This article is well written, but extremely inaccurate. Some more research would have made it a fantastic read.
- All boards that plug into an arcade machine are PCBs, not just anything that is pre-JAMMA. CPS1-3, MVS, JAMMA, etc are all PCBs as well. It doesn't make sense to say JAMMA is not a pcb. In most cases, straight JAMMA board are refereed to exclusively as PCBs.
- CPS1 has not two boards, but three boards. And A, B, and C board in most cases. They too can suicide just like CPS2 boards. Also, a CPS2 A board does not act as a JAMMA harness, it plugs into a JAMMA harness. It acts more like a console system. Plug the game into it, and then plug it into the monitor.
- CPS1+2 games *can plug straight into a JAMMA harness, but you'd only be able to play games that require three or less buttons lol. For games like Street Fighter you'd need something called a "Kick harness" that allows an extra three buttons (in the case of a Capcom kick harness that is).
- Neo Geo is not straight JAMMA! You cannot plug most Neo motherboards into a JAMMA harness, you need an adapter. It could seriously damage your board without one. Neo is JAMMA+, wired for four buttons instead of the standard three.
- There is no such thing as a THREE SLOT mother board!!! There are 1, 2, 4, and 6 slot mother boards. The only board that tends to be temperamental is a six slot board.
It was a good read, but with so many glaring inaccuracies it really took away from the article. Someone that's just getting into the hobby could read this and make the mistake of plugging a MVS mobo into a generic JAMMA cabinet, and it would be a pricey mistake.
*Edit: - OMG, the picture at the end of his article is his own set-up and even THAT'S mislabeled. That's a Naomi set-up. Naomi isn't JAMMA, it's JVS. HAHAHAHA! I can see the IO plugged into the harness clearly in the picture. Dude, this is ridiculous.
- CPS1+2 games *can plug straight into a JAMMA harness, but you'd only be able to play games that require three or less buttons lol. For games like Street Fighter you'd need something called a "Kick harness" that allows an extra three buttons (in the case of a Capcom kick harness that is).
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While they can plug straight in, wouldn't the encryption key be missing without the secondary board? My understanding was that the CPS boards required all of their components to be able to actually run the game.
- CPS1+2 games *can plug straight into a JAMMA harness, but you'd only be able to play games that require three or less buttons lol. For games like Street Fighter you'd need something called a "Kick harness" that allows an extra three buttons (in the case of a Capcom kick harness that is).
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While they can plug straight in, wouldn't the encryption key be missing without the secondary board? My understanding was that the CPS boards required all of their components to be able to actually run the game.
I was implying that you can plug the entire CPS system in. In the case of a CPS2 set-up, but the A+B board need to be present. The A board has the finger board that attaches to the JAMMA harness, so you would need it to play regardless. The kick harness also plugs into the A board.
I have a set up less than two feet away from where I'm typing, so I might snap off a picture to show what I mean...
- CPS1+2 games *can plug straight into a JAMMA harness, but you'd only be able to play games that require three or less buttons lol. For games like Street Fighter you'd need something called a "Kick harness" that allows an extra three buttons (in the case of a Capcom kick harness that is).
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While they can plug straight in, wouldn't the encryption key be missing without the secondary board? My understanding was that the CPS boards required all of their components to be able to actually run the game.
I was implying that you can plug the entire CPS system in. In the case of a CPS2 set-up, but the A+B board need to be present. The A board has the finger board that attaches to the JAMMA harness, so you would need it to play regardless. The kick harness also plugs into the A board.
I have a set up less than two feet away from where I'm typing, so I might snap off a picture to show what I mean...
Oh, I thought the A-board contained the kick harness as well
What you're looking at here is the inside of my Egret 2. The board(s) you see is a CPS2 A+B combo. The game is SF Alpha 2. The blue board that you see is the CPS2 B board (the color is determined by the region it was used in). That houses the actual game. The black board that it plugs into is the CPS2 A board, acting as the "Console" I mentioned earlier.
The black harness that attaches to the A board is the standard JAMMA harness. It gives me three buttons per player, and also controls both my joysticks. The smaller white harness at the bottom of the board is my kick harness. This allows an additional three buttons per player. Without it. . .Well. . . I hope you like using punches exclusively lol.
Along with a Capcom kick harness, many other manufactures made kick harnesses of their own. One that comes to mind it Namco. They have a kick harness for games like Tekken and such.
