Did those guys as the 92 "Dream Team" ever make it to any console releases? Could you play as that collective team, even if it meant unlocking them? Just wondered this ...
I haven’t played 2K18 yet, but they were in 2K17.
Should I get 2k18 or 2k18 legend? It’s actually a gift for my brother in law.
Did those guys as the 92 "Dream Team" ever make it to any console releases? Could you play as that collective team, even if it meant unlocking them? Just wondered this ...
I haven’t played 2K18 yet, but they were in 2K17.
Should I get 2k18 or 2k18 legend? It’s actually a gift for my brother in law.
I would personally say just the regular version. The legend, gold, or whatever version they call it now is just a bunch of in game currency and MyTeam packs, basically. You are basically paying upfront, albeit at a discount, for their micro transactions.
The fact that guys like laettner, Stockton and mullin were on this team ahead of isiah Thomas is criminal! Still bother me to this day as much as it did in 1992
The fact that guys like laettner, Stockton and mullin were on this team ahead of isiah Thomas is criminal! Still bother me to this day as much as it did in 1992
I was also turned off by not having him on the roster. I vaguely remember Jordan and possibly others took issue with Thomas in that era and wasn't sure if that had anything to do with the decision. Really odd, especially with Chuck Daly being the Dream Team coach.
Team USA on the Sega Genesis was made directly to cash in on this. If you enjoyed the "VS" basketball titles from EA that came out 90-93 then you'll like it.
The fact that guys like laettner, Stockton and mullin were on this team ahead of isiah Thomas is criminal! Still bother me to this day as much as it did in 1992
I was also turned off by not having him on the roster. I vaguely remember Jordan and possibly others took issue with Thomas in that era and wasn't sure if that had anything to do with the decision. Really odd, especially with Chuck Daly being the Dream Team coach.
The first 11 roster spots were already selected by February 1992. The 12th spot actually came down to Drexler vs Isiah, and the official reason given was that Drexler had a better regular season in 1991-92, so he was given the final spot. The reality is that Michael, Larry, and even Magic Johnson, absolutely hated Isiah Thomas by this time. Isiah had alledgedly been going around behind Magic's back and telling everyone that he contracted HIV because he was secretly gay. Back in 1992, it still wasn't socially acceptable in the American culture to be gay, and Magic took it as a huge insult that someone who he thought was his best friend was going around saying that about him. Isiah had gone on record to say that if Larry Bird was black, he would just be an average player that nobody would care about. And Isiah always hated Jordan because Jordan stole the city of Chicago away from Isiah. In the early 80s Isiah Thomas was beloved in Chicago. Jordan turned his own city against him. In the 1985 All-Star Game, Isiah went behind Jordan's back and told everybody else on the East to freeze Jordan out and not pass him the ball. Jordan found out about it and hated Isiah ever since. So Isiah has very bad blood with all three of them. Those three guys all blacklisted Isiah no doubt about it.
Also on the topic of Chris Mullin, he was one of the only guys on the Dream Team who was not considered to be very good when he first entered the NBA, he seemed to be below average if anything. He was a pretty bad alcoholic in fact. In the 1987 Playoffs Mullin was pretty much a complete non-factor in the Playoffs, Sleepy Floyd was the Warriors big star back then. Chris Mullin totally turned his life and basketball career around by the end of 1989. It's actually pretty crazy the difference between the 1987 Warriors team and the 1989 Warriors team in terms of roster and talent.
Also yes, Larry ruined his NBA career by paving his mothers driveway all by himself, that is what destroyed his back the 2nd half of his career. There was nobody else like Larry. No matter how wealthy he became, he never changed. Nobody was more stubborn and hard working than him, especially after his Father commited suicide, Larry was just a true redneck in every sense, and he was from a very tiny town in the heartland of the country. For years he didn't even feel comfortable speaking to the press. In the 80s you used to be able to go to Boston in the Spring and Summer and you would be able to watch Larry mow his humble front lawn all by himself. The guy just hated the thought of paying somebody else to do his work.
The fact that guys like laettner, Stockton and mullin were on this team ahead of isiah Thomas is criminal! Still bother me to this day as much as it did in 1992
I was also turned off by not having him on the roster. I vaguely remember Jordan and possibly others took issue with Thomas in that era and wasn't sure if that had anything to do with the decision. Really odd, especially with Chuck Daly being the Dream Team coach.
Only a couple michiganers would be upset lil zeke didn’t make the cut. Dude was the second best guard on his team lol joe dumars baby!
Do you guys remember those sweet plastic Dream Team cups they had at McDonalds? They had cards too. I was always begging my parents to take me so I could collect more. I played CYO basketball in those years, and I definitely had Dream Team fever.
Regarding Isiah, the rumor was that Jordan gave an ultimatum that he did not want him on the team. Plus, if you remember, Bird was having the back issues then and barely played at all.
Do you guys remember those sweet plastic Dream Team cups they had at McDonalds? They had cards too. I was always begging my parents to take me so I could collect more. I played CYO basketball in those years, and I definitely had Dream Team fever.
Ha i was just thinking about these, i remember trying to get them all and was unsuccessful. I had like 4 karl malones and mullins and never got jordan.
I bet these are going for some decent coin on ebay.....and checking now
The fact that guys like laettner, Stockton and mullin were on this team ahead of isiah Thomas is criminal! Still bother me to this day as much as it did in 1992
I was also turned off by not having him on the roster. I vaguely remember Jordan and possibly others took issue with Thomas in that era and wasn't sure if that had anything to do with the decision. Really odd, especially with Chuck Daly being the Dream Team coach.
