Could one at least agree that Star Fox 2 is an official licensed release, even if not technically provided on an SNES cart?
That I do agree with. It was an official, legitimate release. But just as Super Mario All-stars Wii edition doesn't belong in an SNES set, neither does this, imo. That's the closest comparison I can think of, it's an SNES rom in a different package. I wonder if that ROM has been extracted and put on a cart to see if there are any differences. But anyway, for me, if you're collecting an SNES set, aka SNES carts, no this doesn't go with it. I bet not one person here who feel it belongs, actually collects SNES to build the full set.
I'm not into collecting full sets of mostly worthless games. Most systems about 10% of the library are excellent must have games, and on top of that maybe another 20% have some redeeming quality that make them worth owning. Of course the amount of shovelware varies per system, but there's enough filler content out there, and let's be honest, noone with a complete set of anything has time to play them all. Well maybe except for Pat's NES book where he literally reviews everything. But that's more academic research than recreation.
There's nothing wrong with that, and I know you're not alone in that opinion. But we're discussing if this belongs in the full set of SNES games and you are one of the biggest supporters, even though you have no interest in persuing it yourself. I'm not trying to say that invalidates your opinion, and I also do not collect for a full SNES set, but I feel like if you asked someone who actually does, they would generally say no.
Could one at least agree that Star Fox 2 is an official licensed release, even if not technically provided on an SNES cart?
That I do agree with. It was an official, legitimate release. But just as Super Mario All-stars Wii edition doesn't belong in an SNES set, neither does this, imo. That's the closest comparison I can think of, it's an SNES rom in a different package. I wonder if that ROM has been extracted and put on a cart to see if there are any differences. But anyway, for me, if you're collecting an SNES set, aka SNES carts, no this doesn't go with it. I bet not one person here who feel it belongs, actually collects SNES to build the full set.
I'm not into collecting full sets of mostly worthless games. Most systems about 10% of the library are excellent must have games, and on top of that maybe another 20% have some redeeming quality that make them worth owning. Of course the amount of shovelware varies per system, but there's enough filler content out there, and let's be honest, noone with a complete set of anything has time to play them all. Well maybe except for Pat's NES book where he literally reviews everything. But that's more academic research than recreation.
Not that it's important, but Pat's books are nothing that should be called 'academic research'
Could one at least agree that Star Fox 2 is an official licensed release, even if not technically provided on an SNES cart?
That I do agree with. It was an official, legitimate release. But just as Super Mario All-stars Wii edition doesn't belong in an SNES set, neither does this, imo. That's the closest comparison I can think of, it's an SNES rom in a different package. I wonder if that ROM has been extracted and put on a cart to see if there are any differences. But anyway, for me, if you're collecting an SNES set, aka SNES carts, no this doesn't go with it. I bet not one person here who feel it belongs, actually collects SNES to build the full set.
I'm not into collecting full sets of mostly worthless games. Most systems about 10% of the library are excellent must have games, and on top of that maybe another 20% have some redeeming quality that make them worth owning. Of course the amount of shovelware varies per system, but there's enough filler content out there, and let's be honest, noone with a complete set of anything has time to play them all. Well maybe except for Pat's NES book where he literally reviews everything. But that's more academic research than recreation.
Not that it's important, but Pat's books are nothing that should be called 'academic research'
I meant that the act of playing every nes game in the entire library was academic research on pat's behalf, in order to put the book together.
I guess you could say that, but it still makes me cringe in a sense, and I wouldn't undermine the recreational aspect of such practice (ie : it is not because you play a bad game to write a review that you're not having fun doing it).
There is one thing no one can really argue with, and that is: Star Fox 2 is an official Nintendo release of a Super Nintendo game. It was developed for Super Nintendo and it plays on a system emulating a Super Nintendo. If you burn it onto a rom it will play on the official hardware. And Nintendo officially released it on the Snes Classic Mini. In itself I think this is super cool and exciting, and I feel a lot of people in this thread lose sight of how unique this really is.
