Except the gold nwc is basically just a no label version for all intents that has been bastardized and slapped in a leftover zelda case. That paste on inkjet label is atrocious looking and not a legit factory part. Its value is all smoke and mirrors compared to the real grey versions with actual serial numbers.
Except the gold nwc is basically just a no label version for all intents that has been bastardized and slapped in a leftover zelda case. That paste on inkjet label is atrocious looking and not a legit factory part. Its value is all smoke and mirrors compared to the real grey versions with actual serial numbers.
I have the same feeling. From a looks standpoint, I would much rather have a gray one (even if it does have the mottled glue look) rather than that horrid zero effort label they stuck on the gold.
As far as values go, Adam's purchase may have passed up the last known gold sale?
Except the gold nwc is basically just a no label version for all intents that has been bastardized and slapped in a leftover zelda case. That paste on inkjet label is atrocious looking and not a legit factory part. Its value is all smoke and mirrors compared to the real grey versions with actual serial numbers.
I have the same feeling. From a looks standpoint, I would much rather have a gray one (even if it does have the mottled glue look) rather than that horrid zero effort label they stuck on the gold.
As far as values go, Adam's purchase may have passed up the last known gold sale?
Naw.... DreamTR sold a couple for much more than that. The last known eBay sale was 26k 12/31/2014
Except the gold nwc is basically just a no label version for all intents that has been bastardized and slapped in a leftover zelda case. That paste on inkjet label is atrocious looking and not a legit factory part. Its value is all smoke and mirrors compared to the real grey versions with actual serial numbers.
Agreed 100%.... as you known from NEO Geo AES collecting .... it’s all in the paper! And there is no true way currently to verify the NWC label. Awesome piece and happy for anyone who has one but verifying is too much of a risk for me.
Except the gold nwc is basically just a no label version for all intents that has been bastardized and slapped in a leftover zelda case. That paste on inkjet label is atrocious looking and not a legit factory part. Its value is all smoke and mirrors compared to the real grey versions with actual serial numbers.
I have the same feeling. From a looks standpoint, I would much rather have a gray one (even if it does have the mottled glue look) rather than that horrid zero effort label they stuck on the gold.
As far as values go, Adam's purchase may have passed up the last known gold sale?
Holy shit, this is stunning news. Congrats to you and Dan. Truly amazing stuff. Personally, I think you made the right call selling the art at that price point. We've seen some incredibly noteworthy pieces of illustration art sell for less, even after premiums and such. Not exactly an apples to apples comparison, but I immediately think of the original art for Halloween. An older, instantly recognizable illustration from a huge franchise and one of the more collectible genres. That piece sold for $83,000. Best of all, you still have Street Fighter art in your collection and added another stunning piece to your collection with the NWC grey cart. Thanks for sharing all of this with us!
I mean no disrespect, but get your head examined sir.....
The same can be said when for any price above $30 for any game older than a half a decade, or any other time a top tier collectible in any hobby takes a price jump. This copy is also one of the nicest copies out there as it only suffers from minor peeling, a small ink blemish, light scuffing, and extremely light glue “mottling” (thanks for that word guys) There are VERY few copies out there that are nicer than this one.
I understand you wanted one at a certain price point and even put some big bucks on the table, and you still probably *can* get one for that price. Were in irrational territory with the new deep pockets entering our little hobby, so crazy unforeseen numbers are inevitable.
It seems the hobby is going straight to money right now, and losing a little heart and soul. But we’ve been headed that direction since the start of the decade when “my” generation woke up to nostalgia and for every sweetheart / buddy deal there’s 1000 business deals.
I mean no disrespect, but get your head examined sir.....
Hate to say it but this is a rather interesting (a bit bitter) comment..... you’ve tried to trade your way to one and it didn’t happen..... one could say you needed your head exam for how you went about the offers but is that called for? Be happy for someone and keep trying to obtain one instead of making comments that lack anything positive.
I mean no disrespect, but get your head examined sir.....
The same can be said when for any price above $30 for any game older than a half a decade, or any other time a top tier collectible in any hobby takes a price jump. This copy is also one of the nicest copies out there as it only suffers from minor peeling, a small ink blemish, light scuffing, and extremely light glue "mottling" (thanks for that word guys) There are VERY few copies out there that are nicer than this one.