Only a couple michiganers would be upset lil zeke didn’t make the cut. Dude was the second best guard on his team lol joe dumars baby!
Lol i highly disagree! But dumars was fantastic!
Little trivia here for gags......does anyone know the 3 nba teams that have won the title withouth a past, current , or future mvp since the aba merger?
Also yes, Larry ruined his NBA career by paving his mothers driveway all by himself, that is what destroyed his back the 2nd half of his career. There was nobody else like Larry. No matter how wealthy he became, he never changed. Nobody was more stubborn and hard working than him, especially after his Father commited suicide, Larry was just a true redneck in every sense, and he was from a very tiny town in the heartland of the country. For years he didn't even feel comfortable speaking to the press. In the 80s you used to be able to go to Boston in the Spring and Summer and you would be able to watch Larry mow his humble front lawn all by himself. The guy just hated the thought of paying somebody else to do his work.
Ha love how much you know about these guys! Bird was so great, it pained me to watch him laying on the court stretching his back to try and get in for a few minutes.
The fact that he led indiana st. To the ncaa finals is one of the more remarkable feats i can think of in college sports.
The fact that guys like laettner, Stockton and mullin were on this team ahead of isiah Thomas is criminal! Still bother me to this day as much as it did in 1992
I was also turned off by not having him on the roster. I vaguely remember Jordan and possibly others took issue with Thomas in that era and wasn't sure if that had anything to do with the decision. Really odd, especially with Chuck Daly being the Dream Team coach.
Only a couple michiganers would be upset lil zeke didn't make the cut. Dude was the second best guard on his team lol joe dumars baby!
Lol i highly disagree! But dumars was fantastic!
Little trivia here for gags......does anyone know the 3 nba teams that have won the title withouth a past, current , or future mvp since the aba merger?
I'll take a stab, the 3 Pistons titles (early 2000's with Billips and Rip and Wallace's and both titles in the late 80's early 90's).
Do you guys remember those sweet plastic Dream Team cups they had at McDonalds? They had cards too. I was always begging my parents to take me so I could collect more. I played CYO basketball in those years, and I definitely had Dream Team fever.
Ha i was just thinking about these, i remember trying to get them all and was unsuccessful. I had like 4 karl malones and mullins and never got jordan.
I bet these are going for some decent coin on ebay.....and checking now
The '92 Olympics has a lot of mystique that I think attributed to Jordan's legendary status. Are we sure Ewing was as good as we think he was? And I don't think Pippen gets enough credit for those Bulls teams.
Maybe the '96 team wins if Shaq goes off. I'm a firm believer that the '92 team would lose to a team of today's stars.
Anyone who thinks the 96 team or a team of todays stars would beat the 92 team is off their rocker. Today's NBA is so soft. Todays players would be flopping and whining all over the court by the physicality of the Dream Team. Jordan's defense is legendary and then you got Barkley and The Admiral up the middle. Forget about it. And don't even get me started on Larry Legend. Toughest SOB the NBA has ever seen. Today's NBA is filled with spoiled, whiny, over paid brats.
The fact that guys like laettner, Stockton and mullin were on this team ahead of isiah Thomas is criminal! Still bother me to this day as much as it did in 1992
I was also turned off by not having him on the roster. I vaguely remember Jordan and possibly others took issue with Thomas in that era and wasn't sure if that had anything to do with the decision. Really odd, especially with Chuck Daly being the Dream Team coach.
Only a couple michiganers would be upset lil zeke didn't make the cut. Dude was the second best guard on his team lol joe dumars baby!
Lol i highly disagree! But dumars was fantastic!
Little trivia here for gags......does anyone know the 3 nba teams that have won the title withouth a past, current , or future mvp since the aba merger?
I'll take a stab, the 3 Pistons titles (early 2000's with Billips and Rip and Wallace's and both titles in the late 80's early 90's).
Bingo! Lol pretty crazy i think that the only team 2 ever do it was detroit and they did it with 2 diff rosters
The '92 Olympics has a lot of mystique that I think attributed to Jordan's legendary status. Are we sure Ewing was as good as we think he was? And I don't think Pippen gets enough credit for those Bulls teams.
Maybe the '96 team wins if Shaq goes off. I'm a firm believer that the '92 team would lose to a team of today's stars.
Anyone who thinks the 96 team or a team of todays stars would beat the 92 team is off their rocker. Today's NBA is so soft. Todays players would be flopping and whining all over the court by the physicality of the Dream Team. Jordan's defense is legendary and then you got Barkley and The Admiral up the middle. Forget about it. And don't even get me started on Larry Legend. Toughest SOB the NBA has ever seen. Today's NBA is filled with spoiled, whiny, over paid brats.
I'll stay off my rocker and take a 9 man rotation of Lebron / Durant / Leonard / Davis / Cousins / Thompson / Green / Harden / Irving against the '92 team. Even with the rules of 1992, the current players create just as many matchup problems for the '92 team, as the '92 team does for a team of today's stars. The difference is the ability to shoot and handle the ball at each position. It wouldn't be a blowout either way.
The '92 Olympics has a lot of mystique that I think attributed to Jordan's legendary status. Are we sure Ewing was as good as we think he was? And I don't think Pippen gets enough credit for those Bulls teams.
Maybe the '96 team wins if Shaq goes off. I'm a firm believer that the '92 team would lose to a team of today's stars.
Anyone who thinks the 96 team or a team of todays stars would beat the 92 team is off their rocker. Today's NBA is so soft. Todays players would be flopping and whining all over the court by the physicality of the Dream Team. Jordan's defense is legendary and then you got Barkley and The Admiral up the middle. Forget about it. And don't even get me started on Larry Legend. Toughest SOB the NBA has ever seen. Today's NBA is filled with spoiled, whiny, over paid brats.