Many will remember CustomNESGuy's post regarding the SF2 machine he was considering. I mentioned that it was fantastic because it already had a QSound amp. Well, those RCA pots would plug directly into that sound amp giving your cab INCREDIBLE stereo sound. I had stereo on my old Egret, and it's a completely different gaming experience.
*Edit: Also, those black circles on the board serve a purpose as well. Pop those caps off and hook up a link cable and BOOM: Four player action is at your fingertips! This is made for games like D&D. You can play it on a single cab with four people, or link it to two cabs with two players apiece.
*Edit: Also, those black circles on the board serve a purpose as well. Pop those caps off and hook up a link cable and BOOM: Four player action is at your fingertips! This is made for games like D&D. You can play it on a single cab with four people, or link it to two cabs with two players apiece.
Holy crap, that's awesome! So if you do a dual-cab linkup, does it require a CPS2 board set for each cabinet, or does a single board set drive the entire rig?
Cheaper than a second Dungeons and Dragons board...
Word up to that shit!
Not only that, but this is how Vs fighting games are really meant to be played. Ignore the 4 player aspect for a moment. What this harness allows you to also do is play heads up SF (or any other Capcom fighter) on two separate cabs! With a 1P CP, it is the most ideal gaming experience. All new arcade fighters (See Taito Viewlix) have one player control panels and are wired up using similar harnesses.
The link mentions that "some modification" is required, but an ape can do that sort of work.
On the topic of Dungeons and Dragons boards...have either of you guys seen them go for much less than $250? They're both AWESOME games...but that seems like a steep buy-in.
On the topic of Dungeons and Dragons boards...have either of you guys seen them go for much less than $250? They're both AWESOME games...but that seems like a steep buy-in.
This is what I would suggest: - The article mentions that CPS boards can suicide. It also mentions that the boards can be revived but it's a "Long and difficult process." The process from start to finish takes me a about 5 minutes (and I'm not exaggerating) lol. You can buy a "dead" board for $50 or so, and I will revive that bitch for you for free. That's a promise. - Your other option is going the Asian route. As I mentioned, CPS2 boards are colored by their region. The Asian boards are grey in color, and they're insanely cheap compared to all other regions. There's a reason for this of course. B boards of all regions can be plugged into A boards of all regions... With the exception of Asian boards. Asain A boards can only accept Asian B boards and vice versa. This limits which B boards you can actively pursue (only grey). Their pinout is longer than that of other regions, so they simply won't fit.
I bought a phoenixed Asian A+B combo D&D Shadows Over Mystara for under $200. They're out there if you know where to look.
I tried emulating D&D in Mame like fifteen years ago and couldn't get it to work. I consoled myself with The Simpsons and TMNT, but always wondered if emulation improved so that it's possible to play on a PC?
I tried emulating D&D in Mame like fifteen years ago and couldn't get it to work. I consoled myself with The Simpsons and TMNT, but always wondered if emulation improved so that it's possible to play on a PC?
Fifteen years ago the encryption on the CPS boards hadn't been broken, from what I understand. The game didn't work because of the ROM's copy protection.
You can get cracked ROMs now that will work just fine. (and would have worked on older PC hardware, just fine, as well)
Well, despite the disputed inaccuracies of the article, I did like it. It makes me seriously consider getting an arcade machine. I also loled when you talked about upsetting "the woman"
The article has an INCREDIBLE amount of incorrect information. Besides the inaccuracies that Beagle pointed out:
The picture on Figure 2 is Namco's System 246 Hardware, not "Dreamcast" hardware. The I/O board in that picture is what is converting it to JAMMA. Namco has a System 246 and System 256 board which run quite a bit of games on CD and a dongle and DVD are required. These are not even CDs, they are all DVD.
AS far as moving games go and paying a shipping company, NAVL is NOT the cheapest as stated in the article. NAVL is the most expensive but requires door to door shipping mostly through a company called STI for transport. Forward Air is much cheaper, but you have to pick the game up through your airport terminal location. UPS and Fedex both have freight for shipping as well.
I don't know why the 33 inch showcase if even recommended. The thing is huge and won't fit through people's doors and a lot of people have little room for space. A candy cabinet or explaining the difference between basic 19 inch and 25 inch monitor style cabinets would have better sufficed for the beginner.
