3DO on the rise ...
i been noticing 3DO System and games have been on the rise in the past 12 months. Last year my friend found 12 games. All have either doubled in price or went up by $10-20.
Systems have been rising as well. It's not shocking but is at the same time.
Systems have been rising as well. It's not shocking but is at the same time.
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Meanwhile, all the johnny-come-latelys have moved on to some other hobby. It seems like Magic the Gathering and Pokemon cards have been on the rise.
I'm done with the Long Box game collection, aside from Dinopark. I just need 2 Longboxes for the complete Longbox set.
Everything on the fringe is getting a boost. Hardcore collectors have finished their NES, SNES, Genesis, N64 and etc sets, and need to move on to the obscure shit. 3DO, Jaguar, Sega CD, and N-gage are seeing price raises.
Meanwhile, all the johnny-come-latelys have moved on to some other hobby. It seems like Magic the Gathering and Pokemon cards have been on the rise.
I'm done with the Long Box game collection, aside from Dinopark. I just need 2 Longboxes for the complete Longbox set.
Everything on the fringe (especially boxed/complete) has been on the rise the last 2-3 years.
Loose NES/SNES is dying out. The NES and SNES classics have dropped the boulder on the head of that buying scene.
Everything on the fringe is getting a boost. Hardcore collectors have finished their NES, SNES, Genesis, N64 and etc sets, and need to move on to the obscure shit. 3DO, Jaguar, Sega CD, and N-gage are seeing price raises.
Meanwhile, all the johnny-come-latelys have moved on to some other hobby. It seems like Magic the Gathering and Pokemon cards have been on the rise.
I'm done with the Long Box game collection, aside from Dinopark. I just need 2 Longboxes for the complete Longbox set.
Everything on the fringe (especially boxed/complete) has been on the rise the last 2-3 years.
Loose NES/SNES is dying out. The NES and SNES classics have dropped the boulder on the head of that buying scene.
It's interesting seeing the cooling of NES/SNES prices. I think there are more factors than just the NES/SNES classic at play. I think the proliferation of fakes on eBay has helped cool prices considerably. eBay just gave the fuck up, and will let bootlegs from China sell all day long. Additionally, the NES has passed it's era of maximum nostalgia. I know that PS2 is already starting to rise as well.
I wonder if the intimidatingly large sets of PS1, PS2, DS, and etc will prevent the "Gotta catch 'em all" mentality that we saw with so many NES collectors.
Also, since most of the collectors here are American, I wonder what the general cooling says about our economy.
I wonder if the intimidatingly large sets of PS1, PS2, DS, and etc will prevent the "Gotta catch 'em all" mentality that we saw with so many NES collectors.
I've been saying that for a while now. I don't believe in the future you will see nearly as many "full set" collectors. I think you will see a lot more "subset" collectors, going for specific subsets such as a specific genre or publisher.
I only know a small hand full of people going for full PS1 sets (and a few who have completed it), but I know a ton of people going for subsets such as all PS1 RPGs.
Everything on the fringe is getting a boost. Hardcore collectors have finished their NES, SNES, Genesis, N64 and etc sets, and need to move on to the obscure shit. 3DO, Jaguar, Sega CD, and N-gage are seeing price raises.
Meanwhile, all the johnny-come-latelys have moved on to some other hobby. It seems like Magic the Gathering and Pokemon cards have been on the rise.
I'm done with the Long Box game collection, aside from Dinopark. I just need 2 Longboxes for the complete Longbox set.
Everything on the fringe (especially boxed/complete) has been on the rise the last 2-3 years.
Loose NES/SNES is dying out. The NES and SNES classics have dropped the boulder on the head of that buying scene.
It's interesting seeing the cooling of NES/SNES prices. I think there are more factors than just the NES/SNES classic at play. I think the proliferation of fakes on eBay has helped cool prices considerably. eBay just gave the fuck up, and will let bootlegs from China sell all day long. Additionally, the NES has passed it's era of maximum nostalgia. I know that PS2 is already starting to rise as well.
I wonder if the intimidatingly large sets of PS1, PS2, DS, and etc will prevent the "Gotta catch 'em all" mentality that we saw with so many NES collectors.
Also, since most of the collectors here are American, I wonder what the general cooling says about our economy.
I believe so as well. Loose NES had started to cool for me at shows well before the NES Classic was released; maybe the Everdrives had something to do with it too?
Not sure if people had given up on it, or if the peeps collecting it already had everything they wanted. I know as a seller I've given up on getting any new loose NES or SNES stock unless it's specific things (NBA Jam when Kitzrow is signing, MK II when the Mortal Kombat guys are around, etc)
Loose N64 still moves.