I'll stay off my rocker and take a 9 man rotation of Lebron / Durant / Leonard / Davis / Cousins / Thompson / Green / Harden / Irving against the '92 team. Even with the rules of 1992, the current players create just as many matchup problems for the '92 team, as the '92 team does for a team of today's stars. The difference is the ability to shoot and handle the ball at each position. It wouldn't be a blowout either way.
Jordan is GOAT. He would dominate, period.
Just my opinion. You know what they say, "opinions are like assholes, everyone has one".
The '92 Olympics has a lot of mystique that I think attributed to Jordan's legendary status. Are we sure Ewing was as good as we think he was? And I don't think Pippen gets enough credit for those Bulls teams.
Maybe the '96 team wins if Shaq goes off. I'm a firm believer that the '92 team would lose to a team of today's stars.
Anyone who thinks the 96 team or a team of todays stars would beat the 92 team is off their rocker. Today's NBA is so soft. Todays players would be flopping and whining all over the court by the physicality of the Dream Team. Jordan's defense is legendary and then you got Barkley and The Admiral up the middle. Forget about it. And don't even get me started on Larry Legend. Toughest SOB the NBA has ever seen. Today's NBA is filled with spoiled, whiny, over paid brats.
I'll stay off my rocker and take a 9 man rotation of Lebron / Durant / Leonard / Davis / Cousins / Thompson / Green / Harden / Irving against the '92 team. Even with the rules of 1992, the current players create just as many matchup problems for the '92 team, as the '92 team does for a team of today's stars. The difference is the ability to shoot and handle the ball at each position. It wouldn't be a blowout either way.
Jordan is GOAT. He would dominate, period.
Just my opinion. You know what they say, "opinions are like assholes, everyone has one".
And no Westbrook on your current team?
Westbrook's style, especially after last year, makes him unplayable with a team of stars. Durant has more or less said that he left OKC because he didn't like the style they played. Westbrook might work it out with 'only' George and 'Melo, but that's pushing it. He'd be fearless against Jordan in the final 2:00, but Kyrie would be too.
The '92 Olympics has a lot of mystique that I think attributed to Jordan's legendary status. Are we sure Ewing was as good as we think he was? And I don't think Pippen gets enough credit for those Bulls teams.
Maybe the '96 team wins if Shaq goes off. I'm a firm believer that the '92 team would lose to a team of today's stars.
Anyone who thinks the 96 team or a team of todays stars would beat the 92 team is off their rocker. Today's NBA is so soft. Todays players would be flopping and whining all over the court by the physicality of the Dream Team. Jordan's defense is legendary and then you got Barkley and The Admiral up the middle. Forget about it. And don't even get me started on Larry Legend. Toughest SOB the NBA has ever seen. Today's NBA is filled with spoiled, whiny, over paid brats.
I'll stay off my rocker and take a 9 man rotation of Lebron / Durant / Leonard / Davis / Cousins / Thompson / Green / Harden / Irving against the '92 team. Even with the rules of 1992, the current players create just as many matchup problems for the '92 team, as the '92 team does for a team of today's stars. The difference is the ability to shoot and handle the ball at each position. It wouldn't be a blowout either way.
Jordan is GOAT. He would dominate, period.
Just my opinion. You know what they say, "opinions are like assholes, everyone has one".
Look, this is how I see it. The 92 team has 2-3 top 10 NBA players OF ALL TIME on it with Jordan being unquestionably #1. How many players are top 10 all time in your current team? Lebron... ok, Durant... doubtful. So no one else. Then on the 92 team almost all the other players would make the top 50 NBA all time. You think Cousins or Thompson would ever make the top 50? Cmon man.
The '92 Olympics has a lot of mystique that I think attributed to Jordan's legendary status. Are we sure Ewing was as good as we think he was? And I don't think Pippen gets enough credit for those Bulls teams.
Maybe the '96 team wins if Shaq goes off. I'm a firm believer that the '92 team would lose to a team of today's stars.
Anyone who thinks the 96 team or a team of todays stars would beat the 92 team is off their rocker. Today's NBA is so soft. Todays players would be flopping and whining all over the court by the physicality of the Dream Team. Jordan's defense is legendary and then you got Barkley and The Admiral up the middle. Forget about it. And don't even get me started on Larry Legend. Toughest SOB the NBA has ever seen. Today's NBA is filled with spoiled, whiny, over paid brats.
I'll stay off my rocker and take a 9 man rotation of Lebron / Durant / Leonard / Davis / Cousins / Thompson / Green / Harden / Irving against the '92 team. Even with the rules of 1992, the current players create just as many matchup problems for the '92 team, as the '92 team does for a team of today's stars. The difference is the ability to shoot and handle the ball at each position. It wouldn't be a blowout either way.
Jordan is GOAT. He would dominate, period.
Just my opinion. You know what they say, "opinions are like assholes, everyone has one".
And no Westbrook on your current team?
Never been a huge Jordan fan. One word - travels.
Have you watched the current NBA? Traveling is rampant. I can see how you can say Jordan traveled a lot but he did everything else perfectly. Defense, clutch shooting, explosivness to the basket, crazy perfect jump shot, played hurt and sick, never lost an NBA finals, was MVP in all six NBA finals, shall I continue....
How about shooting 82% from the free throw line with his eyes closed? Thats an actual stat. He shot 11 free throws with his eyes closed and made 9. I think 2 or 3 of them were in exhibiton games but the rest were in real NBA games. You can watch them all on you tube.