What it comes down to, then, is whether you collect officially released games or officially released cartridges. If you collect officially released games you'll 100% need a Snes Classic Mini (and since all the other 20 games on it are also official releases, they would also count the same as cartridges). Along this same line of thinking, buying a Snes game through Virtual Console means that it is also considered a part of your Snes game collection. I don't see what's fuzzy here. It's a consistent and straightforward definition of game collecting. It's like collecting movies of a particular type and owning some of them on VHS, some on laser disc and some on bluray.
If you only collect cartridge releases on the other hand, then obviously Star Fox 2 wouldn't be considered part of the collection, and you'd still have to own the cartridge releases of the other 20 games on the system. This is how most collectors define their hobby I guess.
What no one can argue with though is that Star Fox 2 as of last week is an officially released Super Nintendo game. If I were a collector, that fact alone would make me want to get a Mini.
Could one at least agree that Star Fox 2 is an official licensed release, even if not technically provided on an SNES cart?
That I do agree with. It was an official, legitimate release. But just as Super Mario All-stars Wii edition doesn't belong in an SNES set, neither does this, imo. That's the closest comparison I can think of, it's an SNES rom in a different package. I wonder if that ROM has been extracted and put on a cart to see if there are any differences. But anyway, for me, if you're collecting an SNES set, aka SNES carts, no this doesn't go with it. I bet not one person here who feel it belongs, actually collects SNES to build the full set.
I'm not into collecting full sets of mostly worthless games. Most systems about 10% of the library are excellent must have games, and on top of that maybe another 20% have some redeeming quality that make them worth owning. Of course the amount of shovelware varies per system, but there's enough filler content out there, and let's be honest, noone with a complete set of anything has time to play them all. Well maybe except for Pat's NES book where he literally reviews everything. But that's more academic research than recreation.
There's nothing wrong with that, and I know you're not alone in that opinion. But we're discussing if this belongs in the full set of SNES games and you are one of the biggest supporters, even though you have no interest in persuing it yourself. I'm not trying to say that invalidates your opinion, and I also do not collect for a full SNES set, but I feel like if you asked someone who actually does, they would generally say no.
Looking at the game subjectively, it is: #1 licensed by nintendo. #2 ROM is formatted for the SNES system. So it is a licensed snes game with a release date of 2017, just not in cartidge form factor.
One does not need a desire to collect an entire set to be interested as a body of works as a whole. I consider Japanese releases to be part of the set too, and collect them when feasible to do so. My SNES may not be considered stock as I broke the tabs on it, but Super Famicom carts are a subset of SNES games and fully playable on my console.
A lot of gems did not see release in the west so why exclude them? Ditto for previously unreleased games...
Could one at least agree that Star Fox 2 is an official licensed release, even if not technically provided on an SNES cart?
Yes, of course
One does not need a desire to collect an entire set to be interested as a body of works as a whole.
Also agreed. I'm very interested in unreleased stuff. And, for instance, Famicom exclusives but I wouldn't require them for a NES full set.
Another example, I collect a particular comic book series which had #1-8 issues with an indie, then had a much longer run on an imprint of a major publisher. I have/collect both because I like the character, but I wouldn't say you need publisher A issues 1-8 to count a full run of publisher B issues 1-300andwhatever. If they kept the same numbering system across the shift (starting with B at #9), then perhaps. But they didn't, neither did Nintendo keep the same format across the 20 year gap.
Okay I just read the entire thread so I'm gonna entitle my self to a post, and I'll try and do it from an unbiased empirical stand point. Both sides do make good points, but I think the answer is somewhere in the middle.
It is true the game was originally developed for the Super Nintendo, but it was never released for that hardware. It is fully licensed, developed and sold by Nintendo right now on the Super Nintendo Classic edition. The rom is a legitimate 16-bit era rom, but you couldn't play it on a Super Nintendo without modifying something in some way. By opening the SNES classic, and in putting it on a cart you've taken the rom and used it in a way it wasn't intended when you purchased it. You've essentially made yourself a repro just like if you took any other game off the SNES classic and put it on a cart it would be a repro not an official release.