The best places to find arcade machines would be Craig's List and to look up areas where you can find local amusment auctions which are normally held every couple of month within 4-5 hours of most people. Right now the article is completely confusing to anyone.
I own an arcade and am a collector as well. I've moved more machines than I care to remember and there is a basic premise of information about tools/hand dolly, etc that are needed in the article, everything else is very very inaccurate.
^^^ For people with limited space, I can't say enough good things about starting with a classic Nintendo cabinet. You should be able to easily refit the control panel with a normal JAMMA setup, and gut the cabinet, but by arcade machine standards these things are itty-bitty, and have built-in dolly wheels and handles for rolling them around.
This article is well written, but extremely inaccurate. Some more research would have made it a fantastic read.
- All boards that plug into an arcade machine are PCBs, not just anything that is pre-JAMMA. CPS1-3, MVS, JAMMA, etc are all PCBs as well. It doesn't make sense to say JAMMA is not a pcb. In most cases, straight JAMMA board are refereed to exclusively as PCBs.
- CPS1 has not two boards, but three boards. And A, B, and C board in most cases. They too can suicide just like CPS2 boards. Also, a CPS2 A board does not act as a JAMMA harness, it plugs into a JAMMA harness. It acts more like a console system. Plug the game into it, and then plug it into the monitor.
- CPS1+2 games *can plug straight into a JAMMA harness, but you'd only be able to play games that require three or less buttons lol. For games like Street Fighter you'd need something called a "Kick harness" that allows an extra three buttons (in the case of a Capcom kick harness that is).
- Neo Geo is not straight JAMMA! You cannot plug most Neo motherboards into a JAMMA harness, you need an adapter. It could seriously damage your board without one. Neo is JAMMA+, wired for four buttons instead of the standard three.
- There is no such thing as a THREE SLOT mother board!!! There are 1, 2, 4, and 6 slot mother boards. The only board that tends to be temperamental is a six slot board.
It was a good read, but with so many glaring inaccuracies it really took away from the article. Someone that's just getting into the hobby could read this and make the mistake of plugging a MVS mobo into a generic JAMMA cabinet, and it would be a pricey mistake.
*Edit: - OMG, the picture at the end of his article is his own set-up and even THAT'S mislabeled. That's a Naomi set-up. Naomi isn't JAMMA, it's JVS. HAHAHAHA! I can see the IO plugged into the harness clearly in the picture. Dude, this is ridiculous.
BP, Let me just address that overall, I wrote this article while attempting to meet a deadline to submit for the next issue. I've already corresponded with an editor about some of its issues before it was published as well as a follow up to clarify and further expound upon some things that were glossed over or were discussed in general detail. But, I believe being my first article it was a good start. I didn't see the need to go into some of the less common system setups or discuss other variations in a general overview of the material. After it left my hands it was also edited again, which due to length and limited coverage of the entire spectrum may have left room for some confusion. The one true error I had was listing 3 slot instead of 4, it's a typographical error on my part so thanks for bringing this to my attention. Yes, the kick harness is necessary for some games, the cps1 board stacks are irrelevant in an overview, and cps2 A board, yup you do need one, suicide fixes are difficult unless you know what you are already doing ahead of time, yes, all boards are PCBs (printed circuit boards) and this was a differentiation from those that are referred to as PCBs (require their own setup) and those that use a universal harness, Jamma. Again, as a general overview it was a place to start and after being edited perhaps some of the implication was lost in translation, so again thanks for bringing this to my attention in such a tactful manner. As for the naomi hardware, it's less common and not really necessary to expound upon in detail in a general overview. Naomi hardware is basically console hardware, like dreamcast or playstaion 2 and naomi 2 is a slight upgrade to this and there is a Jamma harness in the cabinet directly to the left of the soundboard. However, this is not naomi, it's system 246. The caption was edited before published, but the implication was not to the hardware, but to the space available in the cabinet. The picture itself was initially much earlier in the article as a reference point to the showcase's available space. Regardless, I don't fully understand what you were trying to point out by this junction, as it was obviously in another castle, but whatever it was you certainly didn't need to be an ass about it.
- Euripides -
*Edit - Also, the editors did a wonderful job cleaning this article up. As mentioned before, it was rushed and had some major issues! These gents really came through and mopped it up. If there was any room for error, it's because of time constraints and my own doing. Just an FYI. They're a fantastic crew and an asset to the community! Cheers!