The '92 Olympics has a lot of mystique that I think attributed to Jordan's legendary status. Are we sure Ewing was as good as we think he was? And I don't think Pippen gets enough credit for those Bulls teams.
Maybe the '96 team wins if Shaq goes off. I'm a firm believer that the '92 team would lose to a team of today's stars.
Anyone who thinks the 96 team or a team of todays stars would beat the 92 team is off their rocker. Today's NBA is so soft. Todays players would be flopping and whining all over the court by the physicality of the Dream Team. Jordan's defense is legendary and then you got Barkley and The Admiral up the middle. Forget about it. And don't even get me started on Larry Legend. Toughest SOB the NBA has ever seen. Today's NBA is filled with spoiled, whiny, over paid brats.
I'll stay off my rocker and take a 9 man rotation of Lebron / Durant / Leonard / Davis / Cousins / Thompson / Green / Harden / Irving against the '92 team. Even with the rules of 1992, the current players create just as many matchup problems for the '92 team, as the '92 team does for a team of today's stars. The difference is the ability to shoot and handle the ball at each position. It wouldn't be a blowout either way.
Jordan is GOAT. He would dominate, period.
Just my opinion. You know what they say, "opinions are like assholes, everyone has one".
And no Westbrook on your current team?
Never been a huge Jordan fan. One word - travels.
Have you watched the current NBA? Traveling is rampant. I can see how you can say Jordan traveled a lot but he did everything else perfectly. Defense, clutch shooting, explosivness to the basket, crazy perfect jump shot, played hurt and sick, never lost an NBA finals, was MVP in all six NBA finals, shall I continue....
How about shooting 82% from the free throw line with his eyes closed? Thats an actual stat. He shot 11 free throws with his eyes closed and made 9. I think 2 or 3 of them were in exhibiton games but the rest were in real NBA games. You can watch them all on you tube.
Look, this is how I see it. The 92 team has 2-3 top 10 NBA players OF ALL TIME on it with Jordan being unquestionably #1. How many players are top 10 all time in you current team? Lebron... ok, Durant... doubtful. So no one else. Then on the 92 team almost all the other players would make the top 50 NBA all time. You think Cousins or Thompson would ever make the top 50? Cmon man.
You can't make that comparison when their careers are still ongoing. Most of those guys are under 30. If you cut Jordan's career off at 30, he wouldn't be considered the GOAT.
Fair enough. Honestly though if you had to project, how many do you think make the top 50, the top 20 or top 10? Just for fun if you had to guess. IDK I just don't see it. I think the 92 Dream Team is the greatest team ever assembled in any sport. Call me crazy.
Oh and Jordan won 3 championships in a row before he turned 30.... just saying.
Fair enough. Honestly though if you had to project, how many do you think make the top 50, the top 20 or top 10? Just for fun if you had to guess. IDK I just don't see it. I think the 92 Dream Team is the greatest team ever assembled in any sport. Call me crazy.
It all comes down to longevity. People forget that Kobe broke down the last 4-5 years after re-inventing himself once already. Malone, Stockton, Jordan, Kareem, Duncan and others all had incredible longevity and were able to avoid injury. There are tons of very skillful players that rank lower on the all-time list than their talent would suggest like Walton, Rose, Roy, Wade, etc.
LeBron is an alien, and he is the only one I'd bet money on. He'll likely end up as the greatest regular season player at minimum. The amount of minutes he has played thus far is insane. If he holds up, it'd be incredible.
The Top 10 of All-time list is centered around the center area where basketball hadn't progressed to where it is now. No matter the era, the coach wouldn't play 3 or 4 of Kareem, Wilt, Russell, Shaq, Duncan all at the same time. From the '92 team, Magic and Jordan are certainly in the top 10, but '92 Bird was not Larry Legend. I think it's important to look at the players' skills at that point in time, if we're talking about a team vs. team game.
I'm not arguing against Hall of Fame status. I'm saying that if I had a time machine to go back and get the '92 team the moment it landed in Barcelona and took them to Madison Square Garden tomorrow and had them play a team of current players that had the exact same amount of time to prepare as the '92 team, today's players would win by a small margin.
Fair enough. Honestly though if you had to project, how many do you think make the top 50, the top 20 or top 10? Just for fun if you had to guess. IDK I just don't see it. I think the 92 Dream Team is the greatest team ever assembled in any sport. Call me crazy.
Oh and Jordan won 3 championships in a row before he turned 30.... just saying.
He won 3 in a row by 30, briefly retired to try his hand at baseball, then came back to basketball and promptly won 3 more in a row. It was obscene. And as much as I liked those Rockets teams that won the 2 years that Jordan took off, you've got to wonder what would have happened had MJ not gone on haitus.
Fair enough. Honestly though if you had to project, how many do you think make the top 50, the top 20 or top 10? Just for fun if you had to guess. IDK I just don't see it. I think the 92 Dream Team is the greatest team ever assembled in any sport. Call me crazy.
Oh and Jordan won 3 championships in a row before he turned 30.... just saying.
He won 2 before age 30, and he turned 30 during in February of the '92-'93 season (his third). Stephen Curry has as many rings as Jordan did at the same age. Curry will turn 30 during this '17 - '18 season.
Kobe went to 3 straight finals twice as well. His Finals losses are to the aforementioned Pistons team and the '08 Celtics, another loaded team. LeBron has went to 7 straight Finals, and he only took a 2 week break, instead of 2 years (I'm playfully joking here).
Alrighty, in all seriousness, I won't hijack this thread anymore. I agree to disagree!
