Huh.... Super still looks too 16 bit-y to me. Like a computer game instead of Nintendo. I like the original a lot, but absolutely loved II.
Well...technically all video game systems are computers. So all Nintendo games look like computer games, because they are.
I understand what he means though.
Super Metroid has such great graphics and animation it sort of popped of the screen a bit like some PC games of the time did. It had arguably the best looking 2D sprites on consoles for the 16-bit generation.
Ninten-does what the Genesis don't!
Also, I'm happy to see that Metroid II got some love.
It had a really unique way of tweaking the Metroid formula.
Well unless you're a NES collector or a purist entirely, since you mention GBA there is a Classic NES Series release of Metroid, you can find it anywhere even Lamestop for $5 so it's not too bad to get, and that one saves w/out passwords (like the game is supposed to do as it does in Japan.)
Metroid Zero Mission also has the original in the Options menu. It looks like a direct port, but I'm no expert.
I'm going to be the oddball and pick Corruption. It was the best of the Prime series by far imho, and while I liked the original Metroid and Super Metroid a lot, I think I liked MP3: Corruption more. The original would be second, Super Metroid 3rd for me. The whole series is solid except Prime 2, which I didn't like at all.
Or, how about a direct Android spoof - "Where other's don't, Nintendoes" with a picture of a green ROB!
Since that's a spoof of Motorola DROID and not Android, it would make more sense to replace their DROID phone and the glowing red HAL9000 eye, with an NES and glowing red Power LED.
Why do we seemingly get a fat dose of Ridley every game, but there is no love for Kraid? I like them both and think they are pivotal characters in the franchise, but the focus is very lopsided on the development end. Kraid was vicious in Super Metroid and an awesome little bastard in the original.
Why do we seemingly get a fat dose of Ridley every game, but there is no love for Kraid? I like them both and think they are pivotal characters in the franchise, but the focus is very lopsided on the development end. Kraid was vicious in Super Metroid and an awesome little bastard in the original.
What is up with that?
Because a flying-dragon-alien is way more iconic than an alien version of Bowser
Actually, while Ridley is cooler in general IMO, the Kraid fight in Super Metroid was more memorable for me. It was just so epic to have a 3 screen tall boss at the time, and that music was PERFECT for the huge battle.
Also, is it just me, or does anybody else find the mini bosses in pretty much every Metroid since SM to be inferior to the ones in SM? It could just be because I put SM on a pedestal, and have played through it a dozen times, but I just think that Crocomire, that Spore thing, and Phantoon(?) were all way more interesting than the bosses in recent Metroids. I just got to the boss in the fire area of Other M, and while it was a fun fight, it seemed like any other Japanese boss fight.
^^^ Agreed. I can't recall a single boss from the Metroid Prime games. Hell, I don't even remember those games as having mini-bosses. Or the GBA games, either
^^^ Agreed. I can't recall a single boss from the Metroid Prime games. Hell, I don't even remember those games as having mini-bosses. Or the GBA games, either
^^^ Agreed. I can't recall a single boss from the Metroid Prime games. Hell, I don't even remember those games as having mini-bosses. Or the GBA games, either
^^^ Agreed. I can't recall a single boss from the Metroid Prime games. Hell, I don't even remember those games as having mini-bosses. Or the GBA games, either
How about Metroid Prime?
Not that memorable.
The joke was that the boss's name is the title of the game, thus the boss should be memorable...
I never made it to any of the Metroids in Prime. Maybe I should have kept plugging at it even though it was boring to me until I got to the Metroids.
I can't fault you for it. The third installment was engaging because of the unique controls, but the first one bored me bad enough that I couldn't ever make myself even try the second.
These are the reasons I like this place. Before this, I was a regular at Joystiq, and I disagreed with about 99% of them. It seemed like the only person that shared my opinions were my brother. But this thread is great.
I agree, the pacing was pretty slow. More than anything, though, I think the gameplay turne me off. I hated the lock on system, and Samus' movement felt like a tank. It took so much o what I loved in Super Metroid, stripped it off, and threw it in the garbage. To me, the Prime series proved that Metroid isn't just about exploration, and Fusion (and now Other M) are proving that it's not just about the classic gameplay. It was a combination of gameplay, exploration, atmosphere any story, and I still think Super Metroid got that combination just right.
