Still find it hilarious that you think I am someone named Nick, which again proves you guys have a list of people who clearly dont like you or the things you guys do. This is an anonymous account I am using. I've been on NA for about 6 years. Registered and active. I chose to remain anonymous as last time your friends were outed and banned from here for being sketchy, they ACTUALLY made a spreadsheet of all the people that called them out, with everyone's name and FB profiles, made obcene photoshopped images of them, and had their friends harass them online. So ya, trying to protect myself from the innevitability of that.
Gex - do you have any knowledge of whether or not the ultimate winner is affiliated with Rick? The main accusations here are that (a) the wheel was rigged, and/or that (b) Richard essentially won the wheel. You explained the way the wheel works, but can you address the huge accusations made? You don't 'owe' this to me or anyone else, but I am very curious to hear your input on this.
the OP can't prove anything. he presents proxy accounts as obvious but there's no proof that the accused party did anything shady outside of running a wheel.
And there is no defending this hobby or the people who participate since there is no club or admission. I, for one, don't need a social justice crusader.
Lol, people give these guys money. That's on them for being morons.
Bertie boy... ouchie I threw $25 at the NWC wheel (with the fake opening video) way back. Was I ignorant? Yes. Did it make me a moron? I already was. Looking back I think it was just a knee jerk kind of action. I didn't think it through. I thought "for $25 worth a shot". Never asking myself if it was legit or not. Naive I believe is the term and I'm guilty.
Must be nice to never make a mistake
Everyone's a little naive one way or another. Heck, you can even use the knowledge you've gained for a mistake to help someone else not fall victim to the same thing.
It's the piss-ant scammers who try and take advantage of people are who I hate.
for sure, but when it's the tenth time the piss-ant scammer is pulling that shit, and it keeps working, I can't really blame them. People take advantage of people all the time. All you can do is learn your lesson and try not to make the same mistake again
Oh yeah, no argument here. It's that "fool me once, shame on you" thing.
Sucks that there will always be scammers no matter what you do. However, there has to be a way to slow these particular scammers down or at least teach them a lesson. I mean, the CSGO Lotto scamming thing didn't turn out too well after some people made a deal about it.
I just hate seeing people getting fucked over. Careful out there, peeps.
Yup I learned my lesson it was foolish of me to play but now I know. It’s a sleezy gig but “ain’t no rest for the wicked and money don’t grow on trees...”
Atom Heart Mother is the fifth studio album by the English progressive rock band Pink Floyd. It was released by Harvest on 2 October 1970 in the UK, and by Capitol on 10 October 1970 in the US. It was recorded at Abbey Road Studios in London, England, and was the band's first album to reach number 1 in the UK, while it reached number 55 in the US, eventually going gold there. A remastered CD was released in 1994 in the UK and the United States, and again in 2011. Ron Geesin, who had already influenced and collaborated with Roger Waters, contributed to the title track and received a then-rare outside songwriting credit.
Also believed to be part of the hidden soundtrack for 2001: A Space Odyssey, I believe. Been a long time since I researched Pink and their movie album smash ups. Firm believer in Alice on The Wall and The Dark Side of Oz, though.
I saw the Kubrick connection mentioned on Wiki, apparently he wanted to use it but didn't have a precise vision of where to use it so they just collectively decided to not use it at all. They used the LP as a prop in one of the scenes. I'm not sure if that qualifies it for hidden soundtrack
OP should have provided specific details if it was that large of an issue. This could have included names of the people in the 'grape vine', a store name and location, names of others that allegedly had their comments removed, etc.
With that said, a wheel for 65K dollars says enough for me to avoid.
So the "winner" of this game wheel also had to win another game wheel to get spots in the final wheel? Let me just get this straight, he won a $6,500 game wheel first, then won a $65,000 game wheel right after that? And I'm suppose to believe that this entire thing is legit? Are people really this fucking stupid to not call bullshit on that?
But wait guys, I have it on good authority that this is totally legit, an NA member that also helped run the wheel said so.
So the "winner" of this game wheel also had to win another game wheel to get spots in the final wheel? Let me just get this straight, he won a $6,500 game wheel first, then won a $65,000 game wheel right after that? And I'm suppose to believe that this entire thing is legit? Are people really this fucking stupid to not call bullshit on that?
But wait guys, I have it on good authority that this is totally legit, an NA member that also helped run the wheel said so.
Im pretty sure everyone realizes this is a bullshit scam except for people involved.
I assume the folks running it know its a scam, just lying about it.
