Speaking of selling, from your personal experience how many people of the non full set people vs full set people do you believe have burned out and sold everything or most of everything off Bronty?
This includes all console people you have heard or know about.
Oh I dunno, I guess we are veering into side issues, but I think either side can and hasn't burned out and there's nothing wrong with moving on if your interests change.
overall I'd guess full set guys stick around longer, but that's a total guess and not always true
I think the issue that I have with it is that there is seemingly no rhyme or reason to changes in the market. A game could be cheap as dirt for years then inexplicably in the span of a month shoot up for no good reason whatsoever. There are lots of legitimately rare titles that aren't expensive, games that sold millions of copies that sell for $40+, games that are horrible pieces of shit like Wayne's World on NES that serve no value to anyone but the most dedicated of completionists that sell for over $100. None of it makes any sense to me. I think the other frustration is that the market is still manipulated and controlled by resellers who have absolutely no stake in the hobby other than to make a quick buck.
The sudden price spikes you mention... Yeah that's the way it usually happens, prices jump from equilibrium point to equilibrium point rather than some slow upward curve like we might imagine. Explode plateau repeat. If you missed this bus you're still in time for the next one
I think the issue that I have with it is that there is seemingly no rhyme or reason to changes in the market. A game could be cheap as dirt for years then inexplicably in the span of a month shoot up for no good reason whatsoever. There are lots of legitimately rare titles that aren't expensive, games that sold millions of copies that sell for $40+, games that are horrible pieces of shit like Wayne's World on NES that serve no value to anyone but the most dedicated of completionists that sell for over $100. None of it makes any sense to me. I think the other frustration is that the market is still manipulated and controlled by resellers who have absolutely no stake in the hobby other than to make a quick buck.
The sudden price spikes you mention... Yeah that's the way it usually happens, prices jump from equilibrium point to equilibrium point rather than some slow upward curve like we might imagine. Explode plateau repeat. If you missed this bus you're still in time for the next one
That, and there was a pretty good streak of some "hidden gem" being reviewed and the price would spike for about a month.
I am not judging but i am curious to know, from what i have seen here and of course this is only public knowledge, it seem's the people that either start or change into fullset people have been burning out in the past few year's and not just fresh collector's.
That might be part of it but I think it's a smaller part? I know almost nothing about coin and card collecting but it's quite common to collect sets there too. Maybe not every card or coin ever (in the same way that few or non try for every video game ever), but subsets like say 1870-1910 quarters , or 1957 topps baseball, or whatever...
baseball cards were all about sets. they had freaking checklists in the packs haha
haha Yeah, nut they have like a thousand different sets, not one "north american" set that everyone fights over
If you like baseball cards or most other hobbies you simply don't collect the sets you can't afford. You collect them as they come out when they are cheap or you collect the expensive sets if you are rich.. You don't pick an expensive set and complain that you can't finish it, you just pick another set
Edit With NES games it's basically all or nothing.. You collect the expensive set or you are a wierdo pariah who collects pirate famicom games like me .
edit2: btw, prices are crazy low for super rare games! I love todays prices!
Never understood why everyone on the whole planet is trying to collect the NA set, even many Europeans.
That might be part of it but I think it's a smaller part? I know almost nothing about coin and card collecting but it's quite common to collect sets there too. Maybe not every card or coin ever (in the same way that few or non try for every video game ever), but subsets like say 1870-1910 quarters , or 1957 topps baseball, or whatever...
baseball cards were all about sets. they had freaking checklists in the packs haha
haha Yeah, nut they have like a thousand different sets, not one "north american" set that everyone fights over
If you like baseball cards or most other hobbies you simply don't collect the sets you can't afford. You collect them as they come out when they are cheap or you collect the expensive sets if you are rich.. You don't pick an expensive set and complain that you can't finish it, you just pick another set
Edit With NES games it's basically all or nothing.. You collect the expensive set or you are a wierdo pariah who collects pirate famicom games like me .
edit2: btw, prices are crazy low for super rare games! I love todays prices!
Never understood why everyone on the whole planet is trying to collect the NA set, even many Europeans.
Because the vast majority of PAL releases are basically crippled hacks of the NTSC versions. The NSTC versions of the games are definitive, and PAL releases are basically nothing more than a slapped together afterthought.