Everything on the fringe is getting a boost. Hardcore collectors have finished their NES, SNES, Genesis, N64 and etc sets, and need to move on to the obscure shit. 3DO, Jaguar, Sega CD, and N-gage are seeing price raises.
Meanwhile, all the johnny-come-latelys have moved on to some other hobby. It seems like Magic the Gathering and Pokemon cards have been on the rise.
MTG is just a nightmare with the centralized supply among dealers and entrepreneurs who come along and buy out every available copy of a card. Give me price spikes on video games people only care about because there's nothing left to collect any day. At least 3DO isn't increasing in price because of rampant speculation. There's like zero to one copy of half the library available for purchase online at any given time, it's just not out there.
If the MTG finance mentality comes to video games, not just at the super high end/sealed stuff, that will be fun
MTG is just a nightmare with the centralized supply among dealers and entrepreneurs who come along and buy out every available copy of a card. Give me price spikes on video games people only care about because there's nothing left to collect any day. At least 3DO isn't increasing in price because of rampant speculation. There's like zero to one copy of half the library available for purchase online at any given time, it's just not out there.
If the MTG finance mentality comes to video games, not just at the super high end/sealed stuff, that will be fun
I used to hear about this kind of thing from the Turbografx-16 community. They'd claim there were huge numbers of people controlling the market. The reality is, TG16 stuff was just hot, and people were willing to pay prices higher than what the community arbitrarily thought was "correct." It was infuriating, because of this absurdist belief in some evil cabal of eBay sellers trying to create price demand, when it was really just real-world demand.
So, I'm skeptical when I hear the same thing about any collectable. MTG is (for some insane reason beyond my comprehension) incredibly popular right now. Is it possible that it's not just real-world demand, rather than scalpers?
Good. Maybe in a couple more years it'll be worth selling my 85+ Slopestyle...
LOL, that garbage is rare AF. There's so many rare educational VCDs on the 3DO, parading around as if they are legitimate games.
MTG is just a nightmare with the centralized supply among dealers and entrepreneurs who come along and buy out every available copy of a card. Give me price spikes on video games people only care about because there's nothing left to collect any day. At least 3DO isn't increasing in price because of rampant speculation. There's like zero to one copy of half the library available for purchase online at any given time, it's just not out there.
If the MTG finance mentality comes to video games, not just at the super high end/sealed stuff, that will be fun
I used to hear about this kind of thing from the Turbografx-16 community. They'd claim there were huge numbers of people controlling the market. The reality is, TG16 stuff was just hot, and people were willing to pay prices higher than what the community arbitrarily thought was "correct." It was infuriating, because of this absurdist belief in some evil cabal of eBay sellers trying to create price demand, when it was really just real-world demand.
So, I'm skeptical when I hear the same thing about any collectable. MTG is (for some insane reason beyond my comprehension) incredibly popular right now. Is it possible that it's not just real-world demand, rather than scalpers?
If you look at any card on the reserve list (a list of cards Wizards promises to never reprint) you'll see BIG spikes when some person or group buys every available copy. It doesn't matter how worthless the card is.
In the "real world" this is a literal 10 cent card. It is unplayable garbage, not a card that would ever become popular for any reason. But you see two big spikes where someone bought literally every available copy. Often the price comes back down after this, but usually not all the way to the original price. Speculation on stuff like this in MTG is everywhere out in the open and everyone is the next Wolf of Wall Street.
MTG is just a nightmare with the centralized supply among dealers and entrepreneurs who come along and buy out every available copy of a card. Give me price spikes on video games people only care about because there's nothing left to collect any day. At least 3DO isn't increasing in price because of rampant speculation. There's like zero to one copy of half the library available for purchase online at any given time, it's just not out there.
If the MTG finance mentality comes to video games, not just at the super high end/sealed stuff, that will be fun
I used to hear about this kind of thing from the Turbografx-16 community. They'd claim there were huge numbers of people controlling the market. The reality is, TG16 stuff was just hot, and people were willing to pay prices higher than what the community arbitrarily thought was "correct." It was infuriating, because of this absurdist belief in some evil cabal of eBay sellers trying to create price demand, when it was really just real-world demand.
So, I'm skeptical when I hear the same thing about any collectable. MTG is (for some insane reason beyond my comprehension) incredibly popular right now. Is it possible that it's not just real-world demand, rather than scalpers?
It's mostly real world demand for MTG. That is why revised Underground Sea in bad condition is still very expensive and sells. People want the card to play in Vintage. Of course there are also collectors who will pay much more for high grades on rare cards, but that is also legitimate demand. There have been a few instances of someone driving up prices by buying all copies of a card (for example, I remember someone buying every Moat on Ebay and driving the price up) but that is pretty rare.