So the "winner" of this game wheel also had to win another game wheel to get spots in the final wheel? Let me just get this straight, he won a $6,500 game wheel first, then won a $65,000 game wheel right after that? And I'm suppose to believe that this entire thing is legit? Are people really this fucking stupid to not call bullshit on that?
But wait guys, I have it on good authority that this is totally legit, an NA member that also helped run the wheel said so.
While I definitely think this was a scam (and that most of these things are a scam in some form), if you calculate the odds of this guy winning, while not LIKELY, they are still within the realm of plausibility.
So the "winner" of this game wheel also had to win another game wheel to get spots in the final wheel? Let me just get this straight, he won a $6,500 game wheel first, then won a $65,000 game wheel right after that? And I'm suppose to believe that this entire thing is legit? Are people really this fucking stupid to not call bullshit on that?
But wait guys, I have it on good authority that this is totally legit, an NA member that also helped run the wheel said so.
While I definitely think this was a scam (and that most of these things are a scam in some form), if you calculate the odds of this guy winning, while not LIKELY, they are still within the realm of plausibility.
This shit right here is why I don't gamble and don't have FB!!!! Sounds like a bunch of BS and unnecessary drama man....... I cant go for that, no can do.
So the "winner" of this game wheel also had to win another game wheel to get spots in the final wheel? Let me just get this straight, he won a $6,500 game wheel first, then won a $65,000 game wheel right after that? And I'm suppose to believe that this entire thing is legit? Are people really this fucking stupid to not call bullshit on that?
But wait guys, I have it on good authority that this is totally legit, an NA member that also helped run the wheel said so.
While I definitely think this was a scam (and that most of these things are a scam in some form), if you calculate the odds of this guy winning, while not LIKELY, they are still within the realm of plausibility.
Haha just remembered something! The OP actually tried to have his own Snes collection wheeled for around 70-75K.......so I'd take anything he said and literately flush it down the toilet in this thread.
Gex - do you have any knowledge of whether or not the ultimate winner is affiliated with Rick? The main accusations here are that (a) the wheel was rigged, and/or that (b) Richard essentially won the wheel. You explained the way the wheel works, but can you address the huge accusations made? You don't 'owe' this to me or anyone else, but I am very curious to hear your input on this.
Yeah for sure, i'll answer anyones questions as long as they're in good taste.
a) I livestream the raffle with a subscription paid randomizer service, Random.org. Everything is time stamped and a verification code is given, which will match the livestream saved on Youtube (used to be livestream.com, but they started charging $500/year). I've done hundreds and hundreds of streams, and the procedure is the same for every wheel. The $45 Super Metroid I livestreamed a few nights ago had the exact same routine as the $65,000 wheel did. I'm not a super tech guy, so someone could come at us saying there's some extremely complicated and intricate way to rig our wheels. I have problems even taking virus's off my comp, not that that's relevant. But anyone can watch the hundreds of livestreams on my Youtube and judge the congruency for themselves.
b) Nick Tamburri (OP) just said Steve was a fake account (the irnoy here is intense). We talked to Steve and he OK'd us to share his store, anyone can stop in and view the winnings for themselves. All his contact info is there too.
I never addressed these logistics because how totally totally blind they are, I mean Nick Tamburri (OP) isn't even alowed to have a profile on NA anymore lol. Our raffle happened almost 2 weeks ago. If there was any legitimate issue, i'm sure it would have been brough up by now. Not by a now confirmed fake account 2 weeks later. Why not use his real account to post if this information was so groundbreaking.
Yeah pretty disgusting, but raffles are illegal for this very reason...
Yep, you cannot require any consideration to play a game of chance. Sweepstakes (and contests) always must have a free entry method.
Feel free to contact the attorney general for the state he lives in and make them aware of this.
I'm guessing the rules in Canada probably differ. Though maybe not in their favor. (I know some places games of chance have to require a "skill" element)
Thanks Gex for the openness on this, very interesting digesting all the info on such a big scale ordeal. Funny how a lot of times these threads result in the OP getting banned...
Thanks Gex for the openness on this, very interesting digesting all the info on such a big scale ordeal. Funny how a lot of times these threads result in the OP getting banned...
Do I need to read this thread to find out what happened?
Atom Heart Mother is the fifth studio album by the English progressive rock band Pink Floyd.
Also believed to be part of the hidden soundtrack for 2001: A Space Odyssey, I believe.