I think being able to actively collect these days is just tough. You can participate in other collector-oriented hobbies like comics, cards, toys, and even movies, and add new items to your collection on a regular basis for very little money, and you can find them almost everywhere. And these can be widely celebrated, quality, enjoyable items from both the past and present.
The real celebrated platforms that are popular now among collectors -- NES, SNES, Genesis, Saturn, and so on -- all have a much higher barrier to entry, price-wise. Sure, there's a modest amount of great NES carts under ten bucks, but once you've picked those up, and eliminated all the sports titles, the prices quickly go upwards. It's hard to "actively" collect as a hobby without shelling out a lot of cash. The scope of the hobby is much narrower in the console collecting world.
I think it's ibmportant to remember what hobby you're in. If it's console video game collecting, man there is no end of great titles for under ten bucks. If your hobby is really NES (or snes or whatever) cart collecting then you have to expect it to be more expensive than the cost of lunch at subway! It's older material with a lot of demand behind it.
Never understood why everyone on the whole planet is trying to collect the NA set, even many Europeans.
Because the vast majority of PAL releases are basically crippled hacks of the NTSC versions. The NSTC versions of the games are definitive, and PAL releases are basically nothing more than a slapped together afterthought.
Haha, spot on, could've not said it better myself. Also, this continued all the way up to until the "HD" generation (PS3).
Reading through this thread is kind of getting messy, but certainly made me rethink on a few things. But to answer on the topic thread, I think it's really a psychological question, and it can be answered by simply asking "why do whingers whinge?"
I've compiled a list:
- because they're babies and like chucking tantrums and whinges for fun
- they don't understand the reality of the market trends
- they're greedy and want everything despite this being an impossibility
- they're being treated unfairly by their surroundings (eg. other collectors or resellers)
- they feel burnout by what life has thrown at them
By the way, there is no right and wrong to the act of whinging. The question should really be "are our whinging productive or counter-productive?" If you whinge on something everyone feels miffed about, I think that can't be all bad. However, whinging on something that it's on a personal level, and noone else feels the same way, then it's probably counterproductive.
I think there's a difference between venting or occasional ranting, and whining. I also think sometimes it is hard to tell the difference.
Also, there is a difference between making comments like this:
A) "Man, can you all believe these prices??? What is going on?!" "What happened to XXXXX game? OMG the price is crazy now?" "Ugh....collecting NES is getting sooooooo expensive now!"
And this:
"Prices are ridiculous now for video games.........And you collectors (especially fullset collectors) are largely at fault and destroying the hobby........and by the way your collecting is indicative of a deep psychological problem"
See the difference?
I think we can all generally acknowledge that it is getting more expensive and difficult. I think it's even OK to talk about that and discuss some of the reasons why it is happening. I think where we can do better as a community and as individuals, is the following:
* We should all remember these are just video games and life goes on. This applies to everyone.
* We should try not to harass and criticize other people for exactly how they choose to game / collect / fund their hobby / etc.
* We should also try not to crap on threads, even if they are a little redundant. I know it's hard to resist the temptation, but sometimes we just need to roll our eyes and move on, as opposed to letting everyone know how ridiculous we think a thread is. See below for examples:
-- "Ugh. This thread again."
-- "In before the lock"
-- "Here we go again"
I know many of us are guilty of this and it's easy to do, but there are more constructive ways to discourage redundant threads.
Oh shit I actually just thought of the answer to the question.
Most people don't understand rudimentary business concepts in context of used/collectible markets!
Hahaha... duh!
You just smartened up my answer from the third post! I just said they were stupid and ignorant, haha.
So, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. In that, you echoed what a lot of us have already said, but in a succinct and straight forward, albeit somehwat filled with "jargon", way.
Oh shit I actually just thought of the answer to the question.
Most people don't understand rudimentary business concepts in context of used/collectible markets!
Hahaha... duh!
You just smartened up my answer from the third post! I just said they were stupid and ignorant, haha.
So, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. In that, you echoed what a lot of us have already said, but in a succinct and straight forward, albeit somehwat filled with "jargon", way.
Oh shit I actually just thought of the answer to the question.
Most people don't understand rudimentary business concepts in context of used/collectible markets!
Hahaha... duh!
