[Night 8] Werewolf XI: Welcome to the Negaverse

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  • Originally posted by: wasg13

    Originally posted by: behemos

     
    Originally posted by: wasg13



    Ok so going wih facts, since I'm not going back but if someone wants to look to see who said town has nabbed a day 1 wolf lynch they are flat out lying the results over past 10 games on day 1 lynchings are

    game 1: mod kill town

    game 2: town lynch

    game 3: town lynch

    game 4: no lynch

    game 5: town lynch

    game 6: no lynch

    game 7: no lynch

    game 8: no lynch

    game 9: town lynch

    game 10: town lynch



    so whoever did say we have gotten a wolf on day 1 lynch or said 1 or 2 since i remember someone saying that i would love to hear your reason for pushing that as that seems wolfish to me. that is if i'm recalling correctly

    other facts besides vectrex and this was with a two game gap no person has ever been back to back games as wolf vectrex was a wolf in 7 then again in game 10 but didn't play game 8 or 9



    So if we do decide to lynch someone today I will not vote for myself, nesfanatic, or gloves based off the odds being low, can't mean they aren't one but odds say we shouldn't be.



    also in the last two games at least 1 new person has been a wolf, (gloves and bert new guys, glove was wolf, before that we had 5 new guys and fluffy was a wolf) so looking at hogie, hybrid, or puppywaffles to being a wolf in this game, statically speaking.



    bronty and limbofunk are also on radar as in 5 games that each have played neither have been a wolf yet, bronty has been mostly vt whereas limbofunk started as an indy. behemos and stryphos are each at 4 without being a wolf either.



    these are just things based on previous games I have noticed so pointing out what I have seen, can any of it be true IDK only true fact I have is we never bagged a wolf day 1. Unless someone shows me otherwise, also going to go back and see if i can find the person who said we have bagged a wolf before.







    I said a wolf was nabbed once. I really thought one had been. Could've sworn someone said that. But I didn't look back so I was wrong. Not lying per se, just mistaken.





    I mean technically it is a lie, but one from a mistaken fact, also just pointing it out so people aren't like oh we've gotten on before on day one we can do it again.

  • Originally posted by: behemos

    Anyway, we're all pretty divided on lynching. So let's adopt Gloves' plan and see what the night roles yield. Maybe we'll strike gold.



    That said, let's hope the night roles have some good hunches.





    Yeah I think I agree here.

    Originally posted by: Gloves



    I know that I am not clear. I'm not saying drop your guard on me. I'm saying let me solidify a plan, and we follow it.

    Step two of the plan depends on night 1.

    Trust me. No day 1 lynch.



    so you'll elaborate day 2 is what you're saying? As long as we don't lynch today?
  • Pretty sure I'm picking up what Gloves is putting down. Though if it's what I think, there still aren't any guarantees we'll be saddled with solid leads Day 2.
  • Also I have two targets I think our tracker needs to look at. I hope he picks one of them.
  • Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers



    *Town buys in*

    *Wolves kill Doug night one**







    I'm all for nominating a town "leader", I've suggested it many times.  But it requires someone being in the clear, which no-one is at this point







    I know that I am not clear. I'm not saying drop your guard on me. I'm saying let me solidify a plan, and we follow it. Step two of the plan depends on night 1. Trust me. No day 1 lynch.

    You are defnitely trying to get yourself killed tonight



    Priest I suggest you consider protecting him
  • Originally posted by: Bert

    Originally posted by: behemos

    Anyway, we're all pretty divided on lynching. So let's adopt Gloves' plan and see what the night roles yield. Maybe we'll strike gold.



    That said, let's hope the night roles have some good hunches.





    Yeah I think I agree here.

    Originally posted by: Gloves



    I know that I am not clear. I'm not saying drop your guard on me. I'm saying let me solidify a plan, and we follow it.

    Step two of the plan depends on night 1.

    Trust me. No day 1 lynch.



    so you'll elaborate day 2 is what you're saying? As long as we don't lynch today?





    I don't know that I can elaborate on anything until we see day 2. Night 1 needs to happen. I'm certainly not saying that I will personally have some magic revelation, so please don't expect some miracle.

    I just need you to gamble on trusting me and believe 2 things.

