[Night 8] Werewolf XI: Welcome to the Negaverse

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  • Originally posted by: Bronty



    As for NED, I dunno wtf that was all about. If he's the seer it seems crazy to out himself. If he's a wolf it seems crazy to make that claim. I have to think that he has some piece of info that the rest of us don't, so I can't trust him at this time.





    I'm just tagging this bronty post cause i see that he is on but IDK what his status is with the cloak and Dra600n made no updates abut him so bronty if you can post in here do it.

  • Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: wasg13

     
    Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers

     
    Originally posted by: Gloves



    NED. You have claimed to be the seer openly, and you are still alive.



    Who have you looked at and what have you learned?

    I would assume he is actually vanilla, per the doll.  Which would make sense, no-one would name drop or role drop like he did unless it was to force the wolves to target him instead of someone else.  Assuming the doll was a wolf ability, mission accomplished.



     



    Frankly it's fishy to me, the whole thing. I know you've stated before that Dragoon's not likely to straight up do the same thing as the last game, but seeing as last round the wolves (JMBarnes) were able to make the Pokemon account say any player's name and a pokemon name, this could be similar. 



    But, that's presumptuous of me. 



    So I'd like NED to confirm what's going on if he'd be so inclined.



    I'm taking a stab here that he lied, and hoped that the wolves would attack him, and his death wouldn't hurt the town as he is VT and thats a job of VT is to be eatten by wolfs to save the roled players.

     



    That's my thinking also.



    Well, if wolves or an indie have some manner of "out a person publicly each night" ability, that'd kinda suck... a seer of their own?

    Is that not what I just said? \ 



     
  • Originally posted by: wasg13

     
    Originally posted by: Bronty



    As for NED, I dunno wtf that was all about. If he's the seer it seems crazy to out himself. If he's a wolf it seems crazy to make that claim. I have to think that he has some piece of info that the rest of us don't, so I can't trust him at this time.





    I'm just tagging this bronty post cause i see that he is on but IDK what his status is with the cloak and Dra600n made no updates abut him so bronty if you can post in here do it.

  • Originally posted by: Brock Landers

     
    Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: wasg13

     
    Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers

     
    Originally posted by: Gloves



    NED. You have claimed to be the seer openly, and you are still alive.



    Who have you looked at and what have you learned?

    I would assume he is actually vanilla, per the doll.  Which would make sense, no-one would name drop or role drop like he did unless it was to force the wolves to target him instead of someone else.  Assuming the doll was a wolf ability, mission accomplished.



     



    Frankly it's fishy to me, the whole thing. I know you've stated before that Dragoon's not likely to straight up do the same thing as the last game, but seeing as last round the wolves (JMBarnes) were able to make the Pokemon account say any player's name and a pokemon name, this could be similar. 



    But, that's presumptuous of me. 



    So I'd like NED to confirm what's going on if he'd be so inclined.



    I'm taking a stab here that he lied, and hoped that the wolves would attack him, and his death wouldn't hurt the town as he is VT and thats a job of VT is to be eatten by wolfs to save the roled players.

     



    That's my thinking also.



    Well, if wolves or an indie have some manner of "out a person publicly each night" ability, that'd kinda suck... a seer of their own?

    Is that not what I just said? \ 



     



    Completely different in all manners shape and size.

     
  • Originally posted by: wasg13

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers

     
    Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: wasg13

     
    Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers

     
    Originally posted by: Gloves



    NED. You have claimed to be the seer openly, and you are still alive.



    Who have you looked at and what have you learned?

    I would assume he is actually vanilla, per the doll.  Which would make sense, no-one would name drop or role drop like he did unless it was to force the wolves to target him instead of someone else.  Assuming the doll was a wolf ability, mission accomplished.



     



    Frankly it's fishy to me, the whole thing. I know you've stated before that Dragoon's not likely to straight up do the same thing as the last game, but seeing as last round the wolves (JMBarnes) were able to make the Pokemon account say any player's name and a pokemon name, this could be similar. 



    But, that's presumptuous of me. 



    So I'd like NED to confirm what's going on if he'd be so inclined.



    I'm taking a stab here that he lied, and hoped that the wolves would attack him, and his death wouldn't hurt the town as he is VT and thats a job of VT is to be eatten by wolfs to save the roled players.

     



    That's my thinking also.



    Well, if wolves or an indie have some manner of "out a person publicly each night" ability, that'd kinda suck... a seer of their own?