Edit: If Jordan didn't take the 2 years off, the team likely could have still won 6 titles, but certainly not 8. By all accounts, the last Bulls team was on fumes and won off will. The same attrition would've happened, just earlier in the span of time. There would've been a rebuilding period. My dream scenario is the Jazz win a title, forcing the angry (at Stockton/Malone) Michael Jordan Bulls to re-load and meet the 2000s Lakers.
Its fun to debate these things. No worries. I would love to see LaFlop whine and moan when Jordan shut him down defensively... lol. We will never know.
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Did those guys as the 92 "Dream Team" ever make it to any console releases? Could you play as that collective team, even if it meant unlocking them? Just wondered this ...
I haven’t played 2K18 yet, but they were in 2K17.
Should I get 2k18 or 2k18 legend? It’s actually a gift for my brother in law.
Did those guys as the 92 "Dream Team" ever make it to any console releases? Could you play as that collective team, even if it meant unlocking them? Just wondered this ...
I haven’t played 2K18 yet, but they were in 2K17.
Should I get 2k18 or 2k18 legend? It’s actually a gift for my brother in law.
I would personally say just the regular version. The legend, gold, or whatever version they call it now is just a bunch of in game currency and MyTeam packs, basically. You are basically paying upfront, albeit at a discount, for their micro transactions.
The fact that guys like laettner, Stockton and mullin were on this team ahead of isiah Thomas is criminal! Still bother me to this day as much as it did in 1992
I was also turned off by not having him on the roster. I vaguely remember Jordan and possibly others took issue with Thomas in that era and wasn't sure if that had anything to do with the decision. Really odd, especially with Chuck Daly being the Dream Team coach.
Originally posted by: Stryphos
Originally posted by: BilltownSparty
The fact that guys like laettner, Stockton and mullin were on this team ahead of isiah Thomas is criminal! Still bother me to this day as much as it did in 1992
I was also turned off by not having him on the roster. I vaguely remember Jordan and possibly others took issue with Thomas in that era and wasn't sure if that had anything to do with the decision. Really odd, especially with Chuck Daly being the Dream Team coach.
The first 11 roster spots were already selected by February 1992. The 12th spot actually came down to Drexler vs Isiah, and the official reason given was that Drexler had a better regular season in 1991-92, so he was given the final spot. The reality is that Michael, Larry, and even Magic Johnson, absolutely hated Isiah Thomas by this time. Isiah had alledgedly been going around behind Magic's back and telling everyone that he contracted HIV because he was secretly gay. Back in 1992, it still wasn't socially acceptable in the American culture to be gay, and Magic took it as a huge insult that someone who he thought was his best friend was going around saying that about him. Isiah had gone on record to say that if Larry Bird was black, he would just be an average player that nobody would care about. And Isiah always hated Jordan because Jordan stole the city of Chicago away from Isiah. In the early 80s Isiah Thomas was beloved in Chicago. Jordan turned his own city against him. In the 1985 All-Star Game, Isiah went behind Jordan's back and told everybody else on the East to freeze Jordan out and not pass him the ball. Jordan found out about it and hated Isiah ever since. So Isiah has very bad blood with all three of them. Those three guys all blacklisted Isiah no doubt about it.
Also on the topic of Chris Mullin, he was one of the only guys on the Dream Team who was not considered to be very good when he first entered the NBA, he seemed to be below average if anything. He was a pretty bad alcoholic in fact. In the 1987 Playoffs Mullin was pretty much a complete non-factor in the Playoffs, Sleepy Floyd was the Warriors big star back then. Chris Mullin totally turned his life and basketball career around by the end of 1989. It's actually pretty crazy the difference between the 1987 Warriors team and the 1989 Warriors team in terms of roster and talent.
The fact that guys like laettner, Stockton and mullin were on this team ahead of isiah Thomas is criminal! Still bother me to this day as much as it did in 1992
I was also turned off by not having him on the roster. I vaguely remember Jordan and possibly others took issue with Thomas in that era and wasn't sure if that had anything to do with the decision. Really odd, especially with Chuck Daly being the Dream Team coach.
Only a couple michiganers would be upset lil zeke didn’t make the cut. Dude was the second best guard on his team lol joe dumars baby!
Bird
Johnson
Barkley
Stockton
Malone
Drexler
Ewing
Robinson
Pippen
Mullin
Laettner
Do you guys remember those sweet plastic Dream Team cups they had at McDonalds? They had cards too. I was always begging my parents to take me so I could collect more. I played CYO basketball in those years, and I definitely had Dream Team fever.
Jordan
Bird
Johnson
Barkley
Stockton
Malone
Drexler
Ewing
Robinson
Pippen
Mullin
Laettner
Do you guys remember those sweet plastic Dream Team cups they had at McDonalds? They had cards too. I was always begging my parents to take me so I could collect more. I played CYO basketball in those years, and I definitely had Dream Team fever.
Ha i was just thinking about these, i remember trying to get them all and was unsuccessful. I had like 4 karl malones and mullins and never got jordan.
I bet these are going for some decent coin on ebay.....and checking now
The fact that guys like laettner, Stockton and mullin were on this team ahead of isiah Thomas is criminal! Still bother me to this day as much as it did in 1992
I was also turned off by not having him on the roster. I vaguely remember Jordan and possibly others took issue with Thomas in that era and wasn't sure if that had anything to do with the decision. Really odd, especially with Chuck Daly being the Dream Team coach.
Only a couple michiganers would be upset lil zeke didn’t make the cut. Dude was the second best guard on his team lol joe dumars baby!
