People really give a shit about this? I find it more odd that instead of replacing a label on a $2 game, that you could just buy one of the other 3 million copies that are in good shape
People really give a shit about this? I find it more odd that instead of replacing a label on a $2 game, that you could just buy one of the other 3 million copies that are in good shape
It is not so much about crappy games as it is about rare ones. (In other words the video is about the process of mimicing a label
rather than the specific games in the video - using cheap ass common games is just a smokescreen.)
Consider these two scenarios:
1) Someone buys a copy of the SNES Earthbound on the cheap that has a damaged label. Someone does a really good copy of the label and replaces it. They then sell it to you as an original (which it is - mostly). You go to resell it and discover the label is a fake. It not only reduces the value immensely but a buyer is naturally going to be suspicious of the cart itslef.)
2) Someone takes a real cart, guts it and puts in a bootleg Earthbound with a faked label. See above scenario but add the fact that everything is fake.
I find no problem with this these are his games he owns them and has a right to do what he pleases with them. It's not like he's reselling them. This will only bug the true collectards. If people want to get in an uproar you don't know how many so called rare NES games I had seen at this past Retro World Expo with shitty repro labels with jacked up sky high prices. This isn't the first time someone has done a video on making replacement labels and won't be the last.
I find no problem with this these are his games he owns them and has a right to do what he pleases with them. It's not like he's reselling them. This will only bug the true collectards. If people want to get in an uproar you don't know how many so called rare NES games I had seen at this past Retro World Expo with shitty repro labels with jacked up sky high prices. This isn't the first time someone has done a video on making replacement labels and won't be the last.
I find no problem with this these are his games he owns them and has a right to do what he pleases with them. It's not like he's reselling them. This will only bug the true collectards. If people want to get in an uproar you don't know how many so called rare NES games I had seen at this past Retro World Expo with shitty repro labels with jacked up sky high prices. This isn't the first time someone has done a video on making replacement labels and won't be the last.
He can make paperweights out of the cartridges if he wants - that is not the point. But he actually doesn't own the rights to the logos and artwork he is copying (it doesn't matter if he sells them or not - or if he only makes 1 copy or 1000). So he could take two real labels that are damaged in diferent areas and cut them in two and make a new label from the two parts. He just can't make a fake one that is either totally or partially faked.
Again, he is talking about the process of how to create a fake rather than the two worthless carts in the video - his choice of those was not an accident but an obvious smokescreen.
what if this guy decides to get out of collecting? he sells off his stuff and they go onto the market. if he did this for a $2 game, whats to say he wont do it for a $100 game.
what if this guy decides to get out of collecting? he sells off his stuff and they go onto the market. if he did this for a $2 game, whats to say he wont do it for a $100 game.
I dont think he will and if he does oh well its not the end of the world. It's only a game not unique fine art. There are more important and pressing matters to worry about in this world than fake repro labels slapped on to old crusty cartridges.
what if this guy decides to get out of collecting? he sells off his stuff and they go onto the market. if he did this for a $2 game, whats to say he wont do it for a $100 game.
I dont think he will and if he does oh well its not the end of the world. It's only a game not unique fine art. There are more important and pressing matters to worry about in this world than fake repro labels slapped on to old crusty cartridges.
it matters to the person who got duped into buying what they thought was a 100% legit game, when the label is fake. would you like to buy a game to find out part of it is fake?
If people want to get in an uproar you don't know how many so called rare NES games I had seen at this past Retro World Expo with shitty repro labels with jacked up sky high prices.
Don't you regularly rail against overpriced games? This is one of the things that contributes to that.
I do but I won't stress over it. Honestly if you spend over a certain amount for a game you should be educated on what is real and what is fake. Do your homework because no so called high quality label with be 100% spot on compared to the original.
Do you know anything about antiques or collecting? Just curious.....
That is like taking a 1960s Fender guitar and stripping it all down and putting all new parts in it......It is just stupid and completely defeats the purpose.