Dream mentioned that it was a System 246 set-up in his post. I didn't go back to correct my post as I didn't find it necessary (maybe I would have if I were to say write an article ). Everything else I mentioned in my first post is true, and it certainly didn't take long to write.
Sure my tact could have been better I suppose, but there are some glaringly inaccurate facts throughout. The article was well written without a doubt. Far better than anything I could create, that's for damn sure. I think if you wrote about something that you were a little more familiar with it would be a fantastic read.
You're obviously well written, so I'm looking forward to what your next article might entail.
Dream mentioned that it was a System 246 set-up in his post. I didn't go back to correct my post as I didn't find it necessary (maybe I would have if I were to say write an article ). Everything else I mentioned in my first post is true, and it certainly didn't take long to write.
Sure my tact could have been better I suppose, but there are some glaringly inaccurate facts throughout. The article was well written without a doubt. Far better than anything I could create, that's for damn sure. I think if you wrote about something that you were a little more familiar with it would be a fantastic read.
You're obviously well written, so I'm looking forward to what your next article might entail.
I very much appreciate your comments, I did find that post you mentioned after I had responded. I believe writing this first article has taught me much in the realm of writing, and I also think that next time regardless of time I will pass to the next issue rather than submit something I know isn't ready. Perhaps then I would not have made so many mistakes and it would have been more concise as well as comprehensive. Thank you for all the other things that you gentleman have taken the time to make light of, it's very important that any information published or posted be as accurate as possible. I look forward to the possibility of creating another article in the future, and hope that it entertains as well as informs XD Cheers gents!
Just want to add a +1 in regards to your abilities as a writer. Regardless of the accuracy, I think you have a really engaging writing style and I definitely am looking forward to your next article!
Just want to add a +1 in regards to your abilities as a writer. Regardless of the accuracy, I think you have a really engaging writing style and I definitely am looking forward to your next article!
My humble thanks friend, I truly appreciate your comments. My hopes is anything that I submit might be good enough to print. Cheers to all!
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Or is it a Corinthian column?
Could have been Doric order...
- All boards that plug into an arcade machine are PCBs, not just anything that is pre-JAMMA. CPS1-3, MVS, JAMMA, etc are all PCBs as well. It doesn't make sense to say JAMMA is not a pcb. In most cases, straight JAMMA board are refereed to exclusively as PCBs.
- CPS1 has not two boards, but three boards. And A, B, and C board in most cases. They too can suicide just like CPS2 boards. Also, a CPS2 A board does not act as a JAMMA harness, it plugs into a JAMMA harness. It acts more like a console system. Plug the game into it, and then plug it into the monitor.
- CPS1+2 games *can plug straight into a JAMMA harness, but you'd only be able to play games that require three or less buttons lol. For games like Street Fighter you'd need something called a "Kick harness" that allows an extra three buttons (in the case of a Capcom kick harness that is).
- Neo Geo is not straight JAMMA! You cannot plug most Neo motherboards into a JAMMA harness, you need an adapter. It could seriously damage your board without one. Neo is JAMMA+, wired for four buttons instead of the standard three.
- There is no such thing as a THREE SLOT mother board!!! There are 1, 2, 4, and 6 slot mother boards. The only board that tends to be temperamental is a six slot board.
It was a good read, but with so many glaring inaccuracies it really took away from the article. Someone that's just getting into the hobby could read this and make the mistake of plugging a MVS mobo into a generic JAMMA cabinet, and it would be a pricey mistake.
*Edit:
- OMG, the picture at the end of his article is his own set-up and even THAT'S mislabeled. That's a Naomi set-up. Naomi isn't JAMMA, it's JVS. HAHAHAHA! I can see the IO plugged into the harness clearly in the picture. Dude, this is ridiculous.
- CPS1+2 games *can plug straight into a JAMMA harness, but you'd only be able to play games that require three or less buttons lol. For games like Street Fighter you'd need something called a "Kick harness" that allows an extra three buttons (in the case of a Capcom kick harness that is).
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While they can plug straight in, wouldn't the encryption key be missing without the secondary board? My understanding was that the CPS boards required all of their components to be able to actually run the game.