Also MTG is incredibly popular because it's one of the best games ever made
MTG is just a nightmare with the centralized supply among dealers and entrepreneurs who come along and buy out every available copy of a card. Give me price spikes on video games people only care about because there's nothing left to collect any day. At least 3DO isn't increasing in price because of rampant speculation. There's like zero to one copy of half the library available for purchase online at any given time, it's just not out there.
If the MTG finance mentality comes to video games, not just at the super high end/sealed stuff, that will be fun
I used to hear about this kind of thing from the Turbografx-16 community. They'd claim there were huge numbers of people controlling the market. The reality is, TG16 stuff was just hot, and people were willing to pay prices higher than what the community arbitrarily thought was "correct." It was infuriating, because of this absurdist belief in some evil cabal of eBay sellers trying to create price demand, when it was really just real-world demand.
So, I'm skeptical when I hear the same thing about any collectable. MTG is (for some insane reason beyond my comprehension) incredibly popular right now. Is it possible that it's not just real-world demand, rather than scalpers?
If you look at any card on the reserve list (a list of cards Wizards promises to never reprint) you'll see BIG spikes when some person or group buys every available copy. It doesn't matter how worthless the card is.
In the "real world" this is a literal 10 cent card. It is unplayable garbage, not a card that would ever become popular for any reason. But you see two big spikes where someone bought literally every available copy. Often the price comes back down after this, but usually not all the way to the original price. Speculation on stuff like this in MTG is everywhere out in the open and everyone is the next Wolf of Wall Street.
My problem with this is, I don't see how it could possibly be profitable. Between the cost to ship the card (a tracked First class package is $3) and each eBay sale being at least $1 in fees after everything is said and done, this looks like a losing proposition.
So, you buy 1000 copies of Weakstone at $1 each, and pay $3 to ship it. It goes up to $5 or $10... but how many people are actually after this totally useless card?
MTG is just a nightmare with the centralized supply among dealers and entrepreneurs who come along and buy out every available copy of a card. Give me price spikes on video games people only care about because there's nothing left to collect any day. At least 3DO isn't increasing in price because of rampant speculation. There's like zero to one copy of half the library available for purchase online at any given time, it's just not out there.
If the MTG finance mentality comes to video games, not just at the super high end/sealed stuff, that will be fun
I used to hear about this kind of thing from the Turbografx-16 community. They'd claim there were huge numbers of people controlling the market. The reality is, TG16 stuff was just hot, and people were willing to pay prices higher than what the community arbitrarily thought was "correct." It was infuriating, because of this absurdist belief in some evil cabal of eBay sellers trying to create price demand, when it was really just real-world demand.
So, I'm skeptical when I hear the same thing about any collectable. MTG is (for some insane reason beyond my comprehension) incredibly popular right now. Is it possible that it's not just real-world demand, rather than scalpers?
If you look at any card on the reserve list (a list of cards Wizards promises to never reprint) you'll see BIG spikes when some person or group buys every available copy. It doesn't matter how worthless the card is.
In the "real world" this is a literal 10 cent card. It is unplayable garbage, not a card that would ever become popular for any reason. But you see two big spikes where someone bought literally every available copy. Often the price comes back down after this, but usually not all the way to the original price. Speculation on stuff like this in MTG is everywhere out in the open and everyone is the next Wolf of Wall Street.
My problem with this is, I don't see how it could possibly be profitable. Between the cost to ship the card (a tracked First class package is $3) and each eBay sale being at least $1 in fees after everything is said and done, this looks like a losing proposition.
So, you buy 1000 copies of Weakstone at $1 each, and pay $3 to ship it. It goes up to $5 or $10... but how many people are actually after this totally useless card?
One guy is buying up all the Dragon Warrior carts and so far it's had no effect that I can see.
Everything on the fringe is getting a boost. Hardcore collectors have finished their NES, SNES, Genesis, N64 and etc sets, and need to move on to the obscure shit. 3DO, Jaguar, Sega CD, and N-gage are seeing price raises.
Meanwhile, all the johnny-come-latelys have moved on to some other hobby. It seems like Magic the Gathering and Pokemon cards have been on the rise.
I'm done with the Long Box game collection, aside from Dinopark. I just need 2 Longboxes for the complete Longbox set.
Everything on the fringe (especially boxed/complete) has been on the rise the last 2-3 years.
Loose NES/SNES is dying out. The NES and SNES classics have dropped the boulder on the head of that buying scene.
Yeah and I'm thankful. I'm finally making head way with my NES set and starting to chip away at SNES.
Even if full set collectors were to fade a bit, I think the rare games on any Nintendo system will always have a market. Once people realize they are rare, they become desirable.