I understand you wanted one at a certain price point and even put some big bucks on the table, and you still probably *can* get one for that price. Were in irrational territory with the new deep pockets entering our little hobby, so crazy unforeseen numbers are inevitable.
It seems the hobby is going straight to money right now, and losing a little heart and soul. But we've been headed that direction since the start of the decade when "my" generation woke up to nostalgia and for every sweetheart / buddy deal there's 1000 business deals.
No doubt things are on the rise. And this is one of the nicest NWC carts that I have seen. However. It's not $42K nice in my opinion. And I highly doubt there would be very many people willing to pony up that kind of cash on that cart. One ridiculous sale, does not dictate market value. If we see another sale like this anytime in the near future, I will be astonished.
That being said, as long as Adam is happy with his purchase, that's all that matters. Again, I mean no disrespect when talking about this
And I highly doubt there would be very many people willing to pony up that kind of cash on that cart.
There's at least one.
I don't think you can really appy "market value," as so few change hands over a given time. I think it's an in the moment what the particular buyer and seller at this particular moment can agree to type of deal.
I mean no disrespect, but get your head examined sir.....
The same can be said when for any price above $30 for any game older than a half a decade, or any other time a top tier collectible in any hobby takes a price jump. This copy is also one of the nicest copies out there as it only suffers from minor peeling, a small ink blemish, light scuffing, and extremely light glue "mottling" (thanks for that word guys) There are VERY few copies out there that are nicer than this one.
I understand you wanted one at a certain price point and even put some big bucks on the table, and you still probably *can* get one for that price. Were in irrational territory with the new deep pockets entering our little hobby, so crazy unforeseen numbers are inevitable.
It seems the hobby is going straight to money right now, and losing a little heart and soul. But we've been headed that direction since the start of the decade when "my" generation woke up to nostalgia and for every sweetheart / buddy deal there's 1000 business deals.
No doubt things are on the rise. And this is one of the nicest NWC carts that I have seen. However. It's not $42K nice in my opinion. And I highly doubt there would be very many people willing to pony up that kind of cash on that cart. One ridiculous sale, does not dictate market value. If we see another sale like this anytime in the near future, I will be astonished. That being said, as long as Adam is happy with his purchase, that's all that matters. Again, I mean no disrespect when talking about this
No offense taken. I’ve been collecting since the 90s and people have said things like this before. You can’t win a bidding war if you aren’t willing to pay more than anyone else.
I”m happy with the purchase price as condition was important to me.
It has been 11 years since I sold my Gold NWC. How much longer would I have to wait to find a better example than this one?
Ya while I do agree 42K seems too high, I have overpaid for things based on condition, it's all about what its worth to you! I just bought a house I really wanted based on location... more than value. So when we're talking about a game or piece of art where only a few exist in nice shape... you have to pay up to pry it away. My take is 98viper is worried this spike will make it impossible for him to get one but, my guess... if anything I can see the price going down. Hell the whole market has slowed to a halt and my kids won't care about this cart or really any Nes games, its a sad fact that demand ages out.... but i'm never selling.. i'm in the hobby because i love it, not business! Like I said its what its worth to you and im sure the buyer has made enough huge profit sales that its not really costing anything but out of his fun money so god speed!
I mean no disrespect, but get your head examined sir.....
The same can be said when for any price above $30 for any game older than a half a decade, or any other time a top tier collectible in any hobby takes a price jump. This copy is also one of the nicest copies out there as it only suffers from minor peeling, a small ink blemish, light scuffing, and extremely light glue "mottling" (thanks for that word guys) There are VERY few copies out there that are nicer than this one.
I understand you wanted one at a certain price point and even put some big bucks on the table, and you still probably *can* get one for that price. Were in irrational territory with the new deep pockets entering our little hobby, so crazy unforeseen numbers are inevitable.
It seems the hobby is going straight to money right now, and losing a little heart and soul. But we've been headed that direction since the start of the decade when "my" generation woke up to nostalgia and for every sweetheart / buddy deal there's 1000 business deals.
No doubt things are on the rise. And this is one of the nicest NWC carts that I have seen. However. It's not $42K nice in my opinion. And I highly doubt there would be very many people willing to pony up that kind of cash on that cart. One ridiculous sale, does not dictate market value. If we see another sale like this anytime in the near future, I will be astonished. That being said, as long as Adam is happy with his purchase, that's all that matters. Again, I mean no disrespect when talking about this
I don't think this sale means every NWC is automatically over $42K now. It does mean that this was worth it to the buyer to pay a premium over "current market value" to get one that looks this nice while it was available.
