Introducing: Wata Games Certification

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  • Originally posted by: superNESman

     
    Originally posted by: Niku-Sama



    how are portable systems and games coming along?

    Also whats the word on PSX Long Box?



    Gameboy, GBC, and GBA will be officially available for submissions in March. Keep an eye out for announcements!

     



    Can't wait for this! I haven't done a submission yet and am looking forward to submitting a handheld item or two with it.



    Question though: Are double disc games for PS1 or DC available for submission yet?
  • Originally posted by: BalloonFight

     
    Originally posted by: superNESman

     
    Originally posted by: Niku-Sama



    how are portable systems and games coming along?

    Also whats the word on PSX Long Box?



    Gameboy, GBC, and GBA will be officially available for submissions in March. Keep an eye out for announcements!

     



    Can't wait for this! I haven't done a submission yet and am looking forward to submitting a handheld item or two with it.



    Question though: Are double disc games for PS1 or DC available for submission yet?



    Awesome! At the same time Gameboy games will be announced, so will PS1 single and double Jewel (including CDi, Dreamcast, etc.), and 2600. Coming right up!  

     
  • Most Recent Updates -- February 14, 2019



    Remember the sticker sealed Super Mario Bros. we certified some time ago? Well, turns out it just sold for a record $100,150...amazing! We're honored to have been able to preserve this historic item for the seller and current buyers. What a time to be alive! You can read more about the sale here:



    https://www.ha.com/heritage-auctions-press-releases-and-news/copy-of-super-mario-bros.-video-game-sets-world-record-price-of-100-150.s?releaseId=3583
  • Well done.
  • I'd like to formally apologize for my previous posts in this thread.



    I was a little unsure before but that was strictly because of my ignorance.



    I "get it" now.
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: BriGuy82



    Honestly, not sure if I like the idea of grading loose games. If I'm understanding correctly, this is the big thing that would really separate you guys from vga.

    My initial reading of it made it feel like the point was more about "authentication" and noting cosmetic changes or alterations, rather than "grading" in the sense of how we perceive what VGA provides as a service.



    I would have assumed that service only really matters for a handful of games per system, but it will be interesting to see how it unfolds.



    What’s the issue with grading loose carts? 

     
  • Originally posted by: skinnygrinny

    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: BriGuy82



    Honestly, not sure if I like the idea of grading loose games. If I'm understanding correctly, this is the big thing that would really separate you guys from vga.

    My initial reading of it made it feel like the point was more about "authentication" and noting cosmetic changes or alterations, rather than "grading" in the sense of how we perceive what VGA provides as a service.



    I would have assumed that service only really matters for a handful of games per system, but it will be interesting to see how it unfolds.



    What's the issue with grading loose carts? 

     





    C'mon my skinny. That's a throw back quote right there. I have no issue with grading loose carts.
  • Originally posted by: BriGuy82

     
    Originally posted by: skinnygrinny

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: BriGuy82



    Honestly, not sure if I like the idea of grading loose games. If I'm understanding correctly, this is the big thing that would really separate you guys from vga.

    My initial reading of it made it feel like the point was more about "authentication" and noting cosmetic changes or alterations, rather than "grading" in the sense of how we perceive what VGA provides as a service.



    I would have assumed that service only really matters for a handful of games per system, but it will be interesting to see how it unfolds.



    What's the issue with grading loose carts? 

     







    C'mon my skinny. That's a throw back quote right there. I have no issue with grading loose carts.



    The forum should have a confirmation check of "are you sure you want to quote a year-old post"  

     
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: BriGuy82

     
    Originally posted by: skinnygrinny

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: BriGuy82



    Honestly, not sure if I like the idea of grading loose games. If I'm understanding correctly, this is the big thing that would really separate you guys from vga.

    My initial reading of it made it feel like the point was more about "authentication" and noting cosmetic changes or alterations, rather than "grading" in the sense of how we perceive what VGA provides as a service.



    I would have assumed that service only really matters for a handful of games per system, but it will be interesting to see how it unfolds.



    What's the issue with grading loose carts? 

     







    C'mon my skinny. That's a throw back quote right there. I have no issue with grading loose carts.



    The forum should have a confirmation check of "are you sure you want to quote a year-old post"  

     



    Lol. My fault fellas. 

     
  • Hey guys, will WATA be grading consoles? Specifically a sealed original Game Boy?
  • Most Recent Updates -- May 16, 2019



    Heritage Auctions' May Signature Auctions go live in just three hours! There are three sessions that feature video games. The first two sessions are today, and will be Floor bidding -- you can go to HA during the auctions and watch the event live as everything is auctioned in Chicago. 



    https://comics.ha.com/c/auction-home.zx?saleNo=7209&ic=hero-Comics-Auction-AuctionInfo-7209-041919



    Session 1: Platinum Session (Starts @ 12:00: PM CST)
    • The Platinum session is reserved for the cream of the crop and highest value items. The two games featured in the Platinum session are the last two items that will sell in the session, and they are one of only two known sealed Donkey Kong 3 HT's, and NWC Grey #260. 