You just smartened up my answer from the third post! I just said they were stupid and ignorant, haha.
So, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. In that, you echoed what a lot of us have already said, but in a succinct and straight forward, albeit somehwat filled with "jargon", way.
Well done, either way... and I agree with me/you.
I hardly make it to the third post.
Haha, well... you're still right, and it was well said! Also, I enjoyed the excuse to use the word "succinct".
I think a lot of good points have been brought up. The one thing I think we have to remember is where the "whining" comes from in the first place.
Video game collecting, by and large, is one of the cheapest hobbies to get in to. Anyone with a part-time job and some free time can have an NES and SMB3 by this weekend. There is also little to no barrier of entry to this hobby; money, knowledge or otherwise. To help illustrate what I mean, I asked my wife this question, as she collects vintage coutour fashion. She stated that no one ever complains about prices there. She believes that is a product of people knowing exactly what they getting in to before they start. Granted, that is significantly more niche, but I think the overall point is valid. People just don't know what they are getting in to when they start.
Generally speaking, I don't see a whole heck of a lot of "whining" from veterans who have be in "the game" from some time. Many of whom don't have anywhere near complete sets. It is mostly from people new to the scene where their initial investment was relatively inexpensive.
Couple that with the fact most people have an emotional attachment to these things and you have a perfect concoction to start the "whining" brew.
Video game collecting, by and large, is one of the cheapest hobbies to get in to.
yeah, that's what has always made my eyes roll about all of it. Its actually a very cheap hobby unless you set out to collect the expensive stuff on purpose. Yet the complaining...
Many other hobbies, or at least, segments of hobbies go through dramatic price spikes at times as well. What's with the man-children in this hobby that can't accept the fact that sometimes certain items get out of reach, and that you are not entitled to be able to afford something?
Discuss. I really don't know what it is about this group. I suspect that its because it skews young and includes some collectors that don't see themselves as such (?) but man, if this place was a physical space I'd pick it up and move it next to a Kleenex factory and a Massengill plant.
I work at a famous credit card company (the one you'd think has more affluent people) and they always whine over their membership fee going up. I think people don't like prices going up in general and it applies to anything. People feel somebody is at fault, or generally feel "betrayed", I dunno.
I sometimes do "whine", but that is because here in Mexico everyone thinks they got damn gold bars instead of games, and sell them even higher than ebay prices. I have seen sellers sit on their merchandise sometimes for years, without accepting any reasonable offers. For example, there is an Atari ET sign that I have an interest in, and the seller has had it up for sale for like 2 years now at the same high price. http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-554680647-atari-et-display-comercial-original-1982-_JM
I am the only one that has ever asked about the damn thing and offered reasonable ebay price (thinking I will have it sooner than if I buy it in ebay, and I would go pick it up personally), but the guy always refuses my offer. Now there are some of these on ebay and at leas one is significantly cheaper, even taking shipping cost on account.
That might be part of it but I think it's a smaller part? I know almost nothing about coin and card collecting but it's quite common to collect sets there too. Maybe not every card or coin ever (in the same way that few or non try for every video game ever), but subsets like say 1870-1910 quarters , or 1957 topps baseball, or whatever...
baseball cards were all about sets. they had freaking checklists in the packs haha
haha Yeah, nut they have like a thousand different sets, not one "north american" set that everyone fights over
If you like baseball cards or most other hobbies you simply don't collect the sets you can't afford. You collect them as they come out when they are cheap or you collect the expensive sets if you are rich.. You don't pick an expensive set and complain that you can't finish it, you just pick another set
Edit With NES games it's basically all or nothing.. You collect the expensive set or you are a wierdo pariah who collects pirate famicom games like me .
edit2: btw, prices are crazy low for super rare games! I love todays prices!
Never understood why everyone on the whole planet is trying to collect the NA set, even many Europeans.
Because the vast majority of PAL releases are basically crippled hacks of the NTSC versions. The NSTC versions of the games are definitive, and PAL releases are basically nothing more than a slapped together afterthought.
Sure, but NTSC sets are too well documented to be very interesting anymore. It'd be a lot more fun around here if more people branched out into uncharted territory.