- CPS1+2 games *can plug straight into a JAMMA harness, but you'd only be able to play games that require three or less buttons lol. For games like Street Fighter you'd need something called a "Kick harness" that allows an extra three buttons (in the case of a Capcom kick harness that is).
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While they can plug straight in, wouldn't the encryption key be missing without the secondary board? My understanding was that the CPS boards required all of their components to be able to actually run the game.
I was implying that you can plug the entire CPS system in. In the case of a CPS2 set-up, but the A+B board need to be present. The A board has the finger board that attaches to the JAMMA harness, so you would need it to play regardless. The kick harness also plugs into the A board.
I have a set up less than two feet away from where I'm typing, so I might snap off a picture to show what I mean...
- CPS1+2 games *can plug straight into a JAMMA harness, but you'd only be able to play games that require three or less buttons lol. For games like Street Fighter you'd need something called a "Kick harness" that allows an extra three buttons (in the case of a Capcom kick harness that is).
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While they can plug straight in, wouldn't the encryption key be missing without the secondary board? My understanding was that the CPS boards required all of their components to be able to actually run the game.
I was implying that you can plug the entire CPS system in. In the case of a CPS2 set-up, but the A+B board need to be present. The A board has the finger board that attaches to the JAMMA harness, so you would need it to play regardless. The kick harness also plugs into the A board.
I have a set up less than two feet away from where I'm typing, so I might snap off a picture to show what I mean...
Oh, I thought the A-board contained the kick harness as well
What you're looking at here is the inside of my Egret 2. The board(s) you see is a CPS2 A+B combo. The game is SF Alpha 2. The blue board that you see is the CPS2 B board (the color is determined by the region it was used in). That houses the actual game. The black board that it plugs into is the CPS2 A board, acting as the "Console" I mentioned earlier.
The black harness that attaches to the A board is the standard JAMMA harness. It gives me three buttons per player, and also controls both my joysticks. The smaller white harness at the bottom of the board is my kick harness. This allows an additional three buttons per player. Without it. . .Well. . . I hope you like using punches exclusively lol.
Along with a Capcom kick harness, many other manufactures made kick harnesses of their own. One that comes to mind it Namco. They have a kick harness for games like Tekken and such.
Many will remember CustomNESGuy's post regarding the SF2 machine he was considering. I mentioned that it was fantastic because it already had a QSound amp. Well, those RCA pots would plug directly into that sound amp giving your cab INCREDIBLE stereo sound. I had stereo on my old Egret, and it's a completely different gaming experience.
*Edit:
Also, those black circles on the board serve a purpose as well. Pop those caps off and hook up a link cable and BOOM: Four player action is at your fingertips! This is made for games like D&D. You can play it on a single cab with four people, or link it to two cabs with two players apiece.
*Edit:
Also, those black circles on the board serve a purpose as well. Pop those caps off and hook up a link cable and BOOM: Four player action is at your fingertips! This is made for games like D&D. You can play it on a single cab with four people, or link it to two cabs with two players apiece.
Holy crap, that's awesome! So if you do a dual-cab linkup, does it require a CPS2 board set for each cabinet, or does a single board set drive the entire rig?
Single board baby. Sexy, isn't it?
http://www.arcadeshock.com/items/capcom-loose-pcbs/capcom-cps2-link-cable-cps2link-acc-detail.htm
Expensive, but boner inducing none the less.
Single board baby. Sexy, isn't it?
http://www.arcadeshock.com/items/capcom-loose-pcbs/capc...
Expensive, but boner inducing none the less.
Cheaper than a second Dungeons and Dragons board...
Single board baby. Sexy, isn't it?
http://www.arcadeshock.com/items/capcom-loose-pcbs/capcom-cp...
Expensive, but boner inducing none the less.
Cheaper than a second Dungeons and Dragons board...
Word up to that shit!
Not only that, but this is how Vs fighting games are really meant to be played. Ignore the 4 player aspect for a moment. What this harness allows you to also do is play heads up SF (or any other Capcom fighter) on two separate cabs! With a 1P CP, it is the most ideal gaming experience. All new arcade fighters (See Taito Viewlix) have one player control panels and are wired up using similar harnesses.
The link mentions that "some modification" is required, but an ape can do that sort of work.
On the topic of Dungeons and Dragons boards...have either of you guys seen them go for much less than $250? They're both AWESOME games...but that seems like a steep buy-in.