When the general consensus on here is talking about a "complete set" it generally means a "U.S. licensed retail set of physical game carts/cds" and a set of parameters including, but not always limited to: officially released or licensed by the manufacturer of the console, played on the console it was intended to be released on, made for the region it was released in, and having been purchasable in a widely available setting (retail or mail away generally).
Even though Star Fox 2 meets some of those criteria it does not meet all of them. If it were a broader category like "all officially licensed games" it would be accurate, or even if it was more hyper specific like "officially released Star Fox games" it would be accurate, but it is not an "officially licensed Super Nintendo Entertainment System game as dubbed by the masses" so it will stay relegated to it's own smaller category.
In the end though anyone can categorize it however they like because your collection is your collection. I figure most serious SNES collectors will buy one anyway because they know they want it, and anyone who doesn't will just complain about scalpers or something. My full set is only first party games so this was getting added regardless.
The company that is still using the name of the company that jump-started the video game industry in the late 80s and early 90s is now making an emulator in a cellphone inside a plastic shell and selling it to you. No this is not Starfox 2.
Star Fox 2 is not an SNES Game. It was released on the SNES Classic Edition and NOT on the SNES. Therefore, Star Fox 2 is part of the Classic Edition full set, not the SNES full set. The SNES Classic shares zero hardware with the Super Nintendo/Super Famicom. They are related in name and manufacturer only.
To folks saying "YES Star Fox 2 is required for the full SNES Set", may I ask you a few questions?
1: Do you feel that the re-releases of SMB1/Zelda1/Zelda2/etc. on the Game Boy Advance should be required in order to have a full NES set as the ROM data is the same?
2: Do you feel that Virtual Console releases on the Wii and Wii U should have also been purchased in order to have a "full set"?
If you answered "YES" to both questions, then okay, you can go ahead and call Star Fox 2 a requirement on the SNES full set collection though you will be in the very small minority. If you answered "NO" to either question yet still feel that Star Fox 2 is required for the SNES Full Set, then honestly, it's a bit hypocritical.
The main point is that Star Fox 2 was released on the SNES/Super Famicom Classic Edition. It was NEVER released on the SNES or Super Famicom ever, and therefore, it doesn't belong in the complete "set". It was released on a different console and therefore isn't part of the SNES set any more than A Link Between Worlds is.
Star Fox 2 is not an SNES Game. It was released on the SNES Classic Edition and NOT on the SNES. Therefore, Star Fox 2 is part of the Classic Edition full set, not the SNES full set. The SNES Classic shares zero hardware with the Super Nintendo/Super Famicom. They are related in name and manufacturer only.
To folks saying "YES Star Fox 2 is required for the full SNES Set", may I ask you a few questions?
1: Do you feel that the re-releases of SMB1/Zelda1/Zelda2/etc. on the Game Boy Advance should be required in order to have a full NES set as the ROM data is the same?
2: Do you feel that Virtual Console releases on the Wii and Wii U should have also been purchased in order to have a "full set"?
If you answered "YES" to both questions, then okay, you can go ahead and call Star Fox 2 a requirement on the SNES full set collection though you will be in the very small minority. If you answered "NO" to either question yet still feel that Star Fox 2 is required for the SNES Full Set, then honestly, it's a bit hypocritical.
The main point is that Star Fox 2 was released on the SNES/Super Famicom Classic Edition. It was NEVER released on the SNES or Super Famicom ever, and therefore, it doesn't belong in the complete "set". It was released on a different console and therefore isn't part of the SNES set any more than A Link Between Worlds is.
^ This is quite possibly the best post in here on this topic.
Not really. It's insane calling a SNES game not an SNES game solely because it is not on a cartridge and released in a later era. It's a SNES game, just the code wasn't put on a circa 1996 SNES board and chipset. If you want to argue it doesn't belong in the set, I can see that. But to call it not an SNES game is dumb.
