I guess the question is experts in what (as I'm not familiar with the aero fighters 3 story)? Experts in games that don't know about printing could be fooled into thinking a digital print is offset. Someone who knows how to differentiate them under magnification won't be fooled as long as the counterfeit is actually digital.
If its a legit looking offset counterfeit, everybody's fucked. But, chances are strong that the fakes are digital prints.
There was a guy who had a case pak of USA "Aero Fighters 3" and sold a few for 30K and they were authenticated by Neo Geo "experts." I use this term because I am pretty good at finding fakes of Neo stuff but if I have to open it it's tough. With these there look exact. Nothing would deter from them being real, but then they were found out that the guy found a way to make them (some place that was related to the whole Arcade! Ray Young saga (KOF 2000 USA was next). The guy claimed to work at SNk a long time ago and had a bunch of stuff but he's just perfect at making replicas. Knowing this I would be nervous completely when you figure out these games are by region, so he had a perfect Aero Fighters 3 with Sonic Wings 3 PCB. Printing looked perfect, etc.
I really hope not. In fact, I'm still hoping that some game prices go down. It isn't realistic for some games, but there are some super common games that are simply overpriced right now.
Only certain oddities and rare games cib or new need be that expensive.
I really hope not. In fact, I'm still hoping that some game prices go down. It isn't realistic for some games, but there are some super common games that are simply overpriced right now.
Only certain oddities and rare games cib or new need be that expensive.
I think you only need to be worried if you're concerned with condition. You're never going to be paying hundreds of dollars for a loose Contra
That sold high because it is "one of the few known minty sealed" marios, i think there are way more out there but untill they show up people will speculate.
The key thing is this - sealed games are some store's unsold inventory. Which versions ended up unsold? The latest versions. The early versions sold thru inventory and were opened by kids.
So, The earlier the version the exponentially less likely you are to find it sealed. I know that for the average person looking at this auction it's easier to believe the buyer is some rich idiot, but he's no dummy.
You're probably referring to Dave Anderson. That particular copy is worth 5m+++ now. Going further back, Mitch took a lot of heat as well: http://i.imgur.com/nvdG2OS.jpg Now Mitch is a very different cat (he's actually active on forums now as an older collector) and some would tell you he's still a huge idiot... (fwiw I disagree, he's a good dude, just has a bit of a different online persona than most).
One of the fun things about that article is that it shows how quantities known change over time. The article quotes the understanding of the hobby at the time (early 70s) to be that there were nine existing copies, its now well understood to be more like 200
I personally think it depends on the game as far as how high it will reach. Obviously SE is way up there, but I think only a few others will reach the prices of SE...one or two SNES games, possibly one GC game, and maybe 2 or 3 Wii games, as far as my research and knowledge extends. I don't know much about the NES era because I never owned one and never really collected one. I've played a few NES games at friends' houses or borrowed one, but my main era was the SNES and N64 consoles.
You're probably referring to Dave Anderson. That particular copy is worth 5m+++ now. Going further back, Mitch took a lot of heat as well: http://i.imgur.com/nvdG2OS.jpg... Now Mitch is a very different cat (he's actually active on forums now as an older collector) and some would tell you he's still a huge idiot... (fwiw I disagree, he's a good dude, just has a bit of a different online persona than most).
One of the fun things about that article is that it shows how quantities known change over time. The article quotes the understanding of the hobby at the time (early 70s) to be that there were nine existing copies, its now well understood to be more like 200
They said 9 copies of Action 1 exist in the article. How many are known or estimated to exist today?
You're probably referring to Dave Anderson. That particular copy is worth 5m+++ now. Going further back, Mitch took a lot of heat as well: http://i.imgur.com/nvdG2OS.jpg Now Mitch is a very different cat (he's actually active on forums now as an older collector) and some would tell you he's still a huge idiot... (fwiw I disagree, he's a good dude, just has a bit of a different online persona than most).
One of the fun things about that article is that it shows how quantities known change over time.The article quotes the understanding of the hobby at the time (early 70s) to be that there were nine existing copies, its now well understood to be more like 200
They said 9 copies of Action 1 exist in the article. How many are known or estimated to exist today?