I wonder what would happen if I focused more of my energy into something productive or creative.. Lol..
wow, see I liked Prime a lot. Echoes was a little tiresome in spots, and have not played Corruption, but I liked Prime very much (top 3 for me). Then again, I'm not a big FPS junkie so I am easily entertained by such things perhaps. Never had a problem with the pacing and loved the huge "world" and the exploration. I still see the fire areas in my sleep...
That said, we like you Levirules, don't go running off just because I like Prime!
Prime wasn't that good either to me. The play was fine, but it had this most hideous setup of the save points vs backtracking which were just horrendous. Ultimately like you I outright would not and could not buy Prime 2. That was part of the reason, but the other larger one was broke ass controls. You NEVER make a FPS game, and then give no rational way to aim wasting the c-stick on a visor flipper...dumb. Often once space pirates show you end up being shot up standing there, juggling the z-button and the sticks to aim onto them, get the lock, and only then can you pop around and evade like they do (or any FPS game bot/player target can do) and to me that was inexcusable. I put up with it until the Omega Pirate and stopped as it was impossible for me to clock that idiot and the 3-4 pirates bobbing around taking shots because each time I'd try to lock and defend or just evade I'd get whacked because Samus moved around like a wooden tank like some early FPS before people got a clue 1 stick is bad mmmkay. Prime 3 fixed that, but in other ways it just didn't suck me in, got boring, OtherM though is like the 4th sequel after the SNES so it amuses me.
wow, see I liked Prime a lot. Echoes was a little tiresome in spots, and have not played Corruption, but I liked Prime very much (top 3 for me). Then again, I'm not a big FPS junkie so I am easily entertained by such things perhaps. Never had a problem with the pacing and loved the huge "world" and the exploration. I still see the fire areas in my sleep...
The problem with the pacing was more about how battles were an interruption to exploration, rather than a seamless part of the experience (as they are in most first-person action/adventure games).
There was just way too much of "we'll let the player explore into an apparently empty room, then we'll lock the doors and dump bad guys out of the air ducts". It happened all over the place, and was the ultimate annoying Deus Ex Machina.
Corruption was a little bit better about it, but none of them pulled off how seamless the first person experience could be.
^ I'm finding that's the case somewhat often in Other M too, but I kind of expected it from Team Ninja after Ninja Gaiden Sigma.
And Stan, I don't fault anyone for liking Prime. It was just that the game didn't appeal to me as a Metroid game. Prime appeared to have a better exploration aspect to it than Other M, but I just didn't dig the slow gameplay. Some sort of Prime/Other M amalgam would probably be good... Other PriMe maybe?
I've only played the 2D Metroid games, the first 5 on the list, all of them are great, but the first Metroid is easily my favorite. Super Metroid is really good, but I think I enjoy Fusion more, though I wish they would've done Super Metroid on the GBA like they did the Marios and Zeldas. Metroid II is a decent sequel but had always wished this had been made for the NES too. Zero Mission I've only played through once on emulator so will have to play some more to see where that one stands once I'm able to get the game.
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Huh.... Super still looks too 16 bit-y to me. Like a computer game instead of Nintendo. I like the original a lot, but absolutely loved II.
Well...technically all video game systems are computers. So all Nintendo games look like computer games, because they are.
I understand what he means though.
Well unless you're a NES collector or a purist entirely, since you mention GBA there is a Classic NES Series release of Metroid, you can find it anywhere even Lamestop for $5 so it's not too bad to get, and that one saves w/out passwords (like the game is supposed to do as it does in Japan.)
Metroid Zero Mission also has the original in the Options menu. It looks like a direct port, but I'm no expert.
How about "Nintendo is what GenesISN'T"
Nice, I love it.
How about "Nintendo is what GenesISN'T"
That would make a great t-shirt!
How about "Nintendo is what GenesISN'T"
That would make a great t-shirt!
I'd buy one!!
How about "Nintendo is what GenesISN'T"
That would make a great t-shirt!
I'd buy one!!
In a heartbeat.