Lol i highly disagree! But dumars was fantastic!
Little trivia here for gags......does anyone know the 3 nba teams that have won the title withouth a past, current , or future mvp since the aba merger?
Also yes, Larry ruined his NBA career by paving his mothers driveway all by himself, that is what destroyed his back the 2nd half of his career. There was nobody else like Larry. No matter how wealthy he became, he never changed. Nobody was more stubborn and hard working than him, especially after his Father commited suicide, Larry was just a true redneck in every sense, and he was from a very tiny town in the heartland of the country. For years he didn't even feel comfortable speaking to the press. In the 80s you used to be able to go to Boston in the Spring and Summer and you would be able to watch Larry mow his humble front lawn all by himself. The guy just hated the thought of paying somebody else to do his work.
Ha love how much you know about these guys! Bird was so great, it pained me to watch him laying on the court stretching his back to try and get in for a few minutes.
The fact that he led indiana st. To the ncaa finals is one of the more remarkable feats i can think of in college sports.
The fact that guys like laettner, Stockton and mullin were on this team ahead of isiah Thomas is criminal! Still bother me to this day as much as it did in 1992
I was also turned off by not having him on the roster. I vaguely remember Jordan and possibly others took issue with Thomas in that era and wasn't sure if that had anything to do with the decision. Really odd, especially with Chuck Daly being the Dream Team coach.
Only a couple michiganers would be upset lil zeke didn't make the cut. Dude was the second best guard on his team lol joe dumars baby!
Lol i highly disagree! But dumars was fantastic!
Little trivia here for gags......does anyone know the 3 nba teams that have won the title withouth a past, current , or future mvp since the aba merger?
I'll take a stab, the 3 Pistons titles (early 2000's with Billips and Rip and Wallace's and both titles in the late 80's early 90's).
Jordan
Bird
Johnson
Barkley
Stockton
Malone
Drexler
Ewing
Robinson
Pippen
Mullin
Laettner
Do you guys remember those sweet plastic Dream Team cups they had at McDonalds? They had cards too. I was always begging my parents to take me so I could collect more. I played CYO basketball in those years, and I definitely had Dream Team fever.
Ha i was just thinking about these, i remember trying to get them all and was unsuccessful. I had like 4 karl malones and mullins and never got jordan.
I bet these are going for some decent coin on ebay.....and checking now
I tried as well. I never got Bird or Jordan.
The '92 Olympics has a lot of mystique that I think attributed to Jordan's legendary status. Are we sure Ewing was as good as we think he was? And I don't think Pippen gets enough credit for those Bulls teams.
Maybe the '96 team wins if Shaq goes off. I'm a firm believer that the '92 team would lose to a team of today's stars.
Anyone who thinks the 96 team or a team of todays stars would beat the 92 team is off their rocker. Today's NBA is so soft. Todays players would be flopping and whining all over the court by the physicality of the Dream Team. Jordan's defense is legendary and then you got Barkley and The Admiral up the middle. Forget about it. And don't even get me started on Larry Legend. Toughest SOB the NBA has ever seen. Today's NBA is filled with spoiled, whiny, over paid brats.
The fact that guys like laettner, Stockton and mullin were on this team ahead of isiah Thomas is criminal! Still bother me to this day as much as it did in 1992
I was also turned off by not having him on the roster. I vaguely remember Jordan and possibly others took issue with Thomas in that era and wasn't sure if that had anything to do with the decision. Really odd, especially with Chuck Daly being the Dream Team coach.
Only a couple michiganers would be upset lil zeke didn't make the cut. Dude was the second best guard on his team lol joe dumars baby!
Lol i highly disagree! But dumars was fantastic!
Little trivia here for gags......does anyone know the 3 nba teams that have won the title withouth a past, current , or future mvp since the aba merger?
I'll take a stab, the 3 Pistons titles (early 2000's with Billips and Rip and Wallace's and both titles in the late 80's early 90's).
Bingo! Lol pretty crazy i think that the only team 2 ever do it was detroit and they did it with 2 diff rosters
The '92 Olympics has a lot of mystique that I think attributed to Jordan's legendary status. Are we sure Ewing was as good as we think he was? And I don't think Pippen gets enough credit for those Bulls teams.
Maybe the '96 team wins if Shaq goes off. I'm a firm believer that the '92 team would lose to a team of today's stars.
Anyone who thinks the 96 team or a team of todays stars would beat the 92 team is off their rocker. Today's NBA is so soft. Todays players would be flopping and whining all over the court by the physicality of the Dream Team. Jordan's defense is legendary and then you got Barkley and The Admiral up the middle. Forget about it. And don't even get me started on Larry Legend. Toughest SOB the NBA has ever seen. Today's NBA is filled with spoiled, whiny, over paid brats.
I'll stay off my rocker and take a 9 man rotation of Lebron / Durant / Leonard / Davis / Cousins / Thompson / Green / Harden / Irving against the '92 team. Even with the rules of 1992, the current players create just as many matchup problems for the '92 team, as the '92 team does for a team of today's stars. The difference is the ability to shoot and handle the ball at each position. It wouldn't be a blowout either way.
The '92 Olympics has a lot of mystique that I think attributed to Jordan's legendary status. Are we sure Ewing was as good as we think he was? And I don't think Pippen gets enough credit for those Bulls teams.
Maybe the '96 team wins if Shaq goes off. I'm a firm believer that the '92 team would lose to a team of today's stars.
