Electronic Arts "disappointed in our underperformance"

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/02/ea-turns-in-bummer-fiscal-report-were-disappointed-in-our-underperformance/



"Battlefield V's sales fell way below expectations. This, combined with a severe drop in mobile-gaming revenue, led EA's executives to admit that they were "disappointed in our underperfomance" in fiscal Q3 2019"



I kinda hope they crash and burn. They have long bit the epitome of the game company that doesn't care a bit about anything but money. 

In case you were forgetting, here is a list (from 2017) of studios EA has killed

https://heavy.com/games/2017/10/studios-ea-has-killed-visceral-games/



This includes Westwood, Origin, and 12 other! I wonder if BioWare is next???



Oh, and you have to wonder about a company where the CEO continues to sell all his shares...

yup

 

Comments

  • > We made the decision to prioritise other features, including a single player experience at launch, over a Battle Royale mode," he said when explaining the game's underperformance.



    Is the house of derivative AAA sequels and copycats ever going to collapse, or is this what gaming is just doomed to now. A game that sold a MERE 7 million copies was a failure because it didn't try to be Fortnite. Jesus.
  • Originally posted by: DefaultGen



    > We made the decision to prioritise other features, including a single player experience at launch, over a Battle Royale mode," he said when explaining the game's underperformance.



    Is the house of derivative AAA sequels and copycats ever going to collapse, or is this what gaming is just doomed to now. A game that sold a MERE 7 million copies was a failure because it didn't try to be Fortnite. Jesus.



    Failure doesn’t mean they didn’t make a profit, it just means they didn’t meet their projected sales goal and therefor will likely take a hit since they enticed investors with a projected number of sales.



    Profit doesn’t guarantee a sequel either. They can easily give us a Sim City every year like they do with FIFA or Madden, but they’d rather put resources into cash cow games. Why make 1 money when they can make 10 money.
  • Fuck EA.



    They traded everything for short term cash from lootbox garbage. They deserve everything that is coming to them.



    The AAA gaming market will crash, under the weight of their own anti-consumer microtransaction bullshit.
  • Originally posted by: MrWunderful



    Fuck EA.



    They traded everything for short term cash from lootbox garbage. They deserve everything that is coming to them.



    The AAA gaming market will crash, under the weight of their own anti-consumer microtransaction bullshit.



    Has EA ever made good games though? 



    Titanfall is by Respawn Entertainment

    Mass Effect, and Dragon Age is by Bioware

    Dead Space is by Visceral Games

    Sims, Sim City, Spore are by Maxis

    Medal of Honor, and Battlefield are by DICE

    Crisis is by Crytek

    Wing Commander, and Ultima are Origin



    Without their bankroll, they’ve got sports titles...and Need for Speed I think
  • Originally posted by: PowerPlayers

     
    Originally posted by: MrWunderful



    Fuck EA.



    They traded everything for short term cash from lootbox garbage. They deserve everything that is coming to them.



    The AAA gaming market will crash, under the weight of their own anti-consumer microtransaction bullshit.



    Has EA ever made good games though? 

     



    Blades of Vengance

    A Bards Tale

    all the 007 Gamecube Games

    Shaq Fu

    Command and Conquer

    Wing Commander 

    Might and Magic

    Road Rash



    just off the top of my head. EA just like Activision use to make a lot of great games.

     
  • Originally posted by: PowerPlayers

     
    Originally posted by: MrWunderful



    Fuck EA.



    They traded everything for short term cash from lootbox garbage. They deserve everything that is coming to them.



    The AAA gaming market will crash, under the weight of their own anti-consumer microtransaction bullshit.



    Has EA ever made good games though? 



    Titanfall is by Respawn Entertainment

    Mass Effect, and Dragon Age is by Bioware

    Dead Space is by Visceral Games

    Sims, Sim City, Spore are by Maxis

    Medal of Honor, and Battlefield are by DICE

    Crisis is by Crytek

    Wing Commander, and Ultima are Origin



    Without their bankroll, they’ve got sports titles...and Need for Speed I think





    Companies like EA dont really make games I guess, Devs do.  As publisher They just kind of bankroll the whole operation and use their Marketing Budget to try and sell as many units/digital sales to make profits for share holders.  