The other ones currently being sold much higher than your trade bait offer is what's gonna keep you from owning one, not this particular sale.
Archon and Gamerboy must be pretty happy right now to have bought theirs when they did! What with both this sale and the HA one going on right now, looks like the window on NWC for mere mortals to own is finally closing!
I'm not surprised at all, with how notorious and exclusive it is, can only see the price going up from here.
As the old saying goes something is only worth what one is willing to pay for it ..I think official NWC carts (both Grey and Gold )will always be valuable ..That being stated do I believe it is $42K (or $100K in the case of a Gold NWC)no ,but I do believe these will only continue to grow in value ..I am glad that I had an opportunity to acquire one before these truly become unobtainable.I am happy with my Grey NWC ,as I have absolutely no desire to own a Gold NWC .As for the prices some folks pay for collectibles I can not make a statement in regards to someone’s state of mind for choosing to pay what I deem to be exorbitant prices on stuff ,as long as it’s not my money I don’t care what one pays for an item .What I question is when one takes out a loan to buy collectibles ,especially video game related collectibles.
Also, regarding the comments on the Gold NWCs. I'm sure that if and when these things start commandinf multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars, it will be worth having the paper and ink evaluted on the Gold NWCs. We say that they are easy to fake but somwithing legit aged with time can't be faked. I'm sure some archival facility has ways of verifying the age of paper and even printed ink.
IMHO, if you can prove one of those crappy NWC gold labels is in fact as old as it should be, you've done your due dilligence. It might take $1,000-2,000 to properly get the analysis work done without damaging, but it should prove the legitimacy. Provenance is still important. Also, this might not be true with games but for some collectibles, the more poorly manufactured the toy or item, the more valuable it is when it's complete or intact because it wasn't designed to last. In another 20-50 years, a verified gold could be the "grail" to own. I'm not saying it will be the case, but it easily could be.
Jason (DreamTR) is holding the keys on the future for easy NWC Gold authentication since he had most of these go through his hands and likely knows which copies came from which owners and has photos of each.
They're all easily verified if he kept proper records because of the fact that they're assembled by hand. Each NWC Gold has three unique signatures.
1. Position of the label (Easy to notice)
2. Condition of the label / cartridge (Easy to notice)
3. DIP Switch cutout imperfections (Hard to notice)
In the event he didn't keep records like these then some information is lost to the sands of time. But not all.
Known verified copies have photos all over the internet and while it would be a task and a half, I'm sure the provenance of each copy could be pieced together. That being said, a "new" copy should always be treated as fake until proven real.
Also, NWC Gold May be frankensteined hacky stuff. But it has its arguments to legitimacy since it was...
1. Advertised
2. Made by an official Nintendo owned company
3. Was made with the intent of being given to the public
That also being said, it's still special enough to not be part of the "set"
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Do you think this will raise the asking prices of all NWCs as people ignore the condition factor?
I do but 30s would be my guess. The Heritage auction to me will be the baseline.
Imagine 70+ sealed copies of any other game.
Yeah, it's the holy grail title, but it's also a very attainable title with that many copies floating around.
Even half of all the Golds are known to be in collector hands, but that's a much more limited 13 copies.
I suppose a rising tide raises all ships.
Except the gold nwc is basically just a no label version for all intents that has been bastardized and slapped in a leftover zelda case. That paste on inkjet label is atrocious looking and not a legit factory part. Its value is all smoke and mirrors compared to the real grey versions with actual serial numbers.
I have the same feeling. From a looks standpoint, I would much rather have a gray one (even if it does have the mottled glue look) rather than that horrid zero effort label they stuck on the gold.
As far as values go, Adam's purchase may have passed up the last known gold sale?
Except the gold nwc is basically just a no label version for all intents that has been bastardized and slapped in a leftover zelda case. That paste on inkjet label is atrocious looking and not a legit factory part. Its value is all smoke and mirrors compared to the real grey versions with actual serial numbers.
I have the same feeling. From a looks standpoint, I would much rather have a gray one (even if it does have the mottled glue look) rather than that horrid zero effort label they stuck on the gold.
As far as values go, Adam's purchase may have passed up the last known gold sale?