    I am town, and I want town to win, whether I'm around for it or not.
  • If we're not doing a lynch today, I suggest voting me up as bait. We'd have nothing to lose. Unless a townie foolishly finished me off (don't do that)
  • Originally posted by: Brock Landers

    Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers



    *Town buys in*

    *Wolves kill Doug night one**







    I'm all for nominating a town "leader", I've suggested it many times.  But it requires someone being in the clear, which no-one is at this point







    I know that I am not clear. I'm not saying drop your guard on me. I'm saying let me solidify a plan, and we follow it. Step two of the plan depends on night 1. Trust me. No day 1 lynch.

    You are defnitely trying to get yourself killed tonight



    Priest I suggest you consider protecting him





    Agreed. I doubt there was going to be a lynch anyway. I don't think he had to come out quite so hard there.
  • Originally posted by: Brock Landers

    Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers



    *Town buys in*

    *Wolves kill Doug night one**







    I'm all for nominating a town "leader", I've suggested it many times.  But it requires someone being in the clear, which no-one is at this point







    I know that I am not clear. I'm not saying drop your guard on me. I'm saying let me solidify a plan, and we follow it. Step two of the plan depends on night 1. Trust me. No day 1 lynch.

    You are defnitely trying to get yourself killed tonight



    Priest I suggest you consider protecting him





    The priest should protect themselves if they can. I am not as important as they are. Don't protect me, just go forward with my plan.
  • There's been a lot of "trust me" so far. We can't trust anyone.



    Realistically, lynching someone day 1 probably doesn't work. But if it does its a huge win. Its swinging for the fences, versus trying to get a base hit. Both are legitimate plays.
  • Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers

     
    Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers



    *Town buys in*

    *Wolves kill Doug night one**







    I'm all for nominating a town "leader", I've suggested it many times.  But it requires someone being in the clear, which no-one is at this point







    I know that I am not clear. I'm not saying drop your guard on me. I'm saying let me solidify a plan, and we follow it. Step two of the plan depends on night 1. Trust me. No day 1 lynch.

    You are defnitely trying to get yourself killed tonight



    Priest I suggest you consider protecting him







    The priest should protect themselves if they can. I am not as important as they are. Don't protect me, just go forward with my plan.

    The odds the priest gets hit in day 1 are pretty slim.  They might be better off doing it day 2



     
  • Originally posted by: Brock Landers

    If we're not doing a lynch today, I suggest voting me up as bait. We'd have nothing to lose. Unless a townie foolishly finished me off (don't do that)





    Don't do this. No votes. No lynch.

    Nobody on town vote. 100% across the board. Do not vote if you are town.

    If you vote today, town will assume e you are a wolf. That way, it's simple. DO NOT VOTE IF YOU ARE TOWN.

    Odds are there will be zero votes, with no wolves revealing themselves, but more importantly, Brock will be alive.
  • And I'm not saying they have to do it, but even putting doubt in the wolves' mind makes you a less attractive target. Hence I why said consider
  • Like 10 of you guys have only posted once or twice. And obviously some of you are townies. How bout posting some and throwing out some thoughts? You can't ALL be trying to protect yourselves by saying zilch.



    Joining a game to NOT play has always boggled my mind.
  • Is it possible Gloves has some crazy "Skull kid"-like role and he needs something as extreme as a day with no votes to awaken/activate/whatever?
  • Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers



    If we're not doing a lynch today, I suggest voting me up as bait. We'd have nothing to lose. Unless a townie foolishly finished me off (don't do that)







    Don't do this. No votes. No lynch. Nobody on town vote. 100% across the board. Do not vote if you are town. If you vote today, town will assume e you are a wolf. That way, it's simple. DO NOT VOTE IF YOU ARE TOWN. Odds are there will be zero votes, with no wolves revealing themselves, but more importantly, Brock will be alive.



    Dude give it a rest already, we get your point.   



    I've already voted.   I am town.   



    If I was a wolf, I'd either kill you, or me, but probably you, so that town kills you tomorrow when they see my death tonight.

     
  • Originally posted by: behemos



    Like 10 of you guys have only posted once or twice. And obviously some of you are townies. How bout posting some and throwing out some thoughts? You can't ALL be trying to protect yourselves by saying zilch.



    Joining a game to NOT play has always boggled my mind.



    Super frustrating.

     
  • Originally posted by: Brock Landers



    Is it possible Gloves has some crazy "Skull kid"-like role and he needs something as extreme as a day with no votes to awaken/activate/whatever?



    interesting.   I certainly won't be removing my vote.