    Session 2: Floor Session (Starts @ 2:30PM CST)
    • The Second floor session features many more rarities, approximately 30 different games will be auctioned live today.

    Session 3: Internet Session (Starts @ 5:30PM CST, Saturday May 18)
    • The third session will not have live floor bidding like today, but will still feature some fantastic games. Bidding is open but will go live online this Saturday evening -- these auctions will operate just like the weekly Sunday night auctions and will feature approximately 20 different games.
  • Are there any plans to begin accepting Gizmondo games?
  • So thoughts on this one? 8.5 / A+ yet back of slab says 8.0 / A+. Is the 8.5 wrong or is the 8.0 wrong? Kind of important to know if bidding on that.



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  • I asked before but I didn't get an answer. Is it possible to have the label read "Cartridge" instead of "Cart?"
  • Originally posted by: jonebone



    So thoughts on this one? 8.5 / A+ yet back of slab says 8.0 / A+. Is the 8.5 wrong or is the 8.0 wrong? Kind of important to know if bidding on that.

     



    This is not the first time attention to detail has been reported slipping. This is a big miss on their part. 

     
  • What the hells a reholder?

  • Originally posted by: Ferris Bueller



    What the hells a reholder?





    Wut?
  • Also curious when that dang Matrix App is coming! :-)
  • HOriginally posted by: barrels

     
    Originally posted by: jonebone



    So thoughts on this one? 8.5 / A+ yet back of slab says 8.0 / A+. Is the 8.5 wrong or is the 8.0 wrong? Kind of important to know if bidding on that.

     



    This is not the first time attention to detail has been reported slipping. This is a big miss on their part. 

     



    Might show my ignorance here.



    could it be 8.5 overall 8.0 box? 



    Just curious what the reason is as well.

     
  • Originally posted by: bootload



    I asked before but I didn't get an answer. Is it possible to have the label read "Cartridge" instead of "Cart?"

    I don’t know :/ 



     
  • Anyone have an opinion on sending a CIB Super Mario World in for grading? It's an original (not million seller). Good but not perfect box. It's somewhat uncommon/rare but don't know if there'd be a demand for a graded CIB.



    Pics - https://imgur.com/a/XaU3XJh
  • Just fyi, if you are submitting a CIB and the black cart sleeve inside is not an official Nintendo sleeve, you're getting an "IMP" marking, which means no comic crossover will want it, and you're paying like $85 to send it back in and fix it.



     
  • Originally posted by: ExplodedHamster



    Just fyi, if you are submitting a CIB and the black cart sleeve inside is not an official Nintendo sleeve, you're getting an "IMP" marking, which means no comic crossover will want it, and you're paying like $85 to send it back in and fix it.



    Would have been nice to know this beforehand, but whatever.





    Why would anyone want to mismatch game sleeves from third party companies just to avoid a IMP marking? It seems counterintuitive to take the proper black sleeve out and swap in a Nintendo sleeve that never originally came with the game.
  • Originally posted by: bootload

     
    Originally posted by: ExplodedHamster



    Just fyi, if you are submitting a CIB and the black cart sleeve inside is not an official Nintendo sleeve, you're getting an "IMP" marking, which means no comic crossover will want it, and you're paying like $85 to send it back in and fix it.



    Would have been nice to know this beforehand, but whatever.





    Why would anyone want to mismatch game sleeves from third party companies just to avoid a IMP marking? It seems counterintuitive to take the proper black sleeve out and swap in a Nintendo sleeve that never originally came with the game.



    Well, it would have to be a first party game with a black or a third party with a Nintendo. These get switched often over the years by sellers, re-sellers etc. I honestly wouldn't have thought it mattered either way, given it's not part of the grade.

     
  • Originally posted by: ExplodedHamster



    Just fyi, if you are submitting a CIB and the black cart sleeve inside is not an official Nintendo sleeve, you're getting an "IMP" marking, which means no comic crossover will want it, and you're paying like $85 to send it back in and fix it.



    Would have been nice to know this beforehand, but whatever.



    Probably the most expensive CIB Zelda that ever sold had the wrong manual and people were crazy to buy it   But yeah, $2000 Zelda box vs average CIB game with the scarlet letter(s). One of Wata's feature articles should be which games have Nintendo sleeves, shiny Nintendo sleeves, textured black sleeves, flat black sleeves, and third party sleeves. I know this info is out there, but one big definitive list to check before submitting would be really nice. Or hey, GoCollect Jim, want to get the jump on Wata on serving the community?  



     
    Originally posted by: A_Feisty_Pickle



    Anyone have an opinion on sending a CIB Super Mario World in for grading? It's an original (not million seller). Good but not perfect box. It's somewhat uncommon/rare but don't know if there'd be a demand for a graded CIB.



