With this selling out (much more quickly than I imagined) I have no doubts a lot of other companies will be looking at the success and wondering how they utilize their older games to make more than a couple of bucks via the Virtual Console or similar. It'll be interesting to see if the future holds more of this kind of treatment or if we'll start to see more interesting projects.
One thing nobody has really mentioned (except the brief discussion of Sweet Home) is the possible market for games that were not released in the U.S. back in the day. There are quite a few of these that I think would generate a lot of interest, including with many of those who haven't been enthusiastic about SFII in this thread - myself included. Think about an official USA NTSC NES Mr. Gimmick or Kid Dracula or something. I think that sort of thing would be awesome and much more worth it than SFII, as long as they don't price it too crazy high. What do folks think? If Konami agreed to let iam8bit release an NES version of Kid Dracula in the same manner for $50? I'd click buy without a second thought, personally.
That would take some actual effort since they might have to do a translation or modify a ROM, so it's never going to happen. These guys are the epitome of lazy.
My advice to everyone that bought into this is to flip this shit as soon as you can. Once the hype wears off people will wise up to the fact that spending $100+ for a repro of a $10 common makes no fucking sense. Oh, and those carts are ugly as sin with that cheap looking colored plastic.
If infiniteneslives is using the same shell carts they got from piko then i agree, a user on here makes better quality shells than those ugly snap on ones.
With this selling out (much more quickly than I imagined) I have no doubts a lot of other companies will be looking at the success and wondering how they utilize their older games to make more than a couple of bucks via the Virtual Console or similar. It'll be interesting to see if the future holds more of this kind of treatment or if we'll start to see more interesting projects.
One thing nobody has really mentioned (except the brief discussion of Sweet Home) is the possible market for games that were not released in the U.S. back in the day. There are quite a few of these that I think would generate a lot of interest, including with many of those who haven't been enthusiastic about SFII in this thread - myself included. Think about an official USA NTSC NES Mr. Gimmick or Kid Dracula or something. I think that sort of thing would be awesome and much more worth it than SFII, as long as they don't price it too crazy high. What do folks think? If Konami agreed to let iam8bit release an NES version of Kid Dracula in the same manner for $50? I'd click buy without a second thought, personally.
That would take some actual effort since they might have to do a translation or modify a ROM, so it's never going to happen. These guys are the epitome of lazy.
My advice to everyone that bought into this is to flip this shit as soon as you can. Once the hype wears off people will wise up to the fact that spending $100+ for a repro of a $10 common makes no fucking sense. Oh, and those carts are ugly as sin with that cheap looking colored plastic.
Or you know, keep it because not everyone looks at a game collection like a financial investment.
I jus wanna point out, as much shit as pegboy talks, he never said one word about the buyers. It's all about the project and the value. "Idiots" described Capcom.
the warnings about the fire hazard was stated because iam8bit and capcom cannot assure that the original console being several decades old can withstand rigorous play that a new cartridge would demand..they said there is NOTHING wrong with the cart, they don't know what CONDITION peoples existing CONSOLES are!..maybe full of cobwebs, mold, spiders, dust, grime?..that's why they stated it...since the console is very old relatively speaking.
i am happy i got one, i did'nt think i would ever be able to add to my collection a sealed new official capcom SNES cart with the SUPER NINTENDO endorsed logo right where it belongs on the package being sold on the CAPCOM store as a variant collectible..i am excited to see other carts come out! especially love how the box has super nintendo printed on it, with Nintendo obviously aware and giving the OK..and how even the cart as capcom logo on it, feels like a blast from the past!
the warnings about the fire hazard was stated because iam8bit and capcom cannot assure that the original console being several decades old can withstand rigorous play that a new cartridge would demand..
And yet no warning was given with the Duck Tales carts, which were played on consoles years older...
I'd be genuinely curious to know how well this would sell if it wasn't limited.
Good question.
I dont get why so many people are willing to support shit like this. This release is insulting at best and exploitive at worst:
Consider these points:
The 30th anniversary of Street Fighter is an assanine pretext. Why not wait for SFII to turn 30? Because who the fuck knows if retro collecting will be exploitable by then? Gotta strike while the iron's hot!
Capcom put zero effort into this shit. They know they didn't have to. Nostalgia has done all the work for them.