    In the process of trying to make as much money for share holders as possible, they force shady practices on Devs, like charging 1.00 for a red dot sight, 12.00 for a re-skinned emote, or selling "pay to win" items.  



    EA also has Star Wars (talk about destroying a game franchise lol) and  the upcoming Anthem.  Anthem would have been my Jam, but I am thinking about not purchasing it based on the sheer amount of bullshit from EA as a company.  I dont't know though, still might if they make an effort to drop any shady microtransactions or appeal to the players.



    FIFA ultimate team is their cash cow, and the loot boxes have been outlawed in Belguim with othe countries (supposedly) looking to follow.

     
  • Originally posted by: themisfit138

     
    Originally posted by: PowerPlayers

     
    Originally posted by: MrWunderful



    Fuck EA.



    They traded everything for short term cash from lootbox garbage. They deserve everything that is coming to them.



    The AAA gaming market will crash, under the weight of their own anti-consumer microtransaction bullshit.



    Has EA ever made good games though? 

     



    Blades of Vengance

    A Bards Tale

    all the 007 Gamecube Games

    Shaq Fu

    Command and Conquer

    Wing Commander 

    Might and Magic

    Road Rash



    just off the top of my head. EA just like Activision use to make a lot of great games.

     





    Pretty sure he was referring to Current Gen.



    But for the record, Activision is another garbage company that has destroyed franchises. 
  • Originally posted by: MrWunderful



    Pretty sure he was referring to Current Gen.



    But for the record, Activision is another garbage company that has destroyed franchises. 

    I agree with that sentiment. Modern EA and Activision are basically in the same situation.  



     
  • Did he sell before the announcement? isn't that illegal?
  • EA did this to themselves. This started with battlefront where they put half the content in a $60 game and the other half to complete the game in the form of a $50 dlc. Other games also had nasty microtransactions that were ridiculous.

    Then with battlefield 5 EA may have executed the worst marketing job of a big time title game in recent memory. The trailer pissed everyone off. Now the game was about politics and not the usual battlefield experience. EA probably lost so much money off that. I hope their Social justice push was worth millions of dollars in their snowflake hearts.

    Now anthem is coming out from a quality developer in bioware and Apex Legends just came out.

    Apex legends is a pretty quality fresh BR game and anthem will probably be a decent game. So I can't see EA continuing down the path of disaster for long. Bioware is too good a company to pull. If you pull the father of mass effect then nobody is safe.
  • I buy most of my games used because new games rarely come completed at launch anymore. I don't feel bad after some of the games EA has driven right into the ground due to lack of content and pay to win stance with DLC. It's kinda sad what a lot of 'AAA' games have become; rushed garbage that you have to pay to fix or complete months down the road. It's not just EA.
  • Originally posted by: buttheadrulesagain

    Did he sell before the announcement? isn't that illegal?





    Company officers file SEC disclosures of their intent to sell prior to selling, since they otherwise are trading on privileged information.

    So the market knows about their actions well before they take place and it hypothetically cancels out the "insider" effect.

    What he did is not illegal and is pretty standard.


    Illegal would be him tipping off someone else who then can trade on the insider knowledge without making an sec filing that would warn the rest of the market.
  • The underpaid workhorse employees are the only ones I feel at all shitty for, I hope for a world without EA in 5-10 years.
  • Ah well... :/

    yup

    This is EA, so of course you can expect:

    yup
  • Originally posted by: avatar!



    Ah well... :/ yup This is EA, so of course you can expect: yup



    Almost all F2P games have this model.  This isnt just EA  

     
  • Originally posted by: Wheelcakes

     
    Originally posted by: avatar!



    Ah well... :/ yup This is EA, so of course you can expect: yup



    Almost all F2P games have this model.  This isnt just EA  

     

    Fair point. 



     
  • Originally posted by: PowerPlayers

     
    Originally posted by: MrWunderful



    Fuck EA.



    They traded everything for short term cash from lootbox garbage. They deserve everything that is coming to them.



