I didn't mind crystal skull either. That one guy put it best, it echoes the 1950s atomic alien ufo film era. What's wrong with that? It's not too far off from the 1930s nazis and world war theme.
I didn't mind crystal skull either. That one guy put it best, it echoes the 1950s atomic alien ufo film era. What's wrong with that? It's not too far off from the 1930s nazis and world war theme.
I don't mind that part of Crystal Skull. Given Ford can't pass for 30s Indy it makes sense to go with geezer Indy and bring in the big bad Soviets.
I didn't mind crystal skull either. That one guy put it best, it echoes the 1950s atomic alien ufo film era. What's wrong with that? It's not too far off from the 1930s nazis and world war theme.
I don't mind that part of Crystal Skull. Given Ford can't pass for 30s Indy it makes sense to go with geezer Indy and bring in the big bad Soviets.
I just think the execution sucked horse nuts.
Yeah. The basic premise was good. Perfectly fit the time period it was supposed to. The execution was what killed it, and way too much CGI ridiculousness for a series based on practical effects.
Bump for more data......I watched Last Crusade last weekend. It was freshly opened sealed VHS from a trilogy set. Slit that paramount seal like a champion.
"best" in the most objective sense possible, I'd have to go with Raiders, since it is the most out-and-out "adventure" movie without the baggage carried by any of the other 3.
Temple of Doom has the most annoying female interest/sidekick of any movie in history.
Last Crusade, as good as it is, is a father/son "buddy flick" that just doesn't take itself as seriously as Raiders of the Lost Ark.
And Crystal Skull suffers from the move away from practical effects, among other issues that rank it about on par with Temple of Doom.
edit: looks like I pretty much said this before gotta love necrobumps on opinion threads!
I recently watched the first 3 back to back to back and would agree Raiders was most enjoyable to me. Temple of Doom was great, but I was not a big fan of Last Crusade. Did not see the skull one yet but sounds like I'm not missing much
Raiders has the best storytelling and tone. I think Last Crusade was a good effort to recapture the original but build out on Indy's background more but isn't as tight as the original. Doom is good but relies too much on sidekick comic relief from both the love interest and Short Round that is too annoying. Crystal Skull made too many weird character choices, LaBoeuf is horrible and annoying, the double/triple agent betraying friend is confusing and poorly written, and the whole thing is leaning too hard into tongue in cheek camp that it feels like self-parody.
I used to love these movies, I watched them so many times as a kid. I sat down a couple weeks back and watched two of them with my gf who had never seen them, and I don't think they hold up. The silly fight scenes, the dialogue is bad, and the goofy plot are the worst things, the special effects that don't hold up are an after thought because they were respectable for the time. We really had to try to finish the first movie and we shut the second one off early.
Raiders and Last Crusade are so good, can be a toss up depending on mood. Temple is 3rd. Crystal Skulls? Never heard of it, Indiana Jones is a trilogy.
My gf is from a dif. country so she had never seen the movie before, she ragged on me the entire time and I couldn't defend myself because I saw the same things she did. She said it reminded her of the movies she watched as a kid in the 80's coming out of China. This was the first time I had watched them in years. Really after watching this I want to go back and watch other Steven Speilberg movies to see if its weaknesses were just because he was a youmg director or if they flowed over to his other movies.
My gf is from a dif. country so she had never seen the movie before, she ragged on me the entire time and I couldn't defend myself because I saw the same things she did. She said it reminded her of the movies she watched as a kid in the 80's coming out of China. This was the first time I had watched them in years. Really after watching this I want to go back and watch other Steven Speilberg movies to see if its weaknesses were just because he was a youmg director or if they flowed over to his other movies.
What else has your girlfriend told you to stop enjoying?
She said it reminded her of the movies she watched as a kid in the 80's coming out of China.
Legend of Wisely came out years later and was obviously heavily inspired by Indy...if that's the sort of thing we're talking about. Indy itself was a deliberate throwback to 1930's serial films. So it was supposed to feel like a film from that era rather than merely be set during it.
Spielberg is definitely flawed, though. Even stuff like Saving Private Ryan (which set the bar at the time) comes off as too campy these days, but Spielberg himself had a hand in exposing that by blowing it out of the water with Band of Brothers and The Pacific. Those two will hold up far better.
I thought Crystal Skull was entertaining and humorous (perhaps many times not intended by them haha). So yea, it was in no way a classic like the originals, but I enjoyed the movie at the time and had fun with it. I love Cate Blanchett and I thought the evil Irina was so ridiculous but amazing haha.
I guess I just went into it with a different perspective and not comparing to the classics. I don't regret watching it at all.
I thought Crystal Skull was entertaining and humorous (perhaps many times not intended by them haha). So yea, it was in no way a classic like the originals, but I enjoyed the movie at the time and had fun with it. I love Cate Blanchett and I thought the evil Irina was so ridiculous but amazing haha.
I guess I just went into it with a different perspective and not comparing to the classics. I don't regret watching it at all.