The price point is a joke. $100 for what exactly? Some people complained about the cost of Nintendo's mini console releases. Now how the fuck is this price point justified?
The limited release is a complete fucking ploy. Limiting this garbage means Capcom can collect an exclusivity markup to the tune of 100%
The Capcom store front is handled by digital river..they have a shaky reputation, and have done mass cancellations and oversold limited editions before...just because it states "in stock" on the Capcom store, it is possible that it may not be...you can try to order..but digital river has cancelled orders several weeks after the fact beforehand..i find it odd..that the Capcom store lets me order a "huge amount' of them carts..that's why i am suspicious of the digital river store.
This is 2017. Reproduction carts can be made in 1 offs for $25 or so. Boxes and manuals in print runs as low as 100 can be made around $10-$15 a piece. Due to simple economies of scale, if you do a production run as large as 5000+, I'm sure costs are likely half of that,at most... maybe even 1/3rd of that. Not to mention $20 in shipping when you can probably ship to Zimbabwe for that price.
It's a forum of opinions and if you can't tolerate opinions than move along. It sold out because of mass marketing hype, not because of quality. And don't worry, there will be ample opportunities to buy them on eBay as people have buyer's remorse after they see second hand resale values.
There's a big difference between stating opinions and just being an ass about things. I actually agree with the majority that this is overpriced, nonetheless people are acting as if this is the devil incarnate. As to why it sold out, seems to me you are just guessing. Apparently one copy already sold on ebay for over twice the original cost, so we'll see if you're right about "second hand resale values"
2 selling over asking before they are released means nothing.
I agree with Jone, there will be virtually zero secondary market and if there is it will be at minimal mark-up.
The Box will look nice on a shelf for a street fighter collector so it has that going for it. Anyone buying to flip better do it while the iron is hot, in 6 months to a year no one will give a shit.
They have been selling consistently for over $250. Example: opening bid $0.99, sold on Nov 19th for $256 + shipping
We still have what, 4 months to see if your prediction that "no on ewill give a shit" is true, but my money is that you're wrong. People do "give a shit" when it comes to classic games. This is something that fans and Nintendo need to realize! I'm hoping Capcom realizes this and we'll see some great SNES carts released!
Yeah, except for the fact that "auction" was fake and shill bid to hell by the seller. It was relisted and then sold for $135. And that's with this scumbag scammer trying to shill bid his auctions up.
This is 2017. Reproduction carts can be made in 1 offs for $25 or so. Boxes and manuals in print runs as low as 100 can be made around $10-$15 a piece. Due to simple economies of scale, if you do a production run as large as 5000+, I'm sure costs are likely half of that,at most... maybe even 1/3rd of that. Not to mention $20 in shipping when you can probably ship to Zimbabwe for that price.
It's a forum of opinions and if you can't tolerate opinions than move along. It sold out because of mass marketing hype, not because of quality. And don't worry, there will be ample opportunities to buy them on eBay as people have buyer's remorse after they see second hand resale values.
There's a big difference between stating opinions and just being an ass about things. I actually agree with the majority that this is overpriced, nonetheless people are acting as if this is the devil incarnate. As to why it sold out, seems to me you are just guessing. Apparently one copy already sold on ebay for over twice the original cost, so we'll see if you're right about "second hand resale values"
2 selling over asking before they are released means nothing.
I agree with Jone, there will be virtually zero secondary market and if there is it will be at minimal mark-up.
The Box will look nice on a shelf for a street fighter collector so it has that going for it. Anyone buying to flip better do it while the iron is hot, in 6 months to a year no one will give a shit.
They have been selling consistently for over $250. Example: opening bid $0.99, sold on Nov 19th for $256 + shipping
We still have what, 4 months to see if your prediction that "no on ewill give a shit" is true, but my money is that you're wrong. People do "give a shit" when it comes to classic games. This is something that fans and Nintendo need to realize! I'm hoping Capcom realizes this and we'll see some great SNES carts released!
I predict that trying to predict the video game market has a 50% chance of being wrong.