About those questions. Nah, but they're also just re-releases of an existing released NES game. I get where you're going rom plus emulator. And on the second question same answer. Already released games for a region with the exception of the english Earthbound for NES. I don't see any hypocrisy in that as you're ignoring a re-release from a new release that never was out before. Earthbound (Beginnings) would fit with Star Fox 2 if you really wanted to get into semantics. The LTBW game on 3DS is not even a logical comparison as it wasn't on SNES ever or intended for it. Star Fox 2 like Earthbound (Beginnings) were made and completed in the era for their systems but never made it to retail. They're legit games of the time and period which slipped through time due to bad circumstances.
Star Fox 2 is not an SNES Game. It was released on the SNES Classic Edition and NOT on the SNES. Therefore, Star Fox 2 is part of the Classic Edition full set, not the SNES full set.
It's a SNES game because it was developed for Super Nintendo. Like other SNES games, it does not work on hardware that doesn't emulate the properties of a Super Nintendo (unlike GBA re-releases of old games). Like other Super Nintendo games, it works on the actual console if you want to go through all that trouble.
You're conflating "a full set" with what the game actually is. Star Fox 2 is not part of the set of games that were officially released on cartridges for Super Nintendo, and I don't think anyone in the thread has tried to suggest that it is. But to claim that it's not a SNES game is factually wrong.
I may make a nomination for the SNES Classic Mini, that it be nominated for inclusion for the Star Fox series badge, since Star Fox 2 is an official release, not a remake of any existing game, and the only way to get it legally is to buy an SNES Classic.
I may make a nomination for the SNES Classic Mini, that it be nominated for inclusion for the Star Fox series badge, since Star Fox 2 is an official release, not a remake of any existing game, and the only way to get it legally is to buy an SNES Classic.
Actually not opposed to that idea. Still not in the SNES set though
I think any rational person would get behind adding Star Fox 2 to the setup of badges you have here. It is a legitimate game, just a very very delayed release of it.
Does save states now count to beating a game? Now that its part of a nintendo console it means nintendo allows you to use the tool, like saving a game in super mario world now save states are fine in completion and if not why is it different for starfox 2?
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Could one at least agree that Star Fox 2 is an official licensed release, even if not technically provided on an SNES cart?
That I do agree with. It was an official, legitimate release. But just as Super Mario All-stars Wii edition doesn't belong in an SNES set, neither does this, imo. That's the closest comparison I can think of, it's an SNES rom in a different package. I wonder if that ROM has been extracted and put on a cart to see if there are any differences. But anyway, for me, if you're collecting an SNES set, aka SNES carts, no this doesn't go with it. I bet not one person here who feel it belongs, actually collects SNES to build the full set.
I'm not into collecting full sets of mostly worthless games. Most systems about 10% of the library are excellent must have games, and on top of that maybe another 20% have some redeeming quality that make them worth owning. Of course the amount of shovelware varies per system, but there's enough filler content out there, and let's be honest, noone with a complete set of anything has time to play them all. Well maybe except for Pat's NES book where he literally reviews everything. But that's more academic research than recreation.
There's nothing wrong with that, and I know you're not alone in that opinion. But we're discussing if this belongs in the full set of SNES games and you are one of the biggest supporters, even though you have no interest in persuing it yourself. I'm not trying to say that invalidates your opinion, and I also do not collect for a full SNES set, but I feel like if you asked someone who actually does, they would generally say no.
Originally posted by: Kosmic StarDust
Originally posted by: Bert
Originally posted by: Kosmic StarDust
Could one at least agree that Star Fox 2 is an official licensed release, even if not technically provided on an SNES cart?
That I do agree with. It was an official, legitimate release. But just as Super Mario All-stars Wii edition doesn't belong in an SNES set, neither does this, imo. That's the closest comparison I can think of, it's an SNES rom in a different package. I wonder if that ROM has been extracted and put on a cart to see if there are any differences. But anyway, for me, if you're collecting an SNES set, aka SNES carts, no this doesn't go with it. I bet not one person here who feel it belongs, actually collects SNES to build the full set.