I enjoyed it alot. The subject matter though was right up my alley.
Well said both of you about Crystal Skull. I know I put my 2 cents in a year and a half ago, but the game gets truly unjustly ripped on by Indy fanboys all bottled up with their long decades standing love of the originals to see it mostly sits right at home with them with the same quality writing, cheese factor, macguffin on imagination and special item, and the rest. The one glaring dig it well deserves was going into using CGI, at least with the monkey tarzan bit to an annoying gratuitous way there, but that's about it. The movie really sits in parity as far as equality for quality goes as say with the strange factor of ToD right down to the unbelievable crap such as fingers dug through a chest cleanly for a heart that combusts without burning Mola Rom to surviving a nuke blast in a lead lined well tossed fridge as the bs was pretty equal in both. Each of those movies, all their sets, the puns, the style start to end were directly and explicitly tied to the decade they are made to exist within which was the 1930s roll up of nazis taking us into another world war, and all the film styles, cool things, and the rest from that decade. #4 there does the same, but as it's shot for the 1950s you get your black and white movie SCIFI shlock factor, fear of commies and dying in nuclear fire, greasers vs jocks, and the rest of the obvious nods. The odd movies were a hair more grounded outside of the stunning unbelievable junk while the even movies went into the real realm of fantasy a step too far, and perhaps why #2 has been harped on as the weak poor one up until #4 made it into theaters that's now conveniently ignored to dogpile on #4.
I pick Crystal Skull because it's not much more ridiculous than the 80s trilogy, has a good plot, good characters, I still enjoy the concept of an older Indy fighting against the '50s soviets and the whole aliens thing was done in Indy's Desktop Adventures PC game from the 90s, so there.
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I didn't mind crystal skull either. That one guy put it best, it echoes the 1950s atomic alien ufo film era. What's wrong with that? It's not too far off from the 1930s nazis and world war theme.
I don't mind that part of Crystal Skull. Given Ford can't pass for 30s Indy it makes sense to go with geezer Indy and bring in the big bad Soviets.
I just think the execution sucked horse nuts.
I didn't mind crystal skull either. That one guy put it best, it echoes the 1950s atomic alien ufo film era. What's wrong with that? It's not too far off from the 1930s nazis and world war theme.
I don't mind that part of Crystal Skull. Given Ford can't pass for 30s Indy it makes sense to go with geezer Indy and bring in the big bad Soviets.
I just think the execution sucked horse nuts.
Yeah. The basic premise was good. Perfectly fit the time period it was supposed to. The execution was what killed it, and way too much CGI ridiculousness for a series based on practical effects.
Temple of Doom has the most annoying female interest/sidekick of any movie in history.
Last Crusade, as good as it is, is a father/son "buddy flick" that just doesn't take itself as seriously as Raiders of the Lost Ark.
And Crystal Skull suffers from the move away from practical effects, among other issues that rank it about on par with Temple of Doom.
edit: looks like I pretty much said this before gotta love necrobumps on opinion threads!
I used to love these movies...
Is saying crystal skull the equivalent of saying episode 1 or 2 is the best star wars movie?
My opinion - even worse...
I used to love these movies...
My gf is from a dif. country so she had never seen the movie before, she ragged on me the entire time and I couldn't defend myself because I saw the same things she did. She said it reminded her of the movies she watched as a kid in the 80's coming out of China. This was the first time I had watched them in years. Really after watching this I want to go back and watch other Steven Speilberg movies to see if its weaknesses were just because he was a youmg director or if they flowed over to his other movies.
I used to love these movies...
My gf is from a dif. country so she had never seen the movie before, she ragged on me the entire time and I couldn't defend myself because I saw the same things she did. She said it reminded her of the movies she watched as a kid in the 80's coming out of China. This was the first time I had watched them in years. Really after watching this I want to go back and watch other Steven Speilberg movies to see if its weaknesses were just because he was a youmg director or if they flowed over to his other movies.
She said it reminded her of the movies she watched as a kid in the 80's coming out of China.
Legend of Wisely came out years later and was obviously heavily inspired by Indy...if that's the sort of thing we're talking about. Indy itself was a deliberate throwback to 1930's serial films. So it was supposed to feel like a film from that era rather than merely be set during it.
Spielberg is definitely flawed, though. Even stuff like Saving Private Ryan (which set the bar at the time) comes off as too campy these days, but Spielberg himself had a hand in exposing that by blowing it out of the water with Band of Brothers and The Pacific. Those two will hold up far better.
I guess I just went into it with a different perspective and not comparing to the classics. I don't regret watching it at all.
I thought Crystal Skull was entertaining and humorous (perhaps many times not intended by them haha). So yea, it was in no way a classic like the originals, but I enjoyed the movie at the time and had fun with it. I love Cate Blanchett and I thought the evil Irina was so ridiculous but amazing haha.
I guess I just went into it with a different perspective and not comparing to the classics. I don't regret watching it at all.
I enjoyed it alot. The subject matter though was right up my alley.