This is 2017. Reproduction carts can be made in 1 offs for $25 or so. Boxes and manuals in print runs as low as 100 can be made around $10-$15 a piece. Due to simple economies of scale, if you do a production run as large as 5000+, I'm sure costs are likely half of that,at most... maybe even 1/3rd of that. Not to mention $20 in shipping when you can probably ship to Zimbabwe for that price.
It's a forum of opinions and if you can't tolerate opinions than move along. It sold out because of mass marketing hype, not because of quality. And don't worry, there will be ample opportunities to buy them on eBay as people have buyer's remorse after they see second hand resale values.
There's a big difference between stating opinions and just being an ass about things. I actually agree with the majority that this is overpriced, nonetheless people are acting as if this is the devil incarnate. As to why it sold out, seems to me you are just guessing. Apparently one copy already sold on ebay for over twice the original cost, so we'll see if you're right about "second hand resale values"
2 selling over asking before they are released means nothing.
I agree with Jone, there will be virtually zero secondary market and if there is it will be at minimal mark-up.
The Box will look nice on a shelf for a street fighter collector so it has that going for it. Anyone buying to flip better do it while the iron is hot, in 6 months to a year no one will give a shit.
They have been selling consistently for over $250. Example: opening bid $0.99, sold on Nov 19th for $256 + shipping
We still have what, 4 months to see if your prediction that "no on ewill give a shit" is true, but my money is that you're wrong. People do "give a shit" when it comes to classic games. This is something that fans and Nintendo need to realize! I'm hoping Capcom realizes this and we'll see some great SNES carts released!
People give a shit about classic games?!?!? Are you sure? And here I was saving all these plastic squares because I wanted to make a cool chair.
/sarcasm
If you are going to necro quote me at least have a good argument. I said “6 months to a year” first off. So not sure where your “we have 4 months“ timeline is coming from.
Second, some sold for a lot less than that, make sure to include that in your argument. Make sure to check for shill bids too
Last, I still stand by the fact that no one will give a shit about these. In time will a few sell over MSRP? Of course. Because the supply is low. But these have ZERO long lasting collector value outside of expensive shelf candy. Thats all expensive repros are, is shelf candy. It has zero room to increase in value.
Let me ask people - would you rather have the SF 30th, or a copy of kid klown? Would you trade your pocky and rocky for that repro if you werent a rabid SF collector? Most likely not.
Yeah, except for the fact that "auction" was fake and shill bid to hell by the seller. It was relisted and then sold for $135. And that's with this scumbag scammer trying to shill bid his auctions up.
Exactly. Its no coincidence that all the sudden a zero feedback bidder shows up.
The thing is, a lot of people don't understand how ebay works. You have scammers that buy up a bunch of their own high priced BIN auctions using dummy accounts in order to try and fool people into thinking that it's actually selling for that amount all the time. They can relist this shit over and over again with no repercussions and hope that some dumb mark bites for real, which given how many dumb-dumbs are in this hobby will certainly happen. This shit happens ALL THE FUCKING TIME, and yet people like to pretend like ebay sold "auctions" are always completely legit.
The thing is, a lot of people don't understand how ebay works. You have scammers that buy up a bunch of their own high priced BIN auctions using dummy accounts in order to try and fool people into thinking that it's actually selling for that amount all the time. They can relist this shit over and over again with no repercussions and hope that some dumb mark bites for real, which given how many dumb-dumbs are in this hobby will certainly happen. This shit happens ALL THE FUCKING TIME, and yet people like to pretend like ebay sold "auctions" are always completely legit.
Especially when you can't readily see the obscured account name and feedback number for a BIN winner.
The thing is, a lot of people don't understand how ebay works. You have scammers that buy up a bunch of their own high priced BIN auctions using dummy accounts in order to try and fool people into thinking that it's actually selling for that amount all the time. They can relist this shit over and over again with no repercussions and hope that some dumb mark bites for real, which given how many dumb-dumbs are in this hobby will certainly happen. This shit happens ALL THE FUCKING TIME, and yet people like to pretend like ebay sold "auctions" are always completely legit.
Shill bidding, yes, I can see it happen. "All the time", that I do not know. Do you have evidence other than heresay to actually support this claim? I would be interested in seeing it. I also would imagine it's difficult to know/prove unless you have all the details such as transaction cancellations, etc.
