Next system to boom for collecting?

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  • I'm sticking with PS2. Games have definitely been increasing in price, but no "spike" yet. It's really hard to tell though because even though it may be the most popular system ever, most games were crazy mass produced. You don't find as rare of games on the PS2 and you do say the Wii. I don't think I've seen a title yet that I had to wait for to find as there is usually at least one listing on eBay or Amazon. The Wii, definitely had some titles on the followed searches for months in some cases. Still, I think nostalgia will hit hard on the the PS2 and cause the next big spike.
  • Originally posted by: cirellio



    I don't care to speculate since I am deep into collecting for all of these systems, but I'll make a few observations anyway.



    I agree that PSP will become expensive ... some day. Especially if someone makes something like an HD console that dumps UMDs*. The library has too many exclusive quality RPGs and SHMUPs and too many NeoGeo/Dreamcast/TurboDuo-like games to be cheap forever. Enjoy it while it lasts.



    Dreamcast is well on its way to becoming like Sega CD.

    PS1 is on its way up too. Really helps that it has a stupid number of RPGs, games are in fragile jewel cases and in some instances, cardboard, and it is definitely one of the strongest libraries out there right behind NES and SNES. Plenty of hidden gems and people are sponging up the good stuff every day.



    N64 has already been booming but may have already reached near its ceiling. There was a 'collect the full set' fad/mentality going around for a while ... but the posts related to this around the internet have died down significantly. Good condition CIBs will continue to hold their value and go up, because cardboard. If nostalgic MDs are going to spend money, they are going to spend it on nice CIBs.



    People still seem to be moving over to the Genesis ... so while it's been enjoying a rise in value, it will continue to rise more. Genesis cardboard releases in good shape will someday stop being the same price as their hardcase counterparts and skyrocket.



    Wii U seems tough to find, esp. for decent prices right now ... so Dream is probably right on that front. I admit I still have a hard time caring about collecting much for the Wii U ... especially with some of the same games getting re-released/remastered for the Switch and 3DS. I'm sure a lot of folks feel the same way as I do, but assuming people change their minds about Wii U, it could easily explode someday. Despite being a Nintendo product, it feels awfully niche. That may be the flock mentality right now, which means once somebody manages to start selling Wii U titles for double/triple the prices we're seeing now, people could easily get obsessed with it -- As shallow as it is, rising value increases the desirability -- people may wish they didn't sleep on these games when they were 'only $50.00 a pop'. Does that motivate me to go buy a bunch of Wii U rite nao? Nah. I'm sticking to my credo and only picking up Wii U games I care about if I see them for cheap.



    IMO DS, XBox, PSP, GBA, GB/GBC and Wii are some of the cheapest systems to collect for right now, therefore the safest bet if you're speculating (they can only go up from here). It's very possible to get every 'good' game in these libraries on a shoestring budget ... and I'm enjoying it quite a bit.



    *Understandably, this will be many years from now.



     

     

    CIB GBA are expensive to collect
  • I know wiiU will be valuable but it will never be the area of nes/snes/genny/tg16.



    All the "valuable" games are garbage. Only valuable because of the scarcity, they dont have the "fun game" quotient going for them as well. (Maybe croods or whatever but hello kitty racers? Lol).



    Plus they are disc based. Will they go up in price? Yeah, but they will level off- not continue to go up like cart based systems.
  • Originally posted by: Genesis1985

    Originally posted by: cirellio



    I don't care to speculate since I am deep into collecting for all of these systems, but I'll make a few observations anyway.



    I agree that PSP will become expensive ... some day. Especially if someone makes something like an HD console that dumps UMDs*. The library has too many exclusive quality RPGs and SHMUPs and too many NeoGeo/Dreamcast/TurboDuo-like games to be cheap forever. Enjoy it while it lasts.



    Dreamcast is well on its way to becoming like Sega CD.

    PS1 is on its way up too. Really helps that it has a stupid number of RPGs, games are in fragile jewel cases and in some instances, cardboard, and it is definitely one of the strongest libraries out there right behind NES and SNES. Plenty of hidden gems and people are sponging up the good stuff every day.



    N64 has already been booming but may have already reached near its ceiling. There was a 'collect the full set' fad/mentality going around for a while ... but the posts related to this around the internet have died down significantly. Good condition CIBs will continue to hold their value and go up, because cardboard. If nostalgic MDs are going to spend money, they are going to spend it on nice CIBs.



    People still seem to be moving over to the Genesis ... so while it's been enjoying a rise in value, it will continue to rise more. Genesis cardboard releases in good shape will someday stop being the same price as their hardcase counterparts and skyrocket.