I sometimes do "whine", but that is because here in Mexico everyone thinks they got damn gold bars instead of games, and sell them even higher than ebay prices. I have seen sellers sit on their merchandise sometimes for years, without accepting any reasonable offers. For example, there is an Atari ET sign that I have an interest in, and the seller has had it up for sale for like 2 years now at the same high price. http://articulo.mercadolibre.com....
I am the only one that has ever asked about the damn thing and offered reasonable ebay price (thinking I will have it sooner than if I buy it in ebay, and I would go pick it up personally), but the guy always refuses my offer. Now there are some of these on ebay and at leas one is significantly cheaper, even taking shipping cost on account.
Oh 2499 Pesos, not 2499 Dollars. I thought Mexico was really crazy for a second there.
I sometimes do "whine", but that is because here in Mexico everyone thinks they got damn gold bars instead of games, and sell them even higher than ebay prices. I have seen sellers sit on their merchandise sometimes for years, without accepting any reasonable offers. For example, there is an Atari ET sign that I have an interest in, and the seller has had it up for sale for like 2 years now at the same high price. http://articulo.mercadolibre.com....
I am the only one that has ever asked about the damn thing and offered reasonable ebay price (thinking I will have it sooner than if I buy it in ebay, and I would go pick it up personally), but the guy always refuses my offer. Now there are some of these on ebay and at leas one is significantly cheaper, even taking shipping cost on account.
Then buy the one online thats cheaper. Dont let that guy off the hook givibg him any money when he changes his mind
I sometimes do "whine", but that is because here in Mexico everyone thinks they got damn gold bars instead of games, and sell them even higher than ebay prices. I have seen sellers sit on their merchandise sometimes for years, without accepting any reasonable offers. For example, there is an Atari ET sign that I have an interest in, and the seller has had it up for sale for like 2 years now at the same high price. http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-554680647-atari-et-d...
I am the only one that has ever asked about the damn thing and offered reasonable ebay price (thinking I will have it sooner than if I buy it in ebay, and I would go pick it up personally), but the guy always refuses my offer. Now there are some of these on ebay and at leas one is significantly cheaper, even taking shipping cost on account.
Then buy the one online thats cheaper. Dont let that guy off the hook givibg him any money when he changes his mind
No way I will buy it at that price he has it. BEFORE the only option in eBay was more or less the same (including shipping), but I was like dude, you have this thing for years now, understand it does not have the value you are giving it... oh well...
Which kind of games? On the tabletop front I'm into Dungeons & Dragons (any edition, I've been playing for 25+ years),
Love me some old-school D&D
Mostly into the novels, but I have a ton of manuals and D&D games (This isn't a complete pic, it was before I was done sorting them). Been reading up on the 1st edition manuals some more, thinking of playing through Pool of Radiance again to write a faq on it.
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Speaking of selling, from your personal experience how many people of the non full set people vs full set people do you believe have burned out and sold everything or most of everything off Bronty?
This includes all console people you have heard or know about.
Oh I dunno, I guess we are veering into side issues, but I think either side can and hasn't burned out and there's nothing wrong with moving on if your interests change.
overall I'd guess full set guys stick around longer, but that's a total guess and not always true
I think the issue that I have with it is that there is seemingly no rhyme or reason to changes in the market. A game could be cheap as dirt for years then inexplicably in the span of a month shoot up for no good reason whatsoever. There are lots of legitimately rare titles that aren't expensive, games that sold millions of copies that sell for $40+, games that are horrible pieces of shit like Wayne's World on NES that serve no value to anyone but the most dedicated of completionists that sell for over $100. None of it makes any sense to me. I think the other frustration is that the market is still manipulated and controlled by resellers who have absolutely no stake in the hobby other than to make a quick buck.
The sudden price spikes you mention... Yeah that's the way it usually happens, prices jump from equilibrium point to equilibrium point rather than some slow upward curve like we might imagine. Explode plateau repeat. If you missed this bus you're still in time for the next one
I think the issue that I have with it is that there is seemingly no rhyme or reason to changes in the market. A game could be cheap as dirt for years then inexplicably in the span of a month shoot up for no good reason whatsoever. There are lots of legitimately rare titles that aren't expensive, games that sold millions of copies that sell for $40+, games that are horrible pieces of shit like Wayne's World on NES that serve no value to anyone but the most dedicated of completionists that sell for over $100. None of it makes any sense to me. I think the other frustration is that the market is still manipulated and controlled by resellers who have absolutely no stake in the hobby other than to make a quick buck.