    Is that not what I just said? \ 



     



    Completely different in all manners shape and size.

    lmao



    Brock - "NED wanted to be targetted so only a VT would die, not a role"

    Gloves - "Fishy"

    wasg - "NED wanted to be targetted so only a VT would die, not a role"

    Gloves - "That is what I am thinking too"



     
  • Originally posted by: Brock Landers

     
    Originally posted by: wasg13

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers

     
    Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: wasg13

     
    Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers

     
    Originally posted by: Gloves



    NED. You have claimed to be the seer openly, and you are still alive.



    Who have you looked at and what have you learned?

    I would assume he is actually vanilla, per the doll.  Which would make sense, no-one would name drop or role drop like he did unless it was to force the wolves to target him instead of someone else.  Assuming the doll was a wolf ability, mission accomplished.



     



    Frankly it's fishy to me, the whole thing. I know you've stated before that Dragoon's not likely to straight up do the same thing as the last game, but seeing as last round the wolves (JMBarnes) were able to make the Pokemon account say any player's name and a pokemon name, this could be similar. 



    But, that's presumptuous of me. 



    So I'd like NED to confirm what's going on if he'd be so inclined.



    I'm taking a stab here that he lied, and hoped that the wolves would attack him, and his death wouldn't hurt the town as he is VT and thats a job of VT is to be eatten by wolfs to save the roled players.

     



    That's my thinking also.



    Well, if wolves or an indie have some manner of "out a person publicly each night" ability, that'd kinda suck... a seer of their own?

    Is that not what I just said? \ 



     



    Completely different in all manners shape and size.

    lmao



    Brock - "NED wanted to be targetted so only a VT would die, not a role"

    Gloves - "Fishy"

    wasg - "NED wanted to be targetted so only a VT would die, not a role"

    Gloves - "That is what I am thinking too"



     



    Its a bonding thing between wolfs, me and him have it, me and you have it

  • Originally posted by: Brock Landers

     
    Originally posted by: wasg13

     
    Originally posted by: Bronty



    As for NED, I dunno wtf that was all about. If he's the seer it seems crazy to out himself. If he's a wolf it seems crazy to make that claim. I have to think that he has some piece of info that the rest of us don't, so I can't trust him at this time.





    I'm just tagging this bronty post cause i see that he is on but IDK what his status is with the cloak and Dra600n made no updates abut him so bronty if you can post in here do it.

  • Originally posted by: Brock Landers

     
    Originally posted by: wasg13

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers

     
    Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: wasg13

     
    Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers

     
    Originally posted by: Gloves



    NED. You have claimed to be the seer openly, and you are still alive.



    Who have you looked at and what have you learned?

    I would assume he is actually vanilla, per the doll.  Which would make sense, no-one would name drop or role drop like he did unless it was to force the wolves to target him instead of someone else.  Assuming the doll was a wolf ability, mission accomplished.



     



    Frankly it's fishy to me, the whole thing. I know you've stated before that Dragoon's not likely to straight up do the same thing as the last game, but seeing as last round the wolves (JMBarnes) were able to make the Pokemon account say any player's name and a pokemon name, this could be similar. 



    But, that's presumptuous of me. 



    So I'd like NED to confirm what's going on if he'd be so inclined.



    I'm taking a stab here that he lied, and hoped that the wolves would attack him, and his death wouldn't hurt the town as he is VT and thats a job of VT is to be eatten by wolfs to save the roled players.

     



    That's my thinking also.



    Well, if wolves or an indie have some manner of "out a person publicly each night" ability, that'd kinda suck... a seer of their own?

    Is that not what I just said? \ 



     



    Completely different in all manners shape and size.

    lmao



    Brock - "NED wanted to be targetted so only a VT would die, not a role"

    Gloves - "Fishy"

    wasg - "NED wanted to be targetted so only a VT would die, not a role"

    Gloves - "That is what I am thinking too"



     



    It seemed fishy to me, you explained it, wasg did so also, so I figured "hey, makes sense". I should have tossed in a "this is what I think NOW also". You both put forth a good point, and it makes sense.

     

  • Originally posted by: wasg13



    Is bronty back or no amd cant talk today dragoon and word on kokiri



    I sent him a little message with the werewolf message, so hopefully soon.


  • Originally posted by: dra600n

     
    Originally posted by: wasg13



    Is bronty back or no amd cant talk today dragoon and word on kokiri



    I sent him a little message with the werewolf message, so hopefully soon.

     



    I assume thats all about kokiri

    and you are giving nothing about bronty who may be in a universe where mustache rides are frowned upon.