    Pics - https://imgur.com/a/XaU3XJh



    I wouldn't personally grade it for my own collection, I'd spend the grading/shipping/insurance money seeking out a better box. If you wanted to sell it, it's rarer than left bros Mario 3 and one hasn't sold on HA yet. I've been waiting for SMW to pop up, or really any CIB SNES games, there hasn't been much. I know some people are early NES ride or die, so would be interesting to see if anyone cares about graded CIB Mario World, Yoshi's Island, Mario RPG, FF3, Chrono Trigger, etc.



    FYI I'm not an expert but I'd bet that SNS-MW-USA-2 manual doesn't belong to that box. I'd double check the contents if you intend to grade it.
  • Originally posted by: A_Feisty_Pickle



    Anyone have an opinion on sending a CIB Super Mario World in for grading? It's an original (not million seller). Good but not perfect box. It's somewhat uncommon/rare but don't know if there'd be a demand for a graded CIB.



    Pics - https://imgur.com/a/XaU3XJh

    The manual and the box are not a match and the condition of the box would make this a waste attempting to grade it. 



     
  • Originally posted by: ExplodedHamster

     
    Originally posted by: bootload

     
    Originally posted by: ExplodedHamster



    Just fyi, if you are submitting a CIB and the black cart sleeve inside is not an official Nintendo sleeve, you're getting an "IMP" marking, which means no comic crossover will want it, and you're paying like $85 to send it back in and fix it.



    Would have been nice to know this beforehand, but whatever.





    Why would anyone want to mismatch game sleeves from third party companies just to avoid a IMP marking? It seems counterintuitive to take the proper black sleeve out and swap in a Nintendo sleeve that never originally came with the game.



    Well, it would have to be a first party game with a black or a third party with a Nintendo. These get switched often over the years by sellers, re-sellers etc. I honestly wouldn't have thought it mattered either way, given it's not part of the grade.

     





    That's even more ridiculous, of course it's important to have the proper matching items inside the box. I would have lost faith in them had they missed that. Rightfully it should also include the proper bag and version of styrofoam block it came with.
  • Originally posted by: bootload

     
    Originally posted by: ExplodedHamster

     
    Originally posted by: bootload

     
    Originally posted by: ExplodedHamster



    Just fyi, if you are submitting a CIB and the black cart sleeve inside is not an official Nintendo sleeve, you're getting an "IMP" marking, which means no comic crossover will want it, and you're paying like $85 to send it back in and fix it.



    Would have been nice to know this beforehand, but whatever.





    Why would anyone want to mismatch game sleeves from third party companies just to avoid a IMP marking? It seems counterintuitive to take the proper black sleeve out and swap in a Nintendo sleeve that never originally came with the game.



    Well, it would have to be a first party game with a black or a third party with a Nintendo. These get switched often over the years by sellers, re-sellers etc. I honestly wouldn't have thought it mattered either way, given it's not part of the grade.

     





    That's even more ridiculous, of course it's important to have the proper matching items inside the box. I would have lost faith in them had they missed that. Rightfully it should also include the proper bag and version of styrofoam block it came with.



    The “proper bag” on all CIB? 



    Lol ok dude, you go ahead and write that article on plastic bag variants so that WATA can make sure every CIB not only contains one, but has the 100% original authentic one it came with.



    What about the smell? Should it have that ORIGINAL Nintendo smell? What do you think the smell scale should be? Actual numbers or maybe like pictures of faces with various expressions. Like one dude smiling with roses and another puckering his face to a fart?
  • Originally posted by: ExplodedHamster

     
    Originally posted by: bootload

     
    Originally posted by: ExplodedHamster

     
    Originally posted by: bootload

     
    Originally posted by: ExplodedHamster



    Just fyi, if you are submitting a CIB and the black cart sleeve inside is not an official Nintendo sleeve, you're getting an "IMP" marking, which means no comic crossover will want it, and you're paying like $85 to send it back in and fix it.



    Would have been nice to know this beforehand, but whatever.





    Why would anyone want to mismatch game sleeves from third party companies just to avoid a IMP marking? It seems counterintuitive to take the proper black sleeve out and swap in a Nintendo sleeve that never originally came with the game.



    Well, it would have to be a first party game with a black or a third party with a Nintendo. These get switched often over the years by sellers, re-sellers etc. I honestly wouldn't have thought it mattered either way, given it's not part of the grade.

     





    That's even more ridiculous, of course it's important to have the proper matching items inside the box. I would have lost faith in them had they missed that. Rightfully it should also include the proper bag and version of styrofoam block it came with.



    The “proper bag” on all CIB? 



    Lol ok dude, you go ahead and write that article on plastic bag variants so that WATA can make sure every CIB not only contains one, but has the 100% original authentic one it came with.



    What about the smell? Should it have that ORIGINAL Nintendo smell? What do you think the smell scale should be? Actual numbers or maybe like pictures of faces with various expressions. Like one dude smiling with roses and another puckering his face to a fart?





    Looks like the general consensus here is that complete games require the bag: http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=35697



    A thread outlining the exact bag, styrofoam type and sleeve texture required for each year of NES game: http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=152418
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