The sudden price spikes you mention... Yeah that's the way it usually happens, prices jump from equilibrium point to equilibrium point rather than some slow upward curve like we might imagine. Explode plateau repeat. If you missed this bus you're still in time for the next one
That, and there was a pretty good streak of some "hidden gem" being reviewed and the price would spike for about a month.
That might be part of it but I think it's a smaller part? I know almost nothing about coin and card collecting but it's quite common to collect sets there too. Maybe not every card or coin ever (in the same way that few or non try for every video game ever), but subsets like say 1870-1910 quarters , or 1957 topps baseball, or whatever...
baseball cards were all about sets. they had freaking checklists in the packs haha
haha Yeah, nut they have like a thousand different sets, not one "north american" set that everyone fights over
If you like baseball cards or most other hobbies you simply don't collect the sets you can't afford. You collect them as they come out when they are cheap or you collect the expensive sets if you are rich.. You don't pick an expensive set and complain that you can't finish it, you just pick another set
Edit With NES games it's basically all or nothing.. You collect the expensive set or you are a wierdo pariah who collects pirate famicom games like me .
edit2: btw, prices are crazy low for super rare games! I love todays prices!
Never understood why everyone on the whole planet is trying to collect the NA set, even many Europeans.
That might be part of it but I think it's a smaller part? I know almost nothing about coin and card collecting but it's quite common to collect sets there too. Maybe not every card or coin ever (in the same way that few or non try for every video game ever), but subsets like say 1870-1910 quarters , or 1957 topps baseball, or whatever...
baseball cards were all about sets. they had freaking checklists in the packs haha
haha Yeah, nut they have like a thousand different sets, not one "north american" set that everyone fights over
If you like baseball cards or most other hobbies you simply don't collect the sets you can't afford. You collect them as they come out when they are cheap or you collect the expensive sets if you are rich.. You don't pick an expensive set and complain that you can't finish it, you just pick another set
Edit With NES games it's basically all or nothing.. You collect the expensive set or you are a wierdo pariah who collects pirate famicom games like me .
edit2: btw, prices are crazy low for super rare games! I love todays prices!
Never understood why everyone on the whole planet is trying to collect the NA set, even many Europeans.
Because the vast majority of PAL releases are basically crippled hacks of the NTSC versions. The NSTC versions of the games are definitive, and PAL releases are basically nothing more than a slapped together afterthought.
Never understood why everyone on the whole planet is trying to collect the NA set, even many Europeans.
The real celebrated platforms that are popular now among collectors -- NES, SNES, Genesis, Saturn, and so on -- all have a much higher barrier to entry, price-wise. Sure, there's a modest amount of great NES carts under ten bucks, but once you've picked those up, and eliminated all the sports titles, the prices quickly go upwards. It's hard to "actively" collect as a hobby without shelling out a lot of cash. The scope of the hobby is much narrower in the console collecting world.
Never understood why everyone on the whole planet is trying to collect the NA set, even many Europeans.
Because the vast majority of PAL releases are basically crippled hacks of the NTSC versions. The NSTC versions of the games are definitive, and PAL releases are basically nothing more than a slapped together afterthought.
Haha, spot on, could've not said it better myself. Also, this continued all the way up to until the "HD" generation (PS3).
I've compiled a list:
- because they're babies and like chucking tantrums and whinges for fun
- they don't understand the reality of the market trends
- they're greedy and want everything despite this being an impossibility
- they're being treated unfairly by their surroundings (eg. other collectors or resellers)
- they feel burnout by what life has thrown at them
By the way, there is no right and wrong to the act of whinging. The question should really be "are our whinging productive or counter-productive?" If you whinge on something everyone feels miffed about, I think that can't be all bad. However, whinging on something that it's on a personal level, and noone else feels the same way, then it's probably counterproductive.
Also, there is a difference between making comments like this:
A) "Man, can you all believe these prices??? What is going on?!" "What happened to XXXXX game? OMG the price is crazy now?" "Ugh....collecting NES is getting sooooooo expensive now!"
And this:
See the difference?
