild around 9 or so years back in stores just not as frequent but fairly often. Try finding zombie nation or any of the other titles mentioned in stores even once in a few months time at your local game store.
Disagree 100 percent. Zombie nation is more common than kid klown.
Not just from personal experience, just from online availability as well.
But if you want to use accedotal personal experience like you did, ive found/seen 5 zombie nations. Ive seen/found 1 kid klown and that was 6 years ago when it was worth 30 bucks. I traveled all over snd went hunting non stop for quite a few years. Way more than the average NA user. I went on long game hunting trips and im located in apparently "game heaven" region for finds.
But kid klown has always been more scarce than zombie nation
Interesting that you say that. I've seen little to none in the wild of both but the last convention I went to there were I'd venture to say 7 or more Kid Klowns and not a single Zombie Nation in sight. Either way, both are very uncommon / rare games from my game hunting trips anyways.
Originally posted by: dewisp02
Originally posted by: beardcore84
Originally posted by: dewisp02
Originally posted by: beardcore84
Originally posted by: guitarzombie
Originally posted by: Bert
Originally posted by: dragonwarrior83
Any market can be manipulated but I don't believe there is some fiend out there driving up the price of video games, but I could be wrong.
No, there is. Many in fact.
Proof?
I firmly believe that the only reason Hello Kitty Kruisers for the Wii U is so expensive is because of the hype and speculation on this forum.
Why just this forum? Reddit, facebook groups, other forums also play a role in all the speculation and hype.
Right, but my believe is mainly based on the conversations had in the Wii U Collector's Thread on this forum.
I understand that. I just saw more speculation (and especially hype) on facebook groups than I did here, which is what I'm getting at.
I'm not doubting that either. I'm just saying my experience has been on this forum. I don't belong to any Facebook collecting groups or anything like that.