    Wii U seems tough to find, esp. for decent prices right now ... so Dream is probably right on that front. I admit I still have a hard time caring about collecting much for the Wii U ... especially with some of the same games getting re-released/remastered for the Switch and 3DS. I'm sure a lot of folks feel the same way as I do, but assuming people change their minds about Wii U, it could easily explode someday. Despite being a Nintendo product, it feels awfully niche. That may be the flock mentality right now, which means once somebody manages to start selling Wii U titles for double/triple the prices we're seeing now, people could easily get obsessed with it -- As shallow as it is, rising value increases the desirability -- people may wish they didn't sleep on these games when they were 'only $50.00 a pop'. Does that motivate me to go buy a bunch of Wii U rite nao? Nah. I'm sticking to my credo and only picking up Wii U games I care about if I see them for cheap.



    IMO DS, XBox, PSP, GBA, GB/GBC and Wii are some of the cheapest systems to collect for right now, therefore the safest bet if you're speculating (they can only go up from here). It's very possible to get every 'good' game in these libraries on a shoestring budget ... and I'm enjoying it quite a bit.



    *Understandably, this will be many years from now.



     

     

    CIB GBA are expensive to collect



    uh, no not really
  • Originally posted by: Genesis1985

     
    Originally posted by: cirellio



    I don't care to speculate since I am deep into collecting for all of these systems, but I'll make a few observations anyway.



    I agree that PSP will become expensive ... some day. Especially if someone makes something like an HD console that dumps UMDs*. The library has too many exclusive quality RPGs and SHMUPs and too many NeoGeo/Dreamcast/TurboDuo-like games to be cheap forever. Enjoy it while it lasts.



    Dreamcast is well on its way to becoming like Sega CD.

    PS1 is on its way up too. Really helps that it has a stupid number of RPGs, games are in fragile jewel cases and in some instances, cardboard, and it is definitely one of the strongest libraries out there right behind NES and SNES. Plenty of hidden gems and people are sponging up the good stuff every day.



    N64 has already been booming but may have already reached near its ceiling. There was a 'collect the full set' fad/mentality going around for a while ... but the posts related to this around the internet have died down significantly. Good condition CIBs will continue to hold their value and go up, because cardboard. If nostalgic MDs are going to spend money, they are going to spend it on nice CIBs.



    People still seem to be moving over to the Genesis ... so while it's been enjoying a rise in value, it will continue to rise more. Genesis cardboard releases in good shape will someday stop being the same price as their hardcase counterparts and skyrocket.



    Wii U seems tough to find, esp. for decent prices right now ... so Dream is probably right on that front. I admit I still have a hard time caring about collecting much for the Wii U ... especially with some of the same games getting re-released/remastered for the Switch and 3DS. I'm sure a lot of folks feel the same way as I do, but assuming people change their minds about Wii U, it could easily explode someday. Despite being a Nintendo product, it feels awfully niche. That may be the flock mentality right now, which means once somebody manages to start selling Wii U titles for double/triple the prices we're seeing now, people could easily get obsessed with it -- As shallow as it is, rising value increases the desirability -- people may wish they didn't sleep on these games when they were 'only $50.00 a pop'. Does that motivate me to go buy a bunch of Wii U rite nao? Nah. I'm sticking to my credo and only picking up Wii U games I care about if I see them for cheap.



    IMO DS, XBox, PSP, GBA, GB/GBC and Wii are some of the cheapest systems to collect for right now, therefore the safest bet if you're speculating (they can only go up from here). It's very possible to get every 'good' game in these libraries on a shoestring budget ... and I'm enjoying it quite a bit.



    *Understandably, this will be many years from now.



     

     

    CIB GBA are expensive to collect




    I didn't necessarily mean CIB   Most of my GBA (and Game Boy) collection is cart-only, and I'm very okay with that.

     
  • Honestly I think the original Xbox is about to get a boost with Xbox One X having the ability to play them...there are some great rare titles for the Xbox and people are growing tired of unfinished, buggy, broken current gen games.
  • Originally posted by: DreamTR

     
    Originally posted by: Otraotaku

     
    Originally posted by: Baddieboy Holden



    As Dream said, it will most likely be WiiU. There are already a lot of collectors for it, so it'd be no surprise to me if the rarer titles go up in value.

    That and, the set is the shortest for a Nintendo console, so it's likely going to be sought after for that reason alone.

    I had almost forgot about the Wii U. You Could have something there, I jumped on that as soon as the console was discontinued. I only need 4 more, Monster High Ghoul School, Just Dance 2016, Shantae and Steamworld Collection.