I think we can all generally acknowledge that it is getting more expensive and difficult. I think it's even OK to talk about that and discuss some of the reasons why it is happening. I think where we can do better as a community and as individuals, is the following:
* We should all remember these are just video games and life goes on. This applies to everyone.
* We should try not to harass and criticize other people for exactly how they choose to game / collect / fund their hobby / etc.
* We should also try not to crap on threads, even if they are a little redundant. I know it's hard to resist the temptation, but sometimes we just need to roll our eyes and move on, as opposed to letting everyone know how ridiculous we think a thread is. See below for examples:
-- "Ugh. This thread again."
-- "In before the lock"
-- "Here we go again"
I know many of us are guilty of this and it's easy to do, but there are more constructive ways to discourage redundant threads.
The people who whine about price hikes should have to pay original retail price for ALL games, then.
Have fun buying Xenophobe, or Magic Johnson's Fast Break for $60-$80.
That's still cheaper than what NES games were new if you factor in inflation.
And yet new games still cost $60-$80.
I didn't want Xenophobe or Magic Johnson then or now, but if that was the price on mint sealed titles I do want, I'd take it.
Most people don't understand rudimentary business concepts in context of used/collectible markets!
Oh shit I actually just thought of the answer to the question.
Most people don't understand rudimentary business concepts in context of used/collectible markets!
Hahaha... duh!
You just smartened up my answer from the third post! I just said they were stupid and ignorant, haha.
So, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. In that, you echoed what a lot of us have already said, but in a succinct and straight forward, albeit somehwat filled with "jargon", way.
Well done, either way... and I agree with me/you.
Oh shit I actually just thought of the answer to the question.
Most people don't understand rudimentary business concepts in context of used/collectible markets!
Hahaha... duh!
You just smartened up my answer from the third post! I just said they were stupid and ignorant, haha.
So, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. In that, you echoed what a lot of us have already said, but in a succinct and straight forward, albeit somehwat filled with "jargon", way.
Well done, either way... and I agree with me/you.
I hardly make it to the third post.
Oh shit I actually just thought of the answer to the question.
Most people don't understand rudimentary business concepts in context of used/collectible markets!
Hahaha... duh!
You just smartened up my answer from the third post! I just said they were stupid and ignorant, haha.
So, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. In that, you echoed what a lot of us have already said, but in a succinct and straight forward, albeit somehwat filled with "jargon", way.
Well done, either way... and I agree with me/you.
I hardly make it to the third post.
Haha, well... you're still right, and it was well said! Also, I enjoyed the excuse to use the word "succinct".
Video game collecting, by and large, is one of the cheapest hobbies to get in to. Anyone with a part-time job and some free time can have an NES and SMB3 by this weekend. There is also little to no barrier of entry to this hobby; money, knowledge or otherwise. To help illustrate what I mean, I asked my wife this question, as she collects vintage coutour fashion. She stated that no one ever complains about prices there. She believes that is a product of people knowing exactly what they getting in to before they start. Granted, that is significantly more niche, but I think the overall point is valid. People just don't know what they are getting in to when they start.
Generally speaking, I don't see a whole heck of a lot of "whining" from veterans who have be in "the game" from some time. Many of whom don't have anywhere near complete sets. It is mostly from people new to the scene where their initial investment was relatively inexpensive.
Couple that with the fact most people have an emotional attachment to these things and you have a perfect concoction to start the "whining" brew.
Video game collecting, by and large, is one of the cheapest hobbies to get in to.
yeah, that's what has always made my eyes roll about all of it. Its actually a very cheap hobby unless you set out to collect the expensive stuff on purpose. Yet the complaining...
interesting points you raise.
Many other hobbies, or at least, segments of hobbies go through dramatic price spikes at times as well. What's with the man-children in this hobby that can't accept the fact that sometimes certain items get out of reach, and that you are not entitled to be able to afford something?
Discuss. I really don't know what it is about this group. I suspect that its because it skews young and includes some collectors that don't see themselves as such (?) but man, if this place was a physical space I'd pick it up and move it next to a Kleenex factory and a Massengill plant.
I work at a famous credit card company (the one you'd think has more affluent people) and they always whine over their membership fee going up. I think people don't like prices going up in general and it applies to anything. People feel somebody is at fault, or generally feel "betrayed", I dunno.