I'm not into collecting full sets of mostly worthless games. Most systems about 10% of the library are excellent must have games, and on top of that maybe another 20% have some redeeming quality that make them worth owning. Of course the amount of shovelware varies per system, but there's enough filler content out there, and let's be honest, noone with a complete set of anything has time to play them all. Well maybe except for Pat's NES book where he literally reviews everything. But that's more academic research than recreation.
Not that it's important, but Pat's books are nothing that should be called 'academic research'
Could one at least agree that Star Fox 2 is an official licensed release, even if not technically provided on an SNES cart?
Yeah I definitely agree with that.
Could one at least agree that Star Fox 2 is an official licensed release, even if not technically provided on an SNES cart?
That I do agree with. It was an official, legitimate release. But just as Super Mario All-stars Wii edition doesn't belong in an SNES set, neither does this, imo. That's the closest comparison I can think of, it's an SNES rom in a different package. I wonder if that ROM has been extracted and put on a cart to see if there are any differences. But anyway, for me, if you're collecting an SNES set, aka SNES carts, no this doesn't go with it. I bet not one person here who feel it belongs, actually collects SNES to build the full set.
I'm not into collecting full sets of mostly worthless games. Most systems about 10% of the library are excellent must have games, and on top of that maybe another 20% have some redeeming quality that make them worth owning. Of course the amount of shovelware varies per system, but there's enough filler content out there, and let's be honest, noone with a complete set of anything has time to play them all. Well maybe except for Pat's NES book where he literally reviews everything. But that's more academic research than recreation.
Not that it's important, but Pat's books are nothing that should be called 'academic research'
I meant that the act of playing every nes game in the entire library was academic research on pat's behalf, in order to put the book together.
What it comes down to, then, is whether you collect officially released games or officially released cartridges. If you collect officially released games you'll 100% need a Snes Classic Mini (and since all the other 20 games on it are also official releases, they would also count the same as cartridges). Along this same line of thinking, buying a Snes game through Virtual Console means that it is also considered a part of your Snes game collection. I don't see what's fuzzy here. It's a consistent and straightforward definition of game collecting. It's like collecting movies of a particular type and owning some of them on VHS, some on laser disc and some on bluray.
If you only collect cartridge releases on the other hand, then obviously Star Fox 2 wouldn't be considered part of the collection, and you'd still have to own the cartridge releases of the other 20 games on the system. This is how most collectors define their hobby I guess.
What no one can argue with though is that Star Fox 2 as of last week is an officially released Super Nintendo game. If I were a collector, that fact alone would make me want to get a Mini.
Could one at least agree that Star Fox 2 is an official licensed release, even if not technically provided on an SNES cart?
That I do agree with. It was an official, legitimate release. But just as Super Mario All-stars Wii edition doesn't belong in an SNES set, neither does this, imo. That's the closest comparison I can think of, it's an SNES rom in a different package. I wonder if that ROM has been extracted and put on a cart to see if there are any differences. But anyway, for me, if you're collecting an SNES set, aka SNES carts, no this doesn't go with it. I bet not one person here who feel it belongs, actually collects SNES to build the full set.
I'm not into collecting full sets of mostly worthless games. Most systems about 10% of the library are excellent must have games, and on top of that maybe another 20% have some redeeming quality that make them worth owning. Of course the amount of shovelware varies per system, but there's enough filler content out there, and let's be honest, noone with a complete set of anything has time to play them all. Well maybe except for Pat's NES book where he literally reviews everything. But that's more academic research than recreation.
There's nothing wrong with that, and I know you're not alone in that opinion. But we're discussing if this belongs in the full set of SNES games and you are one of the biggest supporters, even though you have no interest in persuing it yourself. I'm not trying to say that invalidates your opinion, and I also do not collect for a full SNES set, but I feel like if you asked someone who actually does, they would generally say no.
