What is going on with Nintendoage?
As we all know by now, Nintendoage has been bought out by a guy named Jeff (welcome by the way). However, there has been a lot of craziness surrounding by this. This announcement came out of left field and there seems to be no central place for the information on what is going on, so I decided to step up to the plate to help with this because this is stupid, especially considering there is little to no communication even with the staff here.
I'm going to going to say this now, keep your opinions out. Let's not litter this thread with with all the crazyness from the announcement thread. If you have something to say offtopic or nonconstructive, here here is the thread to do it in:
NA Is Dead:http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=187265
That being said, ask your questions relating to questions that you might have regarding the current state of Nintendoage. I will try my best to update things as I go.
Most of my questions pertain to transparency.
I think this is a decent start, I am tired and it is 3AM, please comment so we can build a nice Q & A. The next post should have other user questions and answers.
I'm going to going to say this now, keep your opinions out. Let's not litter this thread with with all the crazyness from the announcement thread. If you have something to say offtopic or nonconstructive, here here is the thread to do it in:
NA Is Dead:http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=187265
That being said, ask your questions relating to questions that you might have regarding the current state of Nintendoage. I will try my best to update things as I go.
Most of my questions pertain to transparency.
- You said something along the lines of your motive is to mine data from here. What exactly are you looking for?
- What are going to be the sources for this (forums, main site, messages)?
- You used the word data a few times, but didn't elaborate, please do.
- Are you planning on monetizing the site?
- If so, please elaborate.
- What changes (if any) do you plan on making for protecting the users themselves in regards to private information?
- Private Messages in particular
- When is communication with Mods and Admins gonna happen. As far as I have seen, communication has been scarce with them
- They run this site and volunteer their time and energy. They at least deserve to be in the loop, and as far as I've seen, communication has been pretty abismal.
- But that's just me looking from the outside
- They run this site and volunteer their time and energy. They at least deserve to be in the loop, and as far as I've seen, communication has been pretty abismal.
I think this is a decent start, I am tired and it is 3AM, please comment so we can build a nice Q & A. The next post should have other user questions and answers.
Comments
Serious question for Jeff; I'll link you my thread here since you may not have seen it pop up: http://nintendoage.com/forum/mess...
Any chance you can resolve the problems I point out in that thread?
Dain had a certain level of trust that most of us granted where we were less concerned than we probably should have been about the general lack of site security.
Some random buyer that now wants to mine data from the site certainly doesn't have, or deserve, that trust.
The biggest good will, trust earning, gesture that could happen right now would be an offer to fully nuke the PM history of anyone that requests it. (Or somehow write an algorithm that at least nuked all name, email, PayPal, and physical address data)
The privacy aspect is the core issue of a site changing hands, IMO.
I definitely want to see the answer on PMs and private threads.
Dain had a certain level of trust that most of us granted where we were less concerned than we probably should have been about the general lack of site security.
Some random buyer that now wants to mine data from the site certainly doesn't have, or deserve, that trust.
The biggest good will, trust earning, gesture that could happen right now would be an offer to fully nuke the PM history of anyone that requests it. (Or somehow write an algorithm that at least nuked all name, email, PayPal, and physical address data)
The privacy aspect is the core issue of a site changing hands, IMO.
“Nuking” will only prevent YOU from seeing your old messages, along with “Edit-to-delete” any of your old posts.
Stuff is all easily archived. Pandoras box once opened cannot be closed.
Also, lots of users are known on a first name basis here. You would be amazed how easy it is to find someone’s address, place of work, family members, phone numbers, and other stuff just by being an active member on the site and knowing how to use google and other whitelisting sites
Theres no real privacy unless you acted completely anonymously or used a pseudonym for your real name. Like if I went by “Jake” instead of “Joseph”
All you need to pinpoint anyone here on the forum is at least two bits of information. If there were to be any malicious attacks with address information then it would have already happened.
Also heaven forbid you have ever publicly posted on ANY WEBSITE ANYWHERE an email address or other indentifying bits of information using the same username or even worst posted connecting information using different usernames...it can paint a picture of your entire online persona.
I'm fortunate enough that searching for "Joseph Leo" and "Bew Jersey" will mostly get whitewashed by a Broadway actor with the same name as me...but even then just type "-Bawrie" and suddenly my life is on display.
I definitely want to see the answer on PMs and private threads.
Dain had a certain level of trust that most of us granted where we were less concerned than we probably should have been about the general lack of site security.
Some random buyer that now wants to mine data from the site certainly doesn't have, or deserve, that trust.
The biggest good will, trust earning, gesture that could happen right now would be an offer to fully nuke the PM history of anyone that requests it. (Or somehow write an algorithm that at least nuked all name, email, PayPal, and physical address data)
The privacy aspect is the core issue of a site changing hands, IMO.
"Nuking" will only prevent YOU from seeing your old messages, along with "Edit-to-delete" any of your old posts.
Stuff is all easily archived. Pandoras box once opened cannot be closed.