I saw the Kubrick connection mentioned on Wiki, apparently he wanted to use it but didn't have a precise vision of where to use it so they just collectively decided to not use it at all. They used the LP as a prop in one of the scenes. I'm not sure if that qualifies it for hidden soundtrack
Looking at a Wiki page ain't going to get you where I'm at. There are those out there that believe Ummagumma, Atom Heart Mother, and Meddle sync with 2001, but it's a certain order. This one I'm somewhat inclined to believe might be accurate as well, considering how well Echoes goes with the Jupiter and Beyond sequence. I'm a firm believer in Alice and Oz, as not only do the music cues change with the scenes, but lyrics also match up with images on screen throughout, not to mention the clues hidden in the album liners.
Yeah pretty disgusting, but raffles are illegal for this very reason...
Yep, you cannot require any consideration to play a game of chance. Sweepstakes (and contests) always must have a free entry method.
Feel free to contact the attorney general for the state he lives in and make them aware of this.
I'm guessing the rules in Canada probably differ. Though maybe not in their favor. (I know some places games of chance have to require a "skill" element)
Yep, and in fact Canada is even more restrictive. The concept of a sweepstakes is illegal in Canada, but many companies (including the one I work for) easily get around this by drawing a "sweepstakes" winner at random and then asking them a "skill based question" which is usually simple math.
Still, consideration cannot be a requirement of entry.
Thanks Gex for the openness on this, very interesting digesting all the info on such a big scale ordeal. Funny how a lot of times these threads result in the OP getting banned...
OP was banned for dupe accounts though, not any posted content.
So the "winner" of this game wheel also had to win another game wheel to get spots in the final wheel? Let me just get this straight, he won a $6,500 game wheel first, then won a $65,000 game wheel right after that? And I'm suppose to believe that this entire thing is legit? Are people really this fucking stupid to not call bullshit on that?
But wait guys, I have it on good authority that this is totally legit, an NA member that also helped run the wheel said so.
While I definitely think this was a scam (and that most of these things are a scam in some form), if you calculate the odds of this guy winning, while not LIKELY, they are still within the realm of plausibility.
Thanks Gex for the openness on this, very interesting digesting all the info on such a big scale ordeal. Funny how a lot of times these threads result in the OP getting banned...
Do I need to read this thread to find out what happened?
Nah, Just three main points here:
1) OP claimed a game wheel that Gex streamed was fake but had no proof.
2) OP used a second NA account to make his accusation, so now he's banned.
Can't we just auto-lock any threads about scam wheels from now on?
Reading a thread like this is like watching a bunch of squealing hogs fighting and fucking in their own shit... I can't look away, but feel impossibly dirty after viewing.
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Still find it hilarious that you think I am someone named Nick, which again proves you guys have a list of people who clearly dont like you or the things you guys do. This is an anonymous account I am using. I've been on NA for about 6 years. Registered and active. I chose to remain anonymous as last time your friends were outed and banned from here for being sketchy, they ACTUALLY made a spreadsheet of all the people that called them out, with everyone's name and FB profiles, made obcene photoshopped images of them, and had their friends harass them online. So ya, trying to protect myself from the innevitability of that.
Okay chewy123 aka riffy77
Guess you're on a business trip to Ontario from Idaho right now?
And there is no defending this hobby or the people who participate since there is no club or admission. I, for one, don't need a social justice crusader.
this is popcorn faire, nothing more.
Lol, people give these guys money. That's on them for being morons.
Bertie boy... ouchie I threw $25 at the NWC wheel (with the fake opening video) way back. Was I ignorant? Yes. Did it make me a moron? I already was. Looking back I think it was just a knee jerk kind of action. I didn't think it through. I thought "for $25 worth a shot". Never asking myself if it was legit or not. Naive I believe is the term and I'm guilty.
Must be nice to never make a mistake
Everyone's a little naive one way or another. Heck, you can even use the knowledge you've gained for a mistake to help someone else not fall victim to the same thing.
It's the piss-ant scammers who try and take advantage of people are who I hate.
for sure, but when it's the tenth time the piss-ant scammer is pulling that shit, and it keeps working, I can't really blame them. People take advantage of people all the time. All you can do is learn your lesson and try not to make the same mistake again
Oh yeah, no argument here. It's that "fool me once, shame on you" thing.
Sucks that there will always be scammers no matter what you do. However, there has to be a way to slow these particular scammers down or at least teach them a lesson. I mean, the CSGO Lotto scamming thing didn't turn out too well after some people made a deal about it.
I just hate seeing people getting fucked over. Careful out there, peeps.
Yup I learned my lesson it was foolish of me to play but now I know. It’s a sleezy gig but “ain’t no rest for the wicked and money don’t grow on trees...”