    Some of the games on the system have already gone past retail used. (Hello Kitty, Croods, Turbo Mario & Sonic Olympics to name a few) Since there were only so few systems sold the quanity of games will be just as scarce. Think Virtual Boy but Mainstream. Its gonna be something interesting to watch years down the road. Im betting HotWheels and devils third will be Climbing up in price here soon.



     





    The ratio of games that are cheap to that sytem don't really exist. The sports titles are expensive. Going to GameStop and finding games there = a mystery because the selection is so low because of the amount of titles produced. When they are taken off the shelves at GameStop you watch....it's already the highest at this point of any other Nintendo system. Absolutely going to go bonkers eventually. You already have numerous titles +70$ in value. 



    Yep, been saying this for a while. You rarely come across games in the Wild and when you do it's mostly the same 5-10 first party titles. 





     
  • Only Disney infinity and Skylander games are cheap because they require the NFC figures and hardware. Everything else on Wii u is $20-70
  • Originally posted by: MrWunderful



    I know wiiU will be valuable but it will never be the area of nes/snes/genny/tg16.



    All the "valuable" games are garbage. Only valuable because of the scarcity, they dont have the "fun game" quotient going for them as well. (Maybe croods or whatever but hello kitty racers? Lol).



    Plus they are disc based. Will they go up in price? Yeah, but they will level off- not continue to go up like cart based systems.



    I don't think the quality of 'Heavy Hitters' on a system has anything to do with whether or not people will collect for it. Sculptor's Cut is a garbage game by pretty much every measure. VB Waterworld is nothing more than a checkmark on a Virtual Boy set list. Bonk is just a poor NES port of a great Turbografx game. Bronkie the Brontosaurus is a shitty game about an asthmatic dinosaur!



    I think the small library of the WiiU will make it extremely collectable, much like the Virtual Boy set. We held a local poll of fullsetters, and VB was pretty much tied with NES. I think people like to go for small, finishable sets, so expect WiiU 'heavy hitters' to spike quite a bit.
  • Originally posted by: DarkKobold

    Originally posted by: MrWunderful



    I know wiiU will be valuable but it will never be the area of nes/snes/genny/tg16.



    All the "valuable" games are garbage. Only valuable because of the scarcity, they dont have the "fun game" quotient going for them as well. (Maybe croods or whatever but hello kitty racers? Lol).



    Plus they are disc based. Will they go up in price? Yeah, but they will level off- not continue to go up like cart based systems.



    I don't think the quality of 'Heavy Hitters' on a system has anything to do with whether or not people will collect for it. Sculptor's Cut is a garbage game by pretty much every measure. VB Waterworld is nothing more than a checkmark on a Virtual Boy set list. Bonk is just a poor NES port of a great Turbografx game. Bronkie the Brontosaurus is a shitty game about an asthmatic dinosaur!



    I think the small library of the WiiU will make it extremely collectable, much like the Virtual Boy set. We held a local poll of fullsetters, and VB was pretty much tied with NES. I think people like to go for small, finishable sets, so expect WiiU 'heavy hitters' to spike quite a bit.



    so then why is the Dreamcast (~250, relatively small set) still pretty cheap for the most part? It has Cannon Spike, IllBleed and a few shooters, besides that I believe the rest of the set is sub $100, haven't checked in a while
  • Originally posted by: Bert

     
    Originally posted by: DarkKobold

     
    Originally posted by: MrWunderful



    I know wiiU will be valuable but it will never be the area of nes/snes/genny/tg16.



    All the "valuable" games are garbage. Only valuable because of the scarcity, they dont have the "fun game" quotient going for them as well. (Maybe croods or whatever but hello kitty racers? Lol).



    Plus they are disc based. Will they go up in price? Yeah, but they will level off- not continue to go up like cart based systems.



    I don't think the quality of 'Heavy Hitters' on a system has anything to do with whether or not people will collect for it. Sculptor's Cut is a garbage game by pretty much every measure. VB Waterworld is nothing more than a checkmark on a Virtual Boy set list. Bonk is just a poor NES port of a great Turbografx game. Bronkie the Brontosaurus is a shitty game about an asthmatic dinosaur!



    I think the small library of the WiiU will make it extremely collectable, much like the Virtual Boy set. We held a local poll of fullsetters, and VB was pretty much tied with NES. I think people like to go for small, finishable sets, so expect WiiU 'heavy hitters' to spike quite a bit.







    so then why is the Dreamcast (~250, relatively small set) still pretty cheap for the most part? It has Cannon Spike, IllBleed and a few shooters, besides that I believe the rest of the set is sub $100, haven't checked in a while



    Because Nintendo>Sega. No Sega system or game will ever rival the cost of Nintendo. Which is sad because Sega had some of the best games ever!