Naw.... DreamTR sold a couple for much more than that. The last known eBay sale was 26k 12/31/2014
Except the gold nwc is basically just a no label version for all intents that has been bastardized and slapped in a leftover zelda case. That paste on inkjet label is atrocious looking and not a legit factory part. Its value is all smoke and mirrors compared to the real grey versions with actual serial numbers.
Agreed 100%.... as you known from NEO Geo AES collecting .... it’s all in the paper! And there is no true way currently to verify the NWC label. Awesome piece and happy for anyone who has one but verifying is too much of a risk for me.
Except the gold nwc is basically just a no label version for all intents that has been bastardized and slapped in a leftover zelda case. That paste on inkjet label is atrocious looking and not a legit factory part. Its value is all smoke and mirrors compared to the real grey versions with actual serial numbers.
I have the same feeling. From a looks standpoint, I would much rather have a gray one (even if it does have the mottled glue look) rather than that horrid zero effort label they stuck on the gold.
As far as values go, Adam's purchase may have passed up the last known gold sale?
I think DreamTR sold a Gold NWC for a $100K ..
I mean no disrespect, but get your head examined sir.....
$42K?
I mean no disrespect, but get your head examined sir.....
The same can be said when for any price above $30 for any game older than a half a decade, or any other time a top tier collectible in any hobby takes a price jump. This copy is also one of the nicest copies out there as it only suffers from minor peeling, a small ink blemish, light scuffing, and extremely light glue “mottling” (thanks for that word guys) There are VERY few copies out there that are nicer than this one.
I understand you wanted one at a certain price point and even put some big bucks on the table, and you still probably *can* get one for that price. Were in irrational territory with the new deep pockets entering our little hobby, so crazy unforeseen numbers are inevitable.
It seems the hobby is going straight to money right now, and losing a little heart and soul. But we’ve been headed that direction since the start of the decade when “my” generation woke up to nostalgia and for every sweetheart / buddy deal there’s 1000 business deals.
$42K?
I mean no disrespect, but get your head examined sir.....
Hate to say it but this is a rather interesting (a bit bitter) comment..... you’ve tried to trade your way to one and it didn’t happen..... one could say you needed your head exam for how you went about the offers but is that called for? Be happy for someone and keep trying to obtain one instead of making comments that lack anything positive.
$42K?
I mean no disrespect, but get your head examined sir.....
The same can be said when for any price above $30 for any game older than a half a decade, or any other time a top tier collectible in any hobby takes a price jump. This copy is also one of the nicest copies out there as it only suffers from minor peeling, a small ink blemish, light scuffing, and extremely light glue "mottling" (thanks for that word guys) There are VERY few copies out there that are nicer than this one.
I understand you wanted one at a certain price point and even put some big bucks on the table, and you still probably *can* get one for that price. Were in irrational territory with the new deep pockets entering our little hobby, so crazy unforeseen numbers are inevitable.
It seems the hobby is going straight to money right now, and losing a little heart and soul. But we've been headed that direction since the start of the decade when "my" generation woke up to nostalgia and for every sweetheart / buddy deal there's 1000 business deals.
No doubt things are on the rise. And this is one of the nicest NWC carts that I have seen. However. It's not $42K nice in my opinion. And I highly doubt there would be very many people willing to pony up that kind of cash on that cart. One ridiculous sale, does not dictate market value. If we see another sale like this anytime in the near future, I will be astonished.
That being said, as long as Adam is happy with his purchase, that's all that matters. Again, I mean no disrespect when talking about this
And I highly doubt there would be very many people willing to pony up that kind of cash on that cart.
There's at least one.
I don't think you can really appy "market value," as so few change hands over a given time. I think it's an in the moment what the particular buyer and seller at this particular moment can agree to type of deal.
$42K?
I mean no disrespect, but get your head examined sir.....
The same can be said when for any price above $30 for any game older than a half a decade, or any other time a top tier collectible in any hobby takes a price jump. This copy is also one of the nicest copies out there as it only suffers from minor peeling, a small ink blemish, light scuffing, and extremely light glue "mottling" (thanks for that word guys) There are VERY few copies out there that are nicer than this one.
I understand you wanted one at a certain price point and even put some big bucks on the table, and you still probably *can* get one for that price. Were in irrational territory with the new deep pockets entering our little hobby, so crazy unforeseen numbers are inevitable.