I am the only one that has ever asked about the damn thing and offered reasonable ebay price (thinking I will have it sooner than if I buy it in ebay, and I would go pick it up personally), but the guy always refuses my offer. Now there are some of these on ebay and at leas one is significantly cheaper, even taking shipping cost on account.
That might be part of it but I think it's a smaller part? I know almost nothing about coin and card collecting but it's quite common to collect sets there too. Maybe not every card or coin ever (in the same way that few or non try for every video game ever), but subsets like say 1870-1910 quarters , or 1957 topps baseball, or whatever...
baseball cards were all about sets. they had freaking checklists in the packs haha
haha Yeah, nut they have like a thousand different sets, not one "north american" set that everyone fights over
If you like baseball cards or most other hobbies you simply don't collect the sets you can't afford. You collect them as they come out when they are cheap or you collect the expensive sets if you are rich.. You don't pick an expensive set and complain that you can't finish it, you just pick another set
Edit With NES games it's basically all or nothing.. You collect the expensive set or you are a wierdo pariah who collects pirate famicom games like me .
edit2: btw, prices are crazy low for super rare games! I love todays prices!
Never understood why everyone on the whole planet is trying to collect the NA set, even many Europeans.
Because the vast majority of PAL releases are basically crippled hacks of the NTSC versions. The NSTC versions of the games are definitive, and PAL releases are basically nothing more than a slapped together afterthought.
Sure, but NTSC sets are too well documented to be very interesting anymore. It'd be a lot more fun around here if more people branched out into uncharted territory.
I sometimes do "whine", but that is because here in Mexico everyone thinks they got damn gold bars instead of games, and sell them even higher than ebay prices. I have seen sellers sit on their merchandise sometimes for years, without accepting any reasonable offers. For example, there is an Atari ET sign that I have an interest in, and the seller has had it up for sale for like 2 years now at the same high price. http://articulo.mercadolibre.com....
I am the only one that has ever asked about the damn thing and offered reasonable ebay price (thinking I will have it sooner than if I buy it in ebay, and I would go pick it up personally), but the guy always refuses my offer. Now there are some of these on ebay and at leas one is significantly cheaper, even taking shipping cost on account.
Oh 2499 Pesos, not 2499 Dollars. I thought Mexico was really crazy for a second there.
I sometimes do "whine", but that is because here in Mexico everyone thinks they got damn gold bars instead of games, and sell them even higher than ebay prices. I have seen sellers sit on their merchandise sometimes for years, without accepting any reasonable offers. For example, there is an Atari ET sign that I have an interest in, and the seller has had it up for sale for like 2 years now at the same high price. http://articulo.mercadolibre.com....
I am the only one that has ever asked about the damn thing and offered reasonable ebay price (thinking I will have it sooner than if I buy it in ebay, and I would go pick it up personally), but the guy always refuses my offer. Now there are some of these on ebay and at leas one is significantly cheaper, even taking shipping cost on account.
Then buy the one online thats cheaper. Dont let that guy off the hook givibg him any money when he changes his mind
I sometimes do "whine", but that is because here in Mexico everyone thinks they got damn gold bars instead of games, and sell them even higher than ebay prices. I have seen sellers sit on their merchandise sometimes for years, without accepting any reasonable offers. For example, there is an Atari ET sign that I have an interest in, and the seller has had it up for sale for like 2 years now at the same high price. http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-554680647-atari-et-d...
I am the only one that has ever asked about the damn thing and offered reasonable ebay price (thinking I will have it sooner than if I buy it in ebay, and I would go pick it up personally), but the guy always refuses my offer. Now there are some of these on ebay and at leas one is significantly cheaper, even taking shipping cost on account.
Then buy the one online thats cheaper. Dont let that guy off the hook givibg him any money when he changes his mind
No way I will buy it at that price he has it. BEFORE the only option in eBay was more or less the same (including shipping), but I was like dude, you have this thing for years now, understand it does not have the value you are giving it... oh well...
Which kind of games? On the tabletop front I'm into Dungeons & Dragons (any edition, I've been playing for 25+ years),
Love me some old-school D&D
Mostly into the novels, but I have a ton of manuals and D&D games (This isn't a complete pic, it was before I was done sorting them). Been reading up on the 1st edition manuals some more, thinking of playing through Pool of Radiance again to write a faq on it.