Atom Heart Mother is the fifth studio album by the English progressive rock band Pink Floyd. It was released by Harvest on 2 October 1970 in the UK, and by Capitol on 10 October 1970 in the US. It was recorded at Abbey Road Studios in London, England, and was the band's first album to reach number 1 in the UK, while it reached number 55 in the US, eventually going gold there. A remastered CD was released in 1994 in the UK and the United States, and again in 2011. Ron Geesin, who had already influenced and collaborated with Roger Waters, contributed to the title track and received a then-rare outside songwriting credit.
Also believed to be part of the hidden soundtrack for 2001: A Space Odyssey, I believe. Been a long time since I researched Pink and their movie album smash ups. Firm believer in Alice on The Wall and The Dark Side of Oz, though.
I saw the Kubrick connection mentioned on Wiki, apparently he wanted to use it but didn't have a precise vision of where to use it so they just collectively decided to not use it at all. They used the LP as a prop in one of the scenes. I'm not sure if that qualifies it for hidden soundtrack
With that said, a wheel for 65K dollars says enough for me to avoid.
But wait guys, I have it on good authority that this is totally legit, an NA member that also helped run the wheel said so.
So the "winner" of this game wheel also had to win another game wheel to get spots in the final wheel? Let me just get this straight, he won a $6,500 game wheel first, then won a $65,000 game wheel right after that? And I'm suppose to believe that this entire thing is legit? Are people really this fucking stupid to not call bullshit on that?
But wait guys, I have it on good authority that this is totally legit, an NA member that also helped run the wheel said so.
Im pretty sure everyone realizes this is a bullshit scam except for people involved.
I assume the folks running it know its a scam, just lying about it.
So the "winner" of this game wheel also had to win another game wheel to get spots in the final wheel? Let me just get this straight, he won a $6,500 game wheel first, then won a $65,000 game wheel right after that? And I'm suppose to believe that this entire thing is legit? Are people really this fucking stupid to not call bullshit on that?
But wait guys, I have it on good authority that this is totally legit, an NA member that also helped run the wheel said so.
While I definitely think this was a scam (and that most of these things are a scam in some form), if you calculate the odds of this guy winning, while not LIKELY, they are still within the realm of plausibility.
So the "winner" of this game wheel also had to win another game wheel to get spots in the final wheel? Let me just get this straight, he won a $6,500 game wheel first, then won a $65,000 game wheel right after that? And I'm suppose to believe that this entire thing is legit? Are people really this fucking stupid to not call bullshit on that?
But wait guys, I have it on good authority that this is totally legit, an NA member that also helped run the wheel said so.
While I definitely think this was a scam (and that most of these things are a scam in some form), if you calculate the odds of this guy winning, while not LIKELY, they are still within the realm of plausibility.
So the "winner" of this game wheel also had to win another game wheel to get spots in the final wheel? Let me just get this straight, he won a $6,500 game wheel first, then won a $65,000 game wheel right after that? And I'm suppose to believe that this entire thing is legit? Are people really this fucking stupid to not call bullshit on that?
But wait guys, I have it on good authority that this is totally legit, an NA member that also helped run the wheel said so.
While I definitely think this was a scam (and that most of these things are a scam in some form), if you calculate the odds of this guy winning, while not LIKELY, they are still within the realm of plausibility.
Gex - do you have any knowledge of whether or not the ultimate winner is affiliated with Rick? The main accusations here are that (a) the wheel was rigged, and/or that (b) Richard essentially won the wheel. You explained the way the wheel works, but can you address the huge accusations made? You don't 'owe' this to me or anyone else, but I am very curious to hear your input on this.
Yeah for sure, i'll answer anyones questions as long as they're in good taste.
a) I livestream the raffle with a subscription paid randomizer service, Random.org. Everything is time stamped and a verification code is given, which will match the livestream saved on Youtube (used to be livestream.com, but they started charging $500/year). I've done hundreds and hundreds of streams, and the procedure is the same for every wheel. The $45 Super Metroid I livestreamed a few nights ago had the exact same routine as the $65,000 wheel did. I'm not a super tech guy, so someone could come at us saying there's some extremely complicated and intricate way to rig our wheels. I have problems even taking virus's off my comp, not that that's relevant. But anyone can watch the hundreds of livestreams on my Youtube and judge the congruency for themselves.
b) Nick Tamburri (OP) just said Steve was a fake account (the irnoy here is intense). We talked to Steve and he OK'd us to share his store, anyone can stop in and view the winnings for themselves. All his contact info is there too.
http://www.smalltownvideogames.net/
I never addressed these logistics because how totally totally blind they are, I mean Nick Tamburri (OP) isn't even alowed to have a profile on NA anymore lol. Our raffle happened almost 2 weeks ago. If there was any legitimate issue, i'm sure it would have been brough up by now. Not by a now confirmed fake account 2 weeks later. Why not use his real account to post if this information was so groundbreaking.
