Does being part of a special collection add any value?

Does being part of a special collection add any value?



I just got to wondering if two games that are otherwise identical in condition and quality can have different values simply by the merit of one of them having been part of a special collection. For example, Dain’s collection was recently sold and is being advertised as the “Carolina Collection.”



So here’s the question, you take a CIB game from the Carolina collection and the same CIB from eBay. The Carolina collection version has no markings to indicate it is from the Carolina collection.. if both CIB’s are in exactly the same condition, is there any premium in the Carolina collection CIB?



Here’s where I’m going with this… let’s say that someone discovered like 60 cases of sealed Stadium Events. At that point, if they went up on eBay, Stadium Events would no longer be rare. Would their still be any special value associated with the copies of Stadium Events that were discovered ‘in the wild’ prior to a massive discovery like that?? Since the list of known copies is fairly documented, it would be relatively easy to distinguish the pre-find copies from the post-find copies
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  • Not to me.
  • If I got FDS game from The Miyamoto Collection sure. Otherwise, no.
  • The way I've seen it explained is that in other sectors of collecting (art, coins, comics, etc.) a pedigree is another criteria by which items are evaluated.



    To an extent, this happens when, say, a NWC cart changes hands. Several members in the community like to keep tabs on where the known copies are. And when a certain one becomes available, they'll refer to the cart as "so and so's NCW".



    Outside of that example, it really doesn't hold much weight in video game collecting.
  • The knee-jerk reaction is no. But the truth is yes.



    I would trade all known NWC Golds for ONE NWC Grey, but only if it's #0126 which is Howard Phillips copy.



    Also, we're not exactly the deciders in this topic. It's the bag holders who decide.
  • Captains mouse is worth more than any other mouse in existence. Does that count ?
  • I collect games, not other people's collections   I suppose I would prefer a noteworthy collection piece at an equivalent price, but would not pay extra for it. Kind of like the Uncirculated designation on sealed games... doesn't add a lot of value, but some people prefer it.
  • I would certainly say it adds value. Would I pay $10 more for a pedigree copy of the same game and grade. Yes I would. I love provenance with my collection items.
  • I think there are 2 angles:

    1. If the game comes from a popular seller/collector, then they're likely to attract more potential buyers and thus raising the chance of a higher value sale.



    2. From a collector's perspective, it might add some boasting points, but when it comes to resale of such an item in video games, it would be hard to prove which game comes from which original sellers (assuming same condition equivalent).
  • People might pay more, but it doesnt add any value.
  • I say No way. I am collecting the item, not the item that someone who people know collected before me.
  • Not to me.



    I like to think of games as mine, and not part of someones old collection. If I got a Wata game with a pedigree I would actually want them to remove this from the label.
  • I think a particular item can, like it was the particular item used during some monumental occasion.



    Being more desirable because it was once with a bunch of other stuff? I don't see the appeal.
  • There's confusion by some between pedigree and provenance. They are different concepts. Every item has a provenance (an ownership history). Only certain items have pedigree (a special ownership or other history).



    Provenance in the broad sense is more about proving authenticity than adding value .



    Pedigree is an attempt to set something apart as being part of a special grouping, but the truth is that in most cases even pedigrees aren't worth more than non pedigree. They are mostly a holdover from pre certification times, when buying a copy from a certain pedigree gave you an indication of what the true grade was likely to be.



    Only the most special pedigrees seem to get any real premium from non-pedigree (ie the rarest cases). For the most part, nobody gives a shit, similar to the responses on this thread. However it is still good for marketing and allows for people to track items that came from a single source.
  • I'd like to hear the opinions of people that own stadium events
  • This question is fairly absurd to me. Once an item leaves that collection, then it's no longer part of that collection. Additionally, if that person is selling off their collection, the exact reason that made them "famous" is now gone. Unlike being a movie star, a former collector isn't a collector or a collection at all. In a few years, they'll be forgotten, as they are completely irrelevant to the hobby once their collection is gone. To me, the most arrogant thing a collector can say is his games are worth more because they came from his collection. It's disgusting, honestly.



    A salient point being raised was the connection to a famous person in the hobby who is not directly associated with collecting (Miyamoto, Howard Philips, and the like...). That isn't the same as being part of a collector's collection.
  • Originally posted by: phart010



    I'd like to hear the opinions of people that own stadium events



    Why does that make a difference? 

     
  • Originally posted by: MrWunderful

     
    Originally posted by: phart010



    I'd like to hear the opinions of people that own stadium events



    Why does that make a difference? 

     



    I don’t know, that’s what I’m trying to find out

     
  • How much you give me for this rare piece??



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  • The majority are saying it does not add any value and a few are saying it does, the thing is it doesn't matter if the majority say it isn't more valuable, if there's a single person that thinks it adds value and is willing to purchase at a higher price then it's worth more.
  • Originally posted by: DefaultGen



    If I got FDS game from The Miyamoto Collection sure. Otherwise, no.



    This - would have to be from a collection of someone who I admire. 

     
  • IMO no. In fact I'm slightly irritated that some are trying to make this a "thing" in our hobby.
  • I think if the collection adds a narrative or increases certainty of authenticity the answer is yes.



    For instance if someone really enjoyed the Atwood story maybe they would prefer a game from him or if you really like a personality like AVGN or Pat the Punk they may pay more. I also think of buying a donkey Kong from Steve Wiebe or Billy Mitchell could see a premium.



    If an item like a NWC cart came from an original contestant where you get a back story and a proven copy people might pay more than a middle man or reseller. Same for a prototype. If you buy it from the programmer you know it's real ya paying more makes sense.
  • Originally posted by: phart010

     
    Originally posted by: MrWunderful

     
    Originally posted by: phart010



    I'd like to hear the opinions of people that own stadium events



    Why does that make a difference? 

     



    I don’t know, that’s what I’m trying to find out

     

    Protip: owning a rare game doesnt make ones opinion more valid. 
  • i think you have to be some kind of celebrity for it to matter
  • Yeah, no. Like said before, when an item leaves the collection, it's no longer part of the collection. I'd even go as far as saying giving your collection a name is pretentious. It even bugs me to an extent because I don't get it. Anyway, this is where I make my announcement that my collection is the south-eastern-michigan-near-detroit collection  .
  • This is games collecting not comics. Take that pedigree nonsense elsewhere.
  • Originally posted by: RalliArtEvo



    IMO no. In fact I'm slightly irritated that some are trying to make this a "thing" in our hobby.





    Agreed.
  • Originally posted by: MrWunderful



    People might pay more, but it doesnt add any value.

    I think this sums it up nicely



     
  • I'm with the majority here. I could care less where a game came from or who owned it previously. As long as it is authentic and in the condition I am seeking then that's all that matters to me.
  • Originally posted by: MrWunderful



    People might pay more, but it doesnt add any value.



    Isn't that how we determine value? How much people pay for something?

     
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