Looking at the game subjectively, it is: #1 licensed by nintendo. #2 ROM is formatted for the SNES system. So it is a licensed snes game with a release date of 2017, just not in cartidge form factor.
One does not need a desire to collect an entire set to be interested as a body of works as a whole. I consider Japanese releases to be part of the set too, and collect them when feasible to do so. My SNES may not be considered stock as I broke the tabs on it, but Super Famicom carts are a subset of SNES games and fully playable on my console.
A lot of gems did not see release in the west so why exclude them? Ditto for previously unreleased games...
Could one at least agree that Star Fox 2 is an official licensed release, even if not technically provided on an SNES cart?
Yes, of course
Also agreed. I'm very interested in unreleased stuff. And, for instance, Famicom exclusives but I wouldn't require them for a NES full set.
Another example, I collect a particular comic book series which had #1-8 issues with an indie, then had a much longer run on an imprint of a major publisher. I have/collect both because I like the character, but I wouldn't say you need publisher A issues 1-8 to count a full run of publisher B issues 1-300andwhatever. If they kept the same numbering system across the shift (starting with B at #9), then perhaps. But they didn't, neither did Nintendo keep the same format across the 20 year gap.
Could one at least agree that Star Fox 2 is an official licensed release, even if not technically provided on an SNES cart?
Official - check
Licensed - check
Release - check
SNES - nope
SNES Classic - check
Could one at least agree that Star Fox 2 is an official licensed release, even if not technically provided on an SNES cart?
Official - check
Licensed - check
Release - check
SNES - nope *
SNES Classic - check
* The actual data contained within the ROM says otherwise. Did you perhaps mean an actual SNES cart?
Could one at least agree that Star Fox 2 is an official licensed release, even if not technically provided on an SNES cart?
Official - check
Licensed - check
Release - check
SNES - nope *
SNES Classic - check
* The actual data contained within the ROM says otherwise. Did you perhaps mean an actual SNES cart?
Not as a noun but as an adjective in conjunction with the other adjectives already laid out to further describe the product.
instead of reading, is anybody actually arguing that SF2 is part of the set?
too many posts, too many pages.
instead of reading, is anybody actually arguing that SF2 is part of the set?
Unfortunately the answer is yes.
It is true the game was originally developed for the Super Nintendo, but it was never released for that hardware. It is fully licensed, developed and sold by Nintendo right now on the Super Nintendo Classic edition. The rom is a legitimate 16-bit era rom, but you couldn't play it on a Super Nintendo without modifying something in some way. By opening the SNES classic, and in putting it on a cart you've taken the rom and used it in a way it wasn't intended when you purchased it. You've essentially made yourself a repro just like if you took any other game off the SNES classic and put it on a cart it would be a repro not an official release.
When the general consensus on here is talking about a "complete set" it generally means a "U.S. licensed retail set of physical game carts/cds" and a set of parameters including, but not always limited to: officially released or licensed by the manufacturer of the console, played on the console it was intended to be released on, made for the region it was released in, and having been purchasable in a widely available setting (retail or mail away generally).
Even though Star Fox 2 meets some of those criteria it does not meet all of them. If it were a broader category like "all officially licensed games" it would be accurate, or even if it was more hyper specific like "officially released Star Fox games" it would be accurate, but it is not an "officially licensed Super Nintendo Entertainment System game as dubbed by the masses" so it will stay relegated to it's own smaller category.
In the end though anyone can categorize it however they like because your collection is your collection. I figure most serious SNES collectors will buy one anyway because they know they want it, and anyone who doesn't will just complain about scalpers or something. My full set is only first party games so this was getting added regardless.
To folks saying "YES Star Fox 2 is required for the full SNES Set", may I ask you a few questions?
1: Do you feel that the re-releases of SMB1/Zelda1/Zelda2/etc. on the Game Boy Advance should be required in order to have a full NES set as the ROM data is the same?
2: Do you feel that Virtual Console releases on the Wii and Wii U should have also been purchased in order to have a "full set"?