I should have specified "fairly common" in my statement. Your stuff like Duck Tales 2 and up will still sell, but just about anything 20 bucks and less (my bread and butter for years) are deader than disco.
Even if full set collectors were to fade a bit, I think the rare games on any Nintendo system will always have a market. Once people realize they are rare, they become desirable.
I should have specified "fairly common" in my statement. Your stuff like Duck Tales 2 and up will still sell, but just about anything 20 bucks and less (my bread and butter for years) are deader than disco.
You know what's weird... or maybe not weird? There seems to be a bit of an uptick in Acclaim/LJN-type games since there's little chance of them appearing on any preloaded systems due to the movie and TV rights.
Even if full set collectors were to fade a bit, I think the rare games on any Nintendo system will always have a market. Once people realize they are rare, they become desirable.
I should have specified "fairly common" in my statement. Your stuff like Duck Tales 2 and up will still sell, but just about anything 20 bucks and less (my bread and butter for years) are deader than disco.
You know what's weird... or maybe not weird? There seems to be a bit of an uptick in Acclaim/LJN-type games since there's little chance of them appearing on any preloaded systems due to the movie and TV rights.
I figured peeps were just stuffing them with the full set of ROMS since you can play via HDMI with a "real" controller.
The only NES stuff I sold in Milwaukee were to the handful of full set people or to peeps that wanted to get Rampage signed.
MTG is just a nightmare with the centralized supply among dealers and entrepreneurs who come along and buy out every available copy of a card. Give me price spikes on video games people only care about because there's nothing left to collect any day. At least 3DO isn't increasing in price because of rampant speculation. There's like zero to one copy of half the library available for purchase online at any given time, it's just not out there.
If the MTG finance mentality comes to video games, not just at the super high end/sealed stuff, that will be fun
I used to hear about this kind of thing from the Turbografx-16 community. They'd claim there were huge numbers of people controlling the market. The reality is, TG16 stuff was just hot, and people were willing to pay prices higher than what the community arbitrarily thought was "correct." It was infuriating, because of this absurdist belief in some evil cabal of eBay sellers trying to create price demand, when it was really just real-world demand.
So, I'm skeptical when I hear the same thing about any collectable. MTG is (for some insane reason beyond my comprehension) incredibly popular right now. Is it possible that it's not just real-world demand, rather than scalpers?
It's mostly real world demand for MTG. That is why revised Underground Sea in bad condition is still very expensive and sells. People want the card to play in Vintage. Of course there are also collectors who will pay much more for high grades on rare cards, but that is also legitimate demand. There have been a few instances of someone driving up prices by buying all copies of a card (for example, I remember someone buying every Moat on Ebay and driving the price up) but that is pretty rare.
Also MTG is incredibly popular because it's one of the best games ever made
Price creep in MTG is a major problem in smaller cities and Middle America. Collectors and well-funded individuals in Silicon Valley, the Pacific Northwest and L.A. push the price of Magic cards so high that people in Flyover Country can't keep up. These high rollers live in cities where "geeks" make tons of money whereas in Middle America the people with high incomes work in construction, sell insurance and own things like bars and car dealerships... and don't play Magic. Since the high rollers would rather park their money in cards rather than the stock market since cards are more interseting to them it hurts the game in the rest of the country.
I can understand the Reserve List and why it exists so I'm not knocking that, but non-Reserve List cards need to come down since I can't sit on all these $40-200 cards for the rest of my life that people locally can't afford and are always selling to us immediatley after they pull them or take them out of their deck. Of course I can sell them online and eat the margin but it's sad that we have to do that.
The average spiked when that DinoPark Tycoon sold for $3000 (up from what, $1000? $2000?). Archon was probably the last person to buy a copy before it spiked, so he can tell you hard it spiked. Some other games like Gex doubled in price overnight when that happened. 3DO is cool but it's not THAT cool
Jeez - I thought you were joking! I thought Lucienne's Quest was the Magical Chase of the 3DO library but I didn't realize DinoPark Tycoon had reached the stratsophere price-wise! $3000 for DT is just ridiculous... and for MC as well (whatever it sells for now).
The average spiked when that DinoPark Tycoon sold for $3000 (up from what, $1000? $2000?). Archon was probably the last person to buy a copy before it spiked, so he can tell you hard it spiked. Some other games like Gex doubled in price overnight when that happened. 3DO is cool but it's not THAT cool
Jeez - I thought you were joking! I thought Lucienne's Quest was the Magical Chase of the 3DO library but I didn't realize DinoPark Tycoon had reached the stratsophere price-wise! $3000 for DT is just ridiculous... and for MC as well (whatever it sells for now).
There's also probably 10-20 copies of Magical Chase for every 1 DinoPark...