By the way, here are the prices for all sold carts according to an ebay search:
$135
259.95
256
269.08
249.99
202.5
219.99
260
249.99
226
250
270
453.53
389.95
475
475
220
178.5
Let's imagine some of those are shill bids, but I find it extremely improbable that most of them are. Are people implying that those with zero feedback are shill bidders? Perhaps, but again, without evidence it's heresay. Also, here is from the auction that went for $226. Second-highest bidder has a feedback of 253.
MrWunderful, your post "in 6 months to a year no one will give a shit." was dated September 1st, so March 1st would be 6 months. It's almost December, and it looks like the item is still hot. If you're talking about 20 years from now that is a different matter, but you specifically said 6-12 months. I think in a year these will sell for around the same value, perhaps more, so 2-3 times original cost. Myself, I thought about it but ended up not purchasing a copy. Maybe it is just a quick "money grab" on Capcom's part, but so what? I personally think it's still quite cool and hope to see more officially liscensed reproductions.
I'm sure some of them are legit because there are a lot of really stupid people in this hobby, but I still find it hard to believe that someone spent nearly $500 on a fucking red Street Fighter II repro.
I'm still dont see even buying this for $50. I'm glad Jaleco went the opposite way and released better priced repros and they had multiple games. The way Capcom has been devaluing their IPs I wouldn't shocked to see their titles on tons of consoles and repros moving forward.
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I now see they were limiting to 2. One to throw on the shelf and one to flip!
Or two.
With this selling out (much more quickly than I imagined) I have no doubts a lot of other companies will be looking at the success and wondering how they utilize their older games to make more than a couple of bucks via the Virtual Console or similar. It'll be interesting to see if the future holds more of this kind of treatment or if we'll start to see more interesting projects.
One thing nobody has really mentioned (except the brief discussion of Sweet Home) is the possible market for games that were not released in the U.S. back in the day. There are quite a few of these that I think would generate a lot of interest, including with many of those who haven't been enthusiastic about SFII in this thread - myself included. Think about an official USA NTSC NES Mr. Gimmick or Kid Dracula or something. I think that sort of thing would be awesome and much more worth it than SFII, as long as they don't price it too crazy high. What do folks think? If Konami agreed to let iam8bit release an NES version of Kid Dracula in the same manner for $50? I'd click buy without a second thought, personally.
That would take some actual effort since they might have to do a translation or modify a ROM, so it's never going to happen. These guys are the epitome of lazy.
My advice to everyone that bought into this is to flip this shit as soon as you can. Once the hype wears off people will wise up to the fact that spending $100+ for a repro of a $10 common makes no fucking sense. Oh, and those carts are ugly as sin with that cheap looking colored plastic.
Originally posted by: pegboy
Originally posted by: elprincipe
With this selling out (much more quickly than I imagined) I have no doubts a lot of other companies will be looking at the success and wondering how they utilize their older games to make more than a couple of bucks via the Virtual Console or similar. It'll be interesting to see if the future holds more of this kind of treatment or if we'll start to see more interesting projects.
One thing nobody has really mentioned (except the brief discussion of Sweet Home) is the possible market for games that were not released in the U.S. back in the day. There are quite a few of these that I think would generate a lot of interest, including with many of those who haven't been enthusiastic about SFII in this thread - myself included. Think about an official USA NTSC NES Mr. Gimmick or Kid Dracula or something. I think that sort of thing would be awesome and much more worth it than SFII, as long as they don't price it too crazy high. What do folks think? If Konami agreed to let iam8bit release an NES version of Kid Dracula in the same manner for $50? I'd click buy without a second thought, personally.
That would take some actual effort since they might have to do a translation or modify a ROM, so it's never going to happen. These guys are the epitome of lazy.
My advice to everyone that bought into this is to flip this shit as soon as you can. Once the hype wears off people will wise up to the fact that spending $100+ for a repro of a $10 common makes no fucking sense. Oh, and those carts are ugly as sin with that cheap looking colored plastic.
Or you know, keep it because not everyone looks at a game collection like a financial investment.
the warnings about the fire hazard was stated because iam8bit and capcom cannot assure that the original console being several decades old can withstand rigorous play that a new cartridge would demand..
And yet no warning was given with the Duck Tales carts, which were played on consoles years older...
I'd be genuinely curious to know how well this would sell if it wasn't limited.