Seems like a VERY cool way to do VS stuff.
On the topic of Dungeons and Dragons boards...have either of you guys seen them go for much less than $250? They're both AWESOME games...but that seems like a steep buy-in.
This is what I would suggest:
- The article mentions that CPS boards can suicide. It also mentions that the boards can be revived but it's a "Long and difficult process." The process from start to finish takes me a about 5 minutes (and I'm not exaggerating) lol. You can buy a "dead" board for $50 or so, and I will revive that bitch for you for free. That's a promise.
- Your other option is going the Asian route. As I mentioned, CPS2 boards are colored by their region. The Asian boards are grey in color, and they're insanely cheap compared to all other regions. There's a reason for this of course. B boards of all regions can be plugged into A boards of all regions... With the exception of Asian boards. Asain A boards can only accept Asian B boards and vice versa. This limits which B boards you can actively pursue (only grey). Their pinout is longer than that of other regions, so they simply won't fit.
I bought a phoenixed Asian A+B combo D&D Shadows Over Mystara for under $200. They're out there if you know where to look.
I'll definitely keep my eyes open, because that is one of my all-time favorites, and probably IS my all-time favorite 4-player game.
Or is it a Corinthian column?
Could have been Doric order...
I'd say Corinthian column is the best pick, since Classical Greek theatres were made in the Corinthian order style.
Or is it a Corinthian column?
Could have been Doric order...
I'd say Corinthian column is the best pick, since Classical Greek theatres were made in the Corinthian order style.
How do you say grossly inaccurate in Greek?
How do you say grossly inaccurate in Greek?
Cheap translation: ?????? ????? ??? ???????
Edit: Lol, nevermind, the forum don't recognize Greek alphabet.
I tried emulating D&D in Mame like fifteen years ago and couldn't get it to work. I consoled myself with The Simpsons and TMNT, but always wondered if emulation improved so that it's possible to play on a PC?
Fifteen years ago the encryption on the CPS boards hadn't been broken, from what I understand. The game didn't work because of the ROM's copy protection.
You can get cracked ROMs now that will work just fine. (and would have worked on older PC hardware, just fine, as well)
The picture on Figure 2 is Namco's System 246 Hardware, not "Dreamcast" hardware. The I/O board in that picture is what is converting it to JAMMA. Namco has a System 246 and System 256 board which run quite a bit of games on CD and a dongle and DVD are required. These are not even CDs, they are all DVD.
AS far as moving games go and paying a shipping company, NAVL is NOT the cheapest as stated in the article. NAVL is the most expensive but requires door to door shipping mostly through a company called STI for transport. Forward Air is much cheaper, but you have to pick the game up through your airport terminal location. UPS and Fedex both have freight for shipping as well.
I don't know why the 33 inch showcase if even recommended. The thing is huge and won't fit through people's doors and a lot of people have little room for space. A candy cabinet or explaining the difference between basic 19 inch and 25 inch monitor style cabinets would have better sufficed for the beginner.
The best places to find arcade machines would be Craig's List and to look up areas where you can find local amusment auctions which are normally held every couple of month within 4-5 hours of most people. Right now the article is completely confusing to anyone.
I own an arcade and am a collector as well. I've moved more machines than I care to remember and there is a basic premise of information about tools/hand dolly, etc that are needed in the article, everything else is very very inaccurate.
This article is well written, but extremely inaccurate. Some more research would have made it a fantastic read.
- All boards that plug into an arcade machine are PCBs, not just anything that is pre-JAMMA. CPS1-3, MVS, JAMMA, etc are all PCBs as well. It doesn't make sense to say JAMMA is not a pcb. In most cases, straight JAMMA board are refereed to exclusively as PCBs.
- CPS1 has not two boards, but three boards. And A, B, and C board in most cases. They too can suicide just like CPS2 boards. Also, a CPS2 A board does not act as a JAMMA harness, it plugs into a JAMMA harness. It acts more like a console system. Plug the game into it, and then plug it into the monitor.
- CPS1+2 games *can plug straight into a JAMMA harness, but you'd only be able to play games that require three or less buttons lol. For games like Street Fighter you'd need something called a "Kick harness" that allows an extra three buttons (in the case of a Capcom kick harness that is).