    The AAA gaming market will crash, under the weight of their own anti-consumer microtransaction bullshit.



    Has EA ever made good games though? 



    Titanfall is by Respawn Entertainment

    Mass Effect, and Dragon Age is by Bioware

    Dead Space is by Visceral Games

    Sims, Sim City, Spore are by Maxis

    Medal of Honor, and Battlefield are by DICE

    Crisis is by Crytek

    Wing Commander, and Ultima are Origin



    Without their bankroll, they’ve got sports titles...and Need for Speed I think



    EA Sports it's in the game

     
  • I must be the only one who wishes most companies, even EA, are successful. Have they made bad business decisions in the past? Sure. Many companies have while learning a new and ever evolving space. They attempted to make a profit like any other company does and would. This isn't some new revelation. But people act like EA kidnapped their first born while dumping toxic waste in their local watering hole.
  • EA will always bounce back, despite being a miserable company. Like Disney. Or Nintendo. Or the WWE...
  • We can hate EA all we want for switching to the "loot box" economic but the truth is, companies do this because it works. The problem for us is that we're not the masses so we EA as a company that kills the enjoyment for main-line franchises or IP. But, apparently, there are people out there who are gladly willing to dump various sizes of barrels of money each month, week and some even daily, on these "crates". It's disgusting and preditorial, feeding off of what's essentially a gambling addiction.



    I use to play some gatchas but Nintendo's Fire Emblem game was my last. In fact, it was the one that specifically showed me how bad the addictions can/must be for some people. At that time, I'd gladly drop about $50/mo on a game. I had expendable money and wasn't collecting and those games were good distractions. Even at $50/mo ($600 annualized) I think I had a tough time breaking the top 20,000 players, which I think was a global tier. Looking at some of the best players teams within the first month or two, I estimated that top-tier players were dropping around $8,000 just to get "perfect" teams. In those early days, there were only so many "epic" characters so basically having the few best with maxed stats meant you'd be at the top of the leaderboard.



    I understand that there are a few pro players for these types of games and as weird as it is, making an upfront $8-10k "investment in a game, and spending maybe upwards of $4k a months pays for itself, but seriously, this isn't gaming. This is paying to have the biggest... team and to be able to brag about it on Twitch. Ironically, the game I probably have the most respect for (that I've seen so far) is Fortnite. I didn't particularly like the gameplay and I get it, kids can be annoying with their Fortnite dancing and memes and paying other players to teach them how to game better but... at the end of the day what you pay the parent company is money for cooler looking characters, skins and dances. In other words, it doesn't help your gameplay. From my understanding, even with this model Fortnite is doing well, so it's not feeding the addictive tendencies of young gamers. I respect that.



    I don't know if EA has any games like this but they, like many, are exploiting a facet that's long been a part of the gaming community and that is being addicted to this stuff. I know when I was young I obsessed about wanting to beat one more boss, or leveling up my RPG characters just one more level. Monetizing the experience shifts from it simply being a part of a players personality, to a corporate beast exploiting that behavior.
  • ^ Yup.



    We are the vocal minority.



    Frankly I don't mind loot boxes AT ALL. It's the contents that matters. Overwatch does it right - everything is purely cosmetic.
  • Cosmetic loot boxes arent the problem.



    FTP games with monetization arent the problem.



    The problem is the constant nickel and dimeing.



    Take red dead online for example. It was so tilted towards aggresive monetization it was almost unplayable, and it basically ruined what could have been a great experience.
  • Originally posted by: SwiftFrost



    I must be the only one who wishes most companies, even EA, are successful. Have they made bad business decisions in the past? Sure. Many companies have while learning a new and ever evolving space. They attempted to make a profit like any other company does and would. This isn't some new revelation. But people act like EA kidnapped their first born while dumping toxic waste in their local watering hole.





    Being cutthroat anti consumer isnt the same as “trying to make a profit”



    If you want to know why EA is trash, just google it. It has been discussed at length. 



    If you enjoy AAA games, then you wouldnt want the market to crash. But that is what is going to happen because of EA, Activision, Take two and Bethesda
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