Yeah pretty disgusting, but raffles are illegal for this very reason...
Yep, you cannot require any consideration to play a game of chance. Sweepstakes (and contests) always must have a free entry method.
Feel free to contact the attorney general for the state he lives in and make them aware of this.
Yeah pretty disgusting, but raffles are illegal for this very reason...
Yep, you cannot require any consideration to play a game of chance. Sweepstakes (and contests) always must have a free entry method.
Feel free to contact the attorney general for the state he lives in and make them aware of this.
I'm guessing the rules in Canada probably differ. Though maybe not in their favor. (I know some places games of chance have to require a "skill" element)
Thanks Gex for the openness on this, very interesting digesting all the info on such a big scale ordeal. Funny how a lot of times these threads result in the OP getting banned...
Do I need to read this thread to find out what happened?
Atom Heart Mother is the fifth studio album by the English progressive rock band Pink Floyd.
Also believed to be part of the hidden soundtrack for 2001: A Space Odyssey, I believe.
I saw the Kubrick connection mentioned on Wiki, apparently he wanted to use it but didn't have a precise vision of where to use it so they just collectively decided to not use it at all. They used the LP as a prop in one of the scenes. I'm not sure if that qualifies it for hidden soundtrack
Looking at a Wiki page ain't going to get you where I'm at. There are those out there that believe Ummagumma, Atom Heart Mother, and Meddle sync with 2001, but it's a certain order. This one I'm somewhat inclined to believe might be accurate as well, considering how well Echoes goes with the Jupiter and Beyond sequence. I'm a firm believer in Alice and Oz, as not only do the music cues change with the scenes, but lyrics also match up with images on screen throughout, not to mention the clues hidden in the album liners.
Don't get me started on the Publius Enigma.
Yeah pretty disgusting, but raffles are illegal for this very reason...
Yep, you cannot require any consideration to play a game of chance. Sweepstakes (and contests) always must have a free entry method.
Feel free to contact the attorney general for the state he lives in and make them aware of this.
I'm guessing the rules in Canada probably differ. Though maybe not in their favor. (I know some places games of chance have to require a "skill" element)
Yep, and in fact Canada is even more restrictive. The concept of a sweepstakes is illegal in Canada, but many companies (including the one I work for) easily get around this by drawing a "sweepstakes" winner at random and then asking them a "skill based question" which is usually simple math.
Still, consideration cannot be a requirement of entry.
And here I was thinking that this thread was going to be about the Coleco Chameleon. Consider me disappointed.
Sometimes I wish this forum had thumbs ups or likes.
Yep, you cannot require any consideration to play a game of chance. Sweepstakes (and contests) always must have a free entry method.
Feel free to contact the attorney general for the state he lives in and make them aware of this.
Pat's not gonna too happy about this
The OP probably could of made a better case or been heard if he wasn't an infamous scammer himself.
Thanks again for your help Brock, there's already repercussions happening on the pages. I'll keep you posted if u want
But when will the video game bubble burst!!!! ...oh, wrong discussion #hypethread?
This whole thread was a trick to get everyone casually saying a full NES set is worth $65,000. #hype
Are we witnessing some kind of polite Canadian gang battle between territories?
This thread:
Thanks Gex for the openness on this, very interesting digesting all the info on such a big scale ordeal. Funny how a lot of times these threads result in the OP getting banned...
OP was banned for dupe accounts though, not any posted content.
So the "winner" of this game wheel also had to win another game wheel to get spots in the final wheel? Let me just get this straight, he won a $6,500 game wheel first, then won a $65,000 game wheel right after that? And I'm suppose to believe that this entire thing is legit? Are people really this fucking stupid to not call bullshit on that?
But wait guys, I have it on good authority that this is totally legit, an NA member that also helped run the wheel said so.
While I definitely think this was a scam (and that most of these things are a scam in some form), if you calculate the odds of this guy winning, while not LIKELY, they are still within the realm of plausibility.
Thanks Gex for the openness on this, very interesting digesting all the info on such a big scale ordeal. Funny how a lot of times these threads result in the OP getting banned...
Do I need to read this thread to find out what happened?
Nah, Just three main points here:
1) OP claimed a game wheel that Gex streamed was fake but had no proof.
2) OP used a second NA account to make his accusation, so now he's banned.
3) Game wheels are gambling.
Reading a thread like this is like watching a bunch of squealing hogs fighting and fucking in their own shit... I can't look away, but feel impossibly dirty after viewing.