I do but I won't stress over it. Honestly if you spend over a certain amount for a game you should be educated on what is real and what is fake. Do your homework because no so called high quality label with be 100% spot on compared to the original.
but that doesnt make it ok to do that, they are using copyrighted artwork, and creating counterfeit items.
It amazes me that people come to a collector-dominated forum to say how stupid collectors and their preferences are.
I didnt mean offend anyone but a spade is a spade no changing the fact on that. You put the cheese on cracker
You honestly come across as someone who wants to collect and go for a complete set and all that, but realizes they missed the boat when games were a quarter each and now wants to rationalize away the thought of collecting in 2017 and what it takes to spend.
It amazes me that people come to a collector-dominated forum to say how stupid collectors and their preferences are.
I didnt mean offend anyone but a spade is a spade no changing the fact on that. You put the cheese on cracker
No one is impressed by your confrontational attitude, trust me.
Making 1:1 identical reproduction labels harms the hobby, there is no doubt about it. Coming to a place where people are passionate about maininting the integrity of collecting video games and using terms like "collectards" because people are against counterfeits, you wont be around for long.
Honesty the only complete set I'm going after is the for the Atari 5200 because of its small library. I really don't care for a complete set for all of the other platforms I collect for be it the 2600/7800/SMS/NES/TG-16/Genesis/NEO-GEO AES and a lil of everything else. I hope it's a vegetable cracker with sea salt.
collectors of all sorts of classic and rare things have habits of 'restoring' said things. car collectors will replace things like badges and even paint or interior and obviously label it clearly as a restore. furniture collectors may chose to restore or keep the weathered look it depends. same with classic machines like cameras or typewriters or sewing machines. why should it be so taboo to replace a label. if its to the right cart/board. just a thought i dont think i have anywhere else to go with it. good night
collectors of all sorts of classic and rare things have habits of 'restoring' said things. car collectors will replace things like badges and even paint or interior and obviously label it clearly as a restore. furniture collectors may chose to restore or keep the weathered look it depends. same with classic machines like cameras or typewriters or sewing machines. why should it be so taboo to replace a label. if its to the right cart/board. just a thought i dont think i have anywhere else to go with it. good night
In this hobby, the majority of collectors want things authentic. It's akin to coin collecting, which has similar standards.
Not to mention, "restorers" in this hobby tend to forget to mention the "restroration" when they go to sell their items. As for the tired argument of "well, I'll never sell my games," we've seen plenty of longtime collectors hit hard times and sell some of their beloved items, so the idea that every single one of those who "restored" their games will be buried with them is laughable.
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Edit: aaaaand I was right.
People really give a shit about this? I find it more odd that instead of replacing a label on a $2 game, that you could just buy one of the other 3 million copies that are in good shape
It is not so much about crappy games as it is about rare ones. (In other words the video is about the process of mimicing a label
rather than the specific games in the video - using cheap ass common games is just a smokescreen.)
Consider these two scenarios:
1) Someone buys a copy of the SNES Earthbound on the cheap that has a damaged label. Someone does a really good copy of the label and replaces it. They then sell it to you as an original (which it is - mostly). You go to resell it and discover the label is a fake. It not only reduces the value immensely but a buyer is naturally going to be suspicious of the cart itslef.)
2) Someone takes a real cart, guts it and puts in a bootleg Earthbound with a faked label. See above scenario but add the fact that everything is fake.
I find no problem with this these are his games he owns them and has a right to do what he pleases with them. It's not like he's reselling them. This will only bug the true collectards. If people want to get in an uproar you don't know how many so called rare NES games I had seen at this past Retro World Expo with shitty repro labels with jacked up sky high prices. This isn't the first time someone has done a video on making replacement labels and won't be the last.
nice name for half the people on this site.
I find no problem with this these are his games he owns them and has a right to do what he pleases with them. It's not like he's reselling them. This will only bug the true collectards. If people want to get in an uproar you don't know how many so called rare NES games I had seen at this past Retro World Expo with shitty repro labels with jacked up sky high prices. This isn't the first time someone has done a video on making replacement labels and won't be the last.