Also, lots of users are known on a first name basis here. You would be amazed how easy it is to find someone's address, place of work, family members, phone numbers, and other stuff just by being an active member on the site and knowing how to use google and other whitelisting sites
Theres no real privacy unless you acted completely anonymously or used a pseudonym for your real name. Like if I went by "Jake" instead of "Joseph"
All you need to pinpoint anyone here on the forum is at least two bits of information. If there were to be any malicious attacks with address information then it would have already happened.
Also heaven forbid you have ever publicly posted on ANY WEBSITE ANYWHERE an email address or other indentifying bits of information using the same username or even worst posted connecting information using different usernames...it can paint a picture of your entire online persona.
I'm fortunate enough that searching for "Joseph Leo" and "Bew Jersey" will mostly get whitewashed by a Broadway actor with the same name as me...but even then just type "-Bawrie" and suddenly my life is on display.
Permanent deletion is possible with sufficient admin privileges, archives and all.
Talking about PMs and private threads, that have never been visible to search engines for external archiving, not public threads which are almost certainly scraped and preserved somewhere else.
I definitely want to see the answer on PMs and private threads.
Dain had a certain level of trust that most of us granted where we were less concerned than we probably should have been about the general lack of site security.
Some random buyer that now wants to mine data from the site certainly doesn't have, or deserve, that trust.
The biggest good will, trust earning, gesture that could happen right now would be an offer to fully nuke the PM history of anyone that requests it. (Or somehow write an algorithm that at least nuked all name, email, PayPal, and physical address data)
The privacy aspect is the core issue of a site changing hands, IMO.
"Nuking" will only prevent YOU from seeing your old messages, along with "Edit-to-delete" any of your old posts.
Stuff is all easily archived. Pandoras box once opened cannot be closed.
Also, lots of users are known on a first name basis here. You would be amazed how easy it is to find someone's address, place of work, family members, phone numbers, and other stuff just by being an active member on the site and knowing how to use google and other whitelisting sites
Theres no real privacy unless you acted completely anonymously or used a pseudonym for your real name. Like if I went by "Jake" instead of "Joseph"
All you need to pinpoint anyone here on the forum is at least two bits of information. If there were to be any malicious attacks with address information then it would have already happened.
Also heaven forbid you have ever publicly posted on ANY WEBSITE ANYWHERE an email address or other indentifying bits of information using the same username or even worst posted connecting information using different usernames...it can paint a picture of your entire online persona.
I'm fortunate enough that searching for "Joseph Leo" and "Bew Jersey" will mostly get whitewashed by a Broadway actor with the same name as me...but even then just type "-Bawrie" and suddenly my life is on display.
Permanent deletion is possible with sufficient admin privileges, archives and all. Talking about PMs and private threads, that have never been visible to search engines for external archiving, not public threads which are almost certainly scraped and preserved somewhere else.
I see your point, but That still requires a level of trust.
The new owner claims he won’t scan our PMs and that’s just as good as him actually implementing a nuke feature because we have to trust that even if such a feature was implemented that he won’t have a controlled archive elsewhere.
I definitely want to see the answer on PMs and private threads.
Dain had a certain level of trust that most of us granted where we were less concerned than we probably should have been about the general lack of site security.
Some random buyer that now wants to mine data from the site certainly doesn't have, or deserve, that trust.
The biggest good will, trust earning, gesture that could happen right now would be an offer to fully nuke the PM history of anyone that requests it. (Or somehow write an algorithm that at least nuked all name, email, PayPal, and physical address data)
The privacy aspect is the core issue of a site changing hands, IMO.
"Nuking" will only prevent YOU from seeing your old messages, along with "Edit-to-delete" any of your old posts.
Stuff is all easily archived. Pandoras box once opened cannot be closed.
Also, lots of users are known on a first name basis here. You would be amazed how easy it is to find someone's address, place of work, family members, phone numbers, and other stuff just by being an active member on the site and knowing how to use google and other whitelisting sites
Theres no real privacy unless you acted completely anonymously or used a pseudonym for your real name. Like if I went by "Jake" instead of "Joseph"
All you need to pinpoint anyone here on the forum is at least two bits of information. If there were to be any malicious attacks with address information then it would have already happened.
Also heaven forbid you have ever publicly posted on ANY WEBSITE ANYWHERE an email address or other indentifying bits of information using the same username or even worst posted connecting information using different usernames...it can paint a picture of your entire online persona.
I'm fortunate enough that searching for "Joseph Leo" and "Bew Jersey" will mostly get whitewashed by a Broadway actor with the same name as me...but even then just type "-Bawrie" and suddenly my life is on display.
Permanent deletion is possible with sufficient admin privileges, archives and all. Talking about PMs and private threads, that have never been visible to search engines for external archiving, not public threads which are almost certainly scraped and preserved somewhere else.
I see your point, but That still requires a level of trust.
The new owner claims he won't scan our PMs and that's just as good as him actually implementing a nuke feature because we have to trust that even if such a feature was implemented that he won't have a controlled archive elsewhere.
It is by no means "just as good".
A current admin (who HAS earned our trust) could confirm a true nuke.
Nobody can confirm that Jeff upholds his current statement of PM and private thread usage, other than trusting Jeff.
That is part of the point, about this being a very significant gesture that could provably earn trust during the transition.