You're probably referring to Dave Anderson. That particular copy is worth 5m+++ now. Going further back, Mitch took a lot of heat as well: http://i.imgur.com/nvdG2OS.jpg Now Mitch is a very different cat (he's actually active on forums now as an older collector) and some would tell you he's still a huge idiot... (fwiw I disagree, he's a good dude, just has a bit of a different online persona than most).
One of the fun things about that article is that it shows how quantities known change over time.The article quotes the understanding of the hobby at the time (early 70s) to be that there were nine existing copies, its now well understood to be more like 200
They said 9 copies of Action 1 exist in the article. How many are known or estimated to exist today?
The increase from 9 to 200 hasn't had much impact on demand or price.
Can't imagine any videogame selling for close to these numbers with 200 known copies.
The hobby would really have to grow for this to happen.
I think comparing it to golden age comics is too hard to do. 1930s items and 1980s items just have nothing in common.
Silver age is a better comparison point.
I compare the mario sale more to something like the sale of White Mountain Amazing Fantasy 15 in the early 90s for, at the time, a number also in the low 30k's. (Also way above expectations at the time). Neither is rare overall; only 'in condition'. Both are landmark releases in the history of their mediums, etc.
Video games have a long way to go before they are as expensive as modern baseball cards. Not saying it's not going to happen, it will just take a while.
Especially when theres one already graded is available for 1/10th of that price! Or best offer!!
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Not the same..
I see now.. the seal is different.
Yeah... no way a different seal should make a game cost 30k though.
One tiny bend can make a 30k difference on a comic. One tiny scratch can make a 30k difference on a coin. One soft corner could mean 30k on a card. At the end of the day if your copy is a little better than someone else's the market at the very top will place a lot of value on that
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I guess the question is experts in what (as I'm not familiar with the aero fighters 3 story)? Experts in games that don't know about printing could be fooled into thinking a digital print is offset. Someone who knows how to differentiate them under magnification won't be fooled as long as the counterfeit is actually digital.
If its a legit looking offset counterfeit, everybody's fucked. But, chances are strong that the fakes are digital prints.
There was a guy who had a case pak of USA "Aero Fighters 3" and sold a few for 30K and they were authenticated by Neo Geo "experts." I use this term because I am pretty good at finding fakes of Neo stuff but if I have to open it it's tough. With these there look exact. Nothing would deter from them being real, but then they were found out that the guy found a way to make them (some place that was related to the whole Arcade! Ray Young saga (KOF 2000 USA was next). The guy claimed to work at SNk a long time ago and had a bunch of stuff but he's just perfect at making replicas. Knowing this I would be nervous completely when you figure out these games are by region, so he had a perfect Aero Fighters 3 with Sonic Wings 3 PCB. Printing looked perfect, etc.
Neo Geo AES collecting is scary.
Only certain oddities and rare games cib or new need be that expensive.
I really hope not. In fact, I'm still hoping that some game prices go down. It isn't realistic for some games, but there are some super common games that are simply overpriced right now.
Only certain oddities and rare games cib or new need be that expensive.
I think you only need to be worried if you're concerned with condition. You're never going to be paying hundreds of dollars for a loose Contra
I mean.. there's this one that just sold
I mean.. there's this one that just sold
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Especially when theres one already graded is available for 1/10th of that price! Or best offer!!
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Not the same..
Especially when theres one already graded is available for 1/10th of that price! Or best offer!!
deleted link...
Not the same..
I see now.. the seal is different.
The key thing is this - sealed games are some store's unsold inventory. Which versions ended up unsold? The latest versions. The early versions sold thru inventory and were opened by kids.
So, The earlier the version the exponentially less likely you are to find it sealed. I know that for the average person looking at this auction it's easier to believe the buyer is some rich idiot, but he's no dummy.