Anyone who thinks the 96 team or a team of todays stars would beat the 92 team is off their rocker. Today's NBA is so soft. Todays players would be flopping and whining all over the court by the physicality of the Dream Team. Jordan's defense is legendary and then you got Barkley and The Admiral up the middle. Forget about it. And don't even get me started on Larry Legend. Toughest SOB the NBA has ever seen. Today's NBA is filled with spoiled, whiny, over paid brats.
I'll stay off my rocker and take a 9 man rotation of Lebron / Durant / Leonard / Davis / Cousins / Thompson / Green / Harden / Irving against the '92 team. Even with the rules of 1992, the current players create just as many matchup problems for the '92 team, as the '92 team does for a team of today's stars. The difference is the ability to shoot and handle the ball at each position. It wouldn't be a blowout either way.
Jordan is GOAT. He would dominate, period.
Just my opinion. You know what they say, "opinions are like assholes, everyone has one".
And no Westbrook on your current team?
The '92 Olympics has a lot of mystique that I think attributed to Jordan's legendary status. Are we sure Ewing was as good as we think he was? And I don't think Pippen gets enough credit for those Bulls teams.
Maybe the '96 team wins if Shaq goes off. I'm a firm believer that the '92 team would lose to a team of today's stars.
Anyone who thinks the 96 team or a team of todays stars would beat the 92 team is off their rocker. Today's NBA is so soft. Todays players would be flopping and whining all over the court by the physicality of the Dream Team. Jordan's defense is legendary and then you got Barkley and The Admiral up the middle. Forget about it. And don't even get me started on Larry Legend. Toughest SOB the NBA has ever seen. Today's NBA is filled with spoiled, whiny, over paid brats.
I'll stay off my rocker and take a 9 man rotation of Lebron / Durant / Leonard / Davis / Cousins / Thompson / Green / Harden / Irving against the '92 team. Even with the rules of 1992, the current players create just as many matchup problems for the '92 team, as the '92 team does for a team of today's stars. The difference is the ability to shoot and handle the ball at each position. It wouldn't be a blowout either way.
Jordan is GOAT. He would dominate, period.
Just my opinion. You know what they say, "opinions are like assholes, everyone has one".
And no Westbrook on your current team?
Westbrook's style, especially after last year, makes him unplayable with a team of stars. Durant has more or less said that he left OKC because he didn't like the style they played. Westbrook might work it out with 'only' George and 'Melo, but that's pushing it. He'd be fearless against Jordan in the final 2:00, but Kyrie would be too.
The '92 Olympics has a lot of mystique that I think attributed to Jordan's legendary status. Are we sure Ewing was as good as we think he was? And I don't think Pippen gets enough credit for those Bulls teams.
Maybe the '96 team wins if Shaq goes off. I'm a firm believer that the '92 team would lose to a team of today's stars.
Anyone who thinks the 96 team or a team of todays stars would beat the 92 team is off their rocker. Today's NBA is so soft. Todays players would be flopping and whining all over the court by the physicality of the Dream Team. Jordan's defense is legendary and then you got Barkley and The Admiral up the middle. Forget about it. And don't even get me started on Larry Legend. Toughest SOB the NBA has ever seen. Today's NBA is filled with spoiled, whiny, over paid brats.
I'll stay off my rocker and take a 9 man rotation of Lebron / Durant / Leonard / Davis / Cousins / Thompson / Green / Harden / Irving against the '92 team. Even with the rules of 1992, the current players create just as many matchup problems for the '92 team, as the '92 team does for a team of today's stars. The difference is the ability to shoot and handle the ball at each position. It wouldn't be a blowout either way.
Jordan is GOAT. He would dominate, period.
Just my opinion. You know what they say, "opinions are like assholes, everyone has one".
And no Westbrook on your current team?
Never been a huge Jordan fan. One word - travels.
The '92 Olympics has a lot of mystique that I think attributed to Jordan's legendary status. Are we sure Ewing was as good as we think he was? And I don't think Pippen gets enough credit for those Bulls teams.
Maybe the '96 team wins if Shaq goes off. I'm a firm believer that the '92 team would lose to a team of today's stars.
Anyone who thinks the 96 team or a team of todays stars would beat the 92 team is off their rocker. Today's NBA is so soft. Todays players would be flopping and whining all over the court by the physicality of the Dream Team. Jordan's defense is legendary and then you got Barkley and The Admiral up the middle. Forget about it. And don't even get me started on Larry Legend. Toughest SOB the NBA has ever seen. Today's NBA is filled with spoiled, whiny, over paid brats.
I'll stay off my rocker and take a 9 man rotation of Lebron / Durant / Leonard / Davis / Cousins / Thompson / Green / Harden / Irving against the '92 team. Even with the rules of 1992, the current players create just as many matchup problems for the '92 team, as the '92 team does for a team of today's stars. The difference is the ability to shoot and handle the ball at each position. It wouldn't be a blowout either way.
Jordan is GOAT. He would dominate, period.
Just my opinion. You know what they say, "opinions are like assholes, everyone has one".
And no Westbrook on your current team?
Never been a huge Jordan fan. One word - travels.
Have you watched the current NBA? Traveling is rampant. I can see how you can say Jordan traveled a lot but he did everything else perfectly. Defense, clutch shooting, explosivness to the basket, crazy perfect jump shot, played hurt and sick, never lost an NBA finals, was MVP in all six NBA finals, shall I continue....
How about shooting 82% from the free throw line with his eyes closed? Thats an actual stat. He shot 11 free throws with his eyes closed and made 9. I think 2 or 3 of them were in exhibiton games but the rest were in real NBA games. You can watch them all on you tube.
The '92 Olympics has a lot of mystique that I think attributed to Jordan's legendary status. Are we sure Ewing was as good as we think he was? And I don't think Pippen gets enough credit for those Bulls teams.