If you answered "YES" to both questions, then okay, you can go ahead and call Star Fox 2 a requirement on the SNES full set collection though you will be in the very small minority. If you answered "NO" to either question yet still feel that Star Fox 2 is required for the SNES Full Set, then honestly, it's a bit hypocritical.
The main point is that Star Fox 2 was released on the SNES/Super Famicom Classic Edition. It was NEVER released on the SNES or Super Famicom ever, and therefore, it doesn't belong in the complete "set". It was released on a different console and therefore isn't part of the SNES set any more than A Link Between Worlds is.
Star Fox 2 is not an SNES Game. It was released on the SNES Classic Edition and NOT on the SNES. Therefore, Star Fox 2 is part of the Classic Edition full set, not the SNES full set. The SNES Classic shares zero hardware with the Super Nintendo/Super Famicom. They are related in name and manufacturer only.
To folks saying "YES Star Fox 2 is required for the full SNES Set", may I ask you a few questions?
1: Do you feel that the re-releases of SMB1/Zelda1/Zelda2/etc. on the Game Boy Advance should be required in order to have a full NES set as the ROM data is the same?
2: Do you feel that Virtual Console releases on the Wii and Wii U should have also been purchased in order to have a "full set"?
If you answered "YES" to both questions, then okay, you can go ahead and call Star Fox 2 a requirement on the SNES full set collection though you will be in the very small minority. If you answered "NO" to either question yet still feel that Star Fox 2 is required for the SNES Full Set, then honestly, it's a bit hypocritical.
The main point is that Star Fox 2 was released on the SNES/Super Famicom Classic Edition. It was NEVER released on the SNES or Super Famicom ever, and therefore, it doesn't belong in the complete "set". It was released on a different console and therefore isn't part of the SNES set any more than A Link Between Worlds is.
^ This is quite possibly the best post in here on this topic.
About those questions. Nah, but they're also just re-releases of an existing released NES game. I get where you're going rom plus emulator. And on the second question same answer. Already released games for a region with the exception of the english Earthbound for NES. I don't see any hypocrisy in that as you're ignoring a re-release from a new release that never was out before. Earthbound (Beginnings) would fit with Star Fox 2 if you really wanted to get into semantics. The LTBW game on 3DS is not even a logical comparison as it wasn't on SNES ever or intended for it. Star Fox 2 like Earthbound (Beginnings) were made and completed in the era for their systems but never made it to retail. They're legit games of the time and period which slipped through time due to bad circumstances.
Edit : Okay, Jdurg said it, like, in the first sentence of his post, haha.
Star Fox 2 is not an SNES Game. It was released on the SNES Classic Edition and NOT on the SNES. Therefore, Star Fox 2 is part of the Classic Edition full set, not the SNES full set.
It's a SNES game because it was developed for Super Nintendo. Like other SNES games, it does not work on hardware that doesn't emulate the properties of a Super Nintendo (unlike GBA re-releases of old games). Like other Super Nintendo games, it works on the actual console if you want to go through all that trouble.
You're conflating "a full set" with what the game actually is. Star Fox 2 is not part of the set of games that were officially released on cartridges for Super Nintendo, and I don't think anyone in the thread has tried to suggest that it is. But to claim that it's not a SNES game is factually wrong.
I may make a nomination for the SNES Classic Mini, that it be nominated for inclusion for the Star Fox series badge, since Star Fox 2 is an official release, not a remake of any existing game, and the only way to get it legally is to buy an SNES Classic.
Actually not opposed to that idea. Still not in the SNES set though
*drop mic
Who said it wasn't a SNES game?
Edit : Okay, Jdurg said it, like, in the first sentence of his post, haha.
I'll say it too.
If it doesn't run on an SNES then it isn't an SNES game.
Is Mario All Stars a SNES or a NES game?
Mario AllStars contains remakes of some NES games but it is a SNES game.
What about Zelda Collectors edition for GameCube?
It is a GameCube game.
The SNES classic is the SNES classic not the SNES.