One of the fun things about that article is that it shows how quantities known change over time. The article quotes the understanding of the hobby at the time (early 70s) to be that there were nine existing copies, its now well understood to be more like 200
You're probably referring to Dave Anderson. That particular copy is worth 5m+++ now. Going further back, Mitch took a lot of heat as well: http://i.imgur.com/nvdG2OS.jpg... Now Mitch is a very different cat (he's actually active on forums now as an older collector) and some would tell you he's still a huge idiot... (fwiw I disagree, he's a good dude, just has a bit of a different online persona than most).
One of the fun things about that article is that it shows how quantities known change over time. The article quotes the understanding of the hobby at the time (early 70s) to be that there were nine existing copies, its now well understood to be more like 200
They said 9 copies of Action 1 exist in the article. How many are known or estimated to exist today?
You're probably referring to Dave Anderson. That particular copy is worth 5m+++ now. Going further back, Mitch took a lot of heat as well: http://i.imgur.com/nvdG2OS.jpg Now Mitch is a very different cat (he's actually active on forums now as an older collector) and some would tell you he's still a huge idiot... (fwiw I disagree, he's a good dude, just has a bit of a different online persona than most).
One of the fun things about that article is that it shows how quantities known change over time. The article quotes the understanding of the hobby at the time (early 70s) to be that there were nine existing copies, its now well understood to be more like 200
They said 9 copies of Action 1 exist in the article. How many are known or estimated to exist today?
You're probably referring to Dave Anderson. That particular copy is worth 5m+++ now. Going further back, Mitch took a lot of heat as well: http://i.imgur.com/nvdG2OS.jpg Now Mitch is a very different cat (he's actually active on forums now as an older collector) and some would tell you he's still a huge idiot... (fwiw I disagree, he's a good dude, just has a bit of a different online persona than most).
One of the fun things about that article is that it shows how quantities known change over time. The article quotes the understanding of the hobby at the time (early 70s) to be that there were nine existing copies, its now well understood to be more like 200
They said 9 copies of Action 1 exist in the article. How many are known or estimated to exist today?
The increase from 9 to 200 hasn't had much impact on demand or price.
Can't imagine any videogame selling for close to these numbers with 200 known copies.
The hobby would really have to grow for this to happen.
Silver age is a better comparison point.
I compare the mario sale more to something like the sale of White Mountain Amazing Fantasy 15 in the early 90s for, at the time, a number also in the low 30k's. (Also way above expectations at the time). Neither is rare overall; only 'in condition'. Both are landmark releases in the history of their mediums, etc.
Especially when theres one already graded is available for 1/10th of that price! Or best offer!!
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Not the same..
I see now.. the seal is different.
Yeah... no way a different seal should make a game cost 30k though.
No point taking this further.
Especially when theres one already graded is available for 1/10th of that price! Or best offer!!
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Not the same..
I see now.. the seal is different.
Yeah... no way a different seal should make a game cost 30k though.
I get it, I see the other differences too.. and I understand the backstory of it being a pre-bundled copy etc...
but still.. I don't know maybe it would be different if I had expendable cash like that but I don't so...
Especially when theres one already graded is available for 1/10th of that price! Or best offer!!
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Not the same..
I see now.. the seal is different.
Yeah... no way a different seal should make a game cost 30k though.
You see this in books. Big drop in price from 1st edition to 2nd edition and the price plummets if it is a book club or library edition.
Book may be exactly the same otherwise.
Vintage... that's another story.
Especially when theres one already graded is available for 1/10th of that price! Or best offer!!
deleted link...
Not the same..
I see now.. the seal is different.
Yeah... no way a different seal should make a game cost 30k though.
One tiny bend can make a 30k difference on a comic. One tiny scratch can make a 30k difference on a coin. One soft corner could mean 30k on a card. At the end of the day if your copy is a little better than someone else's the market at the very top will place a lot of value on that
My copy is better, it also comes with duckhunt.
I was really hoping for World class track meet.
My copy is better, it also comes with duckhunt.
I was really hoping for World class track meet.
Yeah mine is lame, i do not have the three in one
My copy is better, it also comes with duckhunt.
Nice !
A sealed Mario Duck Hunt is by far the rarer item.