He can make paperweights out of the cartridges if he wants - that is not the point. But he actually doesn't own the rights to the logos and artwork he is copying (it doesn't matter if he sells them or not - or if he only makes 1 copy or 1000). So he could take two real labels that are damaged in diferent areas and cut them in two and make a new label from the two parts. He just can't make a fake one that is either totally or partially faked.
Again, he is talking about the process of how to create a fake rather than the two worthless carts in the video - his choice of those was not an accident but an obvious smokescreen.
what if this guy decides to get out of collecting? he sells off his stuff and they go onto the market. if he did this for a $2 game, whats to say he wont do it for a $100 game.
I dont think he will and if he does oh well its not the end of the world. It's only a game not unique fine art. There are more important and pressing matters to worry about in this world than fake repro labels slapped on to old crusty cartridges.
what if this guy decides to get out of collecting? he sells off his stuff and they go onto the market. if he did this for a $2 game, whats to say he wont do it for a $100 game.
I dont think he will and if he does oh well its not the end of the world. It's only a game not unique fine art. There are more important and pressing matters to worry about in this world than fake repro labels slapped on to old crusty cartridges.
it matters to the person who got duped into buying what they thought was a 100% legit game, when the label is fake. would you like to buy a game to find out part of it is fake?
If people want to get in an uproar you don't know how many so called rare NES games I had seen at this past Retro World Expo with shitty repro labels with jacked up sky high prices.
Don't you regularly rail against overpriced games? This is one of the things that contributes to that.
It amazes me that people come to a collector-dominated forum to say how stupid collectors and their preferences are.
I didnt mean offend anyone but a spade is a spade no changing the fact on that. You put the cheese on cracker
Do you know anything about antiques or collecting? Just curious.....
That is like taking a 1960s Fender guitar and stripping it all down and putting all new parts in it......It is just stupid and completely defeats the purpose.
I do but I won't stress over it. Honestly if you spend over a certain amount for a game you should be educated on what is real and what is fake. Do your homework because no so called high quality label with be 100% spot on compared to the original.
but that doesnt make it ok to do that, they are using copyrighted artwork, and creating counterfeit items.
It amazes me that people come to a collector-dominated forum to say how stupid collectors and their preferences are.
I didnt mean offend anyone but a spade is a spade no changing the fact on that. You put the cheese on cracker
You honestly come across as someone who wants to collect and go for a complete set and all that, but realizes they missed the boat when games were a quarter each and now wants to rationalize away the thought of collecting in 2017 and what it takes to spend.
How's the salt on that cheese and cracker?
It amazes me that people come to a collector-dominated forum to say how stupid collectors and their preferences are.
I didnt mean offend anyone but a spade is a spade no changing the fact on that. You put the cheese on cracker
No one is impressed by your confrontational attitude, trust me.
Making 1:1 identical reproduction labels harms the hobby, there is no doubt about it. Coming to a place where people are passionate about maininting the integrity of collecting video games and using terms like "collectards" because people are against counterfeits, you wont be around for long.
collectors of all sorts of classic and rare things have habits of 'restoring' said things. car collectors will replace things like badges and even paint or interior and obviously label it clearly as a restore. furniture collectors may chose to restore or keep the weathered look it depends. same with classic machines like cameras or typewriters or sewing machines. why should it be so taboo to replace a label. if its to the right cart/board. just a thought i dont think i have anywhere else to go with it. good night
In this hobby, the majority of collectors want things authentic. It's akin to coin collecting, which has similar standards.
Not to mention, "restorers" in this hobby tend to forget to mention the "restroration" when they go to sell their items. As for the tired argument of "well, I'll never sell my games," we've seen plenty of longtime collectors hit hard times and sell some of their beloved items, so the idea that every single one of those who "restored" their games will be buried with them is laughable.