Maybe the '96 team wins if Shaq goes off. I'm a firm believer that the '92 team would lose to a team of today's stars.
Anyone who thinks the 96 team or a team of todays stars would beat the 92 team is off their rocker. Today's NBA is so soft. Todays players would be flopping and whining all over the court by the physicality of the Dream Team. Jordan's defense is legendary and then you got Barkley and The Admiral up the middle. Forget about it. And don't even get me started on Larry Legend. Toughest SOB the NBA has ever seen. Today's NBA is filled with spoiled, whiny, over paid brats.
I'll stay off my rocker and take a 9 man rotation of Lebron / Durant / Leonard / Davis / Cousins / Thompson / Green / Harden / Irving against the '92 team. Even with the rules of 1992, the current players create just as many matchup problems for the '92 team, as the '92 team does for a team of today's stars. The difference is the ability to shoot and handle the ball at each position. It wouldn't be a blowout either way.
Jordan is GOAT. He would dominate, period.
Just my opinion. You know what they say, "opinions are like assholes, everyone has one".
And no Westbrook on your current team?
Never been a huge Jordan fan. One word - travels.
Have you watched the current NBA? Traveling is rampant. I can see how you can say Jordan traveled a lot but he did everything else perfectly. Defense, clutch shooting, explosivness to the basket, crazy perfect jump shot, played hurt and sick, never lost an NBA finals, was MVP in all six NBA finals, shall I continue....
How about shooting 82% from the free throw line with his eyes closed? Thats an actual stat. He shot 11 free throws with his eyes closed and made 9. I think 2 or 3 of them were in exhibiton games but the rest were in real NBA games. You can watch them all on you tube.
No I don't watch.
Look, this is how I see it. The 92 team has 2-3 top 10 NBA players OF ALL TIME on it with Jordan being unquestionably #1. How many players are top 10 all time in you current team? Lebron... ok, Durant... doubtful. So no one else. Then on the 92 team almost all the other players would make the top 50 NBA all time. You think Cousins or Thompson would ever make the top 50? Cmon man.
You can't make that comparison when their careers are still ongoing. Most of those guys are under 30. If you cut Jordan's career off at 30, he wouldn't be considered the GOAT.
Oh and Jordan won 3 championships in a row before he turned 30.... just saying.
Fair enough. Honestly though if you had to project, how many do you think make the top 50, the top 20 or top 10? Just for fun if you had to guess. IDK I just don't see it. I think the 92 Dream Team is the greatest team ever assembled in any sport. Call me crazy.
It all comes down to longevity. People forget that Kobe broke down the last 4-5 years after re-inventing himself once already. Malone, Stockton, Jordan, Kareem, Duncan and others all had incredible longevity and were able to avoid injury. There are tons of very skillful players that rank lower on the all-time list than their talent would suggest like Walton, Rose, Roy, Wade, etc.
LeBron is an alien, and he is the only one I'd bet money on. He'll likely end up as the greatest regular season player at minimum. The amount of minutes he has played thus far is insane. If he holds up, it'd be incredible.
The Top 10 of All-time list is centered around the center area where basketball hadn't progressed to where it is now. No matter the era, the coach wouldn't play 3 or 4 of Kareem, Wilt, Russell, Shaq, Duncan all at the same time. From the '92 team, Magic and Jordan are certainly in the top 10, but '92 Bird was not Larry Legend. I think it's important to look at the players' skills at that point in time, if we're talking about a team vs. team game.
I'm not arguing against Hall of Fame status. I'm saying that if I had a time machine to go back and get the '92 team the moment it landed in Barcelona and took them to Madison Square Garden tomorrow and had them play a team of current players that had the exact same amount of time to prepare as the '92 team, today's players would win by a small margin.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
Fair enough. Honestly though if you had to project, how many do you think make the top 50, the top 20 or top 10? Just for fun if you had to guess. IDK I just don't see it. I think the 92 Dream Team is the greatest team ever assembled in any sport. Call me crazy.
Oh and Jordan won 3 championships in a row before he turned 30.... just saying.
He won 3 in a row by 30, briefly retired to try his hand at baseball, then came back to basketball and promptly won 3 more in a row. It was obscene. And as much as I liked those Rockets teams that won the 2 years that Jordan took off, you've got to wonder what would have happened had MJ not gone on haitus.
Fair enough. Honestly though if you had to project, how many do you think make the top 50, the top 20 or top 10? Just for fun if you had to guess. IDK I just don't see it. I think the 92 Dream Team is the greatest team ever assembled in any sport. Call me crazy.
Oh and Jordan won 3 championships in a row before he turned 30.... just saying.
He won 2 before age 30, and he turned 30 during in February of the '92-'93 season (his third). Stephen Curry has as many rings as Jordan did at the same age. Curry will turn 30 during this '17 - '18 season.
Kobe went to 3 straight finals twice as well. His Finals losses are to the aforementioned Pistons team and the '08 Celtics, another loaded team. LeBron has went to 7 straight Finals, and he only took a 2 week break, instead of 2 years (I'm playfully joking here).
Alrighty, in all seriousness, I won't hijack this thread anymore. I agree to disagree!
Edit: If Jordan didn't take the 2 years off, the team likely could have still won 6 titles, but certainly not 8. By all accounts, the last Bulls team was on fumes and won off will. The same attrition would've happened, just earlier in the span of time. There would've been a rebuilding period. My dream scenario is the Jazz win a title, forcing the angry (at Stockton/Malone) Michael Jordan Bulls to re-load and meet the 2000s Lakers.