     
  • Originally posted by: PuppyWaffles



    Because Nintendo>Sega. No Sega system or game will ever rival the cost of Nintendo. Which is sad because Sega had some of the best games ever!

     

    TurboGraphx is a small set (just over 100 I believe) and its got some heavy titles, so its not just nintendo. Maybe because Dreamcast isnt 2D? but then again, neither is the WiiU which people are predicting here. I'm not sure.



    Dreamcast is pretty great, maybe that'd be a fun set to go for



     
  • Originally posted by: Bert

     
    Originally posted by: PuppyWaffles



    Because Nintendo>Sega. No Sega system or game will ever rival the cost of Nintendo. Which is sad because Sega had some of the best games ever!

     

    TurboGraphx is a small set (just over 100 I believe) and its got some heavy titles, so its not just nintendo. Maybe because Dreamcast isnt 2D? but then again, neither is the WiiU which people are predicting here. I'm not sure.



    Dreamcast is pretty great, maybe that'd be a fun set to go for



     

    When I finish my N64 set I plan on going Dreamcast. It is honestly one of my favorite consoles. The games are fun, a lot of them paved the way for modern games, and the console itself is a solid piece of hardware.

    TurboGraphx is a different beast, those prices are what they are because it is a lot rarer than its competition, kinda like the 3DO.

    One thing I could see that the Wii U has in favor is that it is the last physical console. Look how many Switch games are digital only already. The Wii U could potentially be the last "library" you can display.



     
  • I think n64 "boomed" already.
  • Its "grafx"
  • Originally posted by: alekx



    I think n64 "boomed" already.

    I heard this same statement from the owner of a videogame store in my area. He seems to think the big spike already happened these past couple years. GameValueNow has the average loose N64 game going for $13.56. Does anyone see this increasing to $20.00 given the abundance of sports titles and such on the system?



     
  • Originally posted by: Bert



    TurboGraphx is a small set (just over 100 I believe) and its got some heavy titles, so its not just nintendo. Maybe because Dreamcast isnt 2D? but then again, neither is the WiiU which people are predicting here. I'm not sure.



    Dreamcast is pretty great, maybe that'd be a fun set to go for



     



    Turbografx is closer to Neo Geo than to any of the bigger consoles. When you get into the more obscure consoles, the markets just behave differently. I'd say the big differentiator is that you can't just go buy a fullset of Turbo+CD or Neo Geo AES off eBay all the time, even with infinite cash. Sometimes, you just have to sit and wait around for those games to show up, and hope the BIN isn't absurd.



    I think the Dreamcast still has plenty of time to spike. I expect to see Saturn level pricing on those games in 5 years.
  • Originally posted by: WolfEdee

     
    Originally posted by: alekx



    I think n64 "boomed" already.

    I heard this same statement from the owner of a videogame store in my area. He seems to think the big spike already happened these past couple years. GameValueNow has the average loose N64 game going for $13.56. Does anyone see this increasing to $20.00 given the abundance of sports titles and such on the system?



     



    Agreed.



    Especially the higher tier PAL N64 games CIB. Paper Mario, Kirby 64, Conkers, Starcraft and to a lesser extent Mairo Party 3 have dropped by hundreds of $$$ over the past year or 2.

     
  • Its all based on disposable income, age of the collector, system relevance, and other outlets for dollars. When I was a kid in the mid 80's there was Nintendo and playing ball outside with friends. It makes sense that as I hit the early to mid 90's I starting trying to relive my younger days. When 2000 hit I had a lot more disposable income to buy into finishing my NES set. I say that because it is a prime example of why certain systems become "the next big thing"



    So if we look at the current group of people that has the disposable income (yes there will be outliers) but I think a good age would be 28 ( that gets you a few years out of college to get settled), you would see that they collector was born in 1989 and by 10 years of age it was in the PS1 time area with the dawn of the PS2 right around the corner. We are currently seeing price spikes in titles from that system. The N64 was also in the swing of its system, but it didn't have the long impact that the PS1 has.



    Now there are a few systems that spike or will spike due to: rarity, the financial inability to collect the "cool" set, due to certain genre's of games, and collector following. With the Saturn being the example for rarity, Xbox for financial, TG-16 for genre's (TG meets two of the examples really...), and the Gamecube because of Nintendo collectors.