     
  • Well I don't know how that could have gone worse. Our priest is dead, either from wolves or an Indy. I just wonder if that it was wolves, did they somehow know geg was the priest and how? They didn't even try to go for ned, likely because they knew he would be protected, and got our priest. If an Indy did it, I don't know if they knew either, but they obviously aren't on our side.



    My only thoughts on nesfanatic is that he is town, but needs to explain why he's learned nothing if he's the seer. I don't know if I trust that creepy doll thing "hinting" he's vanilla.



    Also is kokiri still playing?
  • MBC read the post like 3 back that's dra600ns, he tried getting in touch with him but nothing so far, guessing we are going to get vectrex in as a replacement if we don't hear from him today.
  • Originally posted by: wasg13

    MBC read the post like 3 back that's dra600ns, he tried getting in touch with him but nothing so far, guessing we are going to get vectrex in as a replacement if we don't hear from him today.





    Yeah, saw right after I posted.
  • Originally posted by: Gloves



    It seemed fishy to me, you explained it, wasg did so also, so I figured "hey, makes sense". I should have tossed in a "this is what I think NOW also". You both put forth a good point, and it makes sense.

     

    Uh huh...



    Anyways
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers

    Well, dra6oon and jm could throw in all sorts of crazy shit, but we're probably working with something along these lines:





    Wolf (hides bodies or something so we don't know anything about the deceased)

    Wolf (can't be tracked)

    Wolf (comes back town)

    Wolf - Exposes player role/alignment publicly?

    5th(??) Wolf (???)



    Independant - Exposes player role/alignment publicly?

    2nd (??) Indendant (?)



    Vanilla town

    Vanilla town

    Vanilla town

    Vanilla town

    Vanilla town

    Vanilla town

    Vanilla town

    Priest - GEG

    Tracker (follows a player, sees who or what they interact with at night)

    Seer (sees alignment or part of role or something)

    Neighbors - Hybrid

    Neighbors - ??

    Some crazy new shit

    Some crazy new shit



    I'd say its a 90% chance the wolves targetted NED.  A hypothetical indy who wanted him dead would think it too risky to target a player who might be killed that night.  Which means there is a chance the indy/indies are not a direct threat to us, or are a lesser threat at the moment
  • Originally posted by: Brock Landers

    Originally posted by: Gloves



    It seemed fishy to me, you explained it, wasg did so also, so I figured "hey, makes sense". I should have tossed in a "this is what I think NOW also". You both put forth a good point, and it makes sense.

     

    Uh huh...



    Anyways
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers

    Well, dra6oon and jm could throw in all sorts of crazy shit, but we're probably working with something along these lines:





    Wolf (hides bodies or something so we don't know anything about the deceased)

    Wolf (can't be tracked)

    Wolf (comes back town)

    Wolf - Exposes player role/alignment publicly?

    5th(??) Wolf (???)



    Independant - Exposes player role/alignment publicly?

    2nd (??) Indendant (?)



    Vanilla town

    Vanilla town

    Vanilla town

    Vanilla town

    Vanilla town

    Vanilla town

    Vanilla town

    Priest - GEG

    Tracker (follows a player, sees who or what they interact with at night)

    Seer (sees alignment or part of role or something)

    Neighbors - Hybrid

    Neighbors - ??

    Some crazy new shit

    Some crazy new shit



    I'd say its a 90% chance the wolves targetted NED.  A hypothetical indy who wanted him dead would think it too risky to target a player who might be killed that night.  Which means there is a chance the indy/indies are not a direct threat to us, or are a lesser threat at the moment





    So your saying the wolves did target nesfanatic, but geg was killed protecting him?
  • Hmm, no that wouldnt make sense. An unblockedable kill AND some sort of role reveal? Too overpowered. No I'm thinking they can use a night ability and it doesn't have to be used on a the same target as the kill.
  • Originally posted by: Brock Landers

    Hmm, no that wouldnt make sense. An unblockedable kill AND some sort of role reveal? Too overpowered. No I'm thinking they can use a night ability and it doesn't have to be used on a the same target as the kill.