Does and isn't don't really go together but it's still good I think
Or, how about a direct Android spoof - "Where other's don't, Nintendoes" with a picture of a green ROB!
Or, how about a direct Android spoof - "Where other's don't, Nintendoes" with a picture of a green ROB!
Since that's a spoof of Motorola DROID and not Android, it would make more sense to replace their DROID phone and the glowing red HAL9000 eye, with an NES and glowing red Power LED.
Why do we seemingly get a fat dose of Ridley every game, but there is no love for Kraid? I like them both and think they are pivotal characters in the franchise, but the focus is very lopsided on the development end. Kraid was vicious in Super Metroid and an awesome little bastard in the original.
What is up with that?
General Metroid Rant
Why do we seemingly get a fat dose of Ridley every game, but there is no love for Kraid? I like them both and think they are pivotal characters in the franchise, but the focus is very lopsided on the development end. Kraid was vicious in Super Metroid and an awesome little bastard in the original.
What is up with that?
Because a flying-dragon-alien is way more iconic than an alien version of Bowser
But I agree, Kraid in Super Metroid was AWESOME.
Also, is it just me, or does anybody else find the mini bosses in pretty much every Metroid since SM to be inferior to the ones in SM? It could just be because I put SM on a pedestal, and have played through it a dozen times, but I just think that Crocomire, that Spore thing, and Phantoon(?) were all way more interesting than the bosses in recent Metroids. I just got to the boss in the fire area of Other M, and while it was a fun fight, it seemed like any other Japanese boss fight.
It's probably just me.
But Crocomire was the shit.
^^^ Agreed. I can't recall a single boss from the Metroid Prime games. Hell, I don't even remember those games as having mini-bosses. Or the GBA games, either
How about Metroid Prime?
^^^ Agreed. I can't recall a single boss from the Metroid Prime games. Hell, I don't even remember those games as having mini-bosses. Or the GBA games, either
How about Metroid Prime?
Not that memorable.
^^^ Agreed. I can't recall a single boss from the Metroid Prime games. Hell, I don't even remember those games as having mini-bosses. Or the GBA games, either
How about Metroid Prime?
Not that memorable.
I get the joke, but that's the only boss in the game I could even name, and the fight was not memorable at all.
I never made it to any of the Metroids in Prime. Maybe I should have kept plugging at it even though it was boring to me until I got to the Metroids.
I can't fault you for it. The third installment was engaging because of the unique controls, but the first one bored me bad enough that I couldn't ever make myself even try the second.
The pacing in those games was terrible.
I agree, the pacing was pretty slow. More than anything, though, I think the gameplay turne me off. I hated the lock on system, and Samus' movement felt like a tank. It took so much o what I loved in Super Metroid, stripped it off, and threw it in the garbage. To me, the Prime series proved that Metroid isn't just about exploration, and Fusion (and now Other M) are proving that it's not just about the classic gameplay. It was a combination of gameplay, exploration, atmosphere any story, and I still think Super Metroid got that combination just right.
I wonder what would happen if I focused more of my energy into something productive or creative.. Lol..
That said, we like you Levirules, don't go running off just because I like Prime!
However, I would really like to see another 2D Metroid. It's been too long.
Metroid Dread anyone?
wow, see I liked Prime a lot. Echoes was a little tiresome in spots, and have not played Corruption, but I liked Prime very much (top 3 for me). Then again, I'm not a big FPS junkie so I am easily entertained by such things perhaps. Never had a problem with the pacing and loved the huge "world" and the exploration. I still see the fire areas in my sleep...
The problem with the pacing was more about how battles were an interruption to exploration, rather than a seamless part of the experience (as they are in most first-person action/adventure games).
There was just way too much of "we'll let the player explore into an apparently empty room, then we'll lock the doors and dump bad guys out of the air ducts". It happened all over the place, and was the ultimate annoying Deus Ex Machina.
Corruption was a little bit better about it, but none of them pulled off how seamless the first person experience could be.
And Stan, I don't fault anyone for liking Prime. It was just that the game didn't appeal to me as a Metroid game. Prime appeared to have a better exploration aspect to it than Other M, but I just didn't dig the slow gameplay. Some sort of Prime/Other M amalgam would probably be good... Other PriMe maybe?