    So what do "I" think? I personally would invest into PS1, and Xbox. I think the last great collectible systems are Xbox/PS2/Gamecube systems. All systems will have a certain level of collectability, but nothing like we see today. I believe the RPGs and SHMUP games will always hold value for any system.
  • Originally posted by: WolfEdee

     
    Originally posted by: alekx



    I think n64 "boomed" already.

    I heard this same statement from the owner of a videogame store in my area. He seems to think the big spike already happened these past couple years. GameValueNow has the average loose N64 game going for $13.56. Does anyone see this increasing to $20.00 given the abundance of sports titles and such on the system?



     

    With N64 I think it still has some room to grow overall, but CiB games are the ones that I think could see increase the most. The N64 boxes don't hold up nearly as well as NES or SNES since they are normally made from lesser quality material and a lot of them don't have inner trays to help protect them. 







     
  • Originally posted by: DeuceGamer

    Originally posted by: WolfEdee

     
    Originally posted by: alekx



    I think n64 "boomed" already.

    I heard this same statement from the owner of a videogame store in my area. He seems to think the big spike already happened these past couple years. GameValueNow has the average loose N64 game going for $13.56. Does anyone see this increasing to $20.00 given the abundance of sports titles and such on the system?



     

    With N64 I think it still has some room to grow overall, but CiB games are the ones that I think could see increase the most. The N64 boxes don't hold up nearly as well as NES or SNES since they are normally made from lesser quality material and a lot of them don't have inner trays to help protect them. 







     



    that trend will not be exclusive to N64
  • Originally posted by: Bert

     
    Originally posted by: DeuceGamer

     
    Originally posted by: WolfEdee

     
    Originally posted by: alekx



    I think n64 "boomed" already.

    I heard this same statement from the owner of a videogame store in my area. He seems to think the big spike already happened these past couple years. GameValueNow has the average loose N64 game going for $13.56. Does anyone see this increasing to $20.00 given the abundance of sports titles and such on the system?



     

    With N64 I think it still has some room to grow overall, but CiB games are the ones that I think could see increase the most. The N64 boxes don't hold up nearly as well as NES or SNES since they are normally made from lesser quality material and a lot of them don't have inner trays to help protect them. 







     







    that trend will not be exclusive to N64



    I also think the N64 boomed already considering how the prices skyrocketed the last 2 years up until this year.  I'm thinking the Gamecube will be next, but I really think the Wii collectors will be the next NES set of collectors because the Wii is the first console of its kind, has sold much more units than the N64 and Gamecube, and has lots of fun games to play.  I think it is just a matter of time before the Wii really picks up.  

     
  • IDK about the Wii, I will say that the Blue system seems much tougher to find than the rest. Right now is a great time to buy. I'm finding Mario and similar games for dirt cheap.
  • When is Atari going to boom? Youd think the desert find would have but not many people know about that... just the myth.
  • Atari boomed already and died.
  • Originally posted by: Loxx O)))

    When is Atari going to boom?



    1999
  • So $5 is max for Atari?
  • Originally posted by: Loxx O)))



    So $5 is max for Atari?

    Holy shit have Atari carts really gone up to $5 now? I'm calling it, guys. The Atari bubble is about to burst.

     
  • I think if a HD PS1 was to be made like all the HDMI nes consoles, PS1 would shoot up. Of course this console would have to do magic to ps1 textures, similar to how ps1 in emulated on a computer.



    The other thing I noticed is that sometimes games shoot up because it could be a early work by a popular creator, developer or series. And sometimes stuff like that is hard to predict. I think a couple examples of this could be Shadow Tower for PS1 or Torneko for PS1. Another example is klonoa, it has been pretty hot recently and it seems to be bleeding over to it 2 GBA games.
  • Originally posted by: Bert

     
    Originally posted by: DeuceGamer

     
    Originally posted by: WolfEdee

     
    Originally posted by: alekx



    I think n64 "boomed" already.

    I heard this same statement from the owner of a videogame store in my area. He seems to think the big spike already happened these past couple years. GameValueNow has the average loose N64 game going for $13.56. Does anyone see this increasing to $20.00 given the abundance of sports titles and such on the system?



     

    With N64 I think it still has some room to grow overall, but CiB games are the ones that I think could see increase the most. The N64 boxes don't hold up nearly as well as NES or SNES since they are normally made from lesser quality material and a lot of them don't have inner trays to help protect them. 







     







    that trend will not be exclusive to N64



    While this is true, I think it's especially true for the N64 due to the boxes not holding up nearly as well.

     
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