It seems the hobby is going straight to money right now, and losing a little heart and soul. But we've been headed that direction since the start of the decade when "my" generation woke up to nostalgia and for every sweetheart / buddy deal there's 1000 business deals.
No doubt things are on the rise. And this is one of the nicest NWC carts that I have seen. However. It's not $42K nice in my opinion. And I highly doubt there would be very many people willing to pony up that kind of cash on that cart. One ridiculous sale, does not dictate market value. If we see another sale like this anytime in the near future, I will be astonished. That being said, as long as Adam is happy with his purchase, that's all that matters. Again, I mean no disrespect when talking about this
No offense taken. I’ve been collecting since the 90s and people have said things like this before. You can’t win a bidding war if you aren’t willing to pay more than anyone else.
I”m happy with the purchase price as condition was important to me.
It has been 11 years since I sold my Gold NWC. How much longer would I have to wait to find a better example than this one?
http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=7755.
I'm a bit surprised the seller didn't wait for the Heritage auction to end. It's already over $20,000.
The last time I checked the auction on Heritage Auctions for the NWC is sitting at $17K .
With the buyer premium, it's over $20,000.
Yes your right ,my bad ..
$42K?
I mean no disrespect, but get your head examined sir.....
The same can be said when for any price above $30 for any game older than a half a decade, or any other time a top tier collectible in any hobby takes a price jump. This copy is also one of the nicest copies out there as it only suffers from minor peeling, a small ink blemish, light scuffing, and extremely light glue "mottling" (thanks for that word guys) There are VERY few copies out there that are nicer than this one.
I understand you wanted one at a certain price point and even put some big bucks on the table, and you still probably *can* get one for that price. Were in irrational territory with the new deep pockets entering our little hobby, so crazy unforeseen numbers are inevitable.
It seems the hobby is going straight to money right now, and losing a little heart and soul. But we've been headed that direction since the start of the decade when "my" generation woke up to nostalgia and for every sweetheart / buddy deal there's 1000 business deals.
No doubt things are on the rise. And this is one of the nicest NWC carts that I have seen. However. It's not $42K nice in my opinion. And I highly doubt there would be very many people willing to pony up that kind of cash on that cart. One ridiculous sale, does not dictate market value. If we see another sale like this anytime in the near future, I will be astonished. That being said, as long as Adam is happy with his purchase, that's all that matters. Again, I mean no disrespect when talking about this
I don't think this sale means every NWC is automatically over $42K now. It does mean that this was worth it to the buyer to pay a premium over "current market value" to get one that looks this nice while it was available.
The other ones currently being sold much higher than your trade bait offer is what's gonna keep you from owning one, not this particular sale.
I'm not surprised at all, with how notorious and exclusive it is, can only see the price going up from here.
Maybe one day my lucky numbers will get called and I'll have enough for one
Also, regarding the comments on the Gold NWCs. I'm sure that if and when these things start commandinf multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars, it will be worth having the paper and ink evaluted on the Gold NWCs. We say that they are easy to fake but somwithing legit aged with time can't be faked. I'm sure some archival facility has ways of verifying the age of paper and even printed ink.
IMHO, if you can prove one of those crappy NWC gold labels is in fact as old as it should be, you've done your due dilligence. It might take $1,000-2,000 to properly get the analysis work done without damaging, but it should prove the legitimacy. Provenance is still important. Also, this might not be true with games but for some collectibles, the more poorly manufactured the toy or item, the more valuable it is when it's complete or intact because it wasn't designed to last. In another 20-50 years, a verified gold could be the "grail" to own. I'm not saying it will be the case, but it easily could be.
They're all easily verified if he kept proper records because of the fact that they're assembled by hand. Each NWC Gold has three unique signatures.
1. Position of the label (Easy to notice)
2. Condition of the label / cartridge (Easy to notice)
3. DIP Switch cutout imperfections (Hard to notice)
In the event he didn't keep records like these then some information is lost to the sands of time. But not all.
Known verified copies have photos all over the internet and while it would be a task and a half, I'm sure the provenance of each copy could be pieced together. That being said, a "new" copy should always be treated as fake until proven real.
Also, NWC Gold May be frankensteined hacky stuff. But it has its arguments to legitimacy since it was...
1. Advertised
2. Made by an official Nintendo owned company
3. Was made with the intent of being given to the public
That also being said, it's still special enough to not be part of the "set"