- Neo Geo is not straight JAMMA! You cannot plug most Neo motherboards into a JAMMA harness, you need an adapter. It could seriously damage your board without one. Neo is JAMMA+, wired for four buttons instead of the standard three.
- There is no such thing as a THREE SLOT mother board!!! There are 1, 2, 4, and 6 slot mother boards. The only board that tends to be temperamental is a six slot board.
It was a good read, but with so many glaring inaccuracies it really took away from the article. Someone that's just getting into the hobby could read this and make the mistake of plugging a MVS mobo into a generic JAMMA cabinet, and it would be a pricey mistake.
*Edit:
- OMG, the picture at the end of his article is his own set-up and even THAT'S mislabeled. That's a Naomi set-up. Naomi isn't JAMMA, it's JVS. HAHAHAHA! I can see the IO plugged into the harness clearly in the picture. Dude, this is ridiculous.
BP,
Let me just address that overall, I wrote this article while attempting to meet a deadline to submit for the next issue. I've already corresponded with an editor about some of its issues before it was published as well as a follow up to clarify and further expound upon some things that were glossed over or were discussed in general detail. But, I believe being my first article it was a good start. I didn't see the need to go into some of the less common system setups or discuss other variations in a general overview of the material. After it left my hands it was also edited again, which due to length and limited coverage of the entire spectrum may have left room for some confusion. The one true error I had was listing 3 slot instead of 4, it's a typographical error on my part so thanks for bringing this to my attention. Yes, the kick harness is necessary for some games, the cps1 board stacks are irrelevant in an overview, and cps2 A board, yup you do need one, suicide fixes are difficult unless you know what you are already doing ahead of time, yes, all boards are PCBs (printed circuit boards) and this was a differentiation from those that are referred to as PCBs (require their own setup) and those that use a universal harness, Jamma. Again, as a general overview it was a place to start and after being edited perhaps some of the implication was lost in translation, so again thanks for bringing this to my attention in such a tactful manner. As for the naomi hardware, it's less common and not really necessary to expound upon in detail in a general overview.
Naomi hardware is basically console hardware, like dreamcast or playstaion 2 and naomi 2 is a slight upgrade to this and there is a Jamma harness in the cabinet directly to the left of the soundboard. However, this is not naomi, it's system 246. The caption was edited before published, but the implication was not to the hardware, but to the space available in the cabinet. The picture itself was initially much earlier in the article as a reference point to the showcase's available space. Regardless, I don't fully understand what you were trying to point out by this junction, as it was obviously in another castle, but whatever it was you certainly didn't need to be an ass about it.
- Euripides -
*Edit - Also, the editors did a wonderful job cleaning this article up. As mentioned before, it was rushed and had some major issues! These gents really came through and mopped it up. If there was any room for error, it's because of time constraints and my own doing. Just an FYI.
Sure my tact could have been better I suppose, but there are some glaringly inaccurate facts throughout. The article was well written without a doubt. Far better than anything I could create, that's for damn sure. I think if you wrote about something that you were a little more familiar with it would be a fantastic read.
You're obviously well written, so I'm looking forward to what your next article might entail.
Dream mentioned that it was a System 246 set-up in his post. I didn't go back to correct my post as I didn't find it necessary (maybe I would have if I were to say write an article
Sure my tact could have been better I suppose, but there are some glaringly inaccurate facts throughout. The article was well written without a doubt. Far better than anything I could create, that's for damn sure. I think if you wrote about something that you were a little more familiar with it would be a fantastic read.
You're obviously well written, so I'm looking forward to what your next article might entail.
I very much appreciate your comments, I did find that post you mentioned after I had responded. I believe writing this first article has taught me much in the realm of writing, and I also think that next time regardless of time I will pass to the next issue rather than submit something I know isn't ready. Perhaps then I would not have made so many mistakes and it would have been more concise as well as comprehensive. Thank you for all the other things that you gentleman have taken the time to make light of, it's very important that any information published or posted be as accurate as possible.
I look forward to the possibility of creating another article in the future, and hope that it entertains as well as informs XD Cheers gents!
- Euripides -
Just want to add a +1 in regards to your abilities as a writer. Regardless of the accuracy, I think you have a really engaging writing style and I definitely am looking forward to your next article!
My humble thanks friend, I truly appreciate your comments. My hopes is anything that I submit might be good enough to print. Cheers to all!
- Euripides -