     
  • Originally posted by: Bronty

     
    Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers



    If we're not doing a lynch today, I suggest voting me up as bait. We'd have nothing to lose. Unless a townie foolishly finished me off (don't do that)







    Don't do this. No votes. No lynch. Nobody on town vote. 100% across the board. Do not vote if you are town. If you vote today, town will assume e you are a wolf. That way, it's simple. DO NOT VOTE IF YOU ARE TOWN. Odds are there will be zero votes, with no wolves revealing themselves, but more importantly, Brock will be alive.



    Dude give it a rest already, we get your point.   



    I've already voted.   I am town.   



    If I was a wolf, I'd either kill you, or me, but probably you, so that town kills you tomorrow when they see my death tonight.

     



    typo fix:



    If I was a wolf, I'd either kill you, or me, but probably me, so that town kills you tomorrow when they see my death tonight.

     
  • Originally posted by: behemos



    Like 10 of you guys have only posted once or twice. And obviously some of you are townies. How bout posting some and throwing out some thoughts? You can't ALL be trying to protect yourselves by saying zilch.



    Joining a game to NOT play has always boggled my mind.

    Sorry I've been silent today, we are slammed at work.



     
  • Originally posted by: Brock Landers



    Is it possible Gloves has some crazy "Skull kid"-like role and he needs something as extreme as a day with no votes to awaken/activate/whatever?





    you really might be on to something.   Nobody should care quite this much about day 1 lynch vs no lynch.
  • Originally posted by: behemos

    Like 10 of you guys have only posted once or twice. And obviously some of you are townies. How bout posting some and throwing out some thoughts? You can't ALL be trying to protect yourselves by saying zilch.



    Joining a game to NOT play has always boggled my mind.





    I can at least vouch for hogie: he really did JUST have a baby, and is quite busy with that. He does intend to join the game more actively soonish, but that's why he's not around right now.
  • dragoon/barnes - can we get a vote count / confirmation of my vote being eligible now?
  • I don't know why I have to keep typing this, but no lynch at any point in the game=taking away the only real weapon that town has. I say at the very least, take Brock's idea and go with a random vote.
  • Originally posted by: Bronty

    Originally posted by: Brock Landers



    Is it possible Gloves has some crazy "Skull kid"-like role and he needs something as extreme as a day with no votes to awaken/activate/whatever?





    you really might be on to something.   Nobody should care quite this much about day 1 lynch vs no lynch.





    Good point. We've all stated our preferences. But to continually faceblast the thread, pleading for absolutely no votes.

    If the vote count comes back blank for whatever reason, I'm throwing one in the ring. His dedication to there being no votes at all seems kind of off.
  • I dont love the idea of trusting Gloves (he stabbed my back twice in Survivor) but this is a TEAM game. He may be trying to help the town with a win. That being said if we don't lynch first day and we get nothing I think we can all agree he gets lynched next.
  • If that is a concern, behemos, please feel free to toss out a token vote.
  • Originally posted by: PuppyWaffles

    I dont love the idea of trusting Gloves (he stabbed my back twice in Survivor) but this is a TEAM game. He may be trying to help the town with a win. That being said if we don't lynch first day and we get nothing I think we can all agree he gets lynched next.





    This mentality is why everyone is always quiet, and nobody puts forth plans, and town loses.
  • Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: PuppyWaffles



    I dont love the idea of trusting Gloves (he stabbed my back twice in Survivor) but this is a TEAM game. He may be trying to help the town with a win. That being said if we don't lynch first day and we get nothing I think we can all agree he gets lynched next.







    This mentality is why everyone is always quiet, and nobody puts forth plans, and town loses.

    The mentality of giving your plan a chance? You're right, maybe we should just skip ahead and vote now...



     
  • Originally posted by: PuppyWaffles

    Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: PuppyWaffles



    I dont love the idea of trusting Gloves (he stabbed my back twice in Survivor) but this is a TEAM game. He may be trying to help the town with a win. That being said if we don't lynch first day and we get nothing I think we can all agree he gets lynched next.







    This mentality is why everyone is always quiet, and nobody puts forth plans, and town loses.

    The mentality of giving your plan a chance? You're right, maybe we should just skip ahead and vote now...



     





    You know exactly what I mean.

    The mentality that if someone puts forth a plan and it doesn't pay immediate dividends, then we lynch that person just for trying.

    Again, long game. If you lynch we just because nobody with a role reveals themselves tomorrow, then town deserves to lose.
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