    That was my concerns with that theory. You could be right. But I thought wolves could only agree to perform one action a night. That's why I assumed the first night was ended early and there was no kill. I thought the night ended early because the wolves decided to do that instead of kill one of us.
  • Have you ever been a wolf? Every night is Christmas because you get to murder someone. You don't give that up. Plus, that would be a horrible strategy. No, definitely a non-wolf who ended the night so there was no kill



    There is absolutely precedent for wolves being able to target one player with a kill and another with an ability. Like, when we targetted NED with mind control each night, but killed someone else
  • Originally posted by: Brock Landers

    Have you ever been a wolf? Every night is Christmas because you get to murder someone. You don't give that up. Plus, that would be a horrible strategy. No, definitely a non-wolf who ended the night so there was no kill



    There is absolutely precedent for wolves being able to target one player with a kill and another with an ability. Like, when we targetted NED with mind control each night, but killed someone else





    Lol yeah I've been a wolf. I couldn't remember if we could use powers other than a kill at nights. We really need more people's perspective on last night's events.
  • Originally posted by: wasg13

    Originally posted by: NESking80

     
    Originally posted by: Limbofunk



    Alrighty, who wants to chime in as Hybrid's neighbor?







    me, hybrid can confirm.





    Hybrids dead he can't confirm it now

  • K so NED is the Seer, but could not see anything and is still alive.

    How about the info you have Gloves?

    Are you able to tell us anything yet?
  • @ Dragoon. When/where did you reveal hybrids roll to us? I must have missed it.
  • Originally posted by: ne$_pimp



    K so NED is the Seer, but could not see anything and is still alive.

    How about the info you have Gloves?

    Are you able to tell us anything yet?



    We do not know that NED is the ACTUAL Seer.

     
  • Originally posted by: wasg13

     
    Originally posted by: Bronty



    As for NED, I dunno wtf that was all about. If he's the seer it seems crazy to out himself. If he's a wolf it seems crazy to make that claim. I have to think that he has some piece of info that the rest of us don't, so I can't trust him at this time.





    I'm just tagging this bronty post cause i see that he is on but IDK what his status is with the cloak and Dra600n made no updates abut him so bronty if you can post in here do it.

  • Originally posted by: Hogie1418

     
    Originally posted by: ne$_pimp



    K so NED is the Seer, but could not see anything and is still alive.

    How about the info you have Gloves?

    Are you able to tell us anything yet?



    We do not know that NED is the ACTUAL Seer.

     



    I sure as hell hope he's not the seer.   If he's the seer and outed, and our priest is dead, that's no bueno.

     
  • Okay so this is going to sound crazy and potentially its stupid, but I want to hear other's thoughts on it, and whether I'm missing something obvious.



    Is it worth lynching NESfanatic to find out if Mr History Doll tells the truth or can lie?



    If NED is the seer, well he's a dead duck tonight anyways, given the priest is gone. So not a big loss. If NED is Vanilla as per Mr History Doll, not a big loss.



    EIther way we get a hard fact about Mr History Doll.



    THoughts?
  • Originally posted by: Bronty



    Okay so this is going to sound crazy and potentially its stupid, but I want to hear other's thoughts on it, and whether I'm missing something obvious.



    Is it worth lynching NESfanatic to find out if Mr History Doll tells the truth or can lie?



    If NED is the seer, well he's a dead duck tonight anyways, given the priest is gone. So not a big loss. If NED is Vanilla as per Mr History Doll, not a big loss.



    EIther way we get a hard fact about Mr History Doll.



    THoughts?



    (ie. we learn whether Mr History Doll lies or tells truth)

     
  • and yeah obviously that puts us down a man. But is that worth if we can know, for the entire rest of the game, whether or not Mr History Doll is a wolf mouthpiece?
  • I take one 600 mile drive and our priest dies? What the hell?

    So its a lot to take in bit after reading everything this is my theory, and someone chime in if I missed something or any rules prevent it from working.

    Someone said the doll was a wolf thing (odd you'd know that immediately) that could be a trap or a clue. What if NED is a wolf and used the doll as a trick to play innocent. The real seer will definitely not come forward now. If he was a wolf and the doll lies about a role then he would use it on himself. It doesn't add up how hard he tried for that cloak...



    GEG is dead, Doner wanted revenge. I'll let that sink in.



    Also Gloves, where is that info we were promised?



    Everyone needs to reevaluate all the old posts with the new info.
  • Originally posted by: Bronty



    Okay so this is going to sound crazy and potentially its stupid, but I want to hear other's thoughts on it, and whether I'm missing something obvious.



    Is it worth lynching NESfanatic to find out if Mr History Doll tells the truth or can lie?



    If NED is the seer, well he's a dead duck tonight anyways, given the priest is gone. So not a big loss. If NED is Vanilla as per Mr History Doll, not a big loss.



    EIther way we get a hard fact about Mr History Doll.



    THoughts?





    Look, I told you guys I didn't trust him last round and our priest died after he was splashed with what I assume was holy water to save him. At least this time we will learn something. I doubt he us the seer, I think he just really wanted that cloak.



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