Good question.
I dont get why so many people are willing to support shit like this. This release is insulting at best and exploitive at worst:
Consider these points:
http://store.capcom.com/store/capcomus/en_US/pd/ThemeID.1944700/productID.5130375200/Street-Fighter-II-SNES.html
This is 2017. Reproduction carts can be made in 1 offs for $25 or so. Boxes and manuals in print runs as low as 100 can be made around $10-$15 a piece. Due to simple economies of scale, if you do a production run as large as 5000+, I'm sure costs are likely half of that,at most... maybe even 1/3rd of that. Not to mention $20 in shipping when you can probably ship to Zimbabwe for that price.
It's a forum of opinions and if you can't tolerate opinions than move along. It sold out because of mass marketing hype, not because of quality. And don't worry, there will be ample opportunities to buy them on eBay as people have buyer's remorse after they see second hand resale values.
There's a big difference between stating opinions and just being an ass about things. I actually agree with the majority that this is overpriced, nonetheless people are acting as if this is the devil incarnate. As to why it sold out, seems to me you are just guessing. Apparently one copy already sold on ebay for over twice the original cost, so we'll see if you're right about "second hand resale values"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Street-Fi...
2 selling over asking before they are released means nothing.
I agree with Jone, there will be virtually zero secondary market and if there is it will be at minimal mark-up.
The Box will look nice on a shelf for a street fighter collector so it has that going for it. Anyone buying to flip better do it while the iron is hot, in 6 months to a year no one will give a shit.
They have been selling consistently for over $250. Example: opening bid $0.99, sold on Nov 19th for $256 + shipping
https://www.ebay.com/itm/STREET-FIGHTER-II-2-30TH-ANNIVERSARY-EDITION-SNES-5500-LIMITED-EDITION-Presale-/282729057265
We still have what, 4 months to see if your prediction that "no on ewill give a shit" is true, but my money is that you're wrong. People do "give a shit" when it comes to classic games. This is something that fans and Nintendo need to realize! I'm hoping Capcom realizes this and we'll see some great SNES carts released!
This is 2017. Reproduction carts can be made in 1 offs for $25 or so. Boxes and manuals in print runs as low as 100 can be made around $10-$15 a piece. Due to simple economies of scale, if you do a production run as large as 5000+, I'm sure costs are likely half of that,at most... maybe even 1/3rd of that. Not to mention $20 in shipping when you can probably ship to Zimbabwe for that price.
It's a forum of opinions and if you can't tolerate opinions than move along. It sold out because of mass marketing hype, not because of quality. And don't worry, there will be ample opportunities to buy them on eBay as people have buyer's remorse after they see second hand resale values.
There's a big difference between stating opinions and just being an ass about things. I actually agree with the majority that this is overpriced, nonetheless people are acting as if this is the devil incarnate. As to why it sold out, seems to me you are just guessing. Apparently one copy already sold on ebay for over twice the original cost, so we'll see if you're right about "second hand resale values"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Street-Fi...
2 selling over asking before they are released means nothing.
I agree with Jone, there will be virtually zero secondary market and if there is it will be at minimal mark-up.
The Box will look nice on a shelf for a street fighter collector so it has that going for it. Anyone buying to flip better do it while the iron is hot, in 6 months to a year no one will give a shit.
They have been selling consistently for over $250. Example: opening bid $0.99, sold on Nov 19th for $256 + shipping
https://www.ebay.com/itm/STREET-F...
We still have what, 4 months to see if your prediction that "no on ewill give a shit" is true, but my money is that you're wrong. People do "give a shit" when it comes to classic games. This is something that fans and Nintendo need to realize! I'm hoping Capcom realizes this and we'll see some great SNES carts released!
I predict that trying to predict the video game market has a 50% chance of being wrong.
This is 2017. Reproduction carts can be made in 1 offs for $25 or so. Boxes and manuals in print runs as low as 100 can be made around $10-$15 a piece. Due to simple economies of scale, if you do a production run as large as 5000+, I'm sure costs are likely half of that,at most... maybe even 1/3rd of that. Not to mention $20 in shipping when you can probably ship to Zimbabwe for that price.
It's a forum of opinions and if you can't tolerate opinions than move along. It sold out because of mass marketing hype, not because of quality. And don't worry, there will be ample opportunities to buy them on eBay as people have buyer's remorse after they see second hand resale values.
There's a big difference between stating opinions and just being an ass about things. I actually agree with the majority that this is overpriced, nonetheless people are acting as if this is the devil incarnate. As to why it sold out, seems to me you are just guessing. Apparently one copy already sold on ebay for over twice the original cost, so we'll see if you're right about "second hand resale values"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Street-Fi...
2 selling over asking before they are released means nothing.
I agree with Jone, there will be virtually zero secondary market and if there is it will be at minimal mark-up.
The Box will look nice on a shelf for a street fighter collector so it has that going for it. Anyone buying to flip better do it while the iron is hot, in 6 months to a year no one will give a shit.
They have been selling consistently for over $250. Example: opening bid $0.99, sold on Nov 19th for $256 + shipping
https://www.ebay.com/itm/STREET-F...
We still have what, 4 months to see if your prediction that "no on ewill give a shit" is true, but my money is that you're wrong. People do "give a shit" when it comes to classic games. This is something that fans and Nintendo need to realize! I'm hoping Capcom realizes this and we'll see some great SNES carts released!
People give a shit about classic games?!?!? Are you sure? And here I was saving all these plastic squares because I wanted to make a cool chair.
/sarcasm
If you are going to necro quote me at least have a good argument. I said “6 months to a year” first off. So not sure where your “we have 4 months“ timeline is coming from.
Second, some sold for a lot less than that, make sure to include that in your argument. Make sure to check for shill bids too
Last, I still stand by the fact that no one will give a shit about these. In time will a few sell over MSRP? Of course. Because the supply is low. But these have ZERO long lasting collector value outside of expensive shelf candy. Thats all expensive repros are, is shelf candy. It has zero room to increase in value.
Let me ask people - would you rather have the SF 30th, or a copy of kid klown? Would you trade your pocky and rocky for that repro if you werent a rabid SF collector? Most likely not.
Yeah, except for the fact that "auction" was fake and shill bid to hell by the seller. It was relisted and then sold for $135. And that's with this scumbag scammer trying to shill bid his auctions up.
Exactly. Its no coincidence that all the sudden a zero feedback bidder shows up.
The thing is, a lot of people don't understand how ebay works. You have scammers that buy up a bunch of their own high priced BIN auctions using dummy accounts in order to try and fool people into thinking that it's actually selling for that amount all the time. They can relist this shit over and over again with no repercussions and hope that some dumb mark bites for real, which given how many dumb-dumbs are in this hobby will certainly happen. This shit happens ALL THE FUCKING TIME, and yet people like to pretend like ebay sold "auctions" are always completely legit.
Especially when you can't readily see the obscured account name and feedback number for a BIN winner.
The thing is, a lot of people don't understand how ebay works. You have scammers that buy up a bunch of their own high priced BIN auctions using dummy accounts in order to try and fool people into thinking that it's actually selling for that amount all the time. They can relist this shit over and over again with no repercussions and hope that some dumb mark bites for real, which given how many dumb-dumbs are in this hobby will certainly happen. This shit happens ALL THE FUCKING TIME, and yet people like to pretend like ebay sold "auctions" are always completely legit.
Agree completely.
By the way, here are the prices for all sold carts according to an ebay search:
$135
259.95
256
269.08
249.99
202.5
219.99
260
249.99
226
250
270
453.53
389.95
475
475
220
178.5
Let's imagine some of those are shill bids, but I find it extremely improbable that most of them are. Are people implying that those with zero feedback are shill bidders? Perhaps, but again, without evidence it's heresay. Also, here is from the auction that went for $226. Second-highest bidder has a feedback of 253.
MrWunderful, your post "in 6 months to a year no one will give a shit." was dated September 1st, so March 1st would be 6 months. It's almost December, and it looks like the item is still hot. If you're talking about 20 years from now that is a different matter, but you specifically said 6-12 months. I think in a year these will sell for around the same value, perhaps more, so 2-3 times original cost. Myself, I thought about it but ended up not purchasing a copy. Maybe it is just a quick "money grab" on Capcom's part, but so what? I personally think it's still quite